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Sony Bravia 65-Inch Android 4K HDR Ultra HD Smart TV (2016 Model) with Youview, Freeview HD, PlayStation Now - Black [Energy Class a] £1,299.00 - Amazon

£1299.00 @ Amazon
Apparently part of early black friday deals from amazon. I can't afford this anyway but I would think this is a decent offer. From amazon: ANDROID TV - Seamless Entertainment, Intelligent Sear… Read More
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8m, 1w agoFound 8 months, 1 week ago
Apparently part of early black friday deals from amazon.

I can't afford this anyway but I would think this is a decent offer.

From amazon:
ANDROID TV - Seamless Entertainment, Intelligent Search. All the personalization, intelligence and entertainment of your smartphone, on the big screen.
The clean and simple stand design adds class to any living space whilst hiding cables from view.
4K High Dynamic Range -Incredible contrast, real-life colours and exceptional 4K detail.
4K X-Reality PRO - Not just 4K. This is SONY 4K. Our unique 4K X-Reality PRO upscale every pixel for remarkable clarity. With Sony 4K, everything you watch is amazingly realistic.
Dynamic Contrast Enhancer - helps to create a vibrant picture with a wider range of peaks and darks.
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Don't buy Sony. They claim light bleed and clouding is normal!

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#1
Noticed this earlier but they don't put the model number anywhere on the ad
#2
Looks to be the Sony KD-65XD7504
#3
SpikedJuice
Looks to be the Sony KD-65XD7504


Says SONY654KTV ?
1 Like #4
OLED is the way to go if you want picture quality
1 Like #5
Ordered this, thanks!
2 Likes #6
Looks great. Lacking in 3D which is a deal breaker for me. But great TV.
2 Likes #7
matedodgy
Looks great. Lacking in 3D which is a deal breaker for me. But great TV.


You use 3D? I bought 3D blu rays etc but could never get on with it, this looks amazing and like the op I wish I could spend this kind of money on a tele but the other half would have me hung up by my you know what's.oO
5 Likes #8
Don't buy Sony. They claim light bleed and clouding is normal!
1 Like #9
this does seem to be the case. I've reported light bleed to them, they seem to think a software update will cure it!
#10
kodi ?
1 Like #11
Snakeyes646
matedodgy
Looks great. Lacking in 3D which is a deal breaker for me. But great TV.


You use 3D? I bought 3D blu rays etc but could never get on with it, this looks amazing and like the op I wish I could spend this kind of money on a tele but the other half would have me hung up by my you know what's.oO


Have you ever tried an active Samsung 3D system? I love mine :)
1 Like #12
Always buy Samsung. But the Androidiness of Sony appeals to me.
#13
nice price and tempting offer but want to wait to see what other TVs go on sale for black friday.
2 Likes #14
I called the church about marrying my oled tv but they put the phone down on me.
1 Like #15
umaradam
OLED is the way to go if you want picture quality


not if your a gamer
1 Like #16
umaradam
OLED is the way to go if you want picture quality


Poop for sports or games
#17
umaradam
OLED is the way to go if you want picture quality

If I hadn't seen so many AMOLED panels with slight burn on phones (Nexus 6/6P and Galaxy S series) I would agree but LCD is more consistent without the pitfalls, and it should be as it's much more mature technology with many more years of R&D behind it. I mean, you shouldn't cause burn on a TV but just having to consider things like watching football and worrying about the scorecard being in the same place each match just bothers me to the point where I'd rather have tried and trusted LCD (IPS or VA).
#18
hoults862
nice price and tempting offer but want to wait to see what other TVs go on sale for black friday.


looking at the stock in our warehouse tesco apparently will have blaupunkt and sharp tvs and might be sharp microwaves
1 Like #19
r simsini
Don't buy Sony. They claim light bleed and clouding is normal!

Whenever I buy a TV, there are only three places I'd buy from, John Lewis, Richer Sounds or Amazon. Obviously Amazon would be third choice here due to warranty. But if I was unhappy with light bleed from a television, you have 14 days cooling off period, I know Amazon's standard returns are 30 days and even then from experience they will still take returns back within first year of purchase. When spending this kind of money on a TV I'd expect it to be perfect. I personally have two Sony's currently and they're perfect
#20
damienace
Ordered this, thanks!


hi can you post the model number when u get it please, thinking of buying it.
1 Like #21
Istanbul_Kop
Always buy Samsung. But the Androidiness of Sony appeals to me.


