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Sharp BD-HP21H Blu-ray Player £79.99 @ The Range

£79.99 @ The Range
Sharp BD-HP21H Blu-ray Player £79.99 @ the range. Ex Empire Direct stock. I'm taking a punt on posting this but hope to cover everything here. This player is spec 1.1 and therefore will not be of… Read More
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7y, 8m agoFound 7 years, 8 months ago
Sharp BD-HP21H Blu-ray Player £79.99 @ the range. Ex Empire Direct stock.

I'm taking a punt on posting this but hope to cover everything here. This player is spec 1.1 and therefore will not be of any use to those who want to use the downloadable content of spec 2.0 via ethernet. However, if like me you really don't care for all the bells and whistles nonsense that has plagued home video formats since the introduction of DVD then this could be for you. Updatable via disc ( anyone with a PC built in the last decade should have the eqipment to be able to update this player ). If you don't think yourself capable then I bet you know someone who is. Get the geek who lives next door to do it for you and everyone's happy. Some people say it's an ugly player but it looks o.k. to me. Some say it take a while to load. Use that time to get some popcorn ready :)


So to summise. If you have a HD t.v and no HD source and you want to watch or rent Blu ray discs and don't want all the interactive rubbish that comes with it and prefer a branded product over a Curtis product then this is for you.
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#1
Alot of rented and new films will not play on a 1.1 profile player, it don't matter if you don't want the bd live :thumbsup:
#2
philmitchell
Alot of rented and new films will not play on a 1.1 profile player, it don't matter if you don't want the bd live :thumbsup:


Like what? I bought one of these on clearance at Makro the other month for £57, have not had any problems with latest firmware at all.

Nice to see you back up this statement that profile 1.1 will not play new films, wheres the source of this info please?:whistling:
#3
cicobuff
Like what? I bought one of these on clearance at Makro the other month for £57, have not had any problems with latest firmware at all.

Nice to see you back up this statement that profile 1.1 will not play new films, wheres the source of this info please?:whistling:


Have you tried Crank 2?

This is supposedly a good test...
#4
Uridium
Have you tried Crank 2?

This is supposedly a good test...


Nope, but according to this link, it tends to have more problems with Profile 2.0 players with insufficient memory than with Profile 1.1 players

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/blogs/team+hcc/lisongate+confirms+compatibility+issues+crank+2+blu+ray+release+bd+live+blame+25+09+0

I am amazed to be honest then if some titles are meant to be incompatible with certain players how on earth Blu Ray has won the war of the HD format, its ridiculous! Glad currently I have more HD DVD than Blu Ray titles, will be curiously adding more Blu Ray to my rental queue though, but what faith has a consumer in buying a film to find its incompatible with their player.

And yet there are so many people on here saying Blu Ray is better, HD DVD is dead...well it lost the format war, but it at least was properly finalised as a format and was robust!!!
#5
i had trouble playing 'australia' till i updated the firmware on it ,and its now fine.
#6
cicobuff
Nope, but according to this link, it tends to have more problems with Profile 2.0 players with insufficient memory than with Profile 1.1 players

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/blogs/team+hcc/lisongate+confirms+compatibility+issues+crank+2+blu+ray+release+bd+live+blame+25+09+0

I am amazed to be honest then if some titles are meant to be incompatible with certain players how on earth Blu Ray has won the war of the HD format, its ridiculous! Glad currently I have more HD DVD than Blu Ray titles, will be curiously adding more Blu Ray to my rental queue though, but what faith has a consumer in buying a film to find its incompatible with their player.

And yet there are so many people on here saying Blu Ray is better, HD DVD is dead...well it lost the format war, but it at least was properly finalised as a format and was robust!!!


The thing to remember is that HDDVD always had this type of content right from the start. Because Blu Ray won the "war" they had to implement it since how can an "inferior" format have something extra? The implementaion was a direct result of the war imho and was something that they should have had ready from the start.

I'm still not interested in all the additional content nonsense. I want to watch a good film in high def and that is all. ( owns HDDVD :) )
#7
cicobuff
Like what? I bought one of these on clearance at Makro the other month for £57, have not had any problems with latest firmware at all.

