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SANDSTROM STP113 Wireless Touchpad £4.99 @ Currys/PC World

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Get the most from your computer using the Sandstrøm STP113 Wireless Touchpad. Designed to work seamlessly with Windows 8, the Touchpad’s intuitive interface gives you perfect control using touch gestures alone.

Simply connect the wireless adapter to a free USB port on your computer and you'll be tapping, swiping and pinching your favourite programs in an instant.

The STP113 also supports Windows multitouch gestures so you can move quickly between programs and pages.It's completely wireless too, giving you freedom of movement – without trailing cables behind you. The lithium-polymer battery is easily recharged via the supplied USB cable – so you can carry on using the STP113 even when it's charging.

An exciting and instinctive new way to control your Windows 8 PC, the Sandstrøm STP113 Wireless Touchpad could revolutionise the way you work

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robo989
see if it makes windows 8 useable!!!

It always has been. I think you will find its the people using it are the problem. :p
13 Likes
I recently did a review that's under 2mins for this touchpad on my technology YouTube channel if you're interested in picking one up http://youtu.be/pOPNtY6wTl4
9 Likes
Can't see any mention of screen size or resolution (and looks a bit dark?)

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Edited By: oUkTuRkEyIII on Jul 16, 2014 07:59
1 Like #2
Giveaway price includes free delivery. Neat piece of kit - just ordered mine. Have some heat.
2 Likes #3
Worth giving a go for a fiver, see if it makes windows 8 useable!!!
1 Like #4
Got one last time it was on offer at this price. Quick delivery and a decent bit of kit for the price.
16 Likes #5
robo989
see if it makes windows 8 useable!!!

It always has been. I think you will find its the people using it are the problem. :p
2 Likes #6
Got one last time up here.

Had to go back.
tried on desktop and laptop running Win8.1 and Win 7 respectively.

Intermittent response. Was far easier to use either a mouse or the laptops touch-pad.

Really disappointed.

Not sure if I just got unlucky with the unit I ordered or if they are all like that. The ongoing discount suggests there have been many returns
Anyways, I won't be re-ordering.

Edited By: meggie_dude on Jul 16, 2014 09:15
1 Like #7
Surely worth a fiver! - See how it compares to my Logitech T650 at 10x the price! Have some heat!
3 Likes #8
powerbrick
robo989
see if it makes windows 8 useable!!!

It always has been. I think you will find its the people using it are the problem. :p
I think you will find the concensus amongst everyone who knows anything about anything is that it is a gold plated turd on a technical level :) ...even if it does have a juicy fruity exterior.
9 Likes #9
Can't see any mention of screen size or resolution (and looks a bit dark?)
#10
robo989

I think you will find the consensus amongst everyone who knows anything about anything is that it is a gold plated turd on a technical level :)

With cast iron proof like that, how cold I disagree. :p
3 Likes #11
robo989
powerbrick
robo989
see if it makes windows 8 useable!!!

It always has been. I think you will find its the people using it are the problem. :p
I think you will find the concensus amongst everyone who knows anything about anything is that it is a gold plated turd on a technical level :) ...even if it does have a juicy fruity exterior.

Funny that..... - I've got a generally well-rounded knowledge of things, so I must come into the category of the "everyone who knows anything about anything"..... My view, and the others I work with, is that Windows 8.0 / 8.1 is one of the most stable Microsoft Desktop OS's we've seen in a long time. Sure, it introduced some changes in the way we were used to using Windows, but nothing that couldn't be learned and adopted to very quickly.

All the WIN 8 / 8.1 hate that we see on here simply mirrors the comments that come out every time Microsoft launch a new Desktop OS. And as to "juicy fruity exterior"..... Well I'd rather have Win 8 than a half-eaten McIntosh Red any day!
4 Likes #12
robo989
powerbrick
robo989
see if it makes windows 8 useable!!!

It always has been. I think you will find its the people using it are the problem. :p
I think you will find the concensus amongst everyone who knows anything about anything is that it is a gold plated turd on a technical level :) ...even if it does have a juicy fruity exterior.

