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Samsung SpinPoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB Hard Drive SATAII *32MB Cache* - £89.85 Delivered @ Ebuyer.com !!!!

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The Samsung Spinpoint F1 drive offers a superior combination of density, recording quality and reliability. It also features Samsung's industry-leading NoiseGuard and SilentSeek technologies to elimin…
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The Samsung Spinpoint F1 drive offers a superior combination of density, recording quality and reliability. It also features Samsung's industry-leading NoiseGuard and SilentSeek technologies to eliminate acoustic noise. Servers, high-end desktops, RAID systems and DVRs are among the applications well suited to the Spinpoint F1 drive.

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Product Description Samsung SpinPoint F1 HD103UJ - hard drive - 1 TB - SATA-300
Type Hard drive - internal
Form Factor 3.5" x 1/3H
Dimensions (WxDxH) 10.2 cm x 14.7 cm x 2.6 cm
Weight 0.6 kg
Capacity 1 TB
Interface Type Serial ATA-300
Data Transfer Rate 300 MBps
Average Seek Time 8.9 ms
Spindle Speed 7200 rpm
Buffer Size 32 MB

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#1
http://www.dollarshops.eu/mec/images/SAMSUNG/HD103UJ/HD103UJ_MAIN.jpg
#2
Hot to trot!
#3
Hot. I paid a few pounds more for this about 6 weeks ago. My drive is still working. Seems like I got one of the good ones.
#4
Good price, if you're willing to take a gamble... mine died after a couple of days :(

[SIZE="1"]Probably cheap because of the failures, getting shot of stock before it becomes common knowledge [/SIZE]
#5
been like that for a couple of days bought 3
#6
HOT.

Fast drive. Very quiet. Reliable. Excellent value for money. What more can you ask for?
#7
hi

I've got a PATA drive at the moment, what added connections/cards would I need so that this will run in my PC?

Thanks in advance for any replies
#8
Your Motherboard needs a free SATA port, which looks like this.

Do you know what Motherboard model you have?

You may also need a 4-pin molex to SATA power adapter if you have an older PSU, but these are very cheap and readily available.
#9
PoisonJam
Your Motherboard needs a free SATA port, which looks like this.

Do you know what Motherboard model you have?

You may also need a 4-pin molex to SATA power adapter if you have an older PSU, but these are very cheap and readily available.




Thanks for ur quick reply PJ
My PC is a Compaq Evo D510 Small Form Factor ,with no extra bays and 2 PCI slots, no SATA connection like the one on in the link.

Is there some kind of card i could still install for this HD to work in it?

Many Thanks
#10
This posted a few days ago [HERE] is a better deal imo, as the delivery is NextDay.

I ordered one yesterday and received it 3pm today. Installed and Formatted... seems to be ok - although running a little hotter than i would hope.
#11
DrnknMnky
This posted a few days ago [HERE] is a better deal imo, as the delivery is NextDay.

I ordered one yesterday and received it 3pm today. Installed and Formatted... seems to be ok - although running a little hotter than i would hope.


One of the great things about the Samsung drives is how cool they run and how little power they use - unlike their competitors, the Samsung drives are based on three platters with 3 pairs of heads - other similarly sized drives have 4 or 5 platters with 8 or 10 hands, hence greater heat, great power consumption and more parts to go wrong.

For example, I have a large tower case next to me fitted out with six 500GB Seagates in a Sata RAID5, one WD boot drive and two of the Samsung terabyte drives, with MBM reporting the following temperatures in degrees celsius:

CPU - 57 (ouch!)
Case - 37
Western Digital HDD - 45
Samsung HDD1 - 30
Samsung HDD2 - 30

- so it looks like it's fair to say the Samsung drives run nice and cool. Oh, and they're hellish fast compared to other drives too...

Before I got these I was a confirmed Seagate/Western Digital user, using other drives only where nothing else was available in the time needed. There's a good group test of terabyte drives on Tom's Hardware that rates the Samsung drive highly too.

It does seem there were some issues with the initial batch of Samsung terabyte drives, but that seems long past - any drive you get from ebyer or Scan is likely to be as reliable as any other drive these days. Don't know what Samsung's warranty service is like yet.

Hope this is of use to those mulling over these drives: cheap, cool and v. fast in my experience.
#12
username123
hi

I've got a PATA drive at the moment, what added connections/cards would I need so that this will run in my PC?

Thanks in advance for any replies


If your PC is an older one - there may also be a restriction on the capacity it can access on a disk in the BIOS. (131gig I think), so without reflashing - SATA could be your best bet.

If you get a SATA PCI or SATA PCI RAID card - and an adaptor for the power (moulex to SATA) this should let you run the drive.

Generally the cheapest I can think of in central Scotland (Glasgow) is World of Computers in Tradeston in Glasgow if you tty calling them for info.
#13
Ajibee
One of the great things about the Samsung drives is how cool they run and how little power they use - unlike their competitors, the Samsung drives are based on three platters with 3 pairs of heads - other similarly sized drives have 4 or 5 platters with 8 or 10 hands, hence greater heat, great power consumption and more parts to go wrong.

