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You can also get this from Currys and PC world as well, I have no idea what it's like but it is 1080 ready, and LED too.

The Sandstrom S32LDIB10 32" Full HD LED TV has everything you may need to make your switch-over to HD properly and enjoy high-resolution images in the comfort of your home.

Featuring Sandstrom Motion Adaptive picture engine technology which enhances and optimises your viewing experience and built-in acoustically enhanced speakers this HDTV will impressive you with...
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#1
Cheap for an LED TV... specs are not very overwhelming though
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#3
Nad_84
Cheap for an LED TV... specs are not very overwhelming though

As I'm sure you realise this is not an LED TV. It is still an LCD TV with a LED backlight.
#4
unknown brand id buy an onyoko lol lol
#5
onkyo lol lol lol
#6
col996s
Nad_84
Cheap for an LED TV... specs are not very overwhelming though
As I'm sure you realise this is not an LED TV. It is still an LCD TV with a LED backlight.

col, just for your info, there is no such thing as just an LED TV, have a look HERE
I haven't voted either way for a few reasons, mainly the fact you can buy cheaper branded LCD TV's, granted not LED backlit, but unless someone on here has experience of this set, as I couldnt find a review anywhere the unknown brand may put poeple off and may get a few cold, despite the massive saving offered by dixons over the price Pixmania have it HERE

Edited By: ben1979 on Oct 25, 2010 13:23: update
#7
col996s
Nad_84
Cheap for an LED TV... specs are not very overwhelming though


As I'm sure you realise this is not an LED TV. It is still an LCD TV with a LED backlight.


No, No and No. All LED TVs are LCD TVs. It is simply a change in technology for how it is backlit.
Plasmas generally give the best picture because each pixel can light up, or switch-off (but are prone to other problems) LCD TVs have traditionally been backlit by a single CCFL bulb. Which were not good at dimming (ie for night scenes). To overcome this problem 200+ LED lights were put behind the screen (Direct LED) to provide better contrast. With the need for thinner TVs some manufactures are putting LED on the edge of the screen. (edge LED).

But they are all still LCD TVs, and while improving picture quality (still second best to plasma) they have their own problems (Haloing, Viewing Angle etc)

In my opinion you are better off getting a good LCD (Sony, Phillips) than a cheap LED

For an extra hundred you could get this (with 5 year warranty, host of other features including ambilight)
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/philips-32pfl8404h-32-full-hd-lcd-t/783904




Edited By: abfmdf on Oct 25, 2010 13:43: .
#8
guv
Nad_84
Cheap for an LED TV... specs are not very overwhelming though


Whats underwhelming about it? Apart from a PC connection (Which Id use HDMI anyway), what do you think is missing?


1000:1 contrast ratio
another unknown brand from dixons retail group
#9
hi all, could someone point me in direction of the best deal on branded 32" lcd full hd tv

any help would be great, thank you :)
#10
No response time specs....hmm
#11
I saw this TV on display in PCWorld on Saturday. Physically it looks really nice but when it was side by side with other TV's, I noticed the image was quite jerky compared with the other TV's.

One to avoid in my opinion.
#12
I cant find anything on sandstrom , i think they are using clever marketing ! Choose an exspensive sounding scandinavian name and put it on a budget tv.
#13
got this last week when £299 http://www.coopelectricalshop.co.uk/products/ProductDetail.asp?ProductCode=SHA-LCD-LC32CT2E-BL


ste666
hi all, could someone point me in direction of the best deal on branded 32" lcd full hd tvany help would be great, thank you :)
#14
apparently samsung make the panels according to currys staff ?
#15
Nad_84
guv
Nad_84
Cheap for an LED TV... specs are not very overwhelming though


Whats underwhelming about it? Apart from a PC connection (Which Id use HDMI anyway), what do you think is missing?


1000:1 contrast ratio
another unknown brand from dixons retail group


1000:1 contrast ratio is nothing to worry about. Most companies quote dynamic contrast ratios when advertising LCD/LED TV's which always give over inflated ratios e.g) 25000:1 . The figures are inflated as each manufacturer has different ways of measuring this figure so its quite worthless really. 1000:1 STATIC contrast ratio is decent enough.

Edited By: ZedEx on Oct 25, 2010 15:29: Typo
#16
these are absolute GASH!
#17
ZedEx
Nad_84
guv
Nad_84
Cheap for an LED TV... specs are not very overwhelming though


Whats underwhelming about it? Apart from a PC connection (Which Id use HDMI anyway), what do you think is missing?