Man, I think you've got it backwards. I would say it's generally accepted that the underlying systems of the OS are top notch (as far as Microsoft Windows goes). It is faster, more stable and more secure than Windows 7. It's the User Interface that people have the issue with, and by-and-large I would agree with them. I hate almost everything about it, except the Start Screen. If they take that away I'll be somewhat annoyed.
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Think I'm being misunderstood.
I like windows 7 because if you want to do something, you can do it, without needing to think it's just second nature.
If you want to do something in windows 8 you have to think, there's a ridiculous UI in the way of the bare OS.
I'm not disputing it's stability, that's been taken to a fine art in comparison to pre windows 7 OS.
The point is, it's just rubbish - no need for a technical explanation, it targets a different market to that of windows 7, hence the complaints.

Think everyone agrees with this, and if you don't it's becuase you're misunderstanding my sentiment or I'm not explaining it very well. It's just horrible to use and distanced from the technical goings on.

Style over substance, and not even slick style either.
There's nothing groundbreaking in the OS on a usability level, in the vein of say the revolution of tabbed web browsers.
I know the I/O code has been tweaked and underneath there are some improvements and tightening up but these tweaks are overshadowed by what is just an awful UI that isn't streamlined, logical or whatever they call it these days.

I'm not a child, I don't want to be treated like one, as Windows 8/8.1 does.

Edited By: robo989 on Jul 16, 2014 12:04
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robo989
Think I'm being misunderstood.

I think you were. I think the problem was your 'gold plated turd on a technical level' description, when it should actually have been a 'turd covered gold ingot on a technical level'. X)

robo989
I'm not a child, I don't want to be treated like one, as Windows 8/8.1 does.

Not sure about this though. Surely making the interface more difficult, and hiding invisible controls in the corners is treating you more like an adult. they don't let kids on the 'Krypton Factor' you know.
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PurplePerson
robo989
Think I'm being misunderstood.

I think you were. I think the problem was your 'gold plated turd on a technical level' description, when it should actually have been a 'turd covered gold ingot on a technical level'. X)

robo989
I'm not a child, I don't want to be treated like one, as Windows 8/8.1 does.

Not sure about this though. Surely making the interface more difficult, and hiding invisible controls in the corners is treating you more like an adult. they don't let kids on the 'Krypton Factor' you know.

pmsl :)
That's a fantastic analogy there with the krypton factor, brain isn't as sharp as it was as a child so hiding things away in neon little puzzles of plasticy juicyness isn't my idea of a good time, I need bland, basic, informative so brain can digest it :)


Kinda a contradiction, true.

EDIT - Got me thinking though, that guy who presented the krypton factor...he was about as bland a presenter as is possible. Yet all those bright colours on the show (for the 80s...)...hmmm.

Edited By: robo989 on Jul 16, 2014 12:20
1 Like #16
robo989
PurplePerson
robo989
Think I'm being misunderstood.

I think you were. I think the problem was your 'gold plated turd on a technical level' description, when it should actually have been a 'turd covered gold ingot on a technical level'. X)

robo989
I'm not a child, I don't want to be treated like one, as Windows 8/8.1 does.

Not sure about this though. Surely making the interface more difficult, and hiding invisible controls in the corners is treating you more like an adult. they don't let kids on the 'Krypton Factor' you know.

pmsl :)
That's a fantastic analogy there with the krypton factor, brain isn't as sharp as it was as a child so hiding things away in neon little puzzles of plasticy juicyness isn't my idea of a good time, I need bland, basic, informative so brain can digest it :)


Kinda a contradiction, true.

You could just think of Windows 8 as a treatment for delaying the onset of dementia. Hell I might keep a Windows 8 box hanging around just for that purpose myself. :D
13 Likes #17
I recently did a review that's under 2mins for this touchpad on my technology YouTube channel if you're interested in picking one up http://youtu.be/pOPNtY6wTl4
1 Like #18
Problem Child
I recently did a review that's under 2mins for this touchpad on my technology YouTube channel if you're interested in picking one up http://youtu.be/pOPNtY6wTl4

Good review, why is your keyboard all multicoloured?
1 Like #19
Problem Child
I recently did a review that's under 2mins for this touchpad on my technology YouTube channel if you're interested in picking one up http://youtu.be/pOPNtY6wTl4

Nice review. Very concise and informative. Cheers
1 Like #20
fishmaster
Good review, why is your keyboard all multicoloured?

