Samsung SM2233RZ 22" 3D Monitor (Gloss Black) £181.99 ( Was £399) @ Amazon - HotUKDeals
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* 2D and 3D-ready widescreen
* Fast response time
* 120 Hz technology
* High dynamic contrast ratio
* Compatible with NVIDA glasses

* Product Description: Samsung SyncMaster 2233RZ - LCD display - 3D Ready - TFT - 22"
* Device Type: LCD display / TFT active matrix
* 3D Technology: Yes
* Colour: High glossy black
* Dimensions (WxDxH): 51.7 cm x 20.9 cm x 42.1 cm - with stand
* Weight: 5.2 kg
* Diagonal Size: 22" - widescreen
* Max Resolution: 1680 x 1050
* Display Positions Adjustments: Tilt
* Colour Support: 16.7 million colours
* Response Time: 3 ms
* Image Brightness: 300 cd/m2
* Image Contrast Ratio: 1000:1 / 20000:1 (dynamic)
* Digital Video Standard: Digital Visual Interface (DVI)
* Signal Input: DVI-D
* Microsoft Certification: Compatible with Windows 7
* Compliant Standards: DDC-2B
* Power Consumption Operational: 50 Watt
* Environmental Standards: ENERGY STAR Qualified

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Main Specifications

* Product Description: Samsung SyncMaster 2233RZ - LCD display - 3D Ready - TFT - 22"
* Device Type: LCD display / TFT active matrix
* 3D Technology: Yes
* Colour: High glossy black
* Dimensions (WxDxH): 51.7 cm x 20.9 cm x 42.1 cm - with stand
* Weight: 5.2 kg
* Diagonal Size: 22" - widescreen
* Max Resolution: 1680 x 1050
* Display Positions Adjustments: Tilt
* Colour Support: 16.7 million colours
* Response Time: 3 ms
* Image Brightness: 300 cd/m2
* Image Contrast Ratio: 1000:1 / 20000:1 (dynamic)
* Digital Video Standard: Digital Visual Interface (DVI)
* Signal Input: DVI-D
* Microsoft Certification: Compatible with Windows 7
* Compliant Standards: DDC-2B
* Power Consumption Operational: 50 Watt
* Environmental Standards: ENERGY STAR Qualified

Nvidia 3D glasses are not included and will add a lot to the cost of this monitor and its not full HD
- polly69
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#1
this will get hot !!
1 Like #2
It's not 1080p, and the glasses cost an extra £100 or so, this also won't support 3D over HDMI from anything except a computer running Nvidia's proprietary software. For that reason, as well as the general low quality of the 3d on older monitors, and the high prices of active 3d 1080p monitors today that still only work with Nvidia's kit, I'm going to hold out for a bit. Just a bit of input for those considering.
#3
koalauk
this will get hot !!


Yep hotter than the temperature of a frozen lake in the north pole after a cup of hot coffee has been thrown on it.....
#4
Will this work with ps3 via dvi to hdmi to show 3d for games like black ops?
#6
if i hooked this up to my ps3 and used the samsung glasses from my samsung tv could I watch 3D Blu rays ?
#7
This has been 199 on OCUK for about 2 months....not voted

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-120-SA

**EDIT**

I will vote hot as it is the cheapest around I suppose :)

Edited By: bbeettaa on Jan 02, 2011 22:24
#8
patrick2403
Will this work with ps3 via dvi to hdmi to show 3d for games like black ops?



bryngreen
if i hooked this up to my ps3 and used the samsung glasses from my samsung tv could I watch 3D Blu rays ?


Unfortunately not. This monitor does not support HDMI 1.4 (or any HDMI!) You can only use it with NVidia's hardware.
#9
GFunk
patrick2403
Will this work with ps3 via dvi to hdmi to show 3d for games like black ops?



bryngreen
if i hooked this up to my ps3 and used the samsung glasses from my samsung tv could I watch 3D Blu rays ?


Unfortunately not. This monitor does not support HDMI 1.4 (or any HDMI!) You can only use it with NVidia's hardware.


