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Shimano Deore Rapidfire 9 speed Shifter Set £10.00 at Halfords

£10.00 @ Halfords
Pretty good deal for some mid-range MTB shifters. I would be surprised if you could find these cheaper new. Just noticed -- "Comes complete with SP41 gear cables and outers". Makes this a better de… Read More
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Pretty good deal for some mid-range MTB shifters. I would be surprised if you could find these cheaper new.

Just noticed -- "Comes complete with SP41 gear cables and outers". Makes this a better deal, considering you'd pay another couple of quid for those usually.

Edit: Just adding that they're 9-speed shifters. Compatible with 9/27 speed bikes. (9 for using only right hand shifter, and 27 using the right and left shifter with a triple on the front -- though you might be able to get them working with a double, as long as you set it up with a 'ghost shift' of some sort)
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#1
Thanks op.
#2
Is it a difficult job to swap twist grip gear shifters to these? My wife as a Specialized Expedition cycle and finds the twist grip difficult at times. These look easier to use.
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No overly no.

You may need to get your actual gears reset with new cables and all that, but it is essentially take the grips off (you'll need to probably buy new grips btw), unbolt the twist shifter, unbolt the cable off the front/rear derailleur, feed out the old cable, pop new shifters on, bolt them in place, feed cable in, attach cable with some slight tension, bolt up.

Use a little gt85 to help the grips slide back on set and test.

Its not overly complicated, the only bit that you may tumble on is the setting up of you gears again. Remember always have the gear set to its lowest (smallest) cogs when cabling up.
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2sheds
Is it a difficult job to swap twist grip gear shifters to these? My wife as a Specialized Expedition cycle and finds the twist grip difficult at times. These look easier to use.

It's possible, but there's a few things to consider. Here's a link that will hopefully help:
https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130620085714AAouUIV
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2sheds
Is it a difficult job to swap twist grip gear shifters to these? My wife as a Specialized Expedition cycle and finds the twist grip difficult at times. These look easier to use.

You need to check the compatibility with your cassette and mechs. I'd suggest buying both this and the rear mech that the OP has also posted. Then you might need to limit the movement on the rear mech (alter the stop screws) f it isnt a 9 speed.
If neccessary put a 9 speed cassette and chain on - you'll gain the extra gears and a much nicer gearchange.

this site has some good tech info if you spend some time looking around
http://sheldonbrown.com/speeds.html

Edited By: mas99 on Jul 26, 2014 14:34
#6
For some reason they gave me the M590 shifters -- not complaining though. Also the M591 mech!
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2sheds
Is it a difficult job to swap twist grip gear shifters to these? My wife as a Specialized Expedition cycle and finds the twist grip difficult at times. These look easier to use.

If I'm correct you're referring to either the Specialized Expedition Sport, or the Elite -- the former having a 7 speed cassette and the latter, an 8 speed. Neither of these are compatible with the shifters here.
#8
Would these be ok to fit on a 21 speed bike ?
#9
Darzen
Would these be ok to fit on a 21 speed bike ?

No.
#10
johnstalvern
Darzen
Would these be ok to fit on a 21 speed bike ?

No.

Ok , Thanks
#11
johnstalvern
2sheds
Is it a difficult job to swap twist grip gear shifters to these? My wife as a Specialized Expedition cycle and finds the twist grip difficult at times. These look easier to use.

If I'm correct you're referring to either the Specialized Expedition Sport, or the Elite -- the former having a 7 speed cassette and the latter, an 8 speed. Neither of these are compatible with the shifters here.

Thanks, it is the Expedition Sport. I shall remain on the lookout...
#12
Just reserved some. Pretty sure they are s straight swap for my 9 year old carrera zelos. I've had new cassette new rear mech and new cables but still can't seem to get the gear changes right.
Not sure if maybe it is the gear changer at fault being 9 years old. Only other thing to change is the outers.
#13
2sheds
johnstalvern
2sheds
Is it a difficult job to swap twist grip gear shifters to these? My wife as a Specialized Expedition cycle and finds the twist grip difficult at times. These look easier to use.