1000:1 contrast ratio
another unknown brand from dixons retail group


1000:1 contrast ratio is nothing to worry about. Most companies quote dynamic contrast ratios when advertising LCD/LED TV's which always give over inflated ratios e.g) 25000:1 . The figures are inflated as each manufacturer has different ways of measuring this figure so its quite worthless really. 1000:1 STATIC contrast ratio is decent enough.


I know, my Tosh has a 4000:1 contrast ration and 40,000:1 dynamic blah blah...
i'm just saying it doesn't wow me for how much it is and how little anyone knows about it.

And as for Currys staff saying it's a samsung panel... where has this info com from if there is nothing on the internet about the brand. It's another advent or logik or matsui, it's another return back to store
#18
matt2009
apparently samsung make the panels according to currys staff ?


I think Currys Staff are talking out of their proverbials as usual!

These TV's are made in China and do not use Samsung panels, they are probably Chei Mei Optronics (CMO) panels. The brand Sandstrom is an invented name and like Matsui is "owned" by the DSG group of companies ( Dixons/Currys/PCWorld/Pixmania)

Edited By: Leadbeter on Oct 25, 2010 17:07: Typos
#19
if you want the same tv but branded, you will have to pay double, so i think its a good deal for what you pay.

and yes the screen is made by samsung.

why buy this over an lcd?...40% more energy efficient, thats why.

personally i think its too early to buy led, wait till next christmas so you can buy the 2nd/3rd gen leds at a more reasonable price, mind you saying that oled will be out and you will probably want that so then you wait a little longer, then something better comes out then you wait some more and before you know it you dont end up buying a tv at all, haha!
#20
I think Sandstrom are Dixons own brand tvs. Probably made in Turkey like the rest of the cheap no name brands. You can tell because the OSD always looks the same.

I've had one of the 47" Wharfedale tvs (Also Turkey and it was) from Argos and if these go wrong you can not get the spare parts. That's why you get a 3yr warranty.

Had mine 8 months, when Freeview did the update the Digital tuner didn't work anymore. Started to get loud buzzes from the back and the PC input wouldn't sink properly.

(LED backlight does not buzz)

Was told you can't get spares parts by repair man, Argos wanted me to pick a new TV but I got a refund.
#21
What is your source for saying the screens are Samsung? Personally, I would pick a known tv that is HD ready over an unbranded full HD telly at the same price point.
#22
Getting tired of shops trying to sell **** brands at high prices. Tesco are trying it with their **** technika brand.
#23
Got one of these yesterday, i must say they are slim and well built.
only had xbox running on hdmi at 1080p and i cant fault it, i will fully test it
tonight.

anyway if it turns out to be crap i will just take it back. i have seen posts on avforums
about the sound being a bit weak, but i use seperate speakers anyway.

on first looks it does look like a samsung. but god knows who makes it.

i remember having a nikkai make tv years ago and inside was a sony tube.
#24
LOUGHBORO GUY
onkyo lol lol lol


Onkyo dont makes TV'sX)
#25
sandstrom is a dixons own brand originally sold in their scandanavian outlets, been in uk about 4 months. they might not have the best spec but they look good are built well and are yet to have one returned in store.
#26
personally id stay clear of this unbranded cr-p
#27
abfmdf
col996s
Nad_84
Cheap for an LED TV... specs are not very overwhelming though
As I'm sure you realise this is not an LED TV. It is still an LCD TV with a LED backlight.
No, No and No. All LED TVs are LCD TVs. It is simply a change in technology for how it is backlit.Plasmas generally give the best picture because each pixel can light up, or switch-off (but are prone to other problems) LCD TVs have traditionally been backlit by a single CCFL bulb. Which were not good at dimming (ie for night scenes). To overcome this problem 200+ LED lights were put behind the screen (Direct LED) to provide better contrast. With the need for thinner TVs some manufactures are putting LED on the edge of the screen. (edge LED). But they are all still LCD TVs, and while improving picture quality (still second best to plasma) they have their own problems (Haloing, Viewing Angle etc)In my opinion you are better off getting a good LCD (Sony, Phillips) than a cheap LEDFor an extra hundred you could get this (with 5 year warranty, host of other features including ambilight)http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/philips-32pfl8404h-32-full-hd-lcd-t/783904

Not all LED backlit TVs can perform localised dimming, even some that consist of a full matrix. Dymanic LEDs are required and based on the price I suspect that this TV contains neither a full rear-mounted matrix nor dynamic LEDs. In short, it offers NO advantages over CCFL in terms of picture enhancement.

LED TVs do exist whereby the screen consists of self illuminating LEDs, eschewing the need of a backlight. The screens are steadily gaining popularity amongst smartphones but are still yet to reach the mass market for larger screens.

