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Sennheiser Momentum Headphones £129.99 In HMV - Apparent Misprice

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In HMV Cheltenham, these sumptuous cans were marked at £259.99, not blue crossed. Some other cheaper ones were blue crossed with a sign on the wall saying up to 40% off, including some Bose AC3s.

I thought I might as well give it a shot so i took these up as well as the Bose ones. The guy told me the Bose were only 20% off but for some reason these were going through at half price. Needless to say I jumped at it. He said it was a misprice on the national computer and they were only supposed to be 10% off. £260 seems about right online going by Google shopping.

Great review here - whathifi.com/rev…tum

£155.99 when I bought a pair today.
- anewman
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  1. FHunter's avatar
    therudders

    So let me ge this right, you paid£130 for headphones, and you think you … So let me ge this right, you paid£130 for headphones, and you think you got a deal? you need help kidda



    Nope what it means is you have have no idea how good music sounds through a decent set of cans so you carry on listening through your Poundland earphones so you can spend your spare money on your booze and fags kidda....
  2. FireFreeAFC's avatar
    dannypearson

    I might be getting old but who pays £130 for earphones for day to day … I might be getting old but who pays £130 for earphones for day to day use? None of us are music producers are we.Not voted hot or cold, as these are probably the cheapest price so a cold vote would be unwarranted but still £130 for earphones.When I was young if you had earphones going over your head you got bullied for looking a tool.



    You obviously dont appreciate good audio quality.
    (edited)
  3. dewonderful's avatar
    PsychoSonny

    i on the other hand own a pair of hd25-1 mk ii's, shop in asda, have 2 … i on the other hand own a pair of hd25-1 mk ii's, shop in asda, have 2 top of the range plasma's (one panasonic and one samsung), nexus 4 and 2 german cars and a japanese one as well as a fine range of designer gear.


    17284755-Vf9BJ

  4. jut1972's avatar
    PsychoSonny

    LMAOi suppose you usually shop in lidl/aldi and have a £300 technika tv, … LMAOi suppose you usually shop in lidl/aldi and have a £300 technika tv, a dacia sandero and a htc wildfire and primark gear.i on the other hand own a pair of hd25-1 mk ii's, shop in asda, have 2 top of the range plasma's (one panasonic and one samsung), nexus 4 and 2 german cars and a japanese one as well as a fine range of designer gear.as with everything you get what you pay for, i do love a good bargain but i prefer quality over cheap tat i did buy some cheap white t-shirts for the gym from primark once, but i found the quality of the material, the shape and fit as well as the way they changed colour over time made me spending £10-£20 on a single white CK t shirt worthwhile, because i know it will feel better, last longer and retain it's natural white colour.for example, i spend £17 for a litre of cooking oil/butter, whereas you probably spend £1 a litre, the difference being i am eating the healthiest and most natural thing possible, and you have cheap man made refined stuff which is bad for you. you may think me spending 17 times as much is crazy but the stuff lasts me a month so £17 for a month is cheap imo.more info on oil herehttp://www.coconutoilcompany.com/index.phpif you can find me a cheaper supplier of the same quality of oil, i would be happy. remember unbleached, un refined, organic stuff virgin coconut oil.we are all not knuckle draggers like yourself who do not appreciate quality.



    No, but at least he was polite and didn't feel the need to shout about some frankly poor status symbols.
  5. WessexUnderwater's avatar
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    therudders

    So let me ge this right, you paid£130 for headphones, and you think you … So let me ge this right, you paid£130 for headphones, and you think you got a deal? you need help kidda



    Not with literacy.
  6. Morsicatio's avatar
    PsychoSonny

    just saying they are rubbish for the money, is that not allowed?



