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Annoyed that I've missed out recently with the previous Comet deals on this camera its finally dropped down again at Wilkinson Cameras , I've not heard of them before but it can be collected from one of their stores in the North or delivery is an extra £6-£10. I'm really tempted except they have the A550 for £399.99.

The Sony A450L, complete with 18-55mm lens lets you experience flawless, detail-packed images, teamed with quick, accurate autofocus and high-speed continuous shooting. The high-resolution CMOS sensor assures detail-packed pictures with excellent contrast and gorgeous colours. The Clear Photo LCD screen gives brilliant colour and detail when you?re framing and viewing shots. Capture fast-moving action or the changing expression of a portrait subject with a continuous burst of images. Speed Priority mode shoots at a lightning-fast 7 frames per second!
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#1
•To benefit from up to £80 cashback call 08456000124
#2
coathanger
•To benefit from up to £80 cashback call 08456000124

Can you give some more info? Is this Sony cashback?
#3
pet2000
coathanger
•To benefit from up to £80 cashback call 08456000124
Can you give some more info? Is this Sony cashback?
It's written on Reevoo but I don't know more than that?
#4
Cashback offer was at Jessops but expired.
#5
Anyone bought this? Any reviews on it?
#6
sid786
Anyone bought this? Any reviews on it?

i think a lot of people bought it when it was same price at Comet, even me : ) Its good you wont get anything like that for this price from Canon or Nikon for sure : )
#7
coathanger
•To benefit from up to £80 cashback call 08456000124

cashback was available when the price was £450
there is no cashback at this price : )) lol
#8
rodman
i think a lot of people bought it when it was same price at Comet, even me : ) Its good you wont get anything like that for this price from Canon or Nikon for sure : )

True, you wont get a body with similar spec from Canon or Nikon. But unless you go for the very expensive professional Carl Zeiss lenses (with Sony mount), Nikon and Canon consumer lenses are better and cheaper.
#9
Not the best mid range camera by a long shot, but at entry level price like this its a bargain.
#10
I bought it at comet price - now it's sold,

Positives: - Light (good for if you're new to DSLRs); sensor produces good images; 7 fps, great for sport

Negatives: - Far too light (if you're upgrading your old DSLR and like your camera to have a quality feel); plasticky, on/off switch in a stupid position, only has manual live view.

i bought it as an upgrade to my A300 and within 2 months of having it i'd bought an A700.

If you're looking for a light slr you can take on holiday and take family shots this is great
#11
Good beginner DSLR. Good price.
#12
At this price, the only real competition is right at the bottom of other manufacturers' SLR ranges, e.g. Canon EOS 1000D, Nikon D3000 and this Sony is way better value than either of those.

Excellent find, heat added.

Edited By: andyken on Oct 23, 2010 08:39: .
#13
andyken
At this price, the only real competition is right at the bottom of other manufacturers' SLR ranges, e.g. Canon EOS 1000D, Nikon D3000 and this Sony is way better value than either of those.

Excellent find, heat added.

It depends what you call good value. It's far better to have a good quality lens than some extra giimicks on the body.
#14
pet2000
rodman
i think a lot of people bought it when it was same price at Comet, even me : ) Its good you wont get anything like that for this price from Canon or Nikon for sure : )

True, you wont get a body with similar spec from Canon or Nikon. But unless you go for the very expensive professional Carl Zeiss lenses (with Sony mount), Nikon and Canon consumer lenses are better and cheaper.


It's not worth spending in the high-hundreds (or even thousands) on lenses [edit: meaning high-hundreds to thousands for 1 lens] to use on an entry level DLSR, regardless of brand. I have an older Sony DSLR and would not touch a Sony branded lens. They are not all worse than Canon/Nikon equivalents though they are not good value for money if bought new (you get the occassional CZ bargain on ebay) but then neither are the really good Canon/Nikon lenses.

