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Save £100's - Yorkshire Water Plumbing and Drainage Cover HomeServe - £23.88 For a Year

£23.88 @ Yorkshire Water
Basically we are doing this. For £23.88 for the year, you can claim blocked drains and they will unblock/plumb etc. For the first 14 days you aren't covered to stop people claiming straight away, but … Read More
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8y, 3m agoFound 8 years, 3 months ago
Basically we are doing this. For £23.88 for the year, you can claim blocked drains and they will unblock/plumb etc. For the first 14 days you aren't covered to stop people claiming straight away, but then you have 11.5 months of cover and think about it, it costs £50 just to get a plumber out and then £100's to unblock drains etc. but this is £23.88 and you can claim after 14 days and get your drains unblocked.
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#1
http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300V/20071031/Drain-Cover-Autumn-Leaves-503593.jpg

Seems expensive for a drain cover but what do I know?
#2
if you have ever rodded chit because of a blocked drain, £23.88 is a hot deal.

considering this deal myself as ive had to do the above twice.
#3
most people are not aware that if your property was built before the 2nd world war the drains are covered by the water authority anyway
#4
Some important exceptions

e.g. Underground water supply pipe outside your home

Though the water board may repair this at their discretion (depends on region)
#5
The definition of "drain" is what I was looking for, and couldn't find it!

The law on Drains & sewers is VERY complicated, (even who ones what!) and in this case, they seem to be avoiding the use of anything other than the word "drain"

My "drains" actually only go a short way, (not the pipes above ground, they are all either waste pipes or Soil pipes!) actually only a few yards is "drain". After that they become SEWERS, private sewers, as many commonly do, owned and the responsibility of all my neighbours before they go to the PUBLIC sewer which is owned by the Water Authority - in which case I wouldn't be getting very much cover - the short bit near the house, where the pipes are at their most easy place to get to!

Not even a copy of the terms & conditions are on the site.

It would need a LOT of investigating as to whether this is worth having at all, even more so when it goes up the 2nd year!
#6
sehlfc;4397752
most people are not aware that if your property was built before the 2nd world war the drains are covered by the water authority anyway


Very true, most people, INCLUDING you are not aware! :-(

It is MUCH more complicated than that, but in short, the DRAINS outside your house most likely ARE your responisbility, it is where they become sewers they may well be adopted by the W.A. after the Public Health Act 1936 came into effect. (some time in 1937 if I rember correctly) The point where that happens can be a bit of a surprise to some - ie outside in the street, or even HUNDREDS of yards away! Modern houses are a bit more clear to tie down, but odds on it will not be too close, and much of the time in housing estates, groups of houses are drained by private sewers,. maybe 2, 4 6, or 8 or more at a time, then it eventually joins the public sewer.

This cover is for DRAINS, it is very careful not to use the word SEWER!

I won't even begin to go into the complexities - I have forgotten more of the detail than I can remember, and have no particular desire to fully re-absorb it all, least of all here!
#7
not so Yorkshire, water
#8
Drains is ur back drains leading to where is shared with ur neighbours isnt it?

BTW your main WSP is never usually included, although its fairly cheap to get it taken care off (not in comparison to this price!)...

I wouldnt go for it just because of the company so I'm going to vote :thumbsup:
#9
myaser88;4398407
not so Yorkshire, water


In your dreams!

I understand Yorkshire has been part of a pilot where the Government is planning to move ownership of all the undergrounds stuff tot eh Water Authority.
But it hasn't taken place yet - and if some of the witterings are not sorted, it might never happen - after all, it is going to cost the Water Authorities money, and in a private industry, someone other than the shareholders are going to have to pay!

http://www.yorkshirewater.com/your-water-services/waste-water/public-and-private-sewers.aspx

Actually that page clarifies some of the issues about drains & sewers too

Either way, it won't have any effect with DRAINS, only sewers!
#10
Beware i did this with Anglian Water.
Although a great deal, you will get very peeeed off with the constant stream of phone calls from homeserve, trying to sell you even more products.
Let's just say they are using it as a foot in your door to sell you more.

Only been with them 3 months and already had 8-10 calls to upgrade to all plumbing, then electrical appliances etc. etc.