Yeah, to be honest I'm tempted to get a Sony and sideload Mobdro onto it
1 Like #22
plewis00
umaradam
OLED is the way to go if you want picture quality

If I hadn't seen so many AMOLED panels with slight burn on phones (Nexus 6/6P and Galaxy S series) I would agree but LCD is more consistent without the pitfalls, and it should be as it's much more mature technology with many more years of R&D behind it. I mean, you shouldn't cause burn on a TV but just having to consider things like watching football and worrying about the scorecard being in the same place each match just bothers me to the point where I'd rather have tried and trusted LCD (IPS or VA).


you can't compare phone screens with TVs. do some research, LG have been pouring money into R&D for OLED for years now and have recently spent millions to create the largest OLED factory in the world, resulting in the TV prices coming way more affordable than before. they do have very strict quality standards and as on oled owner and former led and plasma owner there's no issues with viewing sport or gaming on the oled compared to the old technology.
#23
Had a OLED 65 inch. Sent it back. Hardly any difference to my Plasma
#24
SpikedJuice
Looks to be the Sony KD-65XD7504

Confirmed? It says SONY654KTV but that brings up nothing.
#25
only if crushed blacks is your thing
#26
supplyuk
Had a OLED 65 inch. Sent it back. Hardly any difference to my Plasma

Apart from the power consumed..
#27
deeman180
only if crushed blacks is your thing

maybe for trump hmm ;D
#28
1 Like #29
r simsini
Don't buy Sony. They claim light bleed and clouding is normal!
It is normal, you just don't like it, almost all the manufacturers accept a degree of light bleed. That's why you buy somewhere with good returns as light bleed is obvious from day one, just return it and get another one.
#30
supplyuk
Had a OLED 65 inch. Sent it back. Hardly any difference to my Plasma


I've got a voucher for specsavers if you want mate?
#31
smckirdy
r simsini
Don't buy Sony. They claim light bleed and clouding is normal!
It is normal, you just don't like it, almost all the manufacturers accept a degree of light bleed. That's why you buy somewhere with good returns as light bleed is obvious from day one, just return it and get another one.
Light bleed should not be considered normal, otherwise all TVs would suffer from it. There are other faults too, such as unbearable crosstalk on 3D, the TV rebooting itself, the TV losing wifi connection and the TV suffering video drop-outs.

Here's a video of my clouding issue on YouTube...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPqAS2XpRVE
#32
r simsini
smckirdy
r simsini
Don't buy Sony. They claim light bleed and clouding is normal!
It is normal, you just don't like it, almost all the manufacturers accept a degree of light bleed. That's why you buy somewhere with good returns as light bleed is obvious from day one, just return it and get another one.
Light bleed should not be considered normal, otherwise all TVs would suffer from it. There are other faults too, such as unbearable crosstalk on 3D, the TV rebooting itself, the TV losing wifi connection and the TV suffering video drop-outs.

Here's a video of my clouding issue on YouTube...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPqAS2XpRVE






If the backlight isnt set to max then thats really bad, is it the same if you lower the backlight to about 50% of whatever max you have?

If so then thats returnable, get onto where you brought it and get engineers out.
1 Like #33
r simsini
smckirdy
r simsini
Don't buy Sony. They claim light bleed and clouding is normal!
It is normal, you just don't like it, almost all the manufacturers accept a degree of light bleed. That's why you buy somewhere with good returns as light bleed is obvious from day one, just return it and get another one.
Light bleed should not be considered normal, otherwise all TVs would suffer from it. There are other faults too, such as unbearable crosstalk on 3D, the TV rebooting itself, the TV losing wifi connection and the TV suffering video drop-outs.
Here's a video of my clouding issue on YouTube...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPqAS2XpRVE

Except it's a normal part of the manufacturing process, it's almost impossible to eliminate it entirely. The less you pay for the TV the wider the acceptance of things like light bleed.

It's also slightly disengenous with a video as lightbleed shows up far more on camera as you can pick up lightbleed in a camera that is totally invisible with your eyes in normal light.

As I said it's an out the box issue and common to all but the most expensive panels(that are explicitly hand picked). So just send it back and get another, it's Russian roulette regardless of the manufacturer. And this isn't a 3D TV, Sony never did a lot of 3D TVs and now they do even less, and loosing wifi is pretty much par for the course on every TV I've had, Samsungs are the worst for it in my experience, but so far android TVs have been a lot more robust in my experience.
#34
If it's 4K no 3D
#35
I have a 49" Sony Android and I wish I'd bought a Samsung and an android box. It so sluggish and when I turn it off the sound is still heard for about 5-10 seconds
#36
smckirdy
r simsini
smckirdy
r simsini
Don't buy Sony. They claim light bleed and clouding is normal!
It is normal, you just don't like it, almost all the manufacturers accept a degree of light bleed. That's why you buy somewhere with good returns as light bleed is obvious from day one, just return it and get another one.
Light bleed should not be considered normal, otherwise all TVs would suffer from it. There are other faults too, such as unbearable crosstalk on 3D, the TV rebooting itself, the TV losing wifi connection and the TV suffering video drop-outs.
Here's a video of my clouding issue on YouTube...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPqAS2XpRVE

Except it's a normal part of the manufacturing process, it's almost impossible to eliminate it entirely. The less you pay for the TV the wider the acceptance of things like light bleed.