Thanks for the answer :) Thats a shame!
#10
after what everyone has said in these comments, cold from me. Sorry
#11
Saw this last night and didn't think it rated a post as all it is really is a Samsung monitor and not a very good one at that to watch 3D you need the Nvidia kit which makes this a very expensive 22inch and its not 1080p.
#12
cheapest the glasses come up at are £85 from Tesco
http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.208-0529.aspx

http://ces.cnet.com/i/bto/20090107/Nvidia_GeForce_Vision_3D_610x444.jpg
#13
But would you even need 1080p on a monitor that is only 22inches
#14
Used these the other night at a friends house. They're a great piece of kit if you can afford them. Worked brilliantly on L4D2.
#15
I really doubt you'd notice the differnce between 720 and 1080 on a tv this small
#16
shareef
But would you even need 1080p on a monitor that is only 22inches


I have a 23inch Dell and its 1080p and its needed for a good pic especially with the 3D side of things you must remember that this set is aimed at the people who have high end graphics cards so the whole point is the best picture and effects possible a £30 graphics card will be no good for 3D gaming.

You don't see 3D TV's that are HD ready and the HD ready thing is starting to die out most TV's are now 1080p and bluray is designed for fullHD so what's the whole point of this monitor your going to get a 3D monitor play back HD in 3D then downgrade the image to 720p and before the smart **** come in and say you wont see any difference, you will when your sat close to a 720p set.
#17
polly69
cheapest the glasses come up at are £85 from Tesco
http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.208-0529.aspx


http://ces.cnet.com/i/bto/20090107/Nvidia_GeForce_Vision_3D_610x444.jpg


Those are only for an extra pair of glasses, useless without the IR thing that syncs the glasses to the monitor.
1 Like #18
nepenthes
I really doubt you'd notice the differnce between 720 and 1080 on a tv this small


Wondered how long it would be before this comment was made, all i can say is do you have a 1080p monitor? i doubt you do or you wouldn't make this daft comment if there was no difference in resolution why are we not still on 800x what ever it was simple answer is we demand a better quality picture especially when gaming and watching HD movies
#19
RokkaMan
polly69
cheapest the glasses come up at are £85 from Tesco[url=" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">
http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.208-0529.aspx


http://ces.cnet.com/i/bto/20090107/Nvidia_GeForce_Vision_3D_610x444.jpg


Those are only for an extra pair of glasses, useless without the IR thing that syncs the glasses to the monitor.


Your right just looked at the picture showing the IR didn't read the description well then that's another £20-£30 so over a £100 for the Nvidia kit. You could play your face up with Tesco though as the picture shows the entire kit and thats what i would expect as peopl dont tend to read everything when they see a picture showing the item.

Edited By: polly69 on Jan 02, 2011 23:07
#20
DeeKay86
after what everyone has said in these comments, cold from me. Sorry



... but an excellent price for the 'product' regardless. So, voted hot.
2 Likes #21
polly69
nepenthes
I really doubt you'd notice the differnce between 720 and 1080 on a tv this small


Wondered how long it would be before this comment was made, all i can say is do you have a 1080p monitor? i doubt you do or you wouldn't make this daft comment if there was no difference in resolution why are we not still on 800x what ever it was simple answer is we demand a better quality picture especially when gaming and watching HD movies


+1. The key here is the distance from the screen. Granted you may not notice the difference between 720p and 1080p when watching a BluRay on a 32" TV @ 7ft or whatever, but sat at a desk playing games with a keyboard and mouse - yes you will.
#22
Here you go on Scan the same set with the glasses is £330 so buying it this way will save you a bit as scan sell the 3D kit for £105 which makes the grand total of £293 all in so if you compare it to that decent buy. If i had to have a 3D setup would get the Asus 1080p from scan for around £270 which has better specs all round.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/22-bundle-samsung-nvidia-3d-vision-syncmaster-2233rz-120hz-lcd-plus-nvidia-geforce-3d-vision-glasses
#23
GFunk
polly69
nepenthes
I really doubt you'd notice the differnce between 720 and 1080 on a tv this small


Wondered how long it would be before this comment was made, all i can say is do you have a 1080p monitor? i doubt you do or you wouldn't make this daft comment if there was no difference in resolution why are we not still on 800x what ever it was simple answer is we demand a better quality picture especially when gaming and watching HD movies


+1. The key here is the distance from the screen. Granted you may not notice the difference between 720p and 1080p when watching a BluRay on a 32" TV @ 7ft or whatever, but sat at a desk playing games with a keyboard and mouse - yes you will.


We have a winner with a 22inch monitor you are going to spend your life 1-2feet from the screen gaming or watching movies and at that range the difference will be noticeable the further away you are the harder it will be to notice but the key is the distance when gaming with keyboard and mouse.
#24
shareef
But would you even need 1080p on a monitor that is only 22inches

Of course, you wouldn’t want anything less!
It’s a monitor not a TV so you are sitting close to it and when used as a regular monitor without the 3D glasses the benefit of 1080P is very noticeable.
#25
polly69
shareef
But would you even need 1080p on a monitor that is only 22inches


I have a 23inch Dell and its 1080p and its needed for a good pic especially with the 3D side of things you must remember that this set is aimed at the people who have high end graphics cards so the whole point is the best picture and effects possible a £30 graphics card will be no good for 3D gaming.