If you don't mind this or are prepared to get them to remove you from the calling list, it should be o.k.
#11
The operative date for the 1936 Public Health Act was October 1937. Sewers built before that date are the responsibility of the Sewerage undertaker. Who ever you pay the the sewerage element of your water bill. After that date it is the responsibility of those householders that are served by the sewer up stream of the blockage or defect. However if it is a drain that is only taking the sewage from your house then the householder is responsible.

My experience of visiting people with this type of cover is that Water companies contractor will unblock any obstruction on the householders property but as soon as it appears to be a sewer. That is taking the drainage of another house they say "it's not our job".

The proposed change in the law which has been promised for a number of years and the last date I saw was 2012. Would make laterals the responsibility of the sewerage undertaker.

Therefore householders would still be responsible for the length of drain before it joins with a neighbours drain or if it does not drain another house until it reaches the sewer in the road.

With regard to water supply. You are responsible from the Water companies stop valve usually on the pavement outside your house. If the pipe is an old lead pipe then it could start to leak. If it is new or been replaced with blue alhathene then it is unlikely to to give you any problems other than at joints.

After that it's just a question as with any insurance of working out how much it costs against the likelihood of you being able to make a valid claim.
#12
Chelmer;4402439
My experience of visiting people with this type of cover is that Water companies contractor will unblock any obstruction on the householders property but as soon as it appears to be a sewer. That is taking the drainage of another house they say "it's not our job".


Well that's the bit that is more likely to BE their job, although of course not with more modern houses.

In the past many local Authorities did simple drain clearing on the rates, (and a lot of hassles it saved too!) but I am not sure that many do now (lets be honest, even getting a bin emptied in some LAs is a challenge these days!)- I was rather under the impression that drain clearing was avoided by most W.A.s like the plague, and most adopt an attitude of "it's your problem" until you can prove it is a defect in their part of the system. That said, as it isn't a national system, it does vary a lot, and even from one depot to another!

It gets very difficult when Private Sewers need any amount of work, and the administrative headache costs local authorities money to sort out, (even for something as simple as a new manhole cover!) as well as coming as a HUGE shock in some cases to householders. The proposed arrangements will undoubtedly sort some of those problems out, but the Water Companies' shareholders are going to be wanting some commitment from Government to PAY for it all, and with Water Regulators preventing them putting bills up, they are going to expect to be allowed to make a significant increase in water costs to cover it otherwise.
#13
This deal is like most insurance policies. You only find out the problems when you try to make a claim.

It's a long time since local councils unblocked sewers. When Water Authorities were set up some councils continued to do it on an agency basis. Then it was taken in house by the water authorities and then out sourced to term contractors.

But as you say they are very reluctant to a length of pipe is their responsibility.

I did work briefly for a local authority of a new town where they had endless problems with private sewers and they did as part of the investigation clear blockages effective a "free" service . But if there was a defect or a recurring blockage they did serve notices and recover costs.

Why it has taken so long to get the government to act is as you say that ofwat will not allow bills to rise. It can only be a guess as to the cost of maintaining the 1000's of Km of extra sewers. And small drain companies would go out of business as the WA would give the work to their term contractor.

I recently visited someone who had an insurance from Severn Trent and it covered just the water supply pipe and not the drains. It was £17 a year. They had a long front garden and the pipe was still lead so it seemed like a reasonable amount compared to the cost if the pipe did start to leak
#14
Chelmer;4412507
It's a long time since local councils unblocked sewers.


I didn't say otherwise!

I was referring to DRAINS... see, even you are mixing them two up, and you do know the score! :whistling:

Illustrates what a pain it all is. What worries me, it might become a bigger pain if the proposed change-over is as badly reasoned out as some recent legislation. Maybe they will slip it in as part of anti-terrorism proposals! :w00t:
#15
Well I am not old enough to remember when councils cleared drains for householders it must be before 1978 when I was first discovered the world of drains and sewers
#16
Chelmer;4413652
Well I am not old enough to remember when councils cleared drains for householders it must be before 1978 when I was first discovered the world of drains and sewers


Oh it's a lot later than that for some... there might even be some that still do, although I can't imagine many now! Certainly 10/12 years ago I knew a couple that still did.

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