- so it looks like it's fair to say the Samsung drives run nice and cool. Oh, and they're hellish fast compared to other drives too...


Three pairs of heads is 6

Actuallly, I'm pretty sure western digital are using 320GB platters as well, they definitely are on their 320GB and 640GB drives but I'm not sure about the 1TB drive yet.

The samsung's could be magically efficient and wonderfully cool, but equally likely they could have their temperature sensor placed on a cooler part of the drive than their competitors. The behardware roundup placed the Samsung F1 1TB as hotter than the WD Greenpower 1TB and the Seagate 7200.11 1TB when temperatures were measured using a seperate thermometer in two different spots with the drives out of their casings. (the Samsung drives were reporting 3° cooler through software while actually being measured 2° hotter than the seagate)
#14
Ajibee

CPU - 57 (ouch!)
Case - 37
Western Digital HDD - 45
Samsung HDD1 - 30
Samsung HDD2 - 30

Your case cooling is screwed, so the above figures mean little.
#15
Ajibee


CPU - 57 (ouch!)
Case - 37
Western Digital HDD - 45
Samsung HDD1 - 30
Samsung HDD2 - 30



According to BeHardware (see http://www.behardware.com/articles/706-7/product-review-4-sata-1-tb-hdd.html), and my own testing, what you're saying is not correct!
I work in IT and after extensive testing we now only use Seagate drives (Seagate is also the only manufacturer that gives a 5-year warranty on their drives)! :thumbsup:
#16
Whenever I see spinpoint mentioned I always think of washing machines.
#17
Fact: These drives run very cool without and are practically stone cold to the touch if you have a fan in the drive bay.

They do seem to be more prone to errors on nFarce chipsets which have dodgy NCQ support than Seagate. I should qualify this comment by saying that Seagate drives had the benefit of motherboard bios updates back in the day, but this isn't going to happen on an obsolete S939 board like mine. The solution is the same disabling NCQ support in the Nvidia Sata Driver. I do wonder if some of this reports of faults on these drives are entirely due to the above.

Tempting price, but with Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB on the way 5year warranty same platter density performance. I think I'm going to wait.
#18
Voted Cold even though i bought two of these about one month ago for around £95.

Get the Seagate ST3100340AS 1TB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm *32MB Cache* - OEM for £94.95.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/134684
#19
Bought one of these lasted a month and then got read and write errors. Managed to get a RMA from ebuyer and there courier hasnt shown up again and again and.... avoid. I always wondered what people meant by the service at ebuyer but it is shocking if something goes wrong :(
#20
I recently purchased 3 from Scan and one is on the way back for exchange due to a fault. I suggest anyone purchasing one or more of these drives perform a low level surface scan to be sure the drive is fine before loading data on to it.
#21
alien7;2486781
According to BeHardware (see http://www.behardware.com/articles/706-7/product-review-4-sata-1-tb-hdd.html), and my own testing, what you're saying is not correct!
I work in IT and after extensive testing we now only use Seagate drives (Seagate is also the only manufacturer that gives a 5-year warranty on their drives)! :thumbsup:


I would then have to say your own testing is wrong.

I've got a workstation running as a server at home. It has 5 drives in it, a Maxtor Diamond Max 10 (300Gb), 2x Seagate Barricuda 11's (750Gb each), and two Samsung SpinPoint F1's (750Gb each).

As alien7 mentioned, the Samsung's do run very cool. Around 30-35C. Next hottest is my Maxtor running at 40C (or so), and by far the hottest are the Seagate's, both at a rather higher 45+C.

I've even moved them to the bottom of the case, and they still run the hottest. That's why I currently only by Samsung's. I even switched case from my Lian Li PC60 to an Antec P180 to improve cooling.

All my temps were taken using gkrelm in Debian.
#22
BlackAle;2486745
Your case cooling is screwed, so the above figures mean little.


Given that his hard drives and ambient are in the 30's then the figures do mean something.

What has it got to do with his case cooling? He may be overclocking his CPU.
#23
wolfman
Given that his hard drives and ambient are in the 30's then the figures do mean something.

What has it got to do with his case cooling? He may be overclocking his CPU.


What do HD temps have to do with OCing your CPU?

Case temps are everything, this is the environment the drive is in.


I wouldn't say these Samsungs run cooler than any other drives, but I've read many times on Silent PC Review that temps don't effect a hard drive's life-span drastically, certainly not within the life-cycle of a modern hard drive (5 years max before being replaced due to upgrade?). basically, the temps aren't really that important...
#24
Good deal as this drives works out at 8.7p per GB.

However this 750GB deal works out better value at 8p per GB, albeit slightly slower.
Only problem is that the 750GB drive seems to sell out almost as soon as it is restocked.


