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Smartdisk 250GB NAS Drive now £69.99 WSL

£69.99 @ Wex Photographic (Warehouse Express)
Whats special about this you may ask, I can get a 500gigabyte external hard drive for less???? Well yes you can however this is a Network Attached Storage device, once plugged into your router all … Read More
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9y, 6m agoFound 9 years, 6 months ago
Whats special about this you may ask, I can get a 500gigabyte external hard drive for less????

Well yes you can however this is a Network Attached Storage device, once plugged into your router all computers on your network can access this drive without the need for any other computer to be turned on, imagine all your music, videos & pictures etc in one place. You can also plug your USB external hard drive into this to give that complete access to computers on your network.

Smartdisk 250GB NAS Drive

The Soho 250GB Network Attached Storage Drive can be used to share files between your small office or home network. You can easily set up a computer network using the software included, and centralise music, photos, video and data files.

Uses:

Share files between computers on your home or office network
Centralise music, photos, video and data files
Easily set up a computer network using Apple Bonjour or Samba software
Back up any PC or Mac on your network
Create private folders for individual users
Free up hard drive space for individual users
Connect to other USB devices
Add a USB printer to your network using the Print Server feature
System Requirements:

Available USB Port or Ethernet Network
CD-Rom Drive
For NAS Connection: Windows 98SE, ME, 2000 or XP, Mac OS X 10.1 or higher, Linux 2.4 and higher
For USB Connection: Windows 98SE, ME, 2000 or XP, Mac OS 8.6-9x, Mac OS X 10.1 or higher
Technical Specifications:

250GB storage capacity (your operating system may report as less)
Power: +5, +12 VDC via external adapter
Interface: One USB 2.0 device port (B) for connection to host PC
One 10/100 Ethernet port (RJ45) for connection to network
One USB 1.1 host port (A) for connection to printer or other device.
Transfer Rate: USB High Speed: 480 Mb/s (max) Ethernet: 100 Mb/s (max)
Disk Format: FAT32 (default), EXT2, EXT3
Network Features:
Network Attached Storage (NAS) Application
Browser-based configuration tool
IEEE 802.3i, IEEE 802.3u
Apple Bonjour
DHCP
SMB / CIFS
Samba
NFS
Print Server
NTP
UPnP
WINS
Dimensions: 5.0 in x 8.4 in x 2.0 in / 127 mm x 213 mm x 52 mm
Weight: 2.6 lbs (1.2Kg)
Warranty: 1 year
Package Includes:

Hard Drive
Stand
AC adaptor with power cord
Ethernet cable
USB 2.0 A-B cable
User Guide
CD with software and multilingual User Guide
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[admin]#1
Voted hot- that seems to be a really good price :)
#2
Good price for this, however the secondary USB port on the device (to attach a printer/second harddrive) is only USB 1.1 so it will reduce speeds somewhat.

Also remember if you are using this over wireless your transfer rates will be much less than 50mbps (more like 4-8mbps) - which could mean that transferring those large files could be tedious, but to stream information/media would still be adequate!

Ian
1 Like #3
Also worth mentioning that it works as a NAS only when the drive is formatted as FAT32. If you format it as NTFS you lose that functionality.
Problem then is you are limited to files less than 4 Gig in size.

People have also reported problems accessing it under Linux.

It's also available for £49.91 instore at Staples (I picked one up 2 days ago).
#4
great price for a nas box with printer server aswell, nice!

reviews here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Smartdisk-250Gb-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B000FAGC84

dont look to good :(
#5
muddyfox470
Also remember if you are using this over wireless your transfer rates will be much less than 50mbps (more like 4-8mbps) - which could mean that transferring those large files could be tedious, but to stream information/media would still be adequate!

Ian


Any reason why the transfer rates would be so slow via wireless?
banned#6
802.11b = 11mbps max, after overheads etc comes out top at about 7-8mbps for transfers in ideal conditions.
802.11g = 54mbps max, but again after overheads comes out top at about 35mbps for transfers in ideal conditions, generally though this actually ends up about 20-25mbps.

Shame you cant stream audio/video from these direct to your 360 or I'm sure there would be thousands more people interested in one of these... I would be one of them.
#7
Anarchist
802.11g = 54mbps max, but again after overheads comes out top at about 35mbps for transfers in ideal conditions, generally though this actually ends up about 20-25mbps.
Most NAS can only manage ~5MByte/50mbit anyway though and I suspect this one will be the same. (I have a WD gigabit NAS - the only gigabit part is the network card, the device only has enough power to xfer at around 4.5mbyte :/ )

Shame you cant stream audio/video from these direct to your 360 or I'm sure there would be thousands more people interested in one of these... I would be one of them.

