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thankyou kindly detectives :p will remove amazon from my deal :p
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The Amazon deal in #1 above is still available, & is preferable to Dixons, in view of Amazon's hassle-free returns policy.

Like many TVs, the C530 suffers from the 'panel lottery'. It will have an S-PVA panel or an A-MVA panel. There's a processor lottery too. It will have an MStar processor or a Trident processor. I don't know which permutation of the above is the most common in the LE40C530.

To avoid the panel &/or processor lottery, & get HD Freeview, superior picture quality & other benefits, get the Samsung LE40C580. £400 delivered from Amazon. Review here http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/samsung-le40c580-le32c580-20100728791.htm . 'Highly Recommended'.

A superb blend of picture quality & outstanding build quality. Glass stand, glass-effect bezel, metal rear casing, transparent bezel edging, red pinstripe at the base of the bezel. It oozes quality.

The Samsung LE40C580 has the Valencia processor, which delivers superior picture quality over MStar or Trident equipped TVs. The panel is an S-PVA. No panel or processor lottery with the LE40C580.

IMHO, it's worth the extra £50 just for the peace of mind from avoiding the panel &/or processor lottery, never mind the HD Freeview, superior picture quality, etc. Don't take my word for it... browse the 140 reviews left by people who bought one from Amazon.

The S-PVA panel in the LE40C580 may not be ideally suited for extended use as a PC monitor. If such use is important to you, consider a TV with an A-MVA or S-IPS panel.

Edited By: dooper on Apr 04, 2011 07:37: Forgot final comment
#5
Think I'm going to get this TV this week, is the 580 worth the extra considering I don't need freeview HD? Anyone got this TV?
#6
dooper
The Amazon deal in #1 above is still available, & is preferable to Dixons, in view of Amazon's hassle-free returns policy.

Like many TVs, the C530 suffers from the 'panel lottery'. It will have an S-PVA panel or an A-MVA panel. There's a processor lottery too. It will have an MStar processor or a Trident processor. I don't know which permutation of the above is the most common in the LE40C530.

To avoid the panel &/or processor lottery, & get HD Freeview, superior picture quality & other benefits, get the Samsung LE40C580. £400 delivered from Amazon. Review here http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/samsung-le40c580-le32c580-20100728791.htm . 'Highly Recommended'.

A superb blend of picture quality & outstanding build quality. Glass stand, glass-effect bezel, metal rear casing, transparent bezel edging, red pinstripe at the base of the bezel. It oozes quality.

The Samsung LE40C580 has the Valencia processor, which delivers superior picture quality over MStar or Trident equipped TVs. The panel is an S-PVA. No panel or processor lottery with the LE40C580.

IMHO, it's worth the extra £50 just for the peace of mind from avoiding the panel &/or processor lottery, never mind the HD Freeview, superior picture quality, etc. Don't take my word for it... browse the 140 reviews left by people who bought one from Amazon.

The S-PVA panel in the LE40C580 may not be ideally suited for extended use as a PC monitor. If such use is important to you, consider a TV with an A-MVA or S-IPS panel.


The C580 lacks 24p support. The review suggests panel lottery...chinese and slovakian panels and also to reduce lag must be played at 720p resolutions....
#7
5Rivers79
The C580 lacks 24p support. The review suggests panel lottery...chinese and slovakian panels and also to reduce lag must be played at 720p resolutions....


No panel lottery. In theory, there's a possibility of an A-MVA panel. In practice, no subscribers to the C580 thread on Avforums have reported getting anything but the S-PVA panel so far this year. The S-PVA panel is made by Samsung, the TV is assembled in Slovakia.

The C580 lacks true 24 support. it's a firmware issue, to which subscribers to the C580 thread on Avforums await Samsung's intentions. Samsung may fix it, or not. My girlfriend has a Sony KDL-40EX403. It has 24p support. I have a Samsung LE40C580. BD playback quality on both is about the same, i.e. perfectly satisfactory to us both.

Lack of 24p support does not mean unacceptable BD playback quality. 'Telecine Judder' sounds like an incurable disease, however, I cannot detect it, & neither can most people. Buy it from Amazon. If you detect judder with BD playback, then return it for refund or exchange.

