SAMSUNG PS50C490 50" HD Ready Plasma 3D Television £529 @ Dixons - HotUKDeals
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#1
very good price
#2
not really £549 if you shop around and a pair of 3d glasses and its only 720p
#3
Very good value for money, although I tested this perticular model at the store and it is not ideal for 3D as its got ghosting and is very slow...
#4
I would have agreed with you at one point pipppy , however , I have recently purchased a 3d 720p projector and at a 110" screen its actually quite difficult to tell the difference from my mates 1080p projector. And it seems a good price , however a lot of people don't like the 3d on this , complaints of crosstalk etc, although can't comment myself. But it seems a great deal to me.
#5
Does this come with any glasses? If not where and how much? Dixons £85 per pair??
4 Likes #6
why do tech firms still think it OK to sell 720p I mean on a 50inch!
2 Likes #7
its not even 1080p. no-one should buy this!
1 Like #8
this is the first time i have ever seen this tv getting hot on here. probably because its around £50 cheaper than it normally is. its still a poor excuse for a 3d tv though, one to be avoided
1 Like #9
Just a quick note to anyone thinking about buying a 720p TV. On most Blu-rays that are released you cannot see the difference between a 720p and 1080p version as there is no 1080p detail there, outside of film grain. There are very good blu-ray releases out there, mostly Animations that have plenty of 1080p detail but most things you watch do not.

I downloaded a pack of 720p vs 1080p remuxes/encodes. I played them on both my 1080p 42" TV and 1080p 108" projector. On all but Avatar and Bee Movie I couldn't tell the difference. On a 50" TV when you're sitting in a normal environment (i.e. not close to it like a monitor) you will not notice any difference at all.

But best way to tell is to take some 720p encodes vs 1080p remuxes yourself via a laptop and ask a store if you can try them out. I know Curry's let me do this.
#10
1365 x 768 Pixel (HD)
4 Likes #11
every single time.
at some point, people stopped caring if a TV had a great picture, accurate colours and good sound and they now only care how many pixels it has.

am voting cold cos its not 1440p
#12
Do you have a link?
pipppy
not really £549 if you shop around and a pair of 3d glasses and its only 720p
#13
Lots of ghosting on this tv .....but for the price what do you want .....(_;)
#14
slackrat77
every single time.
at some point, people stopped caring if a TV had a great picture, accurate colours and good sound and they now only care how many pixels it has.

am voting cold cos its not 1440p

Are you mad? More pixels will mean a great picture. Less pixels is a less quality picture, so there are much better TV's with "great pictures" out there. Also Plasma is known for giving the most life like colours too, and sound isnt that important anymore as many people often buy 5.1 speakers.
2 Likes #15
Cold as it's not Ultra HDTV 4320P resolution,
#16
Its 549 at RS, I would rather deal with them than dixons here, its worth the extra 20.00 also seen this TV in action, its garbage, and the 3D sucks, sorry cold
Also seen this below 500 at one point
#17
Moneyboi
Very good value for money, although I tested this perticular model at the store and it is not ideal for 3D as its got ghosting and is very slow...
How can a plasma have ghosting? That sounds like something went seriously wrong - maybe the TV or the glasses were not OK?

I don't see why you would want such a big TV without Full HD resolution. Stupid design if you ask me, and not worth buying.
#18
Would they even **** send it if you bought it?
#19
MrPuddington
Moneyboi
Very good value for money, although I tested this perticular model at the store and it is not ideal for 3D as its got ghosting and is very slow...
How can a plasma have ghosting? That sounds like something went seriously wrong - maybe the TV or the glasses were not OK?

I don't see why you would want such a big TV without Full HD resolution. Stupid design if you ask me, and not worth buying.


probably because 3D is an absolute load of cack
banned#20
Wouldn't recommend buying this.
#21
Ruscoe21
slackrat77
every single time.
at some point, people stopped caring if a TV had a great picture, accurate colours and good sound and they now only care how many pixels it has.

am voting cold cos its not 1440p


Are you mad? More pixels will mean a great picture. Less pixels is a less quality picture, so there are much better TV's with "great pictures" out there. Also Plasma is known for giving the most life like colours too, and sound isnt that important anymore as many people often buy 5.1 speakers.


I assume you are trolling, more pixels does not necessarily mean a better picture at all. 1080p is often one of the features of televisions you can't see the benefit of at normal viewing distances. There are plenty of 1080P LCDs in supermarkets that have dire pictures far worse than 720p plasmas and even 480p plasmas. Horrible juddery motion, mpeg artifacts a plenty from their built in freeview tuner and unrealistic colours plus poor black levels.