You could always get a xbox1 with xbmc which will do. although you wouldn't be able to stream wmv-hd then (not that there is much of a market for it). I wish MS would allow x264 mkv to be played on the 360, and streamed from a samba drive such as this. never gonna happen though. :/
banned#8
Already have XBMC, but as you've said it doesnt do HD (and never will, just doesnt have the power for it).

Can't see MS opening it up either tbh, how else would they shift MCE? :\
#9
It's a very good deal for a NAS. But, you have to ask if that is really what you want.

As others have said, the transfer rates are going to be limited by your network's sustained transfer rate (as a rule of thumb, take the speed, halve it, halve it again). The other limitation is the speed of the drive.

Typically, a NAS will run RAID - to give recovery in case of failure, but, also to improve the read/write speed.

This appears to be only the one drive. It would appear that you can add more USB drives. But, I'm guessing there is no RAID capability.

Adding heat, because this is a good price for a small NAS - if you just require a little shared storage between computers in your environment, and don't want to have run a PC as a 24/7 server, then this may be for you.

But, it's not for me. I'd want to be able to run RAID, have hot-swappable HDDs, and have the option of NTFS. But, I'm going to have to pay a lot more than £70 to get that!!
#10
Quick question..how does this show up on a computer? Using a MacBook Pro and this'd be really handy for keeping all my music on, rather than having to have a hard drive plugged into the mains next to the laptop. Going through iTunes if that's any help.
#11
Adamo
Quick question..how does this show up on a computer? Using a MacBook Pro and this'd be really handy for keeping all my music on, rather than having to have a hard drive plugged into the mains next to the laptop. Going through iTunes if that's any help.


You'd setup a SMB/CIFS share on the NAS (it probably already has one though, that you could just move files to), which you would connect to (and probably then then mount to a drive if you wished).

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106471 seems to give some info on it (never setup any networking stuff on a mac so I couldn't tell you exactly what to do).
#12
Does anyone know if you can remove the drive and replace it with a higher capacity one ?

For you Xbox user using XBMC I currently am using a Apple Airport Extreme N router. This device allows you to connect a usb hard drive to it (or as many as you want by using a usb hub). It works a treat since I have all my films available and I can easily grow the system as required.
#13
[FONT="Arial Black"][SIZE="2"]:-( [/SIZE][/FONT]Poor reviews on Amazon site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#14
Someone is selling the empty cases on fleabay as DIY kits, so it looks like you could use a bigger HDD.

As welshworrier says above, these (250GB) are on sale in Staples at £49.91.

I have other Smartdisk stuff and it's of excellent quality, but NAS isn't for everyone.
#15
Those Amazon reviews aren't really very helpful.

The FAT32/4GB file limit thing is VERY common on low-end NAS units - basically because they run a cut-down version of Linux and it doesn't have a reliable access mechanism for NTFS. Let's face it tho, 4Gb is a BIG file and apart from DVD ISOs, it's not something you're going to notice...

The guy whining about having to return it to the US is an idiot who doesn't understand the UK Sale of Goods Act - if it fails within 6 months Amazon (or anywhere else trading the UK) have to replace it (or prove YOU broke it) - after that you only have to prove it's faulty within it's 'reasonable lifetime' and they STILL have to replace it :)

I've no idea why people are talking about wireless speeds either - this device needs a wired connection and thus will be near-as-dammit-as-quick as an HDD in your PC - whether you share files over wireless after that point or not makes no difference to this.

Except you don't have to leave your PC on for other people to access the files (which is 100% the point of NAS devices!!)

802.11G is easily quick enough to stream MP3s, DIVX etc. tho (802.11b would just-about manage this too!) - so for the £50 Staples are asking, this is a very cheap NAS unit - cheaper that a DIY kit + HDD from eBay even!!
#16
therealjohnpeat
The FAT32/4GB file limit thing is VERY common on low-end NAS units - basically because they run a cut-down version of Linux and it doesn't have a reliable access mechanism for NTFS. Let's face it tho, 4Gb is a BIG file and apart from DVD ISOs, it's not something you're going to notice...
DVD ISOS's, Broadcast TS's, WMV-HD, MKV, BR-ISO. there are more and more files over 4gb these days. formatting it to ext2 should allow you to use >4gb files though.

I've no idea why people are talking about wireless speeds either - this device needs a wired connection and thus will be near-as-dammit-as-quick as an HDD in your PC - whether you share files over wireless after that point or not makes no difference to this.
A) because most people would be connecting it to a wireless router
&
B) show me one (commercial) NAS thats anywhere near as quick as a hd in your pc. not a single one is even close. Most are around 4-6mbyte/sec - better ones 10-13mbyte (and this isn't going to be one of the better ones - for a start it's only 100mbit - thats a max speed of ~10mbyte/sec after overheads. if your local drives are that slow then they need seeing to).

To get that type of performance you really need to be building your own, setting the drives up as raid in a system able to withstand saturating a good quality gigabit nic.

