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Samsung XL2370HD LED backlit 1080p 23" monitor/tv with built in freeview £199.60 @ Amazon

£199.60 @ Amazon
This is the technical description from Amazon. * Product Description: Samsung SyncMaster XL2370HD - LCD display - TFT - 23" * Device Type: LCD display / TFT active matrix - LED backlight … Read More
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This is the technical description from Amazon.

* Product Description: Samsung SyncMaster XL2370HD - LCD display - TFT - 23"
* Device Type: LCD display / TFT active matrix - LED backlight
* Colour: Black gloss
* Dimensions (WxDxH): 57.1 cm x 19 cm x 43.3 cm
* Weight: 5.2 kg
* Diagonal Size: 23" - widescreen
* Dot Pitch / Pixel Pitch: 0.265 mm
* Max Resolution: 1920 x 1080
* Display Positions Adjustments: Tilt
* Colour Support: 16.7 million colours
* Response Time: 5 ms
* Image Brightness: 250 cd/m2
* Image Contrast Ratio: 5000000:1 (dynamic)
* Digital Video Standard: Digital Visual Interface (DVI), High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI)
* Audio Output: Speaker(s) - stereo - integrated
* Signal Input: HDMI, DVI-D, VGA
* Digital TV Tuner: DVB-C, DVB-T
* Microsoft Certification: Certified for Windows Vista
* Compliant Standards: CE, DDC-2B, ISO 13406-2
* Power Consumption Operational: 33 Watt
* Environmental Standards: ENERGY STAR Qualified
* Manufacturer Warranty: 2 years warranty

Intending to hook this up to my xbox bored of the input lag on the big tv downstairs and the poor resolution of my crt upstairs. £200 was my limit so think this is quite nice for the price i think.
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#1
Good price for LED...hot.


-Kev
#2
Kev`
Good price for LED...hot.


-Kev


Cheers for the vote.

I'd be interested in seeing a better deal for a comparable tv. Not even the same tv just a similar one.
#3
hey guys hoping you could help me. To use as a gaming monitor which would be better?

This monitor advertised or this one
#4
A7X-MARINE
hey guys hoping you could help me. To use as a gaming monitor which would be better?

This monitor advertised or this one


Samsung SyncMaster P2450H 24 - got 2ms respond - better for fast games and It's 24" :)
#5
A7X-MARINE
hey guys hoping you could help me. To use as a gaming monitor which would be better?

This monitor advertised or this one


Or this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-XL2370-LED-slim-Monitor-Glossy/dp/B002I8P0JI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293759430&sr=8-1

Also 2ms but, according to reviews, it's better colour handling compared to the P2450. But the P2450 is bigger. Choices, choices...

I'm trying to decide between the XL2370 and XL2370HD....
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Chocka
A7X-MARINE
hey guys hoping you could help me. To use as a gaming monitor which would be better?

This monitor advertised or this one

Or this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-XL2370-LED-slim-Monitor-Glossy/dp/B002I8P0JI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293759430&sr=8-1


Also 2ms but, according to reviews, it's better colour handling compared to the P2450. But the P2450 is bigger. Choices, choices...

I'm trying to decide between the XL2370 and XL2370HD....

I had the same choice to make since I wanted the extra inputs(scart for gaming on consoles) but didnt like the slower response times and wondered if the input lag would be different too. Im sure it's pretty comparable though and would have gone for the XL2370HD if not for the Dixons deal I found on the XL2370(£179.99 and £5 back with quidco delivered) I have a USB DVB-T dongle anyway so the Tuner wasnt important.

Anyway after you calibrate the colours and gamma(and you need to, I've posted my settings on the Overclockers forum) are pretty impressive for a TN panel(Ive owned a PVA panel before but not an IPS) the responsiveness(for a 60Hz 2ms panel its pretty fast from what I gather) and next to no input lag that I read about in reviews, along with colour accuracy sold it to me over the other screens around the same price mark.
#7
Metalartin - You and I have been doing our research in the same forum. I bet we went to a few others that were the same too!

I saw the Dixons/Currys/PCW offer for the XL2370 a few days ago but I was too late. I pulled the trigger on the XL2370HD after cosidering the various pros and cons. I can live with the 5ms given my current old monitor is 12ms!!
#8
Chocka
Metalartin - You and I have been doing our research in the same forum. I bet we went to a few others that were the same too!

