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nice little sony camera here and decent price with good megapixel and HD video

12.1 effective megapixels
5x optical zoom Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar lens
720p HD movie recording
Smile Shutter
Face Detection

This price is for the Silver model the black model is £142
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#1
This has very small internal memory I think 11mb if i recall correctly so you will need to get a sony pro duo memory card for your photos/video which I think play have on offer at the mo

Full Spec from the sony.co.uk site can be found here
#2
this price is still around guys, got my camera last week, its great!
#3
The price is good - but the reviews on amazon are quite bad
#5
I have this camera - it's very good. The reviews on Amazon are not really related to the product if you read them. Hot deal I think.
#6
sbfc
The price is good - but the reviews on amazon are quite bad


well tbh the main bad reviews are delivery from amazon...nothing to do with product and one is relating to the memory for the camera. Ok one person said in low light pictures were noisey but show me a camera that wont give you slightly grainy or noisey pictures in low light



thats nice...but it has no relation to this deal

its like saying here is a good price for an Audi

and then someone linking to a Ford Focus model, absolutely pointless.

if you can find this camera cheaper elsewhere then post it up and let the good people of HUKD grab a bargain :)
#7
numptyj
well tbh the main bad reviews are delivery from amazon...nothing to do with product and one is relating to the memory for the camera. Ok one person said in low light pictures were noisey but show me a camera that wont give you slightly grainy or noisey pictures in low light



thats nice...but it has no relation to this deal

its like saying here is a good price for an Audi

and then someone linking to a Ford Focus model, absolutely pointless.

if you can find this camera cheaper elsewhere then post it up and let the good people of HUKD grab a bargain :)





You are correct

They are both point and shoot cameras. But that's where the similarities end.

One is a crap Sony priced for more than an excellent, slimmer, Panasonic. And it's available in a number of colours

It's a no brainer.
#8
ramnee
You are correct

They are both point and shoot cameras. But that's where the similarities end.

One is a crap Sony priced for more than an excellent, slimmer, HD Video enabled Panasonic. And it's available in a number of colours

It's a no brainer.


I wont comment on the Pana cos I havent used it or seen them up side by side...i'm sure you havent either yet you can make such rash comparisons, I would love to have your psychic abilities :)

BTW is this a hotdeal..yes as it cant be found anywhere cheaper...thats how this site works

like ive said before im all for someone posting this camera up at a cheaper price!
#9
numptyj
well tbh the main bad reviews are delivery from amazon...:)


Im sorry i thought you posted an Amazon deal.
1 Like #10
numptyj
This has very small internal memory I think 11mb if i recall correctly so you will need to get a sony pro duo memory card for your photos/video which I think play have on offer at the mo

Full Spec from the sony.co.uk site can be found here

That's correct - buy any Sony camera and you're stuck with expensive MemoryStick memory - avoid Sony for this reason alone. SD/SDHC is pretty much the standard now, widely available for a fraction of the price.

No doubt the camera is OK, like any number of similar compact cameras from a premium brand, but quite frankly it's still much too expensive for what it is. With a budget of £140 there are many really good compact cameras available. This is really poor value.

My first choice would always be a Panasonic; they are a cut above the rest and have really great lenses.
#11
sbfc
Im sorry i thought you posted an Amazon deal.


my bad I read that slightly wrong....on the plus side for amazon i ordered this camera when we had snow and everyone decided to halt to a standstill in Britain, yet my order got delivered exactly on the delivery date it should have.
#12
Agree Besford

NB I do have the Panasonic FP8
#13
Besford


My first choice would always be a Panasonic; they are a cut above the rest and have really great lenses.


Of course, a Carl Zeiss lens is nothing to rave about huh :roll:

The combination of the W class Sony cameras featuring good wideangled Carl Zeiss lenses, good shutter speeds, decent build quality as well as impressive image processing do not make the Sony cameras a bad choice, especially considering that the prices of their proprietary Pro Duo cards have fallen considerably.
#14
ramnee
Agree Besford

NB I do have the Panasonic FP8


Right so you are trying to compare a fixed lens camera with an optical lensed one? :?
#15
cicobuff
Right so you are trying to compare a fixed lens camera with an optical lensed one? :?



now people can't even read the specs properly

I just give up
#16
ramnee
now people can't even read the specs properly

I just give up


Oh yes, I see now, it has folding optics, looked like the usual ultra compact with fixed lens.

Seems we both have been quick to judge without any further research. You spouting Sony are crap without any justification, owned any Sony cameras have you?

Still trying to compare an ultra compact with a regular bodied wider lensed camera with a class leading Carl Zeiss lens is pointless. Especially one that does not have a lens cover on it, no slider, both are crap at higher ISO levels as are many compact or ultra compact cameras.