That said all those considering buying any F1 drive should read this thread
#25
alan79
Bought one of these lasted a month and then got read and write errors. Managed to get a RMA from ebuyer and there courier hasnt shown up again and again and.... avoid. I always wondered what people meant by the service at ebuyer but it is shocking if something goes wrong :(


I bought a 500gb version from ebuyer and it lasted 2 months before dying completely. Shame really because i had filled it to the brim. I had even backed up my photos on it (which i managed to retrieve luckily before it died)

With ebuyer, i just gave them a call on their expensive phone line and they sorted it out for me. Should have my replacement drive back today. Lets hope it doesnt die like the last one
#26
Diekund
I bought a 500gb version from ebuyer and it lasted 2 months before dying completely. Shame really because i had filled it to the brim. I had even backed up my photos on it (which i managed to retrieve luckily before it died)


Surely if you backed up your photos on it you'd already have an existing copy somewhere else?

I'm very careful with important stuff like digital photos and have a copy of them on my main drive, my external backup and an archive on DVD just to be sure. I might do some sort of off-site backup someday to protect against disaster such as fire, even if it just means keeping a back-up drive in work!
#27
PoisonJam
Surely if you backed up your photos on it you'd already have an existing copy somewhere else?

I'm very careful with important stuff like digital photos and have a copy of them on my main drive, my external backup and an archive on DVD just to be sure. I might do some sort of off-site backup someday to protect against disaster such as fire, even if it just means keeping a back-up drive in work!



well i moved them to that drive for security as i was sure the other drive was going to die. Think ill burn them all to dvd to be safe. Im a nightmare with dvds though as i have them everywhere :\
#28
Diekund
well i moved them to that drive for security as i was sure the other drive was going to die. Think ill burn them all to dvd to be safe. Im a nightmare with dvds though as i have them everywhere :\


Yeah, me too!

You might want to invest in a large CD/DVD wallet - that's what I use. Saves you having to make room for lots of DVDs in their covers or even invest in covers in the first place.

No media is safe unfortunately. Hard drives can fail at any time (as you've learned) and even two in the one PC could fail at once if there's a power surge, for example. CDs/DVDs can't really fail or be effected by a power surge but they can suffer from rotting over time or could get scratched.

It's just better to have at least two copies of important files on different media, or better yet in different locations as no common media is fire proof... :thumbsup:
#29
Just installed my F1 750GB and about to low level format it to test the surface.

I have less and less confidence in the F1s the more I read, so we shall see if it lives up to its name!
#30
BlackAle
Your case cooling is screwed, so the above figures mean little.


You know nothing about my case cooling or how or why I have it configured the way I do, so the above comment of yours, quoted in its entirety, adds precisely nothing to the debate.

The point of the figures is to show the temperatures relative to one another. More subjectively, touching the running drives, the Samsungs are only slightly warm to the touch, whereas the WD drive is noticeably warmer. The 300GB Seagates that were in the case before the Samsungs were near uncomfortable to touch for any length of time.

So, to sum up, my experience of these drives is that they do run noticeably cooler than other similar drives in the same situation/environment. And they're fast. Very fast.

For those who wish to question my experience, I've worked in IT (hardware, software, network support, programming etc. etc.) for twenty years, have a BSc(Hons) (from a decent university) in Computer Systems and have been building my own PCs since at least 1989, when the choice was between 20MHz 80286 and 16MHz 80386 CPUs and a 40MB or 80MB drive (though my first PC, an Apricot IBM clone, came with 512K of RAM and a choice of the standard 10MB HDD or the large 20MB HDD model, with GEM and Windows v1.02 thrown in too (this was in the days before Windows (at least MS Windows) could overlap!) :thumbsup:
#31
alien7
(Seagate is also the only manufacturer that gives a 5-year warranty on their drives)! :thumbsup:


Actually WD has five year warranties on some of their drives.
#32
EndlessWaves
Actually WD has five year warranties on some of their drives.


Indeedy, 5 years warranty on my new Velociraptor :-D

Not a bad deal for these F1's. :thumbsup:
#33
Well, I actually meant the cheaper Caviar Black and RE2 drives.
#34
jazid
Just installed my F1 750GB and about to low level format it to test the surface.

I have less and less confidence in the F1s the more I read, so we shall see if it lives up to its name!
Something on the actual circuit board on mine failed AFAIK, so that sort of test might not be that much help. Just thought i'd let you know...
#35
FIBRE+
Something on the actual circuit board on mine failed AFAIK, so that sort of test might not be that much help. Just thought i'd let you know...




Thanks for that. My 750gb F1 is vibrating like a Rampant Rabbit. Had to buy vibration damper from Maplins. Not sure whether this vibration will also cause some damage to the HD circuit board.

Well see. *gulp*

Wish I had bought another Seagate 7200.10 now (8mb cache but still as a statue).:cry:

Luckily I am only using this drive as a back destination stage (consolidate 2 PCs data) before the contents of the F1 is itself backed up.
#36
Seagate have just announced a 1.5TB drive, deliveries to be started next month.

http://www.behardware.com/news/lire/10-07-2008/#9820
#37
Well, the Citylink guy played double-chickenelli on me while I was in the shower.

Not once, but twice did I run into the hall soaking wet only to find a card in the door and a vomit yellow and puce van speed away down the road.

Called them up immediately, but obviously the driver couldn't be ****ed annoyed turning back and wanted to head back to Glenrothes as quick as possible.

That's my two turns used up, I tried, I failed.



The first hit in this google search sums my feelings up perfectly :thumbsup:
#38
Price fell down by £2

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