I saw the Dixons/Currys/PCW offer for the XL2370 a few days ago but I was too late. I pulled the trigger on the XL2370HD after cosidering the various pros and cons. I can live with the 5ms given my current old monitor is 12ms!!


Yeah I'm thinking 5ms will be fine.

I wish I knew for certain that the input lag is the same between the monitor and the freeview version. If there is any increase in input lag i'll have to return the tv. As the avatar suggests I play a fair bit of Halo and I'm not so good so need every advantage I can muster!
#9
Metalartin


I had the same choice to make since I wanted the extra inputs(scart for gaming on consoles) but didnt like the slower response times and wondered if the input lag would be different too. Im sure it's pretty comparable though and would have gone for the XL2370HD if not for the Dixons deal I found on the XL2370(£179.99 and £5 back with quidco delivered) I have a USB DVB-T dongle anyway so the Tuner wasnt important.

Anyway after you calibrate the colours and gamma(and you need to, I've posted my settings on the Overclockers forum) are pretty impressive for a TN panel(Ive owned a PVA panel before but not an IPS) the responsiveness(for a 60Hz 2ms panel its pretty fast from what I gather) and next to no input lag that I read about in reviews, along with colour accuracy sold it to me over the other screens around the same price mark.


Thanks for the info, I definitely would have gone for the Dixons deal had I been in time. Too good to miss. Could you please link your thread in the Overclockers forum? I can't work out how to search.

Will I need to hook it up to a PC to set the colour properly? Or are you setting it through the monitor's own menu options?
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Ulysses3100

Thanks for the info, I definitely would have gone for the Dixons deal had I been in time. Too good to miss. Could you please link your thread in the Overclockers forum? I can't work out how to search.

Will I need to hook it up to a PC to set the colour properly? Or are you setting it through the monitor's own menu options?


I couldn't manage to get the software that comes with it to work on my PC anyway(MagicTune or whatever, has problems with certain GPU drivers), I think you get a bit more control if you use it and it's probably easier than using the touch sensitive buttons but nothing important.

I've used the same settings for HDMI(console) as DVI(PC) so you dont really need to hook it up to PC at all but if you are doing your own calibration by eye, you are best off hooking it up to a PC and using something like the Lagom LCD test as a reference.

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/gamma_calibration.php

My settings can be found here:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18218877

Feel free to use them, Gamma Mode 2 was recommended in one of the reviews I read and the RGB settings I used were taken straight from another reviewer who posted his calibrated settings, the rest I settled on myself using lagom.nl(apologies if you didn't need all that explaining but it might be helpful to someone all the same).




Edited By: Metalartin on Jan 02, 2011 18:46: Spelling
#11
Thanks again. I can't wait to get my hands on this.

Your extra info was very welcome and necessary. I'm a total novice when it comes to calibrating monitors for good colour accuracy etc.
#12
Arrived today, screen was faulty. Horrible patterned backlight bleed issue at the bottom of the screen. I've seen video and stills of this exact same model and this wasn't there. My TV's problem is clearly visible in photos/video so clearly a faulty unit rather than an inherent flaw.

Amazon are sending a replacement. And I'm sending the original back. Annoying.
#13
Crud!
What happended to the famous QC of Asian manufacturers!

Mine is supposed to arrive on Thurs.
I hope I have better luck...
#14
The screen arrived. I've checked for dead pixels (none found) and backlight bleed (nothing to complain about). Done a preliminary setup with the supplied VGA cable while I wait for my DVI cable to be delivered. At this stage everything looks OK.

The one complaint I do have is that it was packed with a euro plug. Luckily, like most geeks, I have loads of spare UK power leads around the house.

Thanks for the heads-up on the offer Ulysses3100.
#15
Chocka
The screen arrived. I've checked for dead pixels (none found) and backlight bleed (nothing to complain about). Done a preliminary setup with the supplied VGA cable while I wait for my DVI cable to be delivered. At this stage everything looks OK.

The one complaint I do have is that it was packed with a euro plug. Luckily, like most geeks, I have loads of spare UK power leads around the house.