Thanks, they're editing shortcuts just stickers that go ontop of keyboard keys to make using shortcuts easier.

Jimbo123
Nice review. Very concise and informative. Cheers

thanks mate appreciate it, used to do them a while back but just getting back into making them. I buy a lot of stuff off hotukdeals so no doubt I'll review something thats on here again soon!

Edited By: Problem Child on Jul 16, 2014 13:14
#21
kennethsross
robo989
powerbrick
robo989
see if it makes windows 8 useable!!!

It always has been. I think you will find its the people using it are the problem. :p
I think you will find the concensus amongst everyone who knows anything about anything is that it is a gold plated turd on a technical level :) ...even if it does have a juicy fruity exterior.

Funny that..... - I've got a generally well-rounded knowledge of things, so I must come into the category of the "everyone who knows anything about anything"..... My view, and the others I work with, is that Windows 8.0 / 8.1 is one of the most stable Microsoft Desktop OS's we've seen in a long time. Sure, it introduced some changes in the way we were used to using Windows, but nothing that couldn't be learned and adopted to very quickly.

All the WIN 8 / 8.1 hate that we see on here simply mirrors the comments that come out every time Microsoft launch a new Desktop OS. And as to "juicy fruity exterior"..... Well I'd rather have Win 8 than a half-eaten McIntosh Red any day!

Exactly! And Vista was the best of the lot!
#22
Ummed and ahhed at 4.99 then forgot, then ummed and ahhhed at 6.99 and forgot so this time just bought one.
#23
Gotta beat the price of Apple's £60 version!
*cough* Which I have, and love...
#24
I can imagine these being about as much use as a corned beef slipper - IMHO :|
#25
ta,
#26
Anyone know anything about Mac support?
#27
Ordered one for keeping next to my bed so when i'm in bed i can pause play etc without having to use my mobile.
Cheers
#28
Would this work on Windows7? They seem to be fairly keen on talking about 8.
2 Likes #29
one2omg
I can imagine these being about as much use as a corned beef slipper - IMHO :|

Perhaps you are unaware of what this does? It opens up a whole range of ways of interacting with Windows 8 on a desktop PC that a mouse could never achieve.

But there again, it may simply be that you lack imagination..........
3 Likes #30
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#31
Darude - Sandstorm
#32
Nimbuskirk
Would this work on Windows7? They seem to be fairly keen on talking about 8.

It'll work fine with Windows 7, just as you would expect.
#33
Linked through to site, not available for home delivery!. None in any of the stores within 30 miles!. Think its gone off the boil!
#34
Problem Child
I recently did a review that's under 2mins for this touchpad on my technology YouTube channel if you're interested in picking one up http://youtu.be/pOPNtY6wTl4

Good concise review. You got a like from me.
3 Likes #35
robo989
I'm not a child, I don't want to be treated like one, as Windows 8/8.1 does.

It's a general purpose OS - will it fit your requirements? Yes, if you're willing to configure it to be so. In actuality MS have stuffed a load in for 'adults' - e.g. a billion new keyboard short-cuts for everything, the fab Win+X menu, proper dual monitor taskbar support (which is configurable too), searching is improved (most folk don't even know Win+Q brings up a small search bar that searches the web as well as the start menu, that doesn't cover the screen and that the web searches even respect your web browser choice - all without leaving the keyboard) etc. They actually did a stack of stuff for the desktop which is largely ignored because of the start screen (something I might see 0.0001% of the time as a desktop user - exactly as I did with win 7). To me the start menu was a kludge of horrible mouse navigation that could be avoided with the instant search - and hence the new one (if I don't use Win-Q) is much the same. In 8.1.1 you can set the start screen to use your desktop background if the transition worries you. I know i'm wasting my time of course, but the kicker for desktops from MS' focus on tablet was efficiency - and this is where your comment about the 'technical level' was phrased badly since (as others will point out) the core OS is very quick, more secure and full of a stack of nice incremental improvements (as per 7 was to Vista in fact). For reference, and perspective, I'm a developer and I'm pretty sure most of me is grown up these-days :) Except the impulse buying part of course..
Personally I tell people there isn't really anything to fear in 8.x.x since really MS have tweaked it based on feedback in 8.1.1 and 8.1.2 looks to be more of the same. If your biggest problems are Modern UI apps and the Start Screen both can be easily avoided or hidden entirely with the cost of a small amount of effort. Whether you do so is subjective. Outside of that you'll struggle to objectively convince anyone there's anything 'worse' than 7, even an old keyboard junkie like me ;)


