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Seagate Expansion 5TB Desktop Hard Drive £105.20 @ Amazon

£105.20 @ Amazon
USB 3.0 Desktop 3.5 inch HD 2 year warranty.
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1 Like #1
In before Seagate reliability comment.

Note: Anyone who has accurate information knows that it was mainly the 3TB drives that gave Seagate a bad reputation. All other capacitie drives should be as reliable as any other brand.
2 Likes #2
Yep, and I had two of those fail on me.
Seagate can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned
#3
I run five of these in my server and they work flawlessly and never had any problems. I understand people have had issues but in my case they have been amazing for the price.
1 Like #4
dang it! bought last week for 119.99 at currys
use it with the xbox one..
#5
I had a 3TB one fail on me last week :(
1 Like #6
I've had a Corsair SSD and a Crucial SSD fail on me this year.

My trusty 1.5TB Seagate Barracuda from 2010 is still going strong.
4 Likes #7
These are shingled magnetic recording drives (SMR) and has all sorts of problems unless you use them for just archiving.
2 Likes #8
iserlohn
These are shingled magnetic recording drives (SMR) and has all sorts of problems unless you use them for just archiving.

Are you sure it uses SMR?
I would have thought the 'Backup Plus' drives would be the ones with SMR as they'd logically have 'Archive' drives in them.

If it's SMR read speeds will be fine, write speeds after a certain point will fall off a cliff. Will not be a problem as it's an external drive unless you're regularly copying over 50GB of data to the drive in one session.

A good explanation of how SMR works if anyone is interested
1 Like #9
Alternatively get a 4TB Seagate Backup Plus drive from Scan for £86 (Free delivery via Hexus forum membership). The 4TB one is definitely not a shingled/SMR drive.

Edited By: SUMMONER on Oct 21, 2016 10:36: ..
#10
I have the 6tb backup plus think I paid £129 at Argos. I was a bit wary because it's a Seagate and also it uses SMR technology. I have used this drive for a few months and have not had any problems however it is slow to write to and it runs a bit hotter than my other drives 43c at the moment my other external drives are in the high 20s. I am pleased with it so far fingers crossed.
3 Likes #11
K1LLER HORNET
iserlohn
These are shingled magnetic recording drives (SMR) and has all sorts of problems unless you use them for just archiving.
Are you sure it uses SMR?
I would have thought the 'Backup Plus' drives would be the ones with SMR as they'd logically have 'Archive' drives in them.
If it's SMR read speeds will be fine, write speeds after a certain point will fall off a cliff. Will not be a problem as it's an external drive unless you're regularly copying over 50GB of data to the drive in one session.A good explanation of how SMR works if anyone is interested

Yes. Both model use the same drive model. The difference is in the warranty and software included (as well as the design of the housing).

I did some research on this and in the end got the Toshiba 5TB Canvio from BT Shop for less than this deal.
#12
johngrundy2
I have the 6tb backup plus think I paid £129 at Argos. I was a bit wary because it's a Seagate and also it uses SMR technology. I have used this drive for a few months and have not had any problems however it is slow to write to and it runs a bit hotter than my other drives 43c at the moment my other external drives are in the high 20s. I am pleased with it so far fingers crossed.

I've got an internal Archive/SMR drive and it runs at a consistent 40°C. Must be the normal temperature for them. A few degrees hotter than the WD Red's I've got.
#13
Spinning rust is going to be around for many years while it continues to be 10 times cheaper than SSD. And the gap is widening.
#14
Can you take the drive out of this and use as a standard sata drive?
1 Like #15
Talbs14
Can you take the drive out of this and use as a standard sata drive?
You will lose any warranty as soon as you take it out the case...

I can say the previous 4Gb was hard to get out the plastic shell but once out it was same model as available standalone (but £25 cheaper at the time). Been in my PC as main data drive (after SSD boot) and performed without issue for nearly 2 years (and yes I do backups -- to another Seagate drive)

Edited By: GRiDlock on Oct 21, 2016 08:41
#16
For 3.5 inch HDD it is decent price not a bargain anymore. Since about 1 year ago you could get 5TB HDD for about £100 if you could play a waiting game.
#17
K1LLER HORNET
johngrundy2
I have the 6tb backup plus think I paid £129 at Argos. I was a bit wary because it's a Seagate and also it uses SMR technology. I have used this drive for a few months and have not had any problems however it is slow to write to and it runs a bit hotter than my other drives 43c at the moment my other external drives are in the high 20s. I am pleased with it so far fingers crossed.
I've got an internal Archive/SMR drive and it runs at a consistent 40°C. Must be the normal temperature for them. A few degrees hotter than the WD Red's I've got.

