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Samsung Polaris SSD 128GB M.2 2800MB/s Read 650MB/s Write £56.39 @ Novatech

£56.39 @ Novatech
Seems very good for Me PCIE 3.0, M.2, NVME http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/harddrives-internal/ssdsolidstate/pciexpress/mzvlw256hehp-00000.html 256gb Version- 2800Mbs, 1100Mbs £94… Read More
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8m, 2w agoFound 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Seems very good for Me
PCIE 3.0, M.2, NVME

http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/harddrives-internal/ssdsolidstate/pciexpress/mzvlw256hehp-00000.html

256gb Version- 2800Mbs, 1100Mbs £94.98
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Or spend a bit more and get 960 Evo https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01M211K53/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_13?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
if you want the 256GB, of course.

Edited By: KiretoX on Nov 08, 2016 00:06
1 Like #2
KiretoX
Or spend a bit more and get 960 Evo https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01M211K53/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_13?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
if you want the 256GB, of course.
when are the 960 evos getting a uk release?
#3
JC2MULTIPLAYER000
KiretoX
Or spend a bit more and get 960 Evo https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01M211K53/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_13?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
if you want the 256GB, of course.
when are the 960 evos getting a uk release?


It's still missing from the UK website, strangely. So I don't know.
1 Like #4
After fitting a Samsung SM951 M.2 NVMe drive this Youtube video pretty much sums up my thought about it....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aLW7Bk5Zgk

....overall offers very little noticeable difference over an SSD drive.
#5
VimesUK
After fitting a Samsung SM951 M.2 NVMe drive this Youtube video pretty much sums up my thought about it....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aLW7Bk5Zgk
....overall offers very little noticeable difference over an SSD drive.

I vote the other way, unfortunately I can't compare SATA vs NVMe SSDs in the same system but my laptop with a samsung PM951 feels a heck of a lot snappier than my workstation with dual intel 335s in RAID 0. Latency's probably the deciding factor and there's no doubting NVMe's got lower latency.
2 Likes #6
KiretoX
JC2MULTIPLAYER000
KiretoX
Or spend a bit more and get 960 Evo https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01M211K53/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_13?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
if you want the 256GB, of course.
when are the 960 evos getting a uk release?
It's still missing from the UK website, strangely. So I don't know.
I think they're waiting for the brexit nonsense to calm down, and for the pound to bottom out before setting a price that will be too low and lose them money, or too high and alienate their british customers
#7
Is this compatible with Macbook Air? Thanks..
1 Like #8
CampGareth
VimesUK
After fitting a Samsung SM951 M.2 NVMe drive this Youtube video pretty much sums up my thought about it....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aLW7Bk5Zgk
....overall offers very little noticeable difference over an SSD drive.
I vote the other way, unfortunately I can't compare SATA vs NVMe SSDs in the same system but my laptop with a samsung PM951 feels a heck of a lot snappier than my workstation with dual intel 335s in RAID 0. Latency's probably the deciding factor and there's no doubting NVMe's got lower latency.

The guy who made the video doesn't know the difference between an SM951 and 950 Pro - first red flag. They are different skus with slightly different performance

Anyway, I'm very happy with my 950 Pro, and would never go back to SATA. Flash memory has outgrown the old interface, and only PCIe can provide the bandwidth to take advantage of the ever growing speeds.
#9
At this rate I will never own a motherboard with an M2 slot!
Kaby looks like another disappointment, roll on Cannonlake... :(
#10
I know virtually zero about this drives. Can anyone advise how many laptops (I guessing few?) have these M.2 connectors and are there any half decent cheapo laptops, that normally come with spinning drives, have additional M.2 connections? Just seems a nice way to get that (better than normal) SSD speedup.
#11
beastman
I know virtually zero about this drives. Can anyone advise how many laptops (I guessing few?) have these M.2 connectors and are there any half decent cheapo laptops, that normally come with spinning drives, have additional M.2 connections? Just seems a nice way to get that (better than normal) SSD speedup.

If it's high end or thin it's got an M.2 slot. Can't advise on the low end since my Dell XPS 13 was £700 so not cheapo but not ludicrous.
1 Like #12
VimesUK
After fitting a Samsung SM951 M.2 NVMe drive this Youtube video pretty much sums up my thought about it....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aLW7Bk5Zgk
....overall offers very little noticeable difference over an SSD drive.

NVMe wasn't designed to replace SATA immediately in the home user domain. It's firmly targeted at high end workstations, servers and data centers. These are areas that are being bottlenecked right now by SATA due to latency.

It's low latency and queue depth are the big two things which make it so powerful. Here is a good paper on their impact on database times: https://www.cs.utah.edu/~manua/pubs/systor15.pdf

Lastly, we characterize the performance of multiple
cloud databases (both relational and NoSQL) on stateof-the-art
NVMe drives, and compare that to their performance
on enterprise-class SATA-based SSDs. We show that
NVMe-backed database applications deliver up to 8× superior
client-side performance over enterprise-class, SATAbased
SSDs.

That's a massive increase for those type of operations.

They have made their way into laptops due to being more power efficient. Keep in mind that NVMe can actually move the bottleneck to your CPU, so there isn't much point paring one with a low end CPU either.

So for home users, yeah, don't really expect an increase. If you work with large datasets though, it can have a big impact. I used to use a RAM drive for some of my datasets due to the lower latency over a SSD, but NVMe has made that largely pointless.
1 Like #13
My Build

Installed the 256GB version (£78 from Novatech at the time) in my Z170 Extreme4 6 weeks ago...cold boot from button press to desktop in Windows 10 ~8secs.

About the same cost as a decent 250GB SSD so no brainer for me!




Edited By: leetron on Nov 08, 2016 17:46: more info
#14
nomnomnomnom

That's a massive increase for those type of operations.
They have made their way into laptops due to being more power efficient. Keep in mind that NVMe can actually move the bottleneck to your CPU, so there isn't much point paring one with a low end CPU either.
So for home users, yeah, don't really expect an increase. If you work with large datasets though, it can have a big impact. I used to use a RAM drive for some of my datasets due to the lower latency over a SSD, but NVMe has made that largely pointless.

if you just open a single program at time then no there's no difference, even if if you have 1000plus images in a folder, it will probably open them 1 or 2s faster.

Its multiple things at the same where, say 90k iops is just isn't enough and along with the bottleneck of 600MB/s that will hurt a demanding user. That said i doubt you could max that scenario out on a 128gb card :p on a 2TB card yes you could.. Anyway what i described is sql like in terms of operations
#15
can i use this in MacBook Pro 13.3 (March 2015 model)
#16
This is or high end conventional ssd drive?
#17
vinayhr77
can i use this in MacBook Pro 13.3 (March 2015 model)


You cannot use any M.2 drive in any recent MacBook as those have proprietary hard drive connectors. There are cheap adapters for 2280 NGFF drives for the 2010/2011 MacBook Airs, however anything later, including the retina MacBook (Pro) uses a special PCIe drive unique to Apple with no adapter yet available as far as I know. Your only option is eBay for drives extracted from other MacBooks or very expensive new drives from OWC or Transcend.
#18
KiretoX
Or spend a bit more and get 960 Evo https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01M211K53/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_13?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
if you want the 256GB, of course.
EUR 135,61 is not exactly a bit more but nearer twice the price due to weak pound.
#19
Agharta
KiretoX
Or spend a bit more and get 960 Evo https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01M211K53/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_13?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF
if you want the 256GB, of course.
EUR 135,61 is not exactly a bit more but nearer twice the price due to weak pound.
double the price but double the capacity too

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