Samsung HD103UI Eco Green F1 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 32MB Cache - OEM £54.99 delivered from Ebuyer - HotUKDeals
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Cheapest I've seen this excellent drive...

- Formatted capacity : 1 TB
- Serial ATA 3.0Gbps Interface Support
- Improved recording stability over temperature with PMR
- Advanced dynamic FOD control for best data integrity
- Intelligent compensation of external disturbance
- SATA Native Command Queuing Feature
- Device Initiated SATA Power Management
- Staggerd Spin-up Support
- Environment friendly product with RoHS compliance
- Improved performance with dual-ARM based firmware
- ATA S.M.A.R.T. Compliant
- ATA Automatic Acoustic Management Feature
- ATA 48-bit Address Feature
- ATA Device Configuration Overlay Feature
- NoiseGuard
- SilentSeek
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#1
Remeber this is a 5400rpm drive and is quite slow but if size is more important than performance this is a good buy,
#2
can anyone confirm access /write/read times
#3
Average Seek time(typical) 8.9 ms
Average Latency 5.52 ms
Data Transfer Rate / Media to/from Buffer(Max.) 140 MB/sec
Data Transfer Rate / Buffer to/from Host(Max.) 300 MB/sec
Drive Ready Time(typical) 12 sec

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/productmodel.do?type=61&subtype=78&model_cd=353&ppmi=1170#
#4
tonyg1962
Remeber this is a 5400rpm drive and is quite slow but if size is more important than performance this is a good buy,


This drive is all about low power usage, low heat and quiet operation.

If your not bothered about any of the above buy the standard F1

Also cold for me, ebuyer 1yr OEM samsung warranty :-(
#5
Bought this for a Tivo PVR upgrade - Perfect!
#6
might give this a go insted of the deathstars of to for a look at the 1.5 tb first
#7
Drive Configurations Capacity * 1 TB
Interface Serial ATA 3.0Gbps
Buffer DRAM Size 32 MB
Byte per Sector 512 bytes
Performance Specifications Average Seek time(typical) 8.9 ms
Average Latency 5.52 ms
Data Transfer Rate / Media to/from Buffer(Max.) 140 MB/sec
Data Transfer Rate / Buffer to/from Host(Max.) 300 MB/sec
Drive Ready Time(typical) 12 sec
Reliability Specifications Non-recoverable Read Error 1 sector in 10^15 bits
Start/Stop Cycles 50,000
Acoustics Idle 2.70 Bel
Performance Seek 2.90 Bel
Environmental Specifications Temperature / Operating 0 ~ 60 °C
Temperature / Non-operating -40 ~ 70 °C
Humidity(non-condensing) / Operating 5 ~ 90 %
Humidity(non-condensing) / Non-operating 5 ~ 95 %
Liner Shock(1/2 sine pulse) / Operating 70 G
Liner Shock(1/2 sine pulse) / Non-operating 300 G
Altitude(relative to sea level) / Operating -300 to 3,000 m
Altitude(relative to sea level) / Non-operating -300 to 12,000 m
Power Requirements Voltage +5V±5%, +12V±10%
Spin-up Current (Max.) 2.0 A
Seek (typical) 5.6 W
Read/Write (typical) 6.2 W
Idle (typical) 5.0 W
Standby (typical) 0.5/0.8 W
Sleep (typical) 0.5/0.8 W
Physical Dimension Height (Max.) 26.1 mm
Width 101.5 mm
Length 147.0 mm
Weight (avg.) 640 g
#8
i was looking at these 2days ago but decided to go with

Samsung SpinPoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB Hard Drive SATAII *32MB Cache* - OEM - Qty: 2


Nice HDD's :)
#9
Got two of these drives in my Windows Home Server. They run quiet and cool, which is essential if you leave your system on 24x7, and they take very little power compared to 7200RPM drives.

Yes they are only 5400RPM, but the transfer rate is more than adequate unless you are after ultimate performance.
#10
Mine works fine on Windows 7 (32 bit clean install). Don't seem to have any transfer rate issues, and boots quicker than my Vista install. Great for storage, if you want super-speed, you have to go SD really.
#11
cap3116
Got two of these drives in my Windows Home Server. They run quiet and cool, which is essential if you leave your system on 24x7, and they take very little power compared to 7200RPM drives.

