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Sony Xperia X10 - Available on T-mobile

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The long awaited Sony Xperia X10 finally makes it debut onT-mobile! Still not available in store, online only at present and can take upto 10 days to receive. Variety of price plans, but the one… Read More
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7y, 2m agoFound 7 years, 2 months ago
The long awaited Sony Xperia X10 finally makes it debut onT-mobile!

Still not available in store, online only at present and can take upto 10 days to receive.

Variety of price plans, but the one they seem to be pushing is £35 per months for 24 months and with that you get a FREE phone, 900 minutes, 500 texts, Unlimited internted and a free "Flexible booster" of your choice.

Same tariff on 18 months will set you back £122 for the phone.

The best 18 month deal with the handset being cheaper is £40 a month for 1200 minutes, 500 texts, Unlimted internet and a free "Flexible booster". The handset will cost you £18.

Go via quidco and earn yourself £35 cashback.

No release dates for the other networks as yet. O2 reckon it will be the 5th April. but are not sure.
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#1
So is this cheaper than elsewhere or what?
#2
I think SE have this priced too high. This is their first android phone and it is running an old version. It also is coming out in competition with the Nexus one and the HTC desire, both of which are highly billed, well reviewed and totally up to date. More over, the desire is dramatically cheaper. I don't honestly see why anyone would go for the X10 at this stage. Had it been comparable to the Desire, I suspect a lot of people might see it differently.
banned#3
I guess that SE are relying heavily on brand loyalty, and with the amount of people I see with C905's and the like I think they can get away with it.
#4
dagbladet
So is this cheaper than elsewhere or what?


This is the only network that has it available at present. Still awaiting release dates from O2 and Orange.
#5
talksalot81
I think SE have this priced too high. This is their first android phone and it is running an old version. It also is coming out in competition with the Nexus one and the HTC desire, both of which are highly billed, well reviewed and totally up to date. More over, the desire is dramatically cheaper. I don't honestly see why anyone would go for the X10 at this stage. Had it been comparable to the Desire, I suspect a lot of people might see it differently.


From what ive been reading about the phone, SE will release the updated android version as a download.

Ive been ready for an upgrade for the past 2 months, but after lots of reading I narrowed my choice down to this and the Iphone. From looking into the two, this is definatly the handset I want to go for. Watching the videos of it in action it looks pretty amazining.
#6
spoke with o2 and they have said its available from the 5 april, don't know the costs tho yet
#7
powerful_Rogue
From what ive been reading about the phone, SE will release the updated android version as a download.

Ive been ready for an upgrade for the past 2 months, but after lots of reading I narrowed my choice down to this and the Iphone. From looking into the two, this is definatly the handset I want to go for. Watching the videos of it in action it looks pretty amazining.


Agreed. Been waiting to upgrade for 2 months and it is between this or the Iphone. I'm on O2 tho. Gonna have to wait a little longer!!
#8
Interested Rogue and JediX why you've narrowed it down to only the X10 or iPhone?

Why not the Hero, Legend, Desire (all HTC) or Motorola Milestone?

Surely they are all better supported and are on 2.1 now (given SE are releasing a new phone on 1.6 now, it could be a good wait before they offer a 2.1 upgrade).

The only advantage I see for the X10 is a better quality camera; although, if that matters to you then unsure why you're considering the iPhone since it's camera isn't anything to write home about!
#9
I think the only reason I was considering the iphone was because its available now. I really hate waiting! The other half has the the HTC G2 and from having a play around with it I think android is superb.

The X10 has a lot of great features, and although it only comes with android 1.6 to start with, I look at it that when it does get updated o 2.1 it will be like having a new phone with extra features!

I also like the screen size, great for when im travelling, can put a few movies on there.
#10
JediX
Agreed. Been waiting to upgrade for 2 months and it is between this or the Iphone. I'm on O2 tho. Gonna have to wait a little longer!!


O2 here as well. Was told 29th March a few weeks ago, then on Monday they said they had no idea as it wasnt on there list. Phoned my local store yesterday and she said its released on the 29th, they should be stocking it on the 5th April.

Always find it worrying when all the other networks have it on their website, except o2.
#11
powerful_Rogue
From what ive been reading about the phone, SE will release the updated android version as a download.

Ive been ready for an upgrade for the past 2 months, but after lots of reading I narrowed my choice down to this and the Iphone. From looking into the two, this is definatly the handset I want to go for. Watching the videos of it in action it looks pretty amazining.