If I'm correct you're referring to either the Specialized Expedition Sport, or the Elite -- the former having a 7 speed cassette and the latter, an 8 speed. Neither of these are compatible with the shifters here.

Thanks, it is the Expedition Sport. I shall remain on the lookout...

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/shimano-altus-m310-7-speed-trigger-shifter/rp-prod55296 -- this isn't a bad option if you want a new rapidfire shifter. I think it's generally accepted that the right hand shifter is the one that gets the most use, with the left only really being used when the overall terrain changes drastically. So, personally I'd stick with the rotating shifter and just grab a RH shifter.

You could go second hand as well -- not usually that hard to find the rapidfire type for 7 speed. I actually have a pair of shifters like this, that are incorporated into the brakes. If you want I can give them to you for the price of postage. They're a little bit heavy but I would say £5 would cover it. I don't think I'll ever find a use for them again, as they're 7 speed RH, triple LH and the brake levers are V brakes.

Edited By: johnstalvern on Jul 26, 2014 16:19
#14
sprite127594
Just reserved some. Pretty sure they are s straight swap for my 9 year old carrera zelos. I've had new cassette new rear mech and new cables but still can't seem to get the gear changes right.
Not sure if maybe it is the gear changer at fault being 9 years old. Only other thing to change is the outers.

With these shifters, you tend to find they get gummed up feeling, with sloppy action and delayed return speed. WD40 works wonders in these cases. What sorta shifting issues are you having?
#15
johnstalvern
sprite127594
Just reserved some. Pretty sure they are s straight swap for my 9 year old carrera zelos. I've had new cassette new rear mech and new cables but still can't seem to get the gear changes right.
Not sure if maybe it is the gear changer at fault being 9 years old. Only other thing to change is the outers.

With these shifters, you tend to find they get gummed up feeling, with sloppy action and delayed return speed. WD40 works wonders in these cases. What sorta shifting issues are you having?

Middle range on the rears just won't work right no matter how much I adjust. The high and lows are OK. When I get 5 I need to change the outer cables as 9 years of service has probably had the inner cable wear a grove in them.

Edited By: sprite127594 on Jul 26, 2014 17:59
#16
johnstalvern
2sheds
johnstalvern
2sheds
Is it a difficult job to swap twist grip gear shifters to these? My wife as a Specialized Expedition cycle and finds the twist grip difficult at times. These look easier to use.

If I'm correct you're referring to either the Specialized Expedition Sport, or the Elite -- the former having a 7 speed cassette and the latter, an 8 speed. Neither of these are compatible with the shifters here.

Thanks, it is the Expedition Sport. I shall remain on the lookout...

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/shimano-altus-m310-7-speed-trigger-shifter/rp-prod55296 -- this isn't a bad option if you want a new rapidfire shifter. I think it's generally accepted that the right hand shifter is the one that gets the most use, with the left only really being used when the overall terrain changes drastically. So, personally I'd stick with the rotating shifter and just grab a RH shifter.

You could go second hand as well -- not usually that hard to find the rapidfire type for 7 speed. I actually have a pair of shifters like this, that are incorporated into the brakes. If you want I can give them to you for the price of postage. They're a little bit heavy but I would say £5 would cover it. I don't think I'll ever find a use for them again, as they're 7 speed RH, triple LH and the brake levers are V brakes.

Any reason for not going with my suggestion - get these and the rear mech and go buy a 9 speed cassette and chain. For the cost that seems the best way forward to me.