I think the Lumix FX-60 would be a better comparison.
#17
I have a Sony W series camera, the 7 megapixel W35 - out of a load of digicams and dSLRs I've owned (Canons and Nikons etc) it's been my fave, always take it with me still. All small chip cameras are useless in low light (Noise Ninja helps a bit in post-processing but even so) and the continued manufacturer's obessession with piling on more pixels is a bit dumb imho. The 5 x optical zoom on this is a tempting upgrade from a 3 x, though - but to tell the truth and even though I've not owned this actual model it does seem a little bit pricey, even if it's the best deal currently around.
#18
Shine600
I have a Sony W series camera, the 7 megapixel W35 - out of a load of digicams and dSLRs I've owned (Canons and Nikons etc) it's been my fave, always take it with me still. All small chip cameras are useless in low light (Noise Ninja helps a bit in post-processing but even so) and the continued manufacturer's obessession with piling on more pixels is a bit dumb imho. The 5 x optical zoom on this is a tempting upgrade from a 3 x, though - but to tell the truth and even though I've not owned this actual model it does seem a little bit pricey, even if it's the best deal currently around.


I have the Sony W150 and have taken some decent shots without flash at higher ISO at concerts. I bought mine on clearance whilst in the US worked out at around £90, previously had the old W5 which was a great camera at the time but wanted a better one with image stabilising.

As you state, megapixels mean nowt, its the combination of lens and CCD image sensor that are the most important, this is why I like the Sony cameras, very wide angled Carl Zeiss lenses, good builds and very good CCDs.

Sony have great CCD's hence why Nikon use them in their DSLRs.

You can find cheaper Sony compact cameras that have their own proprietary lenses, but not a comparison to the higher end range that cost considerably more, my advise if you want to stick with Sony is wait until a new model comes out and get a previous W model with Carl Zeiss optics on closeout.
#19
Shine600
I have a Sony W series camera, the 7 megapixel W35 - out of a load of digicams and dSLRs I've owned (Canons and Nikons etc) it's been my fave, always take it with me still. All small chip cameras are useless in low light (Noise Ninja helps a bit in post-processing but even so) and the continued manufacturer's obessession with piling on more pixels is a bit dumb imho. The 5 x optical zoom on this is a tempting upgrade from a 3 x, though - but to tell the truth and even though I've not owned this actual model it does seem a little bit pricey, even if it's the best deal currently around.


thanks for the heads up on the older models, most of the sony cams are pretty solid and offer good picture quality.

In regards to reference of price this camera did retail at about £220 when it first came out, so thats why i posted it and bought one myself.
so it may seem expensive in comparison to other makes etc, but its pretty much top of the W series range, apart from the WX1 which has the Exmor R Sensor which will give much clearer shots in low light conditions, but you will be looking at paying around £215 for one of those so if you want the next level down this camera is it but £75 cheaper
#20
Err

both cameras start at 28mm

The Panny has Leica lens


Yes I have owned (still own) an excellent Sony V1 camera (bought 2003). But I'm afraid Sony went downhill after that brilliant camera.

Have owned the following

Fuji F6800z (broken lens - replaced by Sony V1 in 2003)
Sony V1 (Finally retired, still woking - repaired for free in 2005 [? replaced CCD sensor, there was a recall], replaced by Panasonic FP8)
Canon Ixus ? 30 (yr 2003) - borrowed forever by friend (!)
Panasonic FZ28 (when I don't want to carry the SLR)
Panasonic FP8
Nikon D40 (sold on)
Nikon D5000


Yes Nikon do use Sony sensors, but Nikon actually get the best out of them
#21
cicobuff
Right so you are trying to compare a fixed lens camera with an optical lensed one? :?

What does that mean? All lenses are optical.
#22
el cheapo cameras have digital zoom instead of optical

(typically will advertise high zoom - not from major manufacturers)

NB never use digital zoom in camera
#23
ramnee
el cheapo cameras have digital zoom instead of optical

(typically will advertise high zoom - not from major manufacturers)

NB never use digital zoom in camera


Why? Will my head explode? i'll damn well use it if i want to!
#24
no all your teeth will fall out
#25
numptyj
thanks for the heads up on the older models, most of the sony cams are pretty solid and offer good picture quality.