Nice to see you back up this statement that profile 1.1 will not play new films, wheres the source of this info please?:whistling:


There are alot that have problems on rented films, and some of the new films, see the word I said some.

Don't need a source of bloody info some will not play I did not get the info off the net I have seen it at first hand and someone in the family had a 1.1 profile player until they upgraded to 2.0 :thumbsup:
#8
DADOF7
i had trouble playing 'australia' till i updated the firmware on it ,and its now fine.


Yes, we know that from here here

Might as well have copied and pasted it :p
#9
tawke
The thing to remember is that HDDVD always had this type of content right from the start. Because Blu Ray won the "war" they had to implement it since how can an "inferior" format have something extra? The implementaion was a direct result of the war imho and was something that they should have had ready from the start.

I'm still not interested in all the additional content nonsense. I want to watch a good film in high def and that is all. ( owns HDDVD :) )


Same here, I bought this Sharp player mainly because it was a fantastic price I got it for (and cannot be bothered with profile 2.0 hooking it up to ethernet. My good old Toshiba EP30 gets far more use I can tell you!

Saying that though, if HD DVD had not of lost the war I would not have invested in it and the subsequent amount of films I now own, but owning both, clearly the Java hungry bloated interface of Blu Ray seems to be its achilles heel.
#10
philmitchell
There are alot that have problems on rented films, and some of the new films, see the word I said some.

Don't need a source of bloody info some will not play I did not get the info off the net I have seen it at first hand and someone in the family had a 1.1 profile player until they upgraded to 2.0 :thumbsup:


Right, so you are basically assuming on someone in the family on their particular player, not even knowing if they kept up to date with the firmwares released for their particular model player. :roll:

"Seems" like all players have their problems, Profile 1.1 or Profile 2.0, but to make a broad assumption about Profile 1.1 compatibility issues with new titles is somewhat odd :roll: And whats the difference between "rented" and "bought" films that would cause the issue!!!!
#11
cicobuff
Right, so you are basically assuming on someone in the family on their particular player, not even knowing if they kept up to date with the firmwares released for their particular model player. :roll:


I have not assumed anything you have done that :)
1 Like #12
philmitchell
I have not assumed anything you have done that :)


Of course you have assumed, you have no proof to give that "some" rental discs and new titles are incompatible with Profile 1.1, as you have not stated any that have, and certainly a google search I have done I have not found any problems other than with Samsung BD-P1200 player which they had a lawsuit over incompatiblity issues.

You have made a broad sweeping statement about Profile 1.1 players being incompatible with "some" "rented" and "new" titles, and yet failed to give any info to any potential purchasers here why they should then avoid Profile 1.1 players...in other words thats scaremongering people from buying players that are Profile 1.1 without any good cause or proof if you had stated some FACTS fair enough, but you mentioned the same cack on the last Sharp thread...so I would like once again what facts other than your word of mouth!!! And you said " A LOT of rented and new films won't play on Profile 1.1" if thats not an assumption what is?
#13
Am I sensing a little love between cicobuff & philmitchell? I think so.
#14
cicobuff;6819628
Like what? I bought one of these on clearance at Makro the other month for £57, have not had any problems with latest firmware at all.

Nice to see you back up this statement that profile 1.1 will not play new films, wheres the source of this info please?:whistling:

same here....even if it couldnt play a film you should be able to get a firmware upgrade as a download or disk anyway
#15
Please stop your squabbling. The OP has gone out of their way to say that this model can be upgraded albeit perhaps in a slightly more technical way than some people would prefer, and so once upgraded you will have a BD player as compatible as probably any other for a bargain price. Voted hot.
#16
cant see this for sale at all...or was it instore?
#17
Got one of these at Makro, updated the firmware & it seems to play everything thrown at it so far.
Main critisism is how painfully slow it is to get going, if you can live with this, no problem.

BTW has anybody found a region hack yet?
#18
did not think you could fully upgrade to 2.2 as 2.2 has to have at least 1gb local storage capability and 1.1 spec only has 256k so whould be hardware change not just new firmware.Still worth having though plays most discs ok you just lose some of extra features
#19
£95 in Asda today
#20
Apologies for not saying that this was instore. They had stacks of them in the Newport store just before closing time on Sunday so don't know why it's been expired.

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