I've just collected mine 590 and 591 were given - the rear mech was the long version
#17
Well, if you want to swap the hub as well then you can go for 9 speed cassette. There are a few options if you're trying to refresh the drive train I guess:

1. on a 7 speed freehub, stick with what you've got and change the shifters for friction or 7 speed indexed.
2. on a 7 speed freehub, buy a 9 speed cassette and run it with 8 speeds using friction shifters or 9 speed shifters -- one shift, whether the first or last, will be a ghost shift which shouldn't move the mech.
3. get an 8 speed rear wheel or install a new 8 speed freehub and use 8 speed cassette with friction or 8 speed shifters (some 7 speed indexed have an 8th click such as Deore thumbies)
4. 8 speed freehubs are the same width as 9 speed -- use a 9 speed cassette with friction or 9 speed shifters.

I think that covers most paths...
#18
sprite127594
Middle range on the rears just won't work right no matter how much I adjust. The high and lows are OK. When I get 5 I need to change the outer cables as 9 years of service has probably had the inner cable wear a grove in them.

That sounds like it could be a bent mech (and potentially the hanger). Have a look at it from behind -- the mech's cage should be more or less parallel to the rear tyre/wheel. It's harder to check whether the hanger has kinda been 'twisted' rather than bent -- but both are possibilities.

It's quite hard to tell by eyeballing it, though. Worth having someone take a look at it or take some pictures and I'll give my opinion.
#19
johnstalvern
sprite127594
Middle range on the rears just won't work right no matter how much I adjust. The high and lows are OK. When I get 5 I need to change the outer cables as 9 years of service has probably had the inner cable wear a grove in them.

That sounds like it could be a bent mech (and potentially the hanger). Have a look at it from behind -- the mech's cage should be more or less parallel to the rear tyre/wheel. It's harder to check whether the hanger has kinda been 'twisted' rather than bent -- but both are possibilities.

It's quite hard to tell by eyeballing it, though. Worth having someone take a look at it or take some pictures and I'll give my opinion.

The mech was a new slx. It was doing it pretty much from the off. Think I'll try changing the outers first As Ive had longer handle bars as well and they need lengthening.
#20

The mech was a new slx. It was doing it pretty much from the off. Think I'll try changing the outers first As Ive had longer handle bars as well and they need lengthening.

Just so we're on the same page -- when you installed the new SLX you set the low and high limits with the screw, adjusted the B screw to set the distance of the mech when using the big sprockets at the back, and adjusted barrel adjuster to set the indexing?

As I said, if the hanger i.e. the bit the mech screws into, might be bent or twisted. If it's a steel frame the hanger is part of the bike, and can be easily twisted back into correct allignment using a derailleur hanger alignment tool. If you're in the Newcastle area I can do it for you, or you can buy one for £30+. Again, might be worth getting the slice of a pro's loaf before shelling out more money.

If the hanger is on an aluminium bike, it's highly likely that the hanger is a kind of replaceable part which you can replace. Just worth identifying the exact issue before taking steps to remedy it.

Also, I just noticed you didn't explicitly mention that you changed the chain -- if you're using a worn chain with a new cassette that's a problem too.

Edited By: johnstalvern on Jul 26, 2014 21:13
#21
Hot from me... Although I pressed cold by mistake. :(
#22
johnstalvern

The mech was a new slx. It was doing it pretty much from the off. Think I'll try changing the outers first As Ive had longer handle bars as well and they need lengthening.

Just so we're on the same page -- when you installed the new SLX you set the low and high limits with the screw, adjusted the B screw to set the distance of the mech when using the big sprockets at the back, and adjusted barrel adjuster to set the indexing?

As I said, if the hanger i.e. the bit the mech screws into, might be bent or twisted. If it's a steel frame the hanger is part of the bike, and can be easily twisted back into correct allignment using a derailleur hanger alignment tool. If you're in the Newcastle area I can do it for you, or you can buy one for £30+. Again, might be worth getting the slice of a pro's loaf before shelling out more money.

If the hanger is on an aluminium bike, it's highly likely that the hanger is a kind of replaceable part which you can replace. Just worth identifying the exact issue before taking steps to remedy it.

Also, I just noticed you didn't explicitly mention that you changed the chain -- if you're using a worn chain with a new cassette that's a problem too.