Edited By: dangel on Jul 16, 2014 15:26
#36
Only thing I hate about Win 8 is the metro view and the fact that they moved some things around a little.
#37
powerbrick
robo989
see if it makes windows 8 useable!!!

It always has been. I think you will find its the people using it are the problem. :p

Windows 8 is sh*t, don't fool yourself
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dangel
robo989
I'm not a child, I don't want to be treated like one, as Windows 8/8.1 does.

It's a general purpose OS - will it fit your requirements? Yes, if you're willing to configure it to be so. In actuality MS have stuffed a load in for 'adults' - e.g. a billion new keyboard short-cuts for everything, the fab Win+X menu, proper dual monitor taskbar support (which is configurable too), searching is improved (most folk don't even know Win+Q brings up a small search bar that searches the web as well as the start menu, that doesn't cover the screen and that the web searches even respect your web browser choice - all without leaving the keyboard) etc. They actually did a stack of stuff for the desktop which is largely ignored because of the start screen (something I might see 0.0001% of the time as a desktop user - exactly as I did with win 7). To me the start menu was a kludge of horrible mouse navigation that could be avoided with the instant search - and hence the new one (if I don't use Win-Q) is much the same. In 8.1.1 you can set the start screen to use your desktop background if the transition worries you. I know i'm wasting my time of course, but the kicker for desktops from MS' focus on tablet was efficiency - and this is where your comment about the 'technical level' was phrased badly since (as others will point out) the core OS is very quick, more secure and full of a stack of nice incremental improvements (as per 7 was to Vista in fact). For reference, and perspective, I'm a developer and I'm pretty sure most of me is grown up these-days :) Except the impulse buying part of course..
Personally I tell people there isn't really anything to fear in 8.x.x since really MS have tweaked it based on feedback in 8.1.1 and 8.1.2 looks to be more of the same. If your biggest problems are Modern UI apps and the Start Screen both can be easily avoided or hidden entirely with the cost of a small amount of effort. Whether you do so is subjective. Outside of that you'll struggle to objectively convince anyone there's anything 'worse' than 7, even an old keyboard junkie like me ;)


Good response, they all sound like useful things I wasn't aware of.
There's plenty of counter stuff though

"secure boot" nonsense, makes backing up and restoring a nightmare.
Sloppy non accurate measurment of tranfer speeds, 8.1 didn't correct that for me at least.
It's been a while so those are the only 2 things I can think of that I specifically thought "Why!?". But the whole thing just generally had me feeling like that.

Point is it's changed direction in terms of who it's actually for, it certainly is for "everyone", but it's more for "everyone" in the classic marketing sense like a "family" film is for everyone. No, it's for children and dumbed down but can be watched by all.

There's no right/wrong I suppose, and I'd accept I'm more of a power user, which is exactly why it's a shame that you point out that shortcut stuff and searching the web, because it's exactly the kind of good feature I like, it just comes with too much of an overall compromise against convention.

It's hard to put into words and can't stand Apple, but did watch a few mins of the WWDC or whatever it's called and what is being proposed for the next version of OSX is exactly where I hoped windows would be going in, useful extra additions that don't interfere with the legacy.

That's the problem Microsoft just can't help but mess around with a working product. They don't know how to fine tune and cut the fat.