In regards to reference of price this camera did retail at about £220 when it first came out, so thats why i posted it and bought one myself.
so it may seem expensive in comparison to other makes etc, but its pretty much top of the W series range, apart from the WX1 which has the Exmor R Sensor which will give much clearer shots in low light conditions, but you will be looking at paying around £215 for one of those so if you want the next level down this camera is it but £75 cheaper


With regards to comparison, taking into account the Panasonic Lumix, the FX40 or FX60 which this truly is comparible with in terms of specification and retail price, both come in as more expensive than this, personally I think for the class of camera currently £140 is a fair price.
#26
numptyj;7571030
thats nice...but it has no relation to this deal

its like saying here is a good price for an Audi

and then someone linking to a Ford Focus model, absolutely pointless.


That is perhaps the worst (and ill informed) analogy I've read on here for a long time, you then have a go at some one else for making 'rash comparisons' You are indeed a true 'Numpty'.
1 Like #27
ramnee
Err

both cameras start at 28mm

The Panny has Leica lens


Yes I have owned (still own) an excellent Sony V1 camera (bought 2003). But I'm afraid Sony went downhill after that brilliant camera.

Have owned the following

Fuji F6800z (broken lens - replaced by Sony V1 in 2003)
Sony V1 (Finally retired, still woking - repaired for free in 2005 [? replaced CCD sensor, there was a recall], replaced by Panasonic FP8)
Canon Ixus ? 30 (yr 2003) - borrowed forever by friend (!)
Panasonic FZ28 (when I don't want to carry the SLR)
Panasonic FP8
Nikon D40 (sold on)
Nikon D5000


Yes Nikon do use Sony sensors, but Nikon actually get the best out of them


Why do you keep banging on about your so called excellent ultra compact FP8, just because YOU think its a better alternative doesn't mean others do, especially considering and I quote your reasoning being "They are both point and shoot cameras. But that's where the similarities end. One is a crap Sony priced for more than an excellent, slimmer, Panasonic. And it's available in a number of colours. It's a no brainer."

Well that reasoning means NOTHING, Sony may be crap in your reasoning, but why as I have stated compare it to an ultra compact camera in the FP8. Yes its slimmer, but does that make it a better choice ?!!! Its not even comparing it to the same class of camera :thinking:

As I have stated, either the FX40 or FX60 if you want to keep banging on about Panasonic would be worthy competitors to the Sony W270, and I think you will find those cameras not being ultra compact cameras are not slimmer than the W270. (In fact Panasonic have not changed their body shell in compact cameras for 6 years!) If you wanted to compare the equivalent to the FP8 then if this was a deal on the DSC-T90 it would have been relevant!

Not everyone wants what you do, especially when you are not comparing like for like, if someone wants an ultra compact they would buy an ultra compact.

Find a comparable price on an FX40 or FX60 and then you may have something to compare this camera to.

With regards to Nikon, I disagree, at least at the budget DSLR range, the Sony A200 or A230 at their price points trounce on the D40 for bang for buck and are worthy rivals to the D60.
#28
cicobuff
Why do you keep banging on about your so called excellent ultra compact FP8, just because YOU think its a better alternative doesn't mean others do, especially considering and I quote your reasoning being "They are both point and shoot cameras. But that's where the similarities end. One is a crap Sony priced for more than an excellent, slimmer, Panasonic. And it's available in a number of colours. It's a no brainer."

Well that reasoning means NOTHING, Sony may be crap in your reasoning, but why as I have stated compare it to an ultra compact camera in the FP8. Yes its slimmer, but does that make it a better choice ?!!! Its not even comparing it to the same class of camera :thinking:

As I have stated, either the FX40 or FX60 if you want to keep banging on about Panasonic would be worthy competitors to the Sony W270, and I think you will find those cameras not being ultra compact cameras are not slimmer than the W270. (In fact Panasonic have not changed their body shell in compact cameras for 6 years!) If you wanted to compare the equivalent to the FP8 then if this was a deal on the DSC-T90 it would have been relevant!

Not everyone wants what you do, especially when you are not comparing like for like, if someone wants an ultra compact they would buy an ultra compact.

Find a comparable price on an FX40 or FX60 and then you may have something to compare this camera to.

With regards to Nikon, I disagree, at least at the budget DSLR range, the Sony A200 or A230 at their price points trounce on the D40 for bang for buck and are worthy rivals to the D60.


+1 thats the kinda thing I was goin for with my audi/ford focus reference but perhaps my analogy was a bit lame lol
#29
numptyj
+1 thats the kinda thing I was goin for with my audi/ford focus reference but perhaps my analogy was a bit lame lol


Thats ok, and that person who called you a numpty for your analogy has not got a clue clearly that that person was trying to compare apples and oranges.