I'd rather have a 720p 50" plasma ( a good one of course) than a 1080p 42" plasma because I'd get more enjoyment out of the extra 8" screen size than the finer pixels of 1080p at my viewing distances.
#22
more pixels =better picture....if the input source is the same res as the TV's native res.
if not, something is gonna have to do some upcaling.

try taking a small photo on your computer and zooming it to to make it full screen....thats what your TV is doing with a non 1080p source. how good the picture looks depends on the scaling capability of the software/gpu.

so you can argue that on a less than 1080p source, having more pixels is a worse picture as the TV has to scale it up further than on a 720p screen.
4 Likes #23
lilmonkey259
Wouldn't recommend buying this.

Thanks for an in-depth review.
1 Like #24
slackrat77
more pixels =better picture....if the input source is the same res as the TV's native res.
if not, something is gonna have to do some upcaling.

try taking a small photo on your computer and zooming it to to make it full screen....thats what your TV is doing with a non 1080p source. how good the picture looks depends on the scaling capability of the software/gpu.

so you can argue that on a less than 1080p source, having more pixels is a worse picture as the TV has to scale it up further than on a 720p screen.



The point is that a low quality budget 1080P screen may well not perform well if it has poor image processing capability whereas a better quality 720P (or 768 for the purists) may give far better overall looking results if it can process images better. Having many more pixels on the panel won't help if the TV processes the images in a way that gives a crumby looking image... it'll just be display a higher quantity of pixels all giving poor results.

Certainly more pixels means more detail but if the processing of the image is poor and produces juddery, smeary, lacklustre pictures (as often seen on budget LCD's) then the fact it has more pixels is not to be taken as a measure of image quality,

As with many things in the eletronics industry, more doesn't always equate to better...... just like a budget 500watt max power output amplifier connected to decent speakers may still sound rubbish compared to a quality 50 watt rms output amp.


Edited By: spannerzone on May 22, 2011 13:18
#25
Very good TV bought it a while back am delighted with it.

If you have any doubts then go and try and see it in action rather than listen to people who have never even seen it working.

The picture is very good and the 3d is absolutely fantastic.

As has been pointed out before you don't actually need 1080p unless you have a blu ray player as Sky HD is broadcast at 1080i anyway!
#26
ive borught this and can vouch for it. Ive got a virgin box hd and that nly broadcasts in 720p anway. The picture quality is good. If you can find a tv for this price with 3D tell me it. Id rather have 720p with 3D rather than 1080p and no 3D. I think people just assume too much here, unless you have it, you can't say its bad. I have it, and can say im pleased with it. No its not the best TV, but for the price, its a value for money deal. Too many ignorant people on here just looking at the specs, 1080p and 720p wont have much difference, i can assure you that. Obviously 1080p is slightly better, bu the price for the ideal samsung tv comparisble to this which is in 1080p is around £750-£800.If your not going to go for 3D, then go for a 1080p which can be brought for less than £500.. But for 3D, 50inch, 600hz i doubt you an find a cheaper one elsewhere..& for the people winging about the 3D ghosting,, i have this and its been perfect so far.. One thing i would suggest is get it from richer sounds for the extra £60-£70 more, gives you 5 years warranty.


http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/samsung-ps50c6900-50-3d-full-hd-plasma-tv-07037161-pdt.html -the similar version in 1080p, £954.90. So stop winging look at the price difference for 1080p


Edited By: yasser_7862 on May 22, 2011 14:02: :)
#27
1080p is only slightly better than 720p, where did you get that information? Of course 1080p is better than 720p, much better? Yes. The only problem here is getting true 1080p source, but once you have that. Sorted.
#28
With regards to the 1080P it really doesn't make that much difference, I have a four year old Pioneer 50" which is 720 and I would say the Picture quality is still better than most 1080P's today, its certainly better than my Sony 1080P TV which I bought 3 months ago.
#29
only 720p on screens larger than 32 should be avoided.
#30
Tequila
only 720p on screens larger than 32 should be avoided.

and what do you base this on?
#31
Soulreape
I would have agreed with you at one point pipppy , however , I have recently purchased a 3d 720p projector and at a 110" screen its actually quite difficult to tell the difference from my mates 1080p projector. And it seems a good price , however a lot of people don't like the 3d on this , complaints of crosstalk etc, although can't comment myself. But it seems a great deal to me.