Re gaming, see the 140 reviews on Amazon... search them for 'gaming'... many happy owners. Also see http://www.avforums.com/forums/13727998-post7.html
1 Like #8
naka_1888
Think I'm going to get this TV this week, is the 580 worth the extra considering I don't need freeview HD? Anyone got this TV?


I have it!

It's worth the extra £50 for the absence of panel & processor lottery.

It's worth the extra £50 for the superior SD & HD picture quality that the Valencia processor generates.

It's worth the extra £50 for the upmarket case & stand that makes it look twice it's pricetag.

It's worth the extra £50 for the HD Freeview, for those that want it.

Also see http://www.avforums.com/forums/13843223-post197.html
1 Like #9
dooper
5Rivers79
The C580 lacks 24p support. The review suggests panel lottery...chinese and slovakian panels and also to reduce lag must be played at 720p resolutions....


No panel lottery. In theory, there's a possibility of an A-MVA panel. In practice, no subscribers to the C580 thread on Avforums have reported getting anything but the S-PVA panel so far this year. The S-PVA panel is made by Samsung, the TV is assembled in Slovakia.

The C580 lacks true 24 support. it's a firmware issue, to which subscribers to the C580 thread on Avforums await Samsung's intentions. Samsung may fix it, or not. My girlfriend has a Sony KDL-40EX403. It has 24p support. I have a Samsung LE40C580. BD playback quality on both is about the same, i.e. perfectly satisfactory to us both.

Lack of 24p support does not mean unacceptable BD playback quality. 'Telecine Judder' sounds like an incurable disease, however, I cannot detect it, & neither can most people. Buy it from Amazon. If you detect judder with BD playback, then return it for refund or exchange.

Re gaming, see the 140 reviews on Amazon... search them for 'gaming'... many happy owners. Also see http://www.avforums.com/forums/13727998-post7.html



Telecine judder is very noticeable on panning scenes..take for example 3:10 To Yuma, you will notice it greatly in scenes where the camera pans across the mountain ranges and canyons.

The Tv has been out since July 2010, Samsung are probably not going to release any firmware to fix the problem of 24p.

Dont really need to read ppls comments regarding input lag.
40inch has 35ms of lag which is very bad imo
32inch had 14ms of lag which is great.

Thats quite a difference tbh. However some people wont even notice 60ms lag so no point looking at owners comments. Everyone will have a different tolerance just like they do with the 24p issue.

Also i believe there are no red & white phono outs to plug this into your reciever unless your reciever accepts optical.

Edited By: 5Rivers79 on Apr 04, 2011 14:03
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5Rivers79
Telecine judder is very noticeable on panning scenes..take for example 3:10 To Yuma, you will notice it greatly in scenes where the camera pans across the mountain ranges and canyons.


Noticeable to you, or perhaps you read it somewhere? Not noticeable to me, or the majority of people.

5Rivers79
The Tv has been out since July 2010, Samsung are probably not going to release any firmware to fix the problem of 24p.


You may be right... we live in hope.

5Rivers79
40inch has 35ms of lag which is very bad imo


Name a 40" TV with less lag.

5Rivers79
Also i believe there are no red & white phono outs to plug this into your reciever unless your reciever accepts optical.


See http://www.avforums.com/forums/14342432-post53.html

Anyone can find fault with any TV, no matter how much it costs. Stop carping, & name a better make/model of 40" TV for £400.

I believe the LE40C580 performs far in excess of it's price, & that there's nothing better this side of a Panasonic TXP42G20... see http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/sony-kdl40ex401-40-widescreen-full-hd-1080p-lcd-tv-with-freeview-was-599-now-394/908923/#post10955364
#11
red hot
#12
Does dooper get commission for every sale of the C580 or something?

(only kidding- appreciate your input!)X)
1 Like #13
dooper

Noticeable to you, or perhaps you read it somewhere? Not noticeable to me, or the majority of people.