I realise that they have said that there is an update to come, but when? SE have been shown highly unreliable when it comes to their scheduling of hardware and software. I would really like to get this phone because you can be relatively confident that the camera and media player will beat the competition. However, it would worry me that it could be 6 months before that update even looks to be real...
#12
Voted hot for the heads up but I'm going to stick with my desire order.
#13
There hasn't been a reason to own a SE phone for about 2 years. This doesn't change anything.
#14
Fatal Exception
There hasn't been a reason to own a SE phone for about 2 years. This doesn't change anything.


Wouldn't agree with you there. Their 'standard' phones are excellent, it's just their Smartphones that are a let-down.

Support wise it just doesn't make sense for them to have phones on so many formats - Windows Mobile, Android, Symbian, their own OS (and recently read they were considering others as well!). Can't they just make their mind up and get it right?
#15
adam.mt
Wouldn't agree with you there. Their 'standard' phones are excellent, it's just their Smartphones that are a let-down.

Support wise it just doesn't make sense for them to have phones on so many formats - Windows Mobile, Android, Symbian, their own OS (and recently read they were considering others as well!). Can't they just make their mind up and get it right?


Isn't that the same for many of the manufacturers? I think that Apple set the bar very high and companies like SE or Nokia, who were resting on their laurels, suddenly found that they were years behind. Then the unwillingness to innovate (as opposed to replying on their previously successful systems) has just left them out in the cold. HTC could probably say that their success is largely down to the complacent approach of the other giants. Had Nokia and SE been keeping their eye on the ball, HTC would likely have remained much smaller and Apple wouldn't have 'nabbed' so much of the market.
#16
Hmmm, Just started looking at the HTC Desire now. Cant really find a site which compares the X10 and the Desire side by side, but I think I might have to go back to the drawing board!

Wasnt so bad with the old 12 month contracts! But now when your stuck with a phone for almost 2 years youve gotta get it right!
#17
From what I have read, the X10 has a better camera and is supported by a company who, inspite of their shortcomings, almost always do camera and media well. The Desire is less likely to wow in this regard but will be up to date and makes use of the tried and trusted Sense UI. If the two cost the same, I'd try the X10...
#18
my last 2 phones have SE and honestly i wont ever get another, software wise gran althought this android, which is what i'll go for in my next phone
while both have been mid to low range phones and dont compare to this, ive have too many problems with them hardware wise to forgive SE
last phone was the 890i

not voted either way
#19
hope its more reliable than the w705i i got !!

the first 3 went back within 2 weeks of purchase , and this one has been back to be repaired twice,

Never get a SE again !!!
banned#20
jimonyzangs
my last 2 phones have SE and honestly i wont ever get another, software wise gran althought this android, which is what i'll go for in my next phone
while both have been mid to low range phones and dont compare to this, ive have too many problems with them hardware wise to forgive SE
last phone was the 890i

not voted either way


I know what you mean about SE hardware problems, I had SIX C905's, it wasn't like it was all the same fault either, microphone malfunction, button breakage.....

Think it would be best to wait til the phone has been out for a while and see people are saying and maybe cheaper price plans.
#21
Hot,
definitely considering this along with the desire and legend.
Once it gets the 2.1 update I think this will seal it. My o2 contract is up in May so i'll start looking in April. Nice one :)
#22
cbrpaul
hope its more reliable than the w705i i got !!

the first 3 went back within 2 weeks of purchase , and this one has been back to be repaired twice,

Never get a SE again !!!


I've had the 800i and th 902 over the past 3 years and no problems at all, not like my previous Samsungs and Nokias. Luck of the draw?
#23
just my own comments on SE products...

I've had the X1 for about 15 months and although I was happy with it for the 1st year (good looking phone, windows mobile was good (since I haven't used an android or iphone properly before), freedom to install your own apps (although not many available), and no one else seems to have the same phone as you), however one thing I do find with SE phone is that they don't last long! my phone is having problems all the time. after about 7 months the back of the battery cover start falling off and i had to use a blue tak to stick it in place. and now after 12 months the battery seems to only last for 0.5 day (and thats standby time, worse if i start using it for internet/calls)!!! yes i had to recharge constantly (in the office and at home), its just not a "mobile" phone anymore. (and yes i am sure i don't have any other programs running cause i reboot it alot).:x

remember the above comments are for the xperia X1 and not for the X10. I do hope X10 has a lot better build. but judging by the fact that out of my last 4 phones, 3 of them were SE, and none of them can last till the end of the contract (problems with the phone build with all of them). I struggle to want to buy a SE phone anymore, especially on anything more than an 12 month contract cause they don't last long!

right now i m just hoping for the htc desire or the iphone 4g...(however somehow i don't trust htc very well because X1 was supposed to be built by htc for SE)
#24
i guess the contract is ok as they go, assuming a sim only version costs £15 a month, then this phone will cost you (35-15)*24 = £480 over the 2 years.