    You, Sir are unquestionably among the higher echelons of a refined society. You are also a dick.
  7. ebc-'s avatar
    PsychoSonny

    LMAOi suppose you usually shop in lidl/aldi and have a £300 technika tv, … LMAOi suppose you usually shop in lidl/aldi and have a £300 technika tv, a dacia sandero and a htc wildfire and primark gear.i on the other hand own a pair of hd25-1 mk ii's, shop in asda, have 2 top of the range plasma's (one panasonic and one samsung), nexus 4 and 2 german cars and a japanese one as well as a fine range of designer gear.as with everything you get what you pay for, i do love a good bargain but i prefer quality over cheap tat i did buy some cheap white t-shirts for the gym from primark once, but i found the quality of the material, the shape and fit as well as the way they changed colour over time made me spending £10-£20 on a single white CK t shirt worthwhile, because i know it will feel better, last longer and retain it's natural white colour.for example, i spend £17 for a litre of cooking oil/butter, whereas you probably spend £1 a litre, the difference being i am eating the healthiest and most natural thing possible, and you have cheap man made refined stuff which is bad for you. you may think me spending 17 times as much is crazy but the stuff lasts me a month so £17 for a month is cheap imo.more info on oil herehttp://www.coconutoilcompany.com/index.phpif you can find me a cheaper supplier of the same quality of oil, i would be happy. remember unbleached, un refined, organic stuff virgin coconut oil.we are all not knuckle draggers like yourself who do not appreciate quality.



    You need to be put down.
  8. ManMang0's avatar
    ASDA = Cheapest and worse store when comparing to Tesco and Sainsbury's. Their meat needs burying 20 meters underground 4 days before its sell by date! And the Bananas taste different to any other banana i've ever eaten. Just a couple of examples.

    100k a year and you sit on hotukdeals and have keyboard fights?

    100k a year and you don't know how to capitalize. (yes a pun xd)

    Anyone who owns a nice car doesn't refer to them from the country they are produced, at any opportunity they drop the make/model because it makes them hard. I own a pretty rocking mountain bike and even I drop the name of that on occasion in a similar fashion (customized Specialized FSR XC) :P

    You bang on about your oils way too much, I have about 6 different oils in my kitchen because I can cook and you can't do everything efficiently with one type of oil, especially that stuff in the link.

    Comparing Primark t-shirts to CK is like comparing an ice cold Budvar to an ASDA(just sprang to mind) own brand warn can of lager. Also what would one be doing even walking into Primark in the first place?

    While we are sharing I earn about 25-27k a year own a pair of AKG 460s, shop in Sainsbury's, have one mid range Toshiba TV, a HTC one X, 1 french car(not forgetting the MTB bike) and 4!!! yes 4!!! pairs of Calvin Klein boxer shorts! I think looking at a ratio of wage to lifestyle i'm living the **** dream compared to you!

    One day sir Jesus will swoop down from his perch that is your ego and rip out your (obviously massive) gonads to feed them to your imaginary wife who has a GG bust and wears nothing but £1000 designer bikinis while hand delivering you coconut oil covered protein bars that where purchased from ASDA by one of your German man servants.


    BTW Heat from me, ill check this deal out I could do with some full size cans like these.
  9. dewonderful's avatar
    jomay

    The clarity, the spatial resolution, it is like you are standing directly … The clarity, the spatial resolution, it is like you are standing directly in front of an orchestra playing just for you. You can hear the singer opening her mouth and breathing ever so clearly.


    These headphones are
    FOR P@RN!
  10. wheelbo's avatar
    PsychoSonny

    LMAOi suppose you usually shop in lidl/aldi and have a £300 technika tv, … LMAOi suppose you usually shop in lidl/aldi and have a £300 technika tv, a dacia sandero and a htc wildfire and primark gear.i on the other hand own a pair of hd25-1 mk ii's, shop in asda, have 2 top of the range plasma's (one panasonic and one samsung), nexus 4 and 2 german cars and a japanese one as well as a fine range of designer gear.as with everything you get what you pay for, i do love a good bargain but i prefer quality over cheap tat i did buy some cheap white t-shirts for the gym from primark once, but i found the quality of the material, the shape and fit as well as the way they changed colour over time made me spending £10-£20 on a single white CK t shirt worthwhile, because i know it will feel better, last longer and retain it's natural white colour.for example, i spend £17 for a litre of cooking oil/butter, whereas you probably spend £1 a litre, the difference being i am eating the healthiest and most natural thing possible, and you have cheap man made refined stuff which is bad for you. you may think me spending 17 times as much is crazy but the stuff lasts me a month so £17 for a month is cheap imo.more info on oil herehttp://www.coconutoilcompany.com/index.phpif you can find me a cheaper supplier of the same quality of oil, i would be happy. remember unbleached, un refined, organic stuff virgin coconut oil.we are all not knuckle draggers like yourself who do not appreciate quality.