I had a C580 and returned it due to the lack of true 24p. To me and everyone that watched the new star trek on bluray it was very obvious. We're not used to seeing telecine judder in this country due to everything being frame rate converted to PAL, so it stands out when watching panning in bluray films or any media that plays back at 24fps.

EDIT: forgot to mention. I contacted Samsung a while ago before returning the C580 about the 24p issue and was informed that they are aware of the issue, but it was working within specification. So I think it's highly unlikely that it will be fixed considering the D series tvs are are appearing.

Edited By: Shaedo on Apr 04, 2011 16:42
1 Like #14
dooper
5Rivers79
Telecine judder is very noticeable on panning scenes..take for example 3:10 To Yuma, you will notice it greatly in scenes where the camera pans across the mountain ranges and canyons.


Noticeable to you, or perhaps you read it somewhere? Not noticeable to me, or the majority of people.

5Rivers79
The Tv has been out since July 2010, Samsung are probably not going to release any firmware to fix the problem of 24p.


You may be right... we live in hope.

5Rivers79
40inch has 35ms of lag which is very bad imo


Name a 40" TV with less lag.

5Rivers79
Also i believe there are no red & white phono outs to plug this into your reciever unless your reciever accepts optical.


See http://www.avforums.com/forums/14342432-post53.html

Anyone can find fault with any TV, no matter how much it costs. Stop carping, & name a better make/model of 40" TV for £400.

I believe the LE40C580 performs far in excess of it's price, & that there's nothing better this side of a Panasonic TXP42G20... see http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/sony-kdl40ex401-40-widescreen-full-hd-1080p-lcd-tv-with-freeview-was-599-now-394/908923/#post10955364


1) Noticeable to me and the reviewer on HDTV test

2) Hope? Nearly a year gone and new sets are out or coming out. There wont be a firmware fix.

3) My old Sony W4500, solely used for gaming only has 10ms of input lag.

4) 3.5mm plug is not a good way to convert. Sound will be nowhere near as good quality. Much better to just use the optical out.
#15
50hz - so not for me
#16
dooper
naka_1888
Think I'm going to get this TV this week, is the 580 worth the extra considering I don't need freeview HD? Anyone got this TV?

I have it!

It's worth the extra £50 for the absence of panel & processor lottery.

It's worth the extra £50 for the superior SD & HD picture quality that the Valencia processor generates.

It's worth the extra £50 for the upmarket case & stand that makes it look twice it's pricetag.

It's worth the extra £50 for the HD Freeview, for those that want it.

Also seehttp://www.avforums.com/forums/13843223-post197.html

Couldnt agree more
1 Like #17
naka_1888
Think I'm going to get this TV this week, is the 580 worth the extra considering I don't need freeview HD? Anyone got this TV?


It doesn't have *true* 24p support, but I've not noticed any problems on our one. I was worried it would be a problem, spent ages wondering whether or not to go with the 650. For the extra £150 I'm glad I didn't. 24p is an inherent problem in the movie industry. Even if your tv supports it, 24 frames a second is too few for a fast pan.

The 580 does have a superior panel, and Freeview HD (handy for Champions League and stuff like that). From what I've read it's not a panel lottery for UK panels. I also didn't bother with 100Hz like on the 650. From standing in the shops watching football the difference is so slight, I couldn't see the benefit in the additional cost.

In my opinion it's a great tv. The only let down is the lack of internet tv. No iPlayer :(


Edited By: wolfman on Apr 04, 2011 17:21
#18
What on earth are you lot on about?
1 Like #19
5Rivers79
Noticeable to me and the reviewer on HDTV test


He liked the LE40C580 so much that he bought it! He also says... http://www.avforums.com/forums/13853295-post16.html & http://www.avforums.com/forums/13853237-post15.html

5Rivers79
3) My old Sony W4500, solely used for gaming only has 10ms of input lag.


Fair point. The current generation of TVs have more lag than older sets. 35ms is good by current standards.

5Rivers79
4) 3.5mm plug is not a good way to convert. Sound will be nowhere near as good quality. Much better to just use the optical out.