It's also slightly disengenous with a video as lightbleed shows up far more on camera as you can pick up lightbleed in a camera that is totally invisible with your eyes in normal light.

As I said it's an out the box issue and common to all but the most expensive panels(that are explicitly hand picked). So just send it back and get another, it's Russian roulette regardless of the manufacturer. And this isn't a 3D TV, Sony never did a lot of 3D TVs and now they do even less, and loosing wifi is pretty much par for the course on every TV I've had, Samsungs are the worst for it in my experience, but so far android TVs have been a lot more robust in my experience.


It's the worst TV for light bleed/clouding I have ever owned. If you watch any film that is letterboxed, the bars flash different shades of grey depending on what is on screen. It intrudes massively on any dark scene and previous LG and Panasonic models didn't do this. It's worse in HDR mode because the brightness is automatically changed to the maximum to take advantage of the brightness HDR requires.
#37
waynebeetison
r simsini
smckirdy
r simsini
Don't buy Sony. They claim light bleed and clouding is normal!
It is normal, you just don't like it, almost all the manufacturers accept a degree of light bleed. That's why you buy somewhere with good returns as light bleed is obvious from day one, just return it and get another one.
Light bleed should not be considered normal, otherwise all TVs would suffer from it. There are other faults too, such as unbearable crosstalk on 3D, the TV rebooting itself, the TV losing wifi connection and the TV suffering video drop-outs.

Here's a video of my clouding issue on YouTube...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPqAS2XpRVE






If the backlight isnt set to max then thats really bad, is it the same if you lower the backlight to about 50% of whatever max you have?

If so then thats returnable, get onto where you brought it and get engineers out.


The backlight is set to max there as it is in HDR mode. It is still very noticeable with standard content, despite the brightness being set to 5 out of 50.
#38
excellent!! cheers!!
#39
supplyuk
Had a OLED 65 inch. Sent it back. Hardly any difference to my Plasma


Apart from motion issues
#40
r simsini
smckirdy
r simsini
smckirdy
r simsini
Don't buy Sony. They claim light bleed and clouding is normal!
It is normal, you just don't like it, almost all the manufacturers accept a degree of light bleed. That's why you buy somewhere with good returns as light bleed is obvious from day one, just return it and get another one.
Light bleed should not be considered normal, otherwise all TVs would suffer from it. There are other faults too, such as unbearable crosstalk on 3D, the TV rebooting itself, the TV losing wifi connection and the TV suffering video drop-outs.
Here's a video of my clouding issue on YouTube...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPqAS2XpRVE
Except it's a normal part of the manufacturing process, it's almost impossible to eliminate it entirely. The less you pay for the TV the wider the acceptance of things like light bleed.
It's also slightly disengenous with a video as lightbleed shows up far more on camera as you can pick up lightbleed in a camera that is totally invisible with your eyes in normal light.
As I said it's an out the box issue and common to all but the most expensive panels(that are explicitly hand picked). So just send it back and get another, it's Russian roulette regardless of the manufacturer. And this isn't a 3D TV, Sony never did a lot of 3D TVs and now they do even less, and loosing wifi is pretty much par for the course on every TV I've had, Samsungs are the worst for it in my experience, but so far android TVs have been a lot more robust in my experience.
It's the worst TV for light bleed/clouding I have ever owned. If you watch any film that is letterboxed, the bars flash different shades of grey depending on what is on screen. It intrudes massively on any dark scene and previous LG and Panasonic models didn't do this. It's worse in HDR mode because the brightness is automatically changed to the maximum to take advantage of the brightness HDR requires.
It's just luck of the draw mate, LG and Panasonics aren't any different all TVs get light bleed. And in practical terms for panel bleed company is irrelevant as the panels typically aren't in house, one or two companies make panels of certain sizes and then sell them to everyone else. It's worse on newer panels largely because of HDR and increasing size, the higher output of the backlights mean that the limits of the technology and the manufacturing is being hit. It's why they use workarounds so that they can lower the brightness on different areas of the screen to mitigate light bleed.

If you aren't happy with the light bleed get a new TV, take another spin on the LCD panel lottery or just buy a more expensive TV or a smaller one that's less likely to have light bleed at all.

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