You don't see 3D TV's that are HD ready and the HD ready thing is starting to die out most TV's are now 1080p and bluray is designed for fullHD so what's the whole point of this monitor your going to get a 3D monitor play back HD in 3D then downgrade the image to 720p and before the smart **** come in and say you wont see any difference, you will when your sat close to a 720p set.


Dont know how 1080p would impact on 3D but I doubt that you need 1080p for a good pic on a 22" monitor.
#26
shareef
Dont know how 1080p would impact on 3D but I doubt that you need 1080p for a good pic on a 22" monitor.

It's not about the picture quality but about how many pixels you have. The more you have the more information you can display on the screen which is great for multi-tasking.
e.g. browser on left hand side, word processor on right hand side etc.
1 Like #27
polly69
shareef
But would you even need 1080p on a monitor that is only 22inches


I have a 23inch Dell and its 1080p and its needed for a good pic especially with the 3D side of things you must remember that this set is aimed at the people who have high end graphics cards so the whole point is the best picture and effects possible a £30 graphics card will be no good for 3D gaming.

You don't see 3D TV's that are HD ready and the HD ready thing is starting to die out most TV's are now 1080p and bluray is designed for fullHD so what's the whole point of this monitor your going to get a 3D monitor play back HD in 3D then downgrade the image to 720p and before the smart **** come in and say you wont see any difference, you will when your sat close to a 720p set.


Um... where to start?

Firstly, this monitor is 1680x1050, not 720p (or even close to it).

Secondly, running games maxed out in 3D at 1920x1080 requires some seriously grunty hardware. Even the GTX580 doesn't fare all that well on Just Cause 2, Bad Company 2 and other recent games. You'd need a pair of those cards to handle Crysis or Metro 2033 at a decent frame rate.

Thirdly, 3DTVs can't handle 1080p in 3D at 60Hz. You have to choose between 1080p at 24Hz or 720p at 60Hz. As such nobody will be gaming in 3D at 1080p on these sets, unless you find 24fps playable?

Why exactly is 1080p 'needed' for a good picture on a computer? Have computer operating systems and PC games suddenly become native 1080p when I wasn't looking? No? PC content scales itself to whatever resolution you pick, there is no 'best' resolution. Having a higher PPI count makes a difference though, giving a sharper image. In the case of 1680x1050 @ 22" vs 1920x1080 @ 23.6" there's roughly 5% difference in PPI, 88.9 vs 93.34. The 23.6" screen will be a little sharper, but not by much. It's such a small difference that it wouldn't be noticeable unless you put them side-by-side.

If you only have the budget and the hardware for the 22" 1680x1050 monitor then there's certainly nothing wrong with it. Obviously a 23.6" set at 1920x1080 would be preferable (or even better, 24" at 1920x1200) but they cost quite a bit more (at least another £60) and require more powerful hardware to drive them.

Personally I'm waiting for Scan to fix the links on their Today Only page, then ordering the Viewsonic. For £257 you get both the glasses and the monitor! Still voting this one hot though, if you want it for the 120Hz rather than the 3D it's a cracking deal.