Pretty much the same price that I paid for my nexus one without a contract.

If you don't like the phone just sell it after a year and get a new one.

Personally I think the X10 is a bit outdated now as they took too long releasing it. My previous two phones were SE's, and they were very solid devices that could take a beating, but as they ran UIQ they were very slow.

New phones use glass based capacitive displays which are much more fragile :S
#25
Still waiting for V2 software on my Hero....(unlocked but on O2)
#26
I think the dailaphone deal is better, i think it was 900mins, unlimited text, 6 month half price , still 24 monther though!
#27
Just been reading a lot of articles about the t-mobile release and they all state the x10 comes with android 2.1 and not 1.6.
#28
Be careful with Sony Ericcson. I friend of mine works for O2 and he said SE have firmware problems and hardware issues. The least reliable of all the phones he sells. The SE Satio launch was a disaster, the phone was useless for the first few months. SE have fixed the firmware issues now, but I still see plenty of people complaining about the phone. I have a SE W760i, just after a year of use it started locking up then completely crashing and the screen going crazy. So I reflashed firmware to the phone. This lasted a week before the Menu button, number 5 key and down volume key stopped working. I couldn't put the phone in phone mode to do a repair and the phone was effectively useless. I tried the phone on numerous occasions to make it work again, so I thought I must have got it wet and that's why the keys stopped working. I still managed to use it as an mp3. A couple of days ago it started working again!. So it must have been a software fault causing the buttons not to respond. Since this phone is so new I'd want to wait a while until I saw how people were getting on with the phone. It if turns out to be as bad as the Satio for firmware issues then it would be a dog of a phone.
#29
+Larger screen than almost any device on the market
+Depending on where you read, 1.3Ghz or 1Ghz chip
+Great camera
+Fully integrated skin
+2.1 update incoming
-SE's first Android phone
-Battery life
-Not getting 2.1 right away
-Expensive
-Long delays in bringing this to market might be reflected in software support for bugs etc.
#30
mrew42
I've had the 800i and th 902 over the past 3 years and no problems at all, not like my previous Samsungs and Nokias. Luck of the draw?



fishmaster
Be careful with Sony Ericcson. I friend of mine works for O2 and he said SE have firmware problems and hardware issues. The least reliable of all the phones he sells. The SE Satio launch was a disaster, the phone was useless for the first few months. SE have fixed the firmware issues now, but I still see plenty of people complaining about the phone. I have a SE W760i, just after a year of use it started locking up then completely crashing and the screen going crazy. So I reflashed firmware to the phone. This lasted a week before the Menu button, number 5 key and down volume key stopped working. I couldn't put the phone in phone mode to do a repair and the phone was effectively useless. I tried the phone on numerous occasions to make it work again, so I thought I must have got it wet and that's why the keys stopped working. I still managed to use it as an mp3. A couple of days ago it started working again!. So it must have been a software fault causing the buttons not to respond. Since this phone is so new I'd want to wait a while until I saw how people were getting on with the phone. It if turns out to be as bad as the Satio for firmware issues then it would be a dog of a phone.


Guess its not down to " luck of the draw " then, i think SE,s are crap !!
#31
I was ummming and ahing as to whether to go for a X10 or a Desire and went for the Desire yesterday after doing a load of reading up on the net, the reviews of the SE didn't seem as favorable as the HTC.and def put off by the fact the X10 was on 1.6 made me concerned they woudn't be keeping up todate with any later releases post 2.1. Kinda felt HTC seem a bit more on the ball and the phone looked a bit more solid. I also watch a demo of the X10 and the touch keyboard seem to be doing some weird things which the reviewer couldn't explain ! Didn't install too much confidence.

Anyway hope I've made the right decision with the Desire as I've had SE's for the last 10 years or so.
#32
talksalot81
Isn't that the same for many of the manufacturers? I think that Apple set the bar very high and companies like SE or Nokia, who were resting on their laurels, suddenly found that they were years behind. Then the unwillingness to innovate (as opposed to replying on their previously successful systems) has just left them out in the cold. HTC could probably say that their success is largely down to the complacent approach of the other giants. Had Nokia and SE been keeping their eye on the ball, HTC would likely have remained much smaller and Apple wouldn't have 'nabbed' so much of the market.