Hi. Thanks for that it's nice to know it's not just my drive.
#18
I got 2 of these a year ago, both work well, perfect for backups & storage, both work fine now but I did experience problems when connecting to an older 2012 Mac Pro, if left permanently on the drive would have disconnect errors. I tested them on the PC and they showed no errors, one day I installed a USB3 PCi upgrade in the Mac Pro, then the drive performed perfectly & much faster, it might be a mac problem or a USB compatibility problem..just thought I'd give people a heads up.
#19
Looking for a reliable 1TB USB 3 portable storage under £50? any recommendation guys
#20
K1LLER HORNET
In before Seagate reliability comment.
Note: Anyone who has accurate information knows that it was mainly the 3TB drives that gave Seagate a bad reputation. All other capacitie drives should be as reliable as any other brand.
Wasn't that an issue with 3tb drives in general? (Seagate was the worth offender though)
1 Like #21
Toshiba 5TB Drive here for £104.98 @ BTshop ( was DABS)
1 Like #22
alictait
I had a 3TB one fail on me last week :(

Is it not covered under the "Sale of Goods Act"? If it's a Manufacturer Fault (which I'm assuming it is, due to the amount of other people having failing 3TB Drives) then I think the Manufacturer has an obligation to repair or replace it, even if the original warranty has expired. Think you may be covered for upto 6 years, could be wrong though :). Would not waste time getting fobbed off by the store you purchased it from, just write directly to Seagate :).
2 Likes #23
jimunix
Spinning rust is going to be around for many years while it continues to be 10 times cheaper than SSD. And the gap is widening.

This is true.
But eventually I think SSD will usurp magnetic hard drives for home and small office use, once SSD costs (for large drives) reduce to a level where consumers deem them affordable.

In a few years, when we have 4TB SSDs for about £50 - at this point, I think most would start using SSDs for mass storage.
For comparison a 1TB SSD costs around £220, so there is still a way to go.

For me, the most important thing to look for is reliability (not easy) and the longest possible warranty (very easy to check). The drive in this thread offers only a 2 year warranty, so in effect, you are guaranteed 5TBs of storage, @ £53/year. There are drives available on the market which offer a 5yr warranty, so you can search for these if you want.

Anecdote: I still have a 400GB Seagate which I bought in 2005. It has been in constant, 24/7 use for most of that time and still runs fine. No other drive (and I have had many) has lasted anywhere close to this.
If I were to replace this 400GB drive with a SSD, the cost will be around £100, so the price is not yet low enough.
When this 400GB drive fails, I shall buy another magnetic HDD (not SSD).
#24
K1LLER HORNET
iserlohn
These are shingled magnetic recording drives (SMR) and has all sorts of problems unless you use them for just archiving.
Are you sure it uses SMR?
I would have thought the 'Backup Plus' drives would be the ones with SMR as they'd logically have 'Archive' drives in them.
If it's SMR read speeds will be fine, write speeds after a certain point will fall off a cliff. Will not be a problem as it's an external drive unless you're regularly copying over 50GB of data to the drive in one session.A good explanation of how SMR works if anyone is interested

iserlohn
These are shingled magnetic recording drives (SMR) and has all sorts of problems unless you use them for just archiving.

I use their 8TB SMR drive for a home server as the media archive - works great for serving video and audio from and you can't beat that capacity. So far not experienced any strange pauses when writing though it did take quite a while to sync almost 4TB of files to it from my NAS when I first got it (over the network) - something like 4-5 days of continuous writing.



Edited By: GreatBallsofFire on Oct 21, 2016 17:44
#25
GreatBallsofFire
K1LLER HORNET
iserlohn
These are shingled magnetic recording drives (SMR) and has all sorts of problems unless you use them for just archiving.
Are you sure it uses SMR?
I would have thought the 'Backup Plus' drives would be the ones with SMR as they'd logically have 'Archive' drives in them.
If it's SMR read speeds will be fine, write speeds after a certain point will fall off a cliff. Will not be a problem as it's an external drive unless you're regularly copying over 50GB of data to the drive in one session.A good explanation of how SMR works if anyone is interested
iserlohn
These are shingled magnetic recording drives (SMR) and has all sorts of problems unless you use them for just archiving.
I use their 8TB SMR drive for a home server as the media archive - works great for serving video and audio from and you can't beat that capacity. So far not experienced any strange pauses when writing though it did take quite a while to sync almost 4TB of files to it from my NAS when I first got it (over the network) - something like 4-5 days of continuous writing.

I use mine for pretty much the same thing. Housing media for Plex. No issues so far.

For moving large amounts of data to the drive in one session you should use TeraCopy. It somehow prevents the write speed from falling off a cliff. Perhaps it flushes the cache periodically or something but I was able to move around 2TB of data across in one go at full speed whereas using native Windows resulted in severe slowdowns after around 50GB iirc.

Edited By: K1LLER HORNET on Oct 21, 2016 18:21
#26
I've had 3x3TB from Seagate fail in the last year. Never again.

Edit: Looks like we're not alone

http://www.eteknix.com/3tb-seagate-hard-drives-43-failure-rate-constant-use/

Edited By: Les Alanos on Oct 23, 2016 13:09: Update with article
#27
Les Alanos
I've had 3x3TB from Seagate fail in the last year. Never again.
Edit: Looks like we're not alonehttp://www.eteknix.com/3tb-seagate-hard-drives-43-failure-rate-constant-use/
that was posted 2 years ago, and it was only the 3TB drives. mine got the click of death, luckily it wasn't a main drive, although i did lose some important data. i've now gotten into the habit of upgrading drives about every 2 years or when the warranty is due to expire. having had 2 samsung internal sata 500gb drives (bought at the same time), the least used one failed 3 years ago, the other has since been cloned onto a samsung evo ssd

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