Thanks for the heads-up on the offer Ulysses3100.


Happy to help, glad yours was ok. My replacement is supposedly at my local depot now and DHL picked up my faulty one yesterday.

It looks like amazon's customer service has been very good as usual.

I forgot to mention, mine also came without a UK plug. I emailed them and they said that I should buy a UK plug and they'd refund the cost. But obviously if you have one lying around that's better.
#16
Hi guys

I bought one from buy.com as Amazon were Out of Stock and set it up was quite impressed until today (1 day later) when it now does lot of random things..... 1. in pc mode turns itself off (black OR sometimes a white screen which require it to be switched off at the socket). 2. TV flashes white, black, blue + rgb colours).

Have requested a return via BUY.com but it seems I have to pay to return - surely that can't be right for a faulty product? (Samsung customer service said it was faulty and to return).

Anyone else had any other problems?

WJUK


Edited By: WackoJackoUK on Jan 08, 2011 18:43
#17
WackoJackoUK
Hi guys

I bought one from buy.com as Amazon were Out of Stock and set it up was quite impressed until today (1 day later) when it now does lot of random things..... 1. in pc mode turns itself off (black OR sometimes a white screen which require it to be switched off at the socket). 2. TV flashes white, black, blue + rgb colours).

Have requested a return via BUY.com but it seems I have to pay to return - surely that can't be right for a faulty product? (Samsung customer service said it was faulty and to return).

Anyone else had any other problems?

WJUK



On two occasions I turned my TV on in normal tv mode and the backlight failed to turn on at all. It was the only time that the terrible patternation of blacklight bleed didn't occur, sadly i couldn't see the picture as a result.

Sorry to say I've not ever used buy.com. But if you pay to return it and then they can't prove that there isn't a fault (which presumably would be impossible if you already have photographic/video proof of the fault in action) they would have to reimburse you the cost of delivery.

I'm not an expert in consumer law though.
#18
Jacko - That sounds like one messed up screen!

Whether you have to pay to return the item under warranty will depend on the seller or manufacturer. In the old days it meant you carry it to the local shop and they take care of the rest. With distance selling some state that you have to get the item to the repair site, and they pay to get the item back to you. I am assuming Buy.com is not local to you.

Most enlightened companies will pick the item up, fix it and then return it back to you.

Regarding your situation, and assuming you like the screen then my steps would be:

1) If Buy.com say I have to pay to return the item, I would reiterate this poor state of affairs (emphasis on 1 day failure), and see if they willing to pickup FOC. If not, I would never buy from them again.

2) Now, I would call Samsung and see what they say. If FOC pickup then I would let them do it.

3) If Samsung want me to pay then I would be tempted to return the item to Buy.com stating it is not fit for purpose. A full refund is what I would want. Then I would not buy Samsung either.

That's what I would do, but I'm no lawyer...
#19
I was wondering whilst reading this thread, you all seem to have been given non UK plugs/power adapters, has the XL2370HD officially been released in the UK?

I thought I'd add something for the HDMI setup since I've now used the THX optimizer on the Pirates of the Caribbean disk, I noticed there was something up with the black levels as soon as it came to that part, I'd missed a setting the first time I looked and assumed it was the same as DVI but theres a "HDMI Black Level" setting under the "Picture" menu if you scroll to the very bottom of the list.

Setting that to "normal" from the default "low" fixed it, nothing else needed changing other than raising the contrast a little to make the colours a little more vibrant. It's a good job since you only get one custom setting and that's universal too, I think I will keep the contrast at 44 for DVI too now as everything looks ok on the lagom test if not better with that setting.



Edited By: Metalartin on Jan 09, 2011 21:21: Corrections
#20
Metalartin
I was wondering whilst reading this thread, you all seem to have been given non UK plugs/power adapters, has the XL2370HD officially been released in the UK?



It has been released in the UK.
I would guess the reason we're getting Euro plugs is all about which distribution market they are sourced from, by Amazon, to decrease their overall costs. For UK buyers as long as it is sourced from somewhere in the EU it can be sold to the UK. Why pay UK taxes when another EU country's taxes are lower. Amazon save £50 and pass on £20 to you, for example.

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