I'll admit if I watched the whole of the Apple conference I'd have puked up, that's something you don't get with MS, sleazey greased up marketing slimeballs, except for don mattrick or however you spell his name who recently left.
1 Like #39
Taz1529
powerbrick
robo989
see if it makes windows 8 useable!!!

It always has been. I think you will find its the people using it are the problem. :p

Windows 8 is sh*t, don't fool yourself

What an insightful response, you are obviously an expert, like one of those 'Know How' chaps :p
1 Like #40
robo989
Good response, they all sound like useful things I wasn't aware of.
There's plenty of counter stuff though

"secure boot" nonsense, makes backing up and restoring a nightmare.

Not really, it's there for a good reason - ignore knee jerk reactions from linux folk it's just trying to close an attack vector on Windows. Besides, there's no compulsion to use it. I don't.

robo989
Sloppy non accurate measurment of tranfer speeds, 8.1 didn't correct that for me at least.
It's been a while so those are the only 2 things I can think of that I specifically thought "Why!?". But the whole thing just generally had me feeling like that.

It's a difficult thing - there's actually a good blog post on MSDN about this explaining it better (transfers) - btw check out Directory Opus sometime. I think you're actually struggling with 'different' and that's perfectly reasonable. MS have to change - I admire them for trying in fact and (as an engineer) I face the same struggle - Users don't like change (whether for better or worse). It forces two responses 'arggh terrible can't be bothered' or (rarer) 'I guess I need to learn something new'. I'm not proposing that every change is for the better here mind, in fact i'm happy to say I don't care for much of it mostly because it's obviously transitional or not yet complete (control panel items being in two 'worlds' for example).

robo989
Point is it's changed direction in terms of who it's actually for, it certainly is for "everyone", but it's more for "everyone" in the classic marketing sense like a "family" film is for everyone. No, it's for children and dumbed down but can be watched by all.

Dumbed down how though? I pointed out it actually has more in it for power users earlier - spreading a menu across a screen doesn't change that, particularly as it's effectively optional. Ease of use is better (that's not being dumb though) in some areas - watch someone in their 60's use Win7's explorer - with no visual cues for well.. anything. 8 put in a ribbon (and people hate that too) but it has all the configuration and functionality in front of you - much better. You don't even need to know the super-secret hidden menu is only shown in 7 with the ALT key (I mean, WTF!).

robo989
There's no right/wrong I suppose, and I'd accept I'm more of a power user, which is exactly why it's a shame that you point out that shortcut stuff and searching the web, because it's exactly the kind of good feature I like, it just comes with too much of an overall compromise against convention.

Respectfully, it doesn't sound like you really know what's in there - have you actively used 8.1.1 for a period of time?

robo989
It's hard to put into words and can't stand Apple, but did watch a few mins of the WWDC or whatever it's called and what is being proposed for the next version of OSX is exactly where I hoped windows would be going in, useful extra additions that don't interfere with the legacy.

Unfortunately legacy is the very problem - Windows is mired in it and you'll see that the first time you plugin a 4k display for example.

robo989
That's the problem Microsoft just can't help but mess around with a working product. They don't know how to fine tune and cut the fat.

MS changes things - people scream.
MS doesn't change things - people scream.
It's an impossible position. I will say though that MS is doing right by themselves - Windows must evolve. If they can pull off one OS on all devices to the degree they're working toward it could be incredible. Hell of a task though, we'll see.

Think of this. Vista was necessary. Vista was also the basis of all we love in 7. It was also objectively much much worse to live with that 8 (even in vanilla state) - completely unstable for 1.5 years due to the new driver model (hey, thanks nvidia) and hateful on slow laptop drives due to the overuse of the disk. 8 is lighter than 7, quicker, more secure, has stacks of useful improvements and a contentious part to it's UI you can ignore safely for now. Your choice though - wait for 9 if you wish (where the start screen is a menu by all accounts).

Cheers tho - really not trying to 'win' anything here and just enjoying sharing my views is all :)



Edited By: dangel on Jul 16, 2014 16:19

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