    Lmfao! Look out everyone, he shops @ Asda. We are not worthy your Lordship. I say your the Messiah and I should know, I've followed a few!
  11. WessexUnderwater's avatar
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    dannypearson

    I who pays £130 for earphones for day to day use?



    Surely if you are using them day to day that's a good reason to stump up. 3p/day if you use them for 10 years.

    One snag with these cans is the cable is 10cm less than the distance from my stereo to my PC chair. Hence the angle of the avatar
    (edited)
  12. deleted317916's avatar
    PsychoSonny

    LMAOi suppose you usually shop in lidl/aldi and have a £300 technika tv, … LMAOi suppose you usually shop in lidl/aldi and have a £300 technika tv, a dacia sandero and a htc wildfire and primark gear.i on the other hand own a pair of hd25-1 mk ii's, shop in asda, have 2 top of the range plasma's (one panasonic and one samsung), nexus 4 and 2 german cars and a japanese one as well as a fine range of designer gear.as with everything you get what you pay for, i do love a good bargain but i prefer quality over cheap tat i did buy some cheap white t-shirts for the gym from primark once, but i found the quality of the material, the shape and fit as well as the way they changed colour over time made me spending £10-£20 on a single white CK t shirt worthwhile, because i know it will feel better, last longer and retain it's natural white colour.for example, i spend £17 for a litre of cooking oil/butter, whereas you probably spend £1 a litre, the difference being i am eating the healthiest and most natural thing possible, and you have cheap man made refined stuff which is bad for you. you may think me spending 17 times as much is crazy but the stuff lasts me a month so £17 for a month is cheap imo.more info on oil herehttp://www.coconutoilcompany.com/index.phpif you can find me a cheaper supplier of the same quality of oil, i would be happy. remember unbleached, un refined, organic stuff virgin coconut oil.we are all not knuckle draggers like yourself who do not appreciate quality.



    What a T*t
  13. J0n35y's avatar
    danielmgreen24

    Good deal. However, is it worth spending this on headphones when the … Good deal. However, is it worth spending this on headphones when the majority of people now listening to lower quality mp3 music?



    mp3 quality is only half the problem. Much of modern music is recorded and mastered pretty poorly. The Vaccines debut is a good example of a badly mastered album and good headphones will make issues very clear.

    But on the whole, 256-320kbps will be adequate for most folks uses and for most of the headphones out there up to £300 or so.
  14. Wavod's avatar
    J0n35y

    mp3 quality is only half the problem. Much of modern music is recorded … mp3 quality is only half the problem. Much of modern music is recorded and mastered pretty poorly. The Vaccines debut is a good example of a badly mastered album and good headphones will make issues very clear.But on the whole, 256-320kbps will be adequate for most folks uses and for most of the headphones out there up to £300 or so.



    + 1
  15. deleted317966's avatar
    You've gotta love HUKD; where else can you open a thread about headphones and be confronted with such fascinating tales, like Asda being an aspirational supermaket, how many cars a person owns and the price of coconut oil?
  16. 20p's avatar
    A1ien

    Remember these will come with a 2 year warranty from Sennheiser.



    If you register them on Sennheiser's website, you get 5 years part and labour.

    Club Orpheus
  17. afroylnt's avatar
    dannypearson

    I might be getting old but who pays £130 for earphones for day to day … I might be getting old but who pays £130 for earphones for day to day use? ....



    People who can afford to? who pays £30 for a bottle of wine? maybe more people than you realise...
  18. jomay's avatar
    therudders

    So let me ge this right, you paid£130 for headphones, and you think you … So let me ge this right, you paid£130 for headphones, and you think you got a deal? you need help kidda


    I used to be a non-believer for a long time. But I got converted and bought a set of very nice speakers that used to retail for 2k+£. I get questions like "how many watts?" - maybe only 50W Sine wave power and uncountably more Watts PMPO. When I turn them up people are amazed and shocked, because their BOSE speaker sound like crap compared to them. The clarity, the spatial resolution, it is like you are standing directly in front of an orchestra playing just for you. You can hear the singer opening her mouth and breathing ever so clearly. It is almost spooky.

    Obviously you won't be able to appreciate good speakers/headphones if you use your iPhone to play back some (badly ripped) MP3's. But in that case you should also mix a Grand Cru Bordeaux wine with Coke...:D
  19. Wavod's avatar
    dewonderful

    These headphones areFOR P@RN!