Agreed. I use Toslink. For those with an old amp & speaker setup, the 3.5mm plug is a fix until they get something newer.
#21
For anyone thinking of getting the C580 (and I agree it's worth the extra over the C530), don't forget that it's effectively last year's model and its replacement by the D580 is imminent. If it does everything you want and you can bag a good deal then fair enough, but if you're not in a rush to buy you might want hold out a bit longer.

I've ordered and returned (due to various unrelated QC issues) three C580s over the past month, now I think I might just wait another month or so and see what the D580 brings to the table.
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Dixons - First question should be "Have they got any "
#23
VladTheImpaler
For anyone thinking of getting the C580 (and I agree it's worth the extra over the C530), don't forget that it's effectively last year's model and its replacement by the D580 is imminent. If it does everything you want and you can bag a good deal then fair enough, but if you're not in a rush to buy you might want hold out a bit longer.

I've ordered and returned (due to various unrelated QC issues) three C580s over the past month, now I think I might just wait another month or so and see what the D580 brings to the table.


See http://www.avforums.com/forums/14346752-post56.html . Subscribers to the C580 thread on Avforums are underwhelmed by the D580. Until prices drop close to C580 levels, the C580 gives more 'bang for the buck'. It may be some months before D580 prices get sensible.
#24
Great discussion people.
#25
The Amazon price for the LE40C580 has suddenly shot up from £400 to £479, & when you click on 'Add to basket', this message appears... 'We're sorry. The item Samsung LE40C580 40-inch Widescreen Full HD 1080p Allshare LCD TV with Freeview HD is no longer available from the seller you selected'.

Looks like the LE40C580 is now obsolete, even before the D580 is on the shelves. Let's hope D580 pricing gets sensible asap.
#26
dooper

See http://www.avforums.com/forums/14346752-post56.html . Subscribers to the C580 thread on Avforums are underwhelmed by the D580. Until prices drop close to C580 levels, the C580 gives more 'bang for the buck'. It may be some months before D580 prices get sensible.

Well, it's already down to an advertised £535 at one place and once stock hits the big outlets over the coming weeks I'm sure there will be further significant falls, especially if the C580 is now EOL'd as looks to be the case.

As for the AVForums thread, it's all just speculation based on fairly minimal information available so far (the D580 isn't even mentioned on Samsung's own site yet). It looks like any changes will be evolutionary rather than revolutionary, but I'd hope at least for true 24p support, although that isn't really a dealbreaker for me if it isn't there.

I suppose the main worry is whether a panel and processor lottery will be in operation with the new model... oh well, at least the "rose black" has been ditched, I know many people liked it but I always thought it was tacky.

Apologies to anyone who came into this thread expecting (not unreasonably) to read a discussion about the C530... :D
#27
I brought this set at Richer sounds last week and hung it on the wall. Picture is amazing for me, i'm not fussed about freeview HD as I am getting Sky HD on it, well worth the £349.95 I spent.
#28
Can't see the LE40C580 on amazon fer £400 !
#29
anyone got a link to the LE40C580 on amazon fer £400 please?

thanx
#30
youraura
anyone got a link to the LE40C580 on amazon fer £400 please?

thanx


You will have to look elsewhere than Amazon for an LE40C580. See Comment #25 above.
#31
If you're seriously considering the LE40C530, also consider the LE37C530. Only £330 delivered from Amazon. Deal here... http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/samsung-le37c530-37-widescreen-full-hd-1080p-50hz-lcd-tv-with-freeview-329-99-am/912846

The particular attraction of the LE37C530 over the LE40C530 is the absence of a panel & processor lottery. The LE37C530 has the M-Star processor & A-MVA panel.

The downside of the LE37C530 is that it may have an annoying 'buzz', due to the panel inverter or the PSU. If so, use Amazon's hassle-free returns policy.
#33
Bought this tv (580 model) from john Lewis last Saturday, £439 with pricematch to Richer Sounds includes 5 year guarantee. Plenty of stock available at their warehouse if not instore and delivery is free. Not done much apart from plugged it in and connected sky box and sony blu ray. Picture looks fantastic with no adjustments and I understand it can be made better!! Tv looks very good with stand and bezel far superior to many more expensive sets.