Cheers mate, I'm no where near Newcastle though. It'd been quite a few months since I bought the mods. Wanted to buy a new bike but I couldn't afford the spec I wanted so I bought a SRAM cassette, SRAM 991 chain, slx mech, new cables, new bottom bracket, rockshox gold 120mm, monkeylite carbon bar, superstar no tubes flow wheel set.

Frame is an old magnesium carrera.
#23
Are you using SRAM shifters at the moment? I've heard they're not compatible with Shimano mechs due to differing pull ratios -- friend of mine was talking about it today. Never had to mix parts that way, so it's not something I'm familiar with really.

My money is still on a mech hanger that's a bit skew wiff -- at this price snap them up and if they don't work out, sell them on for profit on eBay. Everyone's a winner etc.
#24
No mate, these exact shifters. thats why i thought id get these for a direct replacement seems the others are 9 years old now.

ill check the mech for straightness tomorrow.
#25
Reserved both.
Thanks
#26
reserved both and some disk pads (£9.99 down to £4.99). cheers OP.
#27
It's funny I dropped my bike last week and one of mine snapped and broke off.. So well done for finding these at this price.. Hopefully it's not a hard job to replace the broken one.
#28
Looks like there's several sets on eBay already.

Good find OP. As a quick aside have you ever used Newcastle Cycle Centre for a service? Need to take my bike in and had them recommended to me?
#29
Excellent, just bought a Charge yesterday, and a cheap early upgrade is in the offing already. Or even good to buy to keep for a while til wanting to upgrade shifters.
#30
would these fit a Specialized Secteur Sport road bike?
#31
would these fit a Specialized Secteur Sport road bike?
#32
Which model shifter is this please?
#33
Picked mine up this morning. Got M591 rear mech and M590 shifters
#34
Bossworld
Looks like there's several sets on eBay already.

Good find OP. As a quick aside have you ever used Newcastle Cycle Centre for a service? Need to take my bike in and had them recommended to me?

I have to say, I've never heard of them! To be honest, I do all my own work so I've never had to take my bike anywhere. I can say that I believe Recyke y'Bike in Byker is a good place to take your bike generally, as the people are friendly and knowledgeable and most of the services (and products) are well priced.

Personally, I'd recommend that if your bike needs tweaked, it's worth doing it yourself -- unless of course you're not interested in that end, which is fine.
#35
jonconlon
Picked mine up this morning. Got M591 rear mech and M590 shifters
Same here.
#36
Picked my rear mech up today and when I was in there I asked if they had any of these and was told no.... Got home and checked online and I was able to reserve them to pick up in the morning!
Thanks OP!
#37
johnstalvern
Bossworld
Looks like there's several sets on eBay already.

Good find OP. As a quick aside have you ever used Newcastle Cycle Centre for a service? Need to take my bike in and had them recommended to me?

I have to say, I've never heard of them! To be honest, I do all my own work so I've never had to take my bike anywhere. I can say that I believe Recyke y'Bike in Byker is a good place to take your bike generally, as the people are friendly and knowledgeable and most of the services (and products) are well priced.

Personally, I'd recommend that if your bike needs tweaked, it's worth doing it yourself -- unless of course you're not interested in that end, which is fine.

I'm handy with a socket set/spanners but I've not tried to maintain a bike in years. Did a brake cable as a kid and found it frustrating and fiddly so happy to take it in somewhere they can do it properly!

Cheers
#38
How much of an upgrade is this from the Alivio shifters on my bike?

I was thinking of upgrading the rear mech as well but checked and the current one is SLX so that would be a downgrade I think!
#39
Normal Halfords experience for me. Let's you reserve and then a call to say "ahh, sorry Sir, we don't actually have these". Very frustrating.
#40
Agharta
How much of an upgrade is this from the Alivio shifters on my bike?

I was thinking of upgrading the rear mech as well but checked and the current one is SLX so that would be a downgrade I think!

Shifters is as shifters does -- I mean, if the current ones aren't causing a headache, stick with them.

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