    .......NOT just any p@rn ........ HMV p@rn
    (edited)
  20. PsychoSonny's avatar
    chelmsfordman

    I have an iphone 5 and any headphones I have wouldbe used with this, is … I have an iphone 5 and any headphones I have wouldbe used with this, is it not worth paying extra for quality headphnes such as these if the MP3 quality is already pretty poor? Ive currently got a pair of sennheiser 218i and am considering getting a real quality set of headphones, will it be worth it just for ipod / iphone use?



    head over to head fi for more info, you will be surprised that the iphone has really good audio internals, just that they were designed to supply in ear plugs rather than headphones. spend £50 on a decent set of in-ears rather than headphones for an iphone. mp3's can be just as good quality as the cd so long as its a decent bit rate, etc. and you are using a decent app like EQU to play them through. head over to head fi if you want to learn more.

    zygote23

    These are not bad for the price but they aren't great either. Useless … These are not bad for the price but they aren't great either. Useless for mp3 and won't be at their best unless you are feeding them a good signal from a good amp. Some of the comments on here are priceless but then intellect has limits where stupidity has none



    absolute rubbish, your making mp3 out to be audio cassette quality when it is not, sure it is not FLAC, but it doesn't need to be if your using a decent audio processing app, I use Neutron MP on android, it plays all my 320kbps mp3's crystal clear.
  21. barbiegirl's avatar
    dannypearson

    I might be getting old but who pays £130 for earphones for day to day … I might be getting old but who pays £130 for earphones for day to day use? None of us are music producers are we.Not voted hot or cold, as these are probably the cheapest price so a cold vote would be unwarranted but still £130 for earphones.When I was young if you had earphones going over your head you got bullied for looking a tool.



    No, that was just your experience and may well have been down to you actually being a bit of a tool. Always dangerous to take your egocentric experience and apply it to everyone else...
  22. deleted534935's avatar
    PsychoSonny

    LMAOi suppose you usually shop in lidl/aldi and have a £300 technika tv, … LMAOi suppose you usually shop in lidl/aldi and have a £300 technika tv, a dacia sandero and a htc wildfire and primark gear.i on the other hand own a pair of hd25-1 mk ii's, shop in asda, have 2 top of the range plasma's (one panasonic and one samsung), nexus 4 and 2 german cars and a japanese one as well as a fine range of designer gear.as with everything you get what you pay for, i do love a good bargain but i prefer quality over cheap tat i did buy some cheap white t-shirts for the gym from primark once, but i found the quality of the material, the shape and fit as well as the way they changed colour over time made me spending £10-£20 on a single white CK t shirt worthwhile, because i know it will feel better, last longer and retain it's natural white colour.for example, i spend £17 for a litre of cooking oil/butter, whereas you probably spend £1 a litre, the difference being i am eating the healthiest and most natural thing possible, and you have cheap man made refined stuff which is bad for you. you may think me spending 17 times as much is crazy but the stuff lasts me a month so £17 for a month is cheap imo.more info on oil herehttp://www.coconutoilcompany.com/index.phpif you can find me a cheaper supplier of the same quality of oil, i would be happy. remember unbleached, un refined, organic stuff virgin coconut oil.we are all not knuckle draggers like yourself who do not appreciate quality.



    Far from it. I'm self employedand last year made a profit over £100k and my lifestyle reflects that. Don't judge a book by it's cover, but I wouldn't be spending £100 on earphones. I only listen to music through my iPhone. Like I said, not hot or cold for me, I just don't see the point.

    In terms of your diet it's better not to eat any cooking oils or butter. You should just eat clean foods and plenty of protein. I generally spend about £50 a week on protein bars. Far from cheap but people can eat what they want can't they - we all have different dietary targets, but what's that got to do with the price of earphones.

    Shop at Asda hey. How the other half live..........

    (edited)
  23. pluves1's avatar
    shiningflarenova

    is this really national? paid 250 via apple shop which I saved £10 due to … is this really national? paid 250 via apple shop which I saved £10 due to mis-price



    Not sure but, will be 50% in those shops earmarked for closure.