Tamron do some very good (and even better value for money) lenses that can be bought with either Sony, Nikon or Canon mounts. The 18-55mm f2.8 is excellent for indoors and outdoors 'walk-around', sport, and everything where you are not wanting to 'zoom in' more than your eye can see. The 55-200mm f4.5-5.6 is amazing value for money for a very-sharp budget (well under £100) mid-zoom.

Also, there are loads of old (1980s+) Minolta lenses on ebay that will fit this Sony, some of which are fantastic lenses. Don't be fooled by age - a 10, 20 or even 30 year old lens may still be really good. Optical tech does not move on as fast as digital camera tech.

As always, if you're thinking about spending circa £300+ on a DSLR then it's worth checking out in a shop (handle it - is it comfortable? Look through viewfinder - can you see everything OK?) because you're probably going to have it for at least a year, maybe several, and be spending a lot more than £300 on kit e.g. lenses, tripod, mem cards, bags to carry kit.


Edited By: loonyjetman on Oct 23, 2010 08:51: see edit in text
#15
Sorry pet2000 but I really don't think you know what you are talking about. Sony offer Image Stabilization within the camera rather than in the lens and I would personally have that rather than no stabilization.

Also there are plenty of cheap second hand Minolta lens on ebay,
#16
pet2000
rodman
i think a lot of people bought it when it was same price at Comet, even me : ) Its good you wont get anything like that for this price from Canon or Nikon for sure : )

True, you wont get a body with similar spec from Canon or Nikon. But unless you go for the very expensive professional Carl Zeiss lenses (with Sony mount), Nikon and Canon consumer lenses are better and cheaper.


Im pretty sure you are not right at all here. You are able to use Minolta lenses with this mount; these lenses are considered to have some of the best colour rendition and overall IQ of the time. Its also widely accepted that Canon kit lenses are pretty poor overall, whereas the Sony kit lenses (In particular the new SAM 18-55mm kit lens) gets superb reviews.
#17
pet2000
andyken
At this price, the only real competition is right at the bottom of other manufacturers' SLR ranges, e.g. Canon EOS 1000D, Nikon D3000 and this Sony is way better value than either of those.

Excellent find, heat added.

It depends what you call good value. It's far better to have a good quality lens than some extra giimicks on the body.


Makes the Canon seem even worse value with its awful lens.
#18
The real issue is whether you want to go Sony for the rest of your life? By the time you've bought another couple of Sony mount lenses, you're kind of sucked in. For this reason, I went for the slightly cheaper Nikon D60 deal when it was on a month ago. http://www.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360299278533 I thought I'd rather be using Nikon long-term.

Was I wrong?



Edited By: GDB2222 on Oct 23, 2010 10:35: asterisks
#19
The Nikon deal gave 10% cashback from Nikon, so really quite a lot less money - 20% less overall.
#20
GDB2222

Was I wrong?

No, all a case of personal preference, and mainly how the camera feels/handles to the individual :)

P.S. As I type. only 38 of the cameras left ;)

Edited By: pipesmoker on Oct 23, 2010 10:40: add camera
#21
GDB2222
The real issue is whether you want to go Sony for the rest of your life? By the time you've bought another couple of Sony mount lenses, you're kind of sucked in. For this reason, I went for the slightly cheaper Nikon D60 deal when it was on a month ago. http://www.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360299278533 I thought I'd rather be using Nikon long-term.

Was I wrong?




That is like saying just because you brought a Ford floor mats you have to drive a Ford for the rest of your life.

The same comment you put above applies if you go Full Frame because most APS-C lens don't work on Full Frame.
#22
elratboyo
I bought it at comet price - now it's sold,

Positives: - Light (good for if you're new to DSLRs); sensor produces good images; 7 fps, great for sport

Negatives: - Far too light (if you're upgrading your old DSLR and like your camera to have a quality feel); plasticky, on/off switch in a stupid position, only has manual live view.

i bought it as an upgrade to my A300 and within 2 months of having it i'd bought an A700.