The success of the iphone was down to it's interface implementation and Apple's marketing. The hardware implementation has always been underspec and poor in my opinion. Also it did have some software based quirks. I bought a 2G when they first came out and you couldn't do simple things such as transfer files over Bluetooth. This was added in later firmware updates. You still can't multitask on the iphone, it's rumoured version 4.0 of the firmware will add multitasking. Apple's 'innovation' was multitouch, and the idea of multitouch has been around almost 30 years. Apple didn't invent multitouch they just bought the existing technology from some one else, and were the first to successfully market it to the masses. I believe Apple used technology invented by people such as Jeff Hann. This technology can be seen in videos on youtube that predate the iphone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcKqyn-gUbY

Apple don't really innovate they just recognise what works for the consumer and how to market it. They might well fail with the ipad though, we'll see.
#33
I'm told 29th March on Orange and 8th April on Voda.

I'm very tempted to get this phone, I wanted the Nexus 1 but it still doesn't seem to be happening over here without buying direct from the states.
I'm not really likening the home screen on the Sony if I'm honest. I don't want to see every communication I've had with contacts, it could get embarrassing anyway if someone's flicking through your handset. lol
Loving the Android though, Desire probably better for me?
#34
the porter
if it wasnt for apples innovation the notebook and phone market would not be where it was today


Rubbish. It was Asus who brought the netbook market alive with the Asus eeepc. ED : Sorry just noticed you said notebook :) As far as I can see Apple's innovation was their design in terms of notebooks, if you can class that as innovative. If you class innovation as buying some one else's intellectual property and marketing it then yes that is innovation. I concede that the iphone had the best GUI on the market, and it took things to another level, but it wasn't innovation it was clever marketing and use of existing technology. Apple was the first company to bring effective multitouch to the market, they didn't invent it, they just realised it's potential. Then everyone jumped on the multitouch bandwagon, even suggesting the desktop pc would be utilising it en masse in the future. The disadvantages of this are obvious (tired arms!). Mutitouch works extremely well for portable devices and interactive information displays etc.
#35
Croftybaby
I'm told 29th March on Orange and 8th April on Voda.

I'm very tempted to get this phone, I wanted the Nexus 1 but it still doesn't seem to be happening over here without buying direct from the states.
I'm not really likening the home screen on the Sony if I'm honest. I don't want to see every communication I've had with contacts, it could get embarrassing anyway if someone's flicking through your handset. lol
Loving the Android though, Desire probably better for me?


The HTC Desire is a Nexus One essentially.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/16/htc-desire-your-nexus-one-with-sense-and-flash-has-arrived/

http://gizmodo.com/5472642/htc-desire-a-premium-nexus-one-without-the-google
#36
Having owned 2 of the latest HTC devices for the last 2 years. I personally would avoid getting the Sony X10, untill there are some solid reviews out for it. If you check all the pre production videos on youtube as posted by reputable magazines such as "stuff". You will find that the phone is quite slow with the implementation of getting all the feeds from various sources in chronological order - cannot remember what its called.
I also think this is not necessary.

HTC have been in the android market from day one and have perfected there design and also addressed issues that previous users have experienced.

If you are after the X10 - I would wait - another 2 weeks until some solid reviews are out are not going to hurt.
Major advantage over iphone for both the HTC or Sony - is that a saving of around £10 per month can be had for the same contract.
p.s. I own a blackberry so I am quite partial!:thumbsup:
#37
True, I had a K810i a few years back and loved it, after I went with a Nokia because even after 11 months Sony's phones just hadn't moved on. They were the same only with more (pointless) Megapixels on the camera to eat up your memory card space.

I now own a Nexus One, I think I'm in love.
#38
i persoannly dont need 900 mins, so vodafone offers 600 mins for £35 pm for 18 month and i think thats a goof deal
#39
adam.mt

The only advantage I see for the X10 is a better quality camera; although, if that matters to you then unsure why you're considering the iPhone since it's camera isn't anything to write home about!


Beware with SE phones though.. The 12MP (satio i think) one they launched last year was so terrible, that CPW had to offer people with contracts new phones.. (buggy firmware) Which has hopefully changed..
#40
this looks great. im a bit of a sony fan....had lots of their phones.

however, unless they've turned over a new leaf their firmware updates will be atrocious.

next year, when the general level of android is 4 or 5 or 6....i can almost guarantee that SE will be 2 behind. things they said they will fix will not be fixed and features that are added will be ones that no-one wanted anyway.

buy this phone if you want some sweet, unique hardware and are comfortable with downloading custom firmware and you'll have a great phone. if not you'll just end up frustrated.

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