For the price though (£50, not £70) this will be a good buy for streaming media but no good for backups or anything that you want to do quickly.
#17
Deleted User Name 3
DVD ISOS's, Broadcast TS's, WMV-HD, MKV, BR-ISO. there are more and more files over 4gb these days. formatting it to ext2 should allow you to use >4gb files though.


A) because most people would be connecting it to a wireless router
&
B) show me one (commercial) NAS thats anywhere near as quick as a hd in your pc. not a single one is even close. Most are around 4-6mbyte/sec - better ones 10-13mbyte (and this isn't going to be one of the better ones - for a start it's only 100mbit - thats a max speed of ~10mbyte/sec after overheads. if your local drives are that slow then they need seeing to).

To get that type of performance you really need to be building your own, setting the drives up as raid in a system able to withstand saturating a good quality gigabit nic.

For the price though (£50, not £70) this will be a good buy for streaming media but no good for backups or anything that you want to do quickly.


I have a western digital NAS which i use for all my movies & mp3s to stream via wired network to my XBOX Media Centre. this enables me to watch all my american ahem tv shows on my tv without any of the rigmoral of wifi stream. Anyone trying to stream media files except mp3s over a wireless network must have the patience of a saint.

Admitted the NAS is not a good way to do back ups, but then if you have data that is sensitive enough to b e regurlarly backed up then you would need / afford a RAID back up.....
#18
aty
Does anyone know if you can remove the drive and replace it with a higher capacity one ?

For you Xbox user using XBMC I currently am using a Apple Airport Extreme N router. This device allows you to connect a usb hard drive to it (or as many as you want by using a usb hub). It works a treat since I have all my films available and I can easily grow the system as required.

To be honest, that's probably more akin to my needs, just going to research it, make sure ADSL is fine, differing laptops and an Xbox too!
#19
Deleted User Name 3

A) because most people would be connecting it to a wireless router
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B) show me one (commercial) NAS thats anywhere near as quick as a hd in your pc.

The wireless bit is still irrelevant to the NAS - if wireless is too slow for streaming from the NAS it will be too slow for streaming from your internal HDD or whatever else too - wireless is not the issue here.

I've not really tested NAS's against internal discs - but I'm fairly sure that when you look at people's PCs (with 2 HDDs at most and often only 1) the other activity on the PC will easily slow access to that disc most of the time anyway.

I have XBMC running downstairs here - streaming Divx files over an 802.11B (old iBook used as a wireless 'relay') and it works for 80% of files just fine - the remainder will stutter a bit but for the most part, it's fine - so 802.11G will FLY for that sort of content (and mp3s etc.).

If you're trying to stream hidef content of course - that's not going to work so well - but if you have a nice HD telly and access to high-quality hd source amterials - you can afford better than a £50 NAS!!!!
#20
Indeed, you'd certainly stream from a PC instead?
#21
I have one of these and they are excellent when hooked up to an xbox1 running xbmc. Initially I had my NAS hard cabled into the adsl router, and my 3 xbox's in the house were streaming from it wirelessley, however I found it to be struggling a little to stream....it was ok on regular divx, but I use mostly HR AC3_5.1 Divx which is just about on the limit of my wifi connection (3 floors down) , so I ended up installing a network switch downstairs, hooking the nas drive up to it, along with 2 xbox's and a wireless bridge, so I am now streaming wired off the NAS drive without any problems, but loading thongs onto it does take some time, probably about 20 minutes to send over 800mb. I have a 3AM batch job that copies over any new .avi files, so the transfer time doesnt really concern me that much.
#22
could you format this with macdrive to get over the 4gb issue?
#23
Decentbloke
Someone is selling the empty cases on fleabay as DIY kits, so it looks like you could use a bigger HDD.

As welshworrier says above, these (250GB) are on sale in Staples at £49.91.

I have other Smartdisk stuff and it's of excellent quality, but NAS isn't for everyone.



Thanks for the info :thumbsup:
#24
Can't find it at staples. Any chance of a product number?
Thanks,
Rob
#25
Adamo
To be honest, that's probably more akin to my needs, just going to research it, make sure ADSL is fine, differing laptops and an Xbox too!



You should just need to connect your ADSL modem to the Apple Airport Extreme .

I also forgot to mention you can hang your printer off this as well.
#26
robga
Can't find it at staples. Any chance of a product number?
Thanks,
Rob


From the reciept I've got here:
Smartdisk 250GB Network
0785134009821

Instore only.

They had a couple left in my local branch (Lincoln) and should be able to transfer to other local branches.
#27
cabstar
...without any of the rigmoral of wifi stream...


"rigmarole" :thumbsup:
#28
One question that i would like to ask

Will the xbox 360 see this as a device

At the moment got an usb HDD connected to the xbox 360 but wanted to get a NAS so it is easier to transfer files
#29
cabstar
I have a western digital NAS which i use for all my movies & mp3s to stream via wired network to my XBOX Media Centre.