Edited By: satchef1 on Jan 03, 2011 00:06: update
#28
looking for a new monitor: but this puts me off...Max Resolution: 1680 x 1050
#29
satchef1
polly69
shareef
But would you even need 1080p on a monitor that is only 22inches
I have a 23inch Dell and its 1080p and its needed for a good pic especially with the 3D side of things you must remember that this set is aimed at the people who have high end graphics cards so the whole point is the best picture and effects possible a £30 graphics card will be no good for 3D gaming.You don't see 3D TV's that are HD ready and the HD ready thing is starting to die out most TV's are now 1080p and bluray is designed for fullHD so what's the whole point of this monitor your going to get a 3D monitor play back HD in 3D then downgrade the image to 720p and before the smart **** come in and say you wont see any difference, you will when your sat close to a 720p set.
Um... where to start?Firstly, this monitor is 1680x1050, not 720p (or even close to it).Secondly, running games maxed out in 3D at 1920x1080 requires some seriously grunty hardware. Even the GTX580 doesn't fare all that well on Just Cause 2, Bad Company 2 and other recent games. You'd need a pair of those cards to handle Crysis or Metro 2033 at a decent frame rate.Thirdly, 3DTVs can't handle 1080p in 3D at 60Hz. You have to choose between 1080p at 24Hz or 720p at 60Hz. As such nobody will be gaming in 3D at 1080p on these sets, unless you find 24fps playable?Why exactly is 1080p 'needed' for a good picture on a computer? Have computer operating systems and PC games suddenly become native 1080p when I wasn't looking? No? PC content scales itself to whatever resolution you pick, there is no 'best' resolution. Having a higher PPI count makes a difference though, giving a sharper image. In the case of 1680x1050 @ 22" vs 1920x1080 @ 23.6" there's roughly 5% difference in PPI, 88.9 vs 93.34. The 23.6" screen will be a little sharper, but not by much. It's such a small difference that it wouldn't be noticeable unless you put them side-by-side.If you only have the budget and the hardware for the 22" 1680x1050 monitor then there's certainly nothing wrong with it. Obviously a 23.6" set at 1920x1080 would be preferable (or even better, 24" at 1920x1200) but they cost quite a bit more (at least another £60) and require more powerful hardware to drive them.Personally I'm waiting for Scan to fix the links on their Today Only page, then ordering the Viewsonic. For £257 you get both the glasses and the monitor! Still voting this one hot though, if you want it for the 120Hz rather than the 3D it's a cracking deal.

Some valid points, however it depends if the rig is solely for gaming. Otherwise you're giving away alot of real estate over a WXGA monitor when working. And if you also use it for viewing HD films etc, you're always going to be scaling/letter boxing (as opposed to a 1080p screen).
#30
satchef1
polly69
shareef
But would you even need 1080p on a monitor that is only 22inches


I have a 23inch Dell and its 1080p and its needed for a good pic especially with the 3D side of things you must remember that this set is aimed at the people who have high end graphics cards so the whole point is the best picture and effects possible a £30 graphics card will be no good for 3D gaming.

You don't see 3D TV's that are HD ready and the HD ready thing is starting to die out most TV's are now 1080p and bluray is designed for fullHD so what's the whole point of this monitor your going to get a 3D monitor play back HD in 3D then downgrade the image to 720p and before the smart **** come in and say you wont see any difference, you will when your sat close to a 720p set.


Um... where to start?

Firstly, this monitor is 1680x1050, not 720p (or even close to it).

Secondly, running games maxed out in 3D at 1920x1080 requires some seriously grunty hardware. Even the GTX580 doesn't fare all that well on Just Cause 2, Bad Company 2 and other recent games. You'd need a pair of those cards to handle Crysis or Metro 2033 at a decent frame rate.

Thirdly, 3DTVs can't handle 1080p in 3D at 60Hz. You have to choose between 1080p at 24Hz or 720p at 60Hz. As such nobody will be gaming in 3D at 1080p on these sets, unless you find 24fps playable?

Why exactly is 1080p 'needed' for a good picture on a computer? Have computer operating systems and PC games suddenly become native 1080p when I wasn't looking? No? PC content scales itself to whatever resolution you pick, there is no 'best' resolution. Having a higher PPI count makes a difference though, giving a sharper image. In the case of 1680x1050 @ 22" vs 1920x1080 @ 23.6" there's roughly 5% difference in PPI, 88.9 vs 93.34. The 23.6" screen will be a little sharper, but not by much. It's such a small difference that it wouldn't be noticeable unless you put them side-by-side.

If you only have the budget and the hardware for the 22" 1680x1050 monitor then there's certainly nothing wrong with it. Obviously a 23.6" set at 1920x1080 would be preferable (or even better, 24" at 1920x1200) but they cost quite a bit more (at least another £60) and require more powerful hardware to drive them.

Personally I'm waiting for Scan to fix the links on their Today Only page, then ordering the Viewsonic. For £257 you get both the glasses and the monitor! Still voting this one hot though, if you want it for the 120Hz rather than the 3D it's a cracking deal.



£257 for glasses AND the monitor? That's a good deal. Unfortunately I'd have to upgrade from my GTX260 SLI as well though, and at the moment it's still performing fine in all games @ 1080p.
#31
nepenthes
I really doubt you'd notice the differnce between 720 and 1080 on a tv this small

well then you would be wrong.
#32
yeah sure oO

DAZZ2000
koalauk
this will get hot !!


Yep hotter than the temperature of a frozen lake in the north pole after a cup of hot coffee has been thrown on it.....
#33
"We tend to overestimate the effect of a technology in the short run and underestimate the effect in the long run."

Roy Amara - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

3D monitors fit nice into Amara's Law :)

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