For that price the W270, whilst having some short comings on image quality over previous Sony models, in comparison to other mid-high range compact cameras is good value, a fair review of it can be found here :

http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com/equipment/reviews/compactcameras/1179/1/sony-cyber-shot-w270-review.html

In comparison, the Panasonic FX60 wins slightly on image quality, but not on value.

http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com/equipment/reviews/compactcameras/127548/1/panasonic-lumix-fx60-review.html

Same with a comparible Nikon S620, which offers a weaker 4X optical zoom, and has slightly better image quality, but not as good value.

http://www.whatdigitalcamera.com/equipment/reviews/compactcameras/26450/1/nikon-coolpix-s620-review.html

With roughly the same RRP of £240, once again taking into account the value, bang for buck the Sony W270 at £140 compared to £180-£200 for the FX60 and S620 its all down to preference and if you can live without the slight advantage of image quality the dated design of the FX60 offers, the W270 offers better value, the Sony comes in at 84% and the Panasonic at 85%. with the Nikon S620 at 86%.
#30
If it makes you feels better, then the Sony is the best camera ever.
#31
ramnee
If it makes you feels better, then the Sony is the best camera ever.


Do you actually R E A D, it certainly is not comparable to the FP8 :roll: , lets get this clear, Sony are not crap (as you so bluntly put it without explanation), Panasonic are not crap, Nikon are not crap, Canon are not crap etc etc. All those manufacturers over the years have released some great cameras, they also all have released some not so great cameras...sometimes they get it wrong with so called technological advances.

Compared to some of Sonys previous cameras, the image quality on the W270 is not as strong, if the Panasonic FX60 could be found at £140 it would be a worthy competitor with improved image quality, and for that I could understand your post in this thread.

Banging on that the W270 is crap and the FP8 is much better, slimmer, blahdeblah (as I have said before like a record needle stuck in the groove to make you understand), is irrelevant.

http://www.photographyblog.com/images/sized/images/uploads/panasonic_lumix_dmc_fp8-534x400.jpg
+

http://nycsunflower.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/sony_cyber_shot_dsc_t_90.jpg

= comparable cameras
#32
just keep banging on

FFS both are Point and Shoot cameras
#33
ramnee
just keep banging on

FFS both are Point and Shoot cameras


:roll: Don't like to admit you are wrong do you?!!!! They are not the same point and shoot cameras are they, you said the Sony W270 was crap compared to the much smaller excellent FP8, how many more times do you need to read that its comparing TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT CLASSES OF CAMERA. Of course ultra compacts are smaller, they are ultra compacts :roll: It's spamming this thread, as I said I could understand if you had an offer on the Panasonic FX60 in comparison, but it wasn't!

Ok another visual perhaps this time you will understand......

http://1001noisycameras.typepad.com/.a/6a00e554f882e98834010536b2cbc8970b-800wi

+

http://i00.twenga.com/foto-camcorder/digitalkameras/panasonic-lumix-dmc-fx60eg-s-p_541066vb.png

= Same class of comparable cameras.
#34
grow up

and learn what it means when you say class of camera

as I said, the sony is the best camera ever made
#35
ramnee
grow up

and learn what it means when you say class of camera

as I said, the sony is the best camera ever made


I think you are the one that needs to grow up, not liking to admit you are wrong, ultra compacts have smaller CCD's than regular compacts, they are not the same class of camera, and do not perform as well at higher ISO (not that regular compacts high ISO quality is anything to rage about, but so) The advantage of Ultra Compacts is they are incredibly pocketable

As I said, trolling this thread comparing a FP8 to a W270 is pointless, I suppose you also think your FP8 is better than the Panasonic FX60 as its smaller and cheaper :whistling: surely to you its a no brainer ;-)
#37


Yes generally ultra compacts do have smaller CCD's than regular compacts, and yes the FP8 is a good price if you want an ultra compact, if you don't want an ultra compact which this thread isn't about, its not a bargain, I suggest it would be more constructive to actually post (if you haven't already) the FP8 as a HUKD.

If ultra compacts performed the same as regular compacts, there would be no need for the two lines from any of the camera manufacturers.
#38
so far everything you said, comparing the two have been inaccurate.

but please please don't be so naive.

" If ultra compacts performed the same as regular compacts, there would be no need for the two lines from any of the camera manufacturers "

their only aim is to sell more and make profit
#39
ramnee
so far everything you said, comparing the two have been inaccurate.

but please please don't be so naive.

" If ultra compacts performed the same as regular compacts, there would be no need for the two lines from any of the camera manufacturers "

their only aim is to sell more and make profit


Right, well if thats your opinion then I suggest you troll every thread when anyone posts a deal on a Compact Camera and say its crap compared to your FP8 then :roll:

As said, I think you will find it would be far more constructive posting a deal on your FP8 which is an excellent price for the type of camera it is.
#40
Fine , let's agree to disagree

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