    The latest 37 HMV stores identified for closure are:

    Ashford, Basildon, Bolton, Cheltenham, East Kilbride, Enfield, Folkestone, Glasgow Argyle, Gloucester, Grimsby, Hatfield Galleria, Heathrow T5 Departure Level, Heathrow Terminal 1, Heathrow Terminal 3, Heathrow Terminal 4, Hemel Hempstead, High Wycombe, Isle of Wight, Lancaster, Leadenhall, Mansfield, Middlesbrough, Newbury, Newcastle Silverlink, Newport, Nuneaton, Redditch, Salisbury, Scarborough, Southport, Stafford, Staines, Stockport, Swindon, Taunton, Torquay, Woking.

    The 66 stores already earmarked for closure were:

    Ashton-under-Lyne, Ballymena, Barnsley, Bayswater, Belfast Boucher Road, Belfast Forestside, Bexleyheath, Birkenhead, Birmingham Fort, Blackburn, Boston, Bournemouth Castlepoint, Bracknell, Burton-upon-Trent, Camberley, Chesterfield, Coleraine, Craigavon, Croydon Centrale, Derry, Dumfries, Durham, Edinburgh Fort, Edinburgh Gyle Centre, Edinburgh Ocean, Edinburgh Princes Street, Edinburgh St James, Falkirk, Fulham, Glasgow – Fort, Glasgow – Silverburn, Glasgow Braehead, Huddersfield, Kirkcaldy, Leamington Spa, Leeds White Rose, Lisburn, Loughborough, Luton, Manchester 90, Moorgate, Newry, Newtonabbey, Orpington, Rochdale, Scunthorpe, South Shields, Speke Park, St Albans, St Helens, Stockton-on-Tees, Tamworth, Teesside, Telford, Trocadero, Wakefield, Walsall, Walton-on-Thames, Wandsworth, Warrington, Watford, Wellingborough, Wigan, Wood Green, Workington, Wrexham.
  24. anewman's avatar
    J0n35y

    mp3 quality is only half the problem. Much of modern music is recorded … mp3 quality is only half the problem. Much of modern music is recorded and mastered pretty poorly. The Vaccines debut is a good example of a badly mastered album and good headphones will make issues very clear.But on the whole, 256-320kbps will be adequate for most folks uses and for most of the headphones out there up to £300 or so.


    MP3 is indistinguishable from lossless/cd at sufficient bitrate. People will say they can tell the difference, but blind tests show different.

    The quality of mastering is a good point though. Have a read through this. http://web.archive.org/web/20071230101658/rollingstone.com/new…ity The short of it is music is mastered to sound good through carp speakers, with the dynamic range reduced and volume set as high as possible.
  25. trott3r's avatar
    dr.loudness-war.info/

    That is a useful site to find out how compressed (badly mastered) a cd,download or record is.
  26. WessexUnderwater's avatar
    Author
    anewman

    The short of it is music is mastered to sound good through carp … The short of it is music is mastered to sound good through carp speakers, with the dynamic range reduced and volume set as high as possible.



    Gill Scott Heron? The Fin Brothers?
  27. Kopite211's avatar
    Think of it like this, they're technically much better than Dre Beats who's tag line is incredibly misleading. The producer intends for their music to be listened to in a treated room with studio monitors. Failing that you should get flat EQ monitoring headphones. Any of these things with coloured EQ's (usually to mask inferior component quality) are giving you a dodgy approximation of what the producer could hear when making their track.
  28. SnappersMocaps's avatar
    This is the worst thread on the internet.
  29. willhay555's avatar
    Anyone using a deals site then posting about a six figure salary or that their family of eight has five cars on the tarmac may be a different species to the rest of us.
  30. Nuwidol's avatar
    dan1979

    A lot of people don't seem to grasp the idea that headphones like this … A lot of people don't seem to grasp the idea that headphones like this are intended to be used at home. It's irrelevant how they look or whether they have noise cancelling.



    Sorry to be slightly on topic but actually these are designed for portable use. Thats why they' have an 18ohm impedance (sp something like a phone or mp3 player can supply enough current to get them loud enough)
    (edited)
  31. deleted39298's avatar
    BadBunny

    How do these compare to a AKG 450?



    Let me go see. Or at least hear...