Watching Avatar on Blu-Ray at 1080p is a lot better than watching it on a 720p TV. More than 2x detail.
#32
For info : screen res - size - viewing distance info:
http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.png
#33
I like the way people have voted cold because it's spec is lower than much more expensive models. If you're voting cold can you post a link to something better for the same money? I suspect not. It might not be great but if you've got a couple of young kids who watch all that 3D Transformers **** then this is a decent TV for not much money.
#34
so would anyone rate this a better buy than the samsung LE46C750. I know there's about £150 price difference but thats the tv I've been looking at getting recently but if this is good then may be worth getting. Any ideas?
#35
TSV123
I like the way people have voted cold because it's spec is lower than much more expensive models. If you're voting cold can you post a link to something better for the same money? I suspect not. It might not be great but if you've got a couple of young kids who watch all that 3D Transformers **** then this is a decent TV for not much money.

I agree for some people different things are more important, at least samsung are trying to make large 3d tv's accessible to people on a lower budget.Some people may want to get this to try out 3d or want a large tv and then get a better spec one sometime down the line
#36
Ruscoe21
slackrat77
every single time.
at some point, people stopped caring if a TV had a great picture, accurate colours and good sound and they now only care how many pixels it has.

am voting cold cos its not 1440p


Are you mad? More pixels will mean a great picture. Less pixels is a less quality picture, so there are much better TV's with "great pictures" out there. Also Plasma is known for giving the most life like colours too, and sound isnt that important anymore as many people often buy 5.1 speakers.


Since when has more pixels meant better quality, frustrating people who comment! It means higher resolution and higher detail IF and only IF what you are watching is recorded in 1080p more than likely not! Better back-lighting, contrast ratio and response times are just as important. Also the human high doesn't really tell the difference between 1080p and 720p unless you're right up to the screen.
#37
eye*
#38
roi3erto
Ruscoe21
slackrat77
every single time.
at some point, people stopped caring if a TV had a great picture, accurate colours and good sound and they now only care how many pixels it has.

am voting cold cos its not 1440p


Are you mad? More pixels will mean a great picture. Less pixels is a less quality picture, so there are much better TV's with "great pictures" out there. Also Plasma is known for giving the most life like colours too, and sound isnt that important anymore as many people often buy 5.1 speakers.


Since when has more pixels meant better quality, frustrating people who comment! It means higher resolution and higher detail IF and only IF what you are watching is recorded in 1080p more than likely not! Better back-lighting, contrast ratio and response times are just as important. Also the human high doesn't really tell the difference between 1080p and 720p unless you're right up to the screen.


Complete nonsense - you either have terrible eyes or a terrible telly. Many of my ps3 games are in 720p and my 360 (upscaled) in 1080p and there is a hugely noticeable difference. This is on a 40" LCD and from 4 metres away. Try adjuecting your monitor between the two resolutions and see if you can spot the difference!

So if you have no HD consoles, no HD tv inputs or blu ray players, sure , go for this - if not spend a bit more and get a 1080p tv and future proof yourself a bit at least.
#39
paulbrannan
roi3erto
Ruscoe21
slackrat77
every single time.
at some point, people stopped caring if a TV had a great picture, accurate colours and good sound and they now only care how many pixels it has.

am voting cold cos its not 1440p


Are you mad? More pixels will mean a great picture. Less pixels is a less quality picture, so there are much better TV's with "great pictures" out there. Also Plasma is known for giving the most life like colours too, and sound isnt that important anymore as many people often buy 5.1 speakers.


Since when has more pixels meant better quality, frustrating people who comment! It means higher resolution and higher detail IF and only IF what you are watching is recorded in 1080p more than likely not! Better back-lighting, contrast ratio and response times are just as important. Also the human high doesn't really tell the difference between 1080p and 720p unless you're right up to the screen.


Complete nonsense - you either have terrible eyes or a terrible telly. Many of my ps3 games are in 720p and my 360 (upscaled) in 1080p and there is a hugely noticeable difference. This is on a 40" LCD and from 4 metres away. Try adjuecting your monitor between the two resolutions and see if you can spot the difference!

So if you have no HD consoles, no HD tv inputs or blu ray players, sure , go for this - if not spend a bit more and get a 1080p tv and future proof yourself a bit at least.


Complete tosh - 720p Plasma will outperform a 1080p LCD almost every time. Apples and Oranges. The only people who subscribe to this thinking are those who blew a shedload of money on 1080p LCDs thinking they were going to do a better job. My 1366 x 768 50" LG is 3 years old and STILL gives a better picture than my Son's new 32" 1080p LCD.
#40
I would hope that we could talk about whether this is a hot deal though I suppose the argument about picture quality factors into that.

My eyesight is fine and I remain unconvinced that most people can tell the difference, though many claim they can.

Personally - this is a hot deal and thanks to the poster.

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