Yes they are only 5400RPM, but the transfer rate is more than adequate unless you are after ultimate performance.
People sometimes read too much into the 5400rpm / 7200rpm speeds.

If you look at this which is also part of their HD103 range you'll see that it says that the results are almost identical to a 7200rpm drive. That said I'd probably be more inclined to go with the one that I linked even though it's a more expensive model.
#12
Why only 1 Year Warranty?

Seems a bit strange for Samsung drives.
#13
Would this work in a PS3 ?
#14
the F1s are running at 7200, F2s are running at 5400

1 year warranty backed up by ebuyer because they are cheap imports without warranty that's why the price is so low compared with a normal 3 year warranty drive for around £65

your risk if you trust a HDD with no warranty from the manufacturer, ebuyer just offering that as required by law, could be a dodgy lot
#15
Clubcasualty
Would this work in a PS3 ?


no... these are 3.5" drives... ps3 takes 2.5:thumbsup:
#16
Will this work in a Sky + box?
#17
Matt.Wild
Will this work in a Sky + box?


No, you will need to use PATA (IDE) drives... for Sky HD they should be fine.

These are grey imports
#18
nwmark
This drive is all about low power usage, low heat and quiet operation.

If your not bothered about any of the above buy the standard F1

Also cold for me, ebuyer 1yr OEM samsung warranty :-(


Makes no difference. Sales & Goods act gives you up to six years.
#19
Cheap as chips, excellent for Popcorn or the likes:thumbsup:
#20
The one below was available yesterday, but went out of stock.

it seems quite good, vast than this one.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/437360/1tb-hitachi-deskstar-7k1000-b-sata-
It now has more than 10 available.

Neil
#21
dichromate
No, you will need to use PATA (IDE) drives... for Sky HD they should be fine.

These are grey imports


Be careful! Not all drives work in Sky HD boxes! I upgraded my samsung one to 750gb and it had to be a certain Seagate one - others used to make the machine turn off and not work correctly.
#22
Dean C
Makes no difference. Sales & Goods act gives you up to six years.


that is the limit for bringing a court case in England and Wales (five years from the time of discovery in Scotland's case). An item only needs to last as long as it is reasonable to expect it to, taking into account all the factors. An oil filter would usually not last longer than a year but that would not mean it was unsatisfactory.
#23
wow this is hot, these just get cheaper and cheaper

running 2 of them at the mo, very tempted to get another one at this price! bargain

have some rep and heat :)
#24
would this drive be any good for the netgear ready nas?
#25
Does anyone know what the difference is between the F1 Eco and F2 Eco ?
#26
They look identical to me
#27
does this work with ps3!??
#28
Some people seem confused as to what OEM kit is and why this stuff is cheaper.

There is usually absolutely no difference between an OEM drive and a retail drive other than the packaging and the warranty! The warranty is only 1 year because the idea is that it will be built into computers by dealers that typically carry a 1 year warranty. It would be a nightmare if all the parts in a computer carried different warranties.

Simples! :thumbsup:
#29
andycraze
the F1s are running at 7200, F2s are running at 5400

1 year warranty backed up by ebuyer because they are cheap imports without warranty that's why the price is so low compared with a normal 3 year warranty drive for around £65

your risk if you trust a HDD with no warranty from the manufacturer, ebuyer just offering that as required by law, could be a dodgy lot


Wrong.

F1 come in two models. The performance 7200rpm drive and the 5400rpm Ecodrives.
The new models are called F2. Again in two flavours. The 7200rpm and the 5400rpm Ecodrives.

Only Scan.co.uk claim to offer the proper 3 year warranty. Although Ebuyer's warranty seems ambigious. If you want the cheaper drives go for the ebuyer deal.

The F2 EcoDrive model is only £4 more.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164282
#30
Ego-X
Some people seem confused as to what OEM kit is and why this stuff is cheaper.

There is usually absolutely no difference between an OEM drive and a retail drive other than the packaging and the warranty! The warranty is only 1 year because the idea is that it will be built into computers by dealers that typically carry a 1 year warranty. It would be a nightmare if all the parts in a computer carried different warranties.

Simples! :thumbsup:


Kinda wrong.