    Definitely clearer throughout the range; not quite as loud but with a fuller (but more communicative) bass. They are certainly a step up from the AKGs, though unless you're listening in near-perfect conditions, you'd be hard pressed to notice the difference

    Build quality and comfort are certainly better too, which is quite important to me as I listen with headphones for 8-10 hours a week

    More complete review here:- hifiheadphones.co.uk/for…tml
  32. pluves1's avatar
    anewman

    Be surprised if they accept anything back as they're not legally obliged … Be surprised if they accept anything back as they're not legally obliged to. These niceties are usually among the first things to go when administrators come in, along with gift vouchers.Crikey http://headphonespares.sennheiser.co.uk/portable-headphones/sennheiser-momentumStupid question to those who own a pair: is the side with the cable for the left or right ear? It's not printed on the headphones, and the instructions make it no clearer, presenting pictures with them apparently being worn both ways.



    Cable is on the left ear.
  33. A1ien's avatar
    OmegaSaad

    Picked up some amperiors and momentums today at the HMV in Selfridges. I … Picked up some amperiors and momentums today at the HMV in Selfridges. I got the last amperiors but they had 3 more momentums for roughtly 160 in store today. Hope that helps some one.



    Thanks for the heads up, I managed to get the last pair of Momentums this morning. I even managed to get an extra 10% discount as they were the last ones. £140 is not a bad price at all!
  34. 20p's avatar
    anewman

    Ask for price check at till. Should be 40%



    Yep scanned at the till at £233. I think I give up, already been to three stores now.
  35. jayjay266's avatar
    MBeeching

    Would be interested to hear which you prefer (asap! :P). I love the look … Would be interested to hear which you prefer (asap! :P). I love the look of the Momentums, but I am drawn towards the Amperiors.Reviews seem to favour the Momentums but Amperiors seem to have more fans on the forums for their sound signature.



    I think the Amperiors are considered hi-fi and momentum's mid-fi. Amperiors more accurate and detailed but don't sacrifice bass impact. Momentums have a more laid back sound which is probably why it doesn't appeal for professionals and audiophiles. Momentums are over ear, amperiors on ear. Amperiors functional whereas the momentums are beautiful! It depends what floats your boat really. I have both and love them both in different ways! Luckily headphones don't get jealous!
  36. jayjay266's avatar
    OmegaSaad

    Yh maybe i did exaggerate a bit but in comparison to other headphones i … Yh maybe i did exaggerate a bit but in comparison to other headphones i own/have tried, the sound stage of the momentums is the best by far.



    Fair enough mate


    By the way, it might be worth noting that the positioning of the cups are a little picky on the Momentum's. I found that sliding them a little further down than what you think is normal will give a better seal. It is hard to explain, but when you press inwards on the lower part of the cups, you might notice quite a bit of difference in sound quality. By sliding the cups a little further South you can get an improvement in the SQ particularly the bass.
  37. twe's avatar
    These haven't been out for long and a lot of reviews are from February so doubt if the condition is that poor on ex display.
  38. superspod's avatar
    jayjay266

    Ah OK. Thanks for your reply. I'm going to fire an email to sennheiser to … Ah OK. Thanks for your reply. I'm going to fire an email to sennheiser to see if this extended warranty is still valid



    Bounce here as well. Would be good to know if you hear back from them.
  39. deleted779963's avatar
    Some people really have no idea of true quality and real sounding music. People have accepted lower quality. £150 on some quality cans is very cheap. Maybe people sound demo these and look at how much the person will use them before saying they are too pricey. I have some Bowers & Wilkins speaker and some sennheiser ie800 earphones and if I broke them in any way I love them and use them every day I would replace them straight away. I wish everybody could listen to these high quality speakers or earphones because people listen to a song every day on the radio and if they listens to them once on a higher end audio device they would hear things they hadn't before. £150 is nothing to spend on something that can last many years and I mean many many years with care. Some would spend or waste money on items like cigs and in a couple of week you could buy these headphone at full price. Please think and I am not being neg here but if you want quality then you have to pay for it. Remember your not paying for the name in most thing but the quality that come with it and the tech behind it. Lower quality does remove some of the noises but really demo headphones with Mp3 and if you spend hours listening they would make you smile, cry and tell others of how good they are. Thanks and sorry if I offend or upset anyone but you have to own or have owned to comment and say they are not worth the money. Also I am not a highly paid worker but don't drink or smoke just save. My friend Bang and olufsen speakers are about 18 years old and still sound mint.
  40. anewman's avatar
    Sounds like a good deal, but doubt I'd find any. Hot for the info though!
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