If you're looking for a light slr you can take on holiday and take family shots this is great


All of the cameras below A5XX aren't really an upgrade to the A300. The A300 is one of the best entry level cameras and little merit given to it (because it was a Jessops exclusive) due to low volume. Many more people seem to have brought either A200 or A350s.

I still have my A300 and can't really find a good camera to replace it with (unless I go full frame) certainly not joining the CanKon camp of fan boys.

Held the new A33 at Jessops and it didn't feel that good (I think they didn't set it up with continuous focus so the EVF was always blurred until you push down half on the shutter release), will wait for the A77. Then either that or going Full Frame.
#23
I have the a100 and a decent selection of old Minolta lenses (50mm prime, beercan, big beercan & others) along with manual focus M42 C Z Flektagon, Pancolar, Tessar & Sonnar. The only trade -up I would consider would be for the a700. Newer models don't feel as good and I personally am not bothered about liveview, and/or hd movie capability (which seems to be the way most new DSLR's are going). Suggest prospective buyers go along to their nearest shop and hold all flavours and read the reviews before committing to buy.
#24
What a bargain. £484 on Amazon! Cheers Mate :p
#25
I too have the A100 and though I've tried the A2xx and A3xx cameras have yet to find one that is worth replacing it with - they were a much under-rated camera. The Sony lenses are hit and miss but the 18-55 in this bundle is well reviewed (certainly better than the old 18-70 that came with my A100). If you are starting in DSLR and have no legacy kit then you could do a lot worse than the Sony range.
#26
To the people who left comments as the "lens experts" above:
The lens is one of the most important part of a camera. If you read lens reviews on dpreview, you will find that the Pentax 18-55 lens comes out best and the Sony 18-55 lens is at the bottom. This bottom position goes for most lenses from Sony ( and Konica/Minolta) except the very expensive Carl Zeiss lenses. Older lenses from Konica/Minolta, which were good for film cameras are not always the best for digital cameras either (this applies to all makes, not just Konica).
I will always buy a DSLR from a particular brand because I want to use their lenses and accessories, there is no other reason. (There are good third party lenses but my first choice would be the makers lenses).

And to the person who says above that I dont know what I am talking about:
I have earned a living with photography for the past 40 years, and have used all kinds of cameras from simple compacts to 4x5 studio cameras (film and digital). So I think I have picked up a few things here and there during my working life and I know a lot about photographic equipment and how to apply them to achieve the best photos.

Anyone who does a proper research will come to this conclusion (as expressed in in my previous comments above)

Edited By: pet2000 on Oct 23, 2010 14:09: spelling
#27
pet2000
To the people who left comments as the "lens experts" above:
The lens is one of the most important part of a camera. If you read lens reviews on dpreview, you will find that the Pentax 18-55 lens comes out best and the Sony 18-55 lens is at the bottom. This bottom position goes for most lenses from Sony ( and Konica/Minolta) except the very expensive Carl Zeiss lenses. Older lenses from Konica/Minolta, which were good for film cameras are not always the best for digital cameras either (this applies to all makes, not just Konica).
I will always buy a DSLR from a particular brand because I want to use their lenses and accessories, there is no other reason. (There are good third party lenses but my first choice would be the makers lenses).

And to the person who says above that I dont know what I am talking about:
I have earned a living with photography for the past 40 years, and have used all kinds of cameras from simple compacts to 4x5 studio cameras (film and digital). So I think I have picked up a few things here and there during my working life and I know a lot about photographic equipment and how to apply them to achieve the best photos.

Anyone who does a proper research will come to this conclusion (as expressed in in my previous comments above)


Too bad so sad we are all just amateurs out of have fun. Dpreview and most other websites also note Sony is out to deliver superior value at same or lower price points in order to capture a greater share of the market. Good enough for the majority of bargain hunters.
#28
Complete noob here i'm wanting to get my first DSLR is this better than the Sony A290 then?
#29
casben
Complete noob here i'm wanting to get my first DSLR is this better than the Sony A290 then?


short answer is yes! - but check out reviews online also
quick comparison website
#30
casben
Complete noob here i'm wanting to get my first DSLR is this better than the Sony A290 then?