Edited By: ambercatz on Apr 05, 2011 11:18
#34
ambercatz
Bought this tv (580 model) from john Lewis last Saturday, £439 with pricematch to Richer Sounds includes 5 year guarantee. Plenty of stock available at their warehouse if not instore and delivery is free. Not done much apart from plugged it in and connected sky box and sony blu ray. Picture looks fantastic with no adjustments and I understand it can be made better!! Tv looks very good with stand and bezel far superior to many more expensive sets.


Glad you like it. I just checked the JL website ... no trace of the LE40C580 any more!

For optimum picture quality, see http://www.avforums.com/forums/13692648-post697.html . Note that applying the settings in one source (e.g. Freeview) affects only that source, so you have to apply the settings to every source you will be using.
#35
Strange!! was definately on website Saturday morning under the offers section at £460. They have display model at Milton Keynes and the assistant checked instore for us and were showing more than 10 available at warehouse 1 at Northampton which we collected and 5 at watford store. didn't check any further as wanted to pick up saturday. Their stock no is 824-52203 and full designation is LE40C580J1KXXU May be worth contacting them if anyone interested in the deal which at 439 with guarantee is still excellent for this tv.
#36
As an adder .Richer Sounds still had stock available at Liverpool and Chiswick branches as well as being able to order in from their warehouse for collection from your local store within 3 days. £399 plus 10% for 5 year cover which is refunded if you dont claim!.
#37
Out of interest just phoned Watford store and quoted stock number 824-52203, they have them available for collection and warehouse are showing 3 for free home delivery. Price is £460.95 with delivery and 5 year guarantee included and they will price match richer sounds if they have store within 30 miles, for collection items only not,unfortunately for home delivery. Still excellent price with 5 years cover.You wont find better looking tv :).
#38
youraura
dixons seem to have the le40c580 for 400

[url=%0Ahttp://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/samsung-le40c580-40-full-hd-lcd-tv-05029560-pdt.html?srcid=867&xtor=AL-78&istCompanyId=4be69b13-f6de-4a80-8d9b-22e0185f57a7&istItemId=mripqir&istBid=t]
http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/samsung-le40c580-40-full-hd-lcd-tv-05029560-pdt.html?srcid=867&xtor=AL-78&istCompanyId=4be69b13-f6de-4a80-8d9b-22e0185f57a7&istItemId=mripqir&istBid=t[/url]

I want to buy this TV but unsure if l should buy it from Dixons because of their pre net only rep.Or am l being over careful ?
#39
dooper
The Amazon deal in #1 above is still available, & is preferable to Dixons, in view of Amazon's hassle-free returns policy.

Like many TVs, the C530 suffers from the 'panel lottery'. It will have an S-PVA panel or an A-MVA panel. There's a processor lottery too. It will have an MStar processor or a Trident processor. I don't know which permutation of the above is the most common in the LE40C530.

To avoid the panel &/or processor lottery, & get HD Freeview, superior picture quality & other benefits, get the Samsung LE40C580. £400 delivered from Amazon. Review herehttp://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/samsung-le40c580-le32c580-20100728791.htm . 'Highly Recommended'.

A superb blend of picture quality & outstanding build quality. Glass stand, glass-effect bezel, metal rear casing, transparent bezel edging, red pinstripe at the base of the bezel. It oozes quality.

The Samsung LE40C580 has the Valencia processor, which delivers superior picture quality over MStar or Trident equipped TVs. The panel is an S-PVA. No panel or processor lottery with the LE40C580.

IMHO, it's worth the extra £50 just for the peace of mind from avoiding the panel &/or processor lottery, never mind the HD Freeview, superior picture quality, etc. Don't take my word for it... browse the 140 reviews left by people who bought one from Amazon.

The S-PVA panel in the LE40C580 may not be ideally suited for extended use as a PC monitor. If such use is important to you, consider a TV with an A-MVA or S-IPS panel.


How would you find which panel and processor the TV has got after purchase.
I have just got the 580 for my parents, just set it up this eve, first impressions are that it is very good
#40
I bit the bullet,ordered(le40c580 for £400)today from dixons,they deliver it on Sunday.

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