As do I - I can't stand wireless, not just for streaming media but for anything. Wires can be hidden anyway. =]

Anyone trying to stream media files except mp3s over a wireless network must have the patience of a saint.

I wouldn't say the patience of a saint, but it's certainly slower (lowering the cache in xbmc helps immensely (I setup the same thing for a friend recently and she wanted wireless only - divx is fine as is hr.hdtv divx, albeit slower at starting. DVD vobs are mostly ok, but need to buffer occasionally (dvd max is 9mbit, which in good conditions 801.11g can cope with).


therealjohnpeat
The wireless bit is still irrelevant to the NAS - if wireless is too slow for streaming from the NAS it will be too slow for streaming from your internal HDD or whatever else too - wireless is not the issue here.

Agreed, but there will be people out there who think they can stick this on their wireless router and stream all over their house. what the other guy (sorry, don't remember his name) and I was saying is that probably won't be possible for anything other than low bitrate media. Yes it will affect any item they use, not just a nas.

I've not really tested NAS's against internal discs - but I'm fairly sure that when you look at people's PCs (with 2 HDDs at most and often only 1) the other activity on the PC will easily slow access to that disc most of the time anyway.

If only, even the better commercial nas are far slower than an average pc (even one running the usual spyware you find on most peoples pc).

If you're trying to stream hidef content of course - that's not going to work so well - but if you have a nice HD telly and access to high-quality hd source amterials - you can afford better than a £50 NAS!!!!

Indeed, and as I suggested a DIY nas setup using raid drives will be the ideal solution - you'll get a speed similar to (and better than if you don't run your desktop pc in raid) your PC and it'll be totally futureproof. the problem is that it doesn't look as nice and tidy as a little 3.5" hd sat on a shelf.. :>


Tronads
but loading thongs onto it does take some time, probably about 20 minutes to send over 800mb.

20mins for 800mb does seem a little extreme, I just copied over 700mb on my WD and it took 123 seconds, but I was also streaming a divx to an xbox at the time (although that wouldn't have slowed it down much). I suppose if you are using wireless and your nas is at the other end of the house to the pc then that would be the reason for the slow speeds.
#30
technical questions : with a nas - can you download or seed torrents with your pc turned off??
#31
dave111
technical questions : with a nas - can you download or seed torrents with your pc turned off??

Mostly no. Although there are a few NAS' with torrent clients incorporated.

For that your best bet would probably to get a Linksys NSLU2 and put alternate firmware on it, that will do what you want.
#32
Woohoo Just reserved one, pick it up tonight
#33
I think everybody should have one of these hidden somewhere where thieves won't find it. Then have an automatic backup of their most important files running to this little device. The number of people who complain after the event that the thieves have not only nabbed their PC but the backup devices connected to it ....
#34
Its going back, speeds from it are so slow. Getting around 20k a sec on Vista and Win XP.

Be aware
#35
Rshole
Its going back, speeds from it are so slow. Getting around 20k a sec on Vista and Win XP.


Do you get full speed from other devices on your network? I can't see any manufacturer releasing a NAS with speeds that low (even if it contained a processor equivalent to a calculator with 8mb of ram it should sustain xfers faster than that). I'd imagine that even the worst modern nas could manage 2mbyte/sec minimum. 20k is little better than dialup (ISDN) internet speeds.
#36
Has anyone managed to get these to work with Vista?

Also, has anyone else noticed that Smartdisk don't actually exist anymore as their ASSETS were bought by Verbatim in July? Note that when the term 'ASSETS' is used, it normally means that the company was close to insolvency.

Do the Verbatim drivers work with Vista? Has anyone tried? (Verbatim have brought out a re-badged version of this drive, now with 500GB capacity...surely they must work with Vista???)
#37
Im thinking of getting this from Staples myself, and not concerned about it being FAT32 really, as i will use it for my Music collection. So nothing bigger than 4GB

THOSE WHO HAVE THIS DRIVE, whats the speed like when pluged in to the router? also how noisy is it?

Thanks in advanced :-)
#38
Can now update my last post on this (as I had one in it's sealed box by my desk at the time!!!)

1) It works out of the box with Vista (unlike my old Buffalo LinkStation)

2) I've done three file transfer tests and got 2.6MB/s on a 104MB file and 2.4MB/s TWICE on a 1.14GB Folder (first was from Seagate SATA HDD in PC via 100mbit/s network switch and and the second from a Freecom 350HD NDAS drive via 100mbit/s network switch)

3) It's quiet enough - fan virtually silent and HDD no noisier than, well, a HDD spinning and clicking!!!


This one only cost me £38.91 as I had £11 in Staples Business Rewards vouchers :whistling:

I will probably go and see if they've got another one tomorrow!

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