Scan sells what seems like OEM bulk drives but they offer the 3 year warranty. But you are pretty much spot on for the rest. OEM drives are meant for system builders, not home users, although the two are not always mutually exclusive.

My F1 from scan, came in just a anti static bag with bubble wrap.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1TB-Samsung-HD103UJ-Spinpoint-F1-SATA-300-7200-rpm-32MB-Cache-89-ms-NCQ

"We are NOT that much more expensive, but what we have is Genuine Samsung NEW stock with full official 3 year direct warranty cover!
Remember ALL the Hard Drive brands we sell are official 3 or 5 years Maximum Warranty. Peace of Mind!
Many of our competitors sell Grey/imported or system integrator products with only 1 years warranty so they can achieve a lower price - but just look at what your missing out on !"
1 Like #31
Jupiter Obscure
Does anyone know what the difference is between the F1 Eco and F2 Eco ?


F2 has a very slight upper hand on it's predecessor. Specs here. I only included what appears to be the differences.

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/productmodel.do?group=72&type=61&subtype=78&model_cd=440&ppmi=1170#

F1
-----------------
Data Transfer Rate / Media to/from Buffer(Max.) 140 MB/sec
Acoustics Idle 2.70 Bel
Performance Seek 2.90 Bel
Power Requirements Voltage +5V±5%, +12V±10%
Spin-up Current (Max.) 2.0 A
Seek (typical) 5.6 W
Read/Write (typical) 6.2 W
Idle (typical) 5.0 W
Standby (typical) 0.5/0.8 W
Sleep (typical) 0.5/0.8 W
Weight (avg.) 640 g
---------------------------------

F2
-----------------------------------
Average Latency 5.52 ms
Data Transfer Rate / Media to/from Buffer(Max.) 166 MB/sec
Acoustics Idle 2.50 Bel
Performance Seek 2.80 Bel
Power Requirements Voltage +5V±5%, +12V±10%
Spin-up Current (Max.) 2.0A
Seek (typical) 5.2W
Read/Write (typical) 5.6W
Idle (typical) 4.4W
Standby (typical) 1W
Sleep (typical) 1W
Weight (avg.) 610 g
-------------------------------------
#32
Dean C
Makes no difference. Sales & Goods act gives you up to six years.


Try and put that point across when you come across any issues. Most retailers don't recognise this.
#33
babyboxer85
does this work with ps3!??


Yes.
you just need a philips screwdriver, a handsaw and a hammer.
oh, and to read the thread this question was answered already
#34
Clubcasualty
Would this work in a PS3 ?


You need a 2.5in drive if I'm correct. :thumbsup:
#35
Decent price, but http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/433100/samsung-1-5-tb-hard-drive-79-99-del/showthread.php?t=433100&page=2 is about the same value per £/MB and you know you'll end up needing that extra 0.5 TB sooner rather than later!
#36
Jupiter Obscure
Does anyone know what the difference is between the F1 Eco and F2 Eco ?

I am not sure if it's true for all F2 drive, but the 1TB and 1.5TB uses 500GB/platters.

In terms of [b]sequential[/b[ transfer rate, the F2 is competitive with many 7200RPM drives. But there is more to a HD performance than sequential transfer rate. There are faster drive you can buy if you don't mind a bit more noise.

The great thing about this drive though, is that it is more or less tied as the most quiet mechanical HD, and often a little cheaper than Western Digital's equivalent. And it is kinda far fetched to call this drive 'slow' for the typical desktop. I am using it as an OS drive while I am holding for SSD to get cheaper, and it turned out to be a lot better than I had expected (having previously used various Raptor and SCSI drives in other builds).
#37
arcsbite
Yes.
you just need a philips screwdriver, a handsaw and a hammer.
oh, and to read the thread this question was answered already


dude i have a life! anit got time to read every page :thumbsup:
#38
babyboxer85
dude i have a life! anit got time to read every page :thumbsup:


Have you any idea how arrogant that is?
#39
jnm21
Have you any idea how arrogant that is?


do i care? do you want the long or the short answer? :gift: pretty pretty!
#40
babyboxer85
dude i have a life! anit got time to read every page :thumbsup:


What rubbish, you're just either too lazy or too ignorant. I'm guessing a bit of both.

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