By the way, you may find that generally, it requires more than a single CCFL lamp to illuminate LCD screens - the lighting distribution would be horrendous from a single CCFL.

I agree with Philips Ambilight being superb but we are comparing very high end equipment to this budget model. Not really a fair comparison, although the url you have provided is interesting but I have not seen that particular model in action.

Edited By: ElliottC on Oct 25, 2010 20:29: .
#28
There was also a 46" sandstrom for £499 and a 40" for 450.
the 46" was on display with a hd film running and was stunning.
if only i had the extra wonga.
#29
Nad_84

And as for Currys staff saying it's a samsung panel... where has this info com from if there is nothing on the internet about the brand. It's another advent or logik or matsui, it's another return back to store
I worked for a technical company many moons ago which involved creating technical guides for engineers. I was only doing data entry converting paper electronic blowups to digital format. I was amazed that (at that time) that most video recorders and tv's were 80-90% Panasonic or Matsushita(which is just the Japanese company name for Panasonic). Matsui was 100% Panasonic. Also remember that there are only a few large companies actually making lcd panels, http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-tvs/815307-list-lcd-panel-manufactures-panel-behind-brand.html
So it could well be a Samsung panel - but that dont mean the bits that drive are going to be much cop :-)
#30
I agree Elliott that this will be a poor LED and will offer no advantages over a normal LCD, thats what I was generally aiming at. (People will be buying it because its a new technology rather than being an improvement) I was trying to simplify that all current TVs people we see in the shops are really LCDs (not the OLEDs which I have never seen in real life)

I had to replace the CCFL lamp on my crappy Beko TV a while back, that's why I thought most TVs only have one (now I know it was just my cheap tv !)

I was maybe a bit unfair comparing with a Phillips TV, but equally people would be far better off going for this TV for the same price (Samsung TV, with USB connectivity, DNLA etc)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-LE32C530-32-inch-Widescreen-1080p/dp/B003EEM1M4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1288039096&sr=8-1
#31
Well I bought the 46" one recently for my aunt and the picture quality with HD content is better than my old 50" samsung plasma which is now 4 years old and I paid £800 for it. Unfortunately its not been set up yet [saw it on the shop floor with bluray playing through it] so can't give a better impression.

I remember the box said made in china but I guess it could be assembled there and screens elsewhere?
Oh and there is an adaptor to use the scart socket as its not full size on the tv, this is to keep the whole thing very slim I guess. It was single so you might need a multiadaptor for the scart if you got more than one scart device.

Edited By: twe on Oct 25, 2010 23:09: scart info
#32
Forgot to say that the 46" has a usb port for photos and some video, not sure how good it is as again not tried it yet. Maybe within the week though.

Can't believe the quick drop in price for them though. Originally £750 I think, then definitely £650 now £500 for the 46", anymore drops?

Edited By: twe on Oct 26, 2010 10:12: price drop
#33
They actually aren't particularly bad pieces of kit. They are fairly well built, and the picture quality isn't too bad either. They are aimed at more money-concious buyers.

Sandstrøm is an own-brand of Dixons store group, along with Goji, Advent, Swordfish and Logik.
#34
abfmdf
I agree Elliott that this will be a poor LED and will offer no advantages over a normal LCD, thats what I was generally aiming at. (People will be buying it because its a new technology rather than being an improvement) I was trying to simplify that all current TVs people we see in the shops are really LCDs (not the OLEDs which I have never seen in real life)I had to replace the CCFL lamp on my crappy Beko TV a while back, that's why I thought most TVs only have one (now I know it was just my cheap tv !)I was maybe a bit unfair comparing with a Phillips TV, but equally people would be far better off going for this TV for the same price (Samsung TV, with USB connectivity, DNLA etc)http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-LE32C530-32-inch-Widescreen-1080p/dp/B003EEM1M4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1288039096&sr=8-1

Quite possibly the Samsung model you linked to would be superior. The sooner manufacturers stop imposing a price premium on LED lighting, the better - after all, we don't pay an arm and a leg for LED diodes from Maplin! LED lighting is so much cheaper than CCFL to manufacture yet even budget models with LEDs rival models with CCFLs from more established manufacturers, in terms of pricing. It can be argued that there are energy saving costs but this averages out to several pounds a year and also for the image conscious the all important thinness of the screen may supersede other features.

As mentioned earlier, this TV will not use a full matrix of dynamic LEDs and offers little over the Samsung you have mentioned. You have made a good point about replacing the CCFL lamp though. LEDs have longer lifespans than CCFL lighting.

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