Yes it is better than all the A3XX and A2XX models if you are a newbie. For upgraders from A2XX/3XX it isn't much of an upgrade, either go to A5XX or above.
#31
netjock
pet2000
To the people who left comments as the "lens experts" above:
The lens is one of the most important part of a camera. If you read lens reviews on dpreview, you will find that the Pentax 18-55 lens comes out best and the Sony 18-55 lens is at the bottom. This bottom position goes for most lenses from Sony ( and Konica/Minolta) except the very expensive Carl Zeiss lenses. Older lenses from Konica/Minolta, which were good for film cameras are not always the best for digital cameras either (this applies to all makes, not just Konica).
I will always buy a DSLR from a particular brand because I want to use their lenses and accessories, there is no other reason. (There are good third party lenses but my first choice would be the makers lenses).

And to the person who says above that I dont know what I am talking about:
I have earned a living with photography for the past 40 years, and have used all kinds of cameras from simple compacts to 4x5 studio cameras (film and digital). So I think I have picked up a few things here and there during my working life and I know a lot about photographic equipment and how to apply them to achieve the best photos.

Anyone who does a proper research will come to this conclusion (as expressed in in my previous comments above)


Too bad so sad we are all just amateurs out of have fun. Dpreview and most other websites also note Sony is out to deliver superior value at same or lower price points in order to capture a greater share of the market. Good enough for the majority of bargain hunters.

pet2000
To the people who left comments as the "lens experts" above:
The lens is one of the most important part of a camera. If you read lens reviews on dpreview, you will find that the Pentax 18-55 lens comes out best and the Sony 18-55 lens is at the bottom. This bottom position goes for most lenses from Sony ( and Konica/Minolta) except the very expensive Carl Zeiss lenses. Older lenses from Konica/Minolta, which were good for film cameras are not always the best for digital cameras either (this applies to all makes, not just Konica).
I will always buy a DSLR from a particular brand because I want to use their lenses and accessories, there is no other reason. (There are good third party lenses but my first choice would be the makers lenses).

And to the person who says above that I dont know what I am talking about:
I have earned a living with photography for the past 40 years, and have used all kinds of cameras from simple compacts to 4x5 studio cameras (film and digital). So I think I have picked up a few things here and there during my working life and I know a lot about photographic equipment and how to apply them to achieve the best photos.

Anyone who does a proper research will come to this conclusion (as expressed in in my previous comments above)


If I am one of the "lens experts" then please note my emphasis is on good value not what is the best because the camera in this deal is entry-level/budget after all.

"Best" can be defined so many ways not just sharpness, speed, optical abilities (lack of CA, flare etc.) because (as a professional) you will know that the result is the important bit, not what dpreview or anyone else says about a lens. One photographer will find s/he cannot take a good photo with a certain lens that another photographer might take great photos with.

As an amateur who has never made any money from photography I stick with my view of buying lenses to match your budget, your camera and your personal preference. I like to experiment but don't have a pro's budget so being able to buy relatively cheap Minolta lenses on ebay, try them, experiment, learn, adapt, then maybe keep, swap or sell... well it works for me anyway.

I'd love to see some of your work (yes, seriously.) Do you have a website?
#32
Oops, sorry for the double quote above, dunno how I managed that.
#33
I've just taken delivery of this camera and I must say as a noob to DSLR's it's very easy to use and I'm very impressed.

Just a bit dissapointed as I paid £6 p&p for (5-7) days delivery and on the 5th day a Friday they sent it next day delivery, Fed Ex don't deliver Saturdays on this tariff so I had to wait till Monday (8th day!!!!!)

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