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The Aspire M3802 £479.12 @ Ebuyer

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Product Description The Aspire M3802 sports a striking glossy black exterior that will add a touch of class to any room of your house. What's more, this desktop packs a powerful processor, top-leve…
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7y, 1m agoFound 7 years, 1 month ago
Product Description

The Aspire M3802 sports a striking glossy black exterior that will add a touch of class to any room of your house. What's more, this desktop packs a powerful processor, top-level graphics and a host of practical features to fulfill all of your entertainment and everyday computing needs.
Rock the house!
Watch the latest Blu-ray movies with true theater-like imagery and sound via Optimized 3rd Generation Dolby Home Theater®, 7.1-channel high-definition audio, an optical S/PDIF support, and HDMI connectivity.
Superb power
A choice of the latest quad-core or dual-core processors, up to 6 GB of DDR2 memory, and second-generation PCI Express® deliver beautiful entertainment and efficient multitasking. A multi-in-1 card reader and 10 USB ports make it easy to manipulate and share your files.



Processor
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 2.50GHz
4MB L2 Cache
Intel® G43 Express Chipset
Memory
6GB DDR2 800MHz
Expandable to 8GB
4 x DIMM slot
Hard Drive
750GB
Optical Drive
Blu-Ray / DVDRW Combo
Software
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Acer Arcade Deluxe
Acer eRecovery Management
Adobe® Reader®
eSobi
McAfee® Internet Security Suite 2009 Trial
Microsoft® Office 2007 Trial with Microsoft® Works
MyWinLocker®
Nero Essentials
Oberon GameZone
Display
Monitor Not Included
Graphics
Intel® GMA X4500 up to 1024MB
Intel® Dynamic Video Memory Technology 5.0
Intel® DVMT 5.0) support
Microsoft® DirectX® 10 support
Audio
No Speakers
Embedded high-definition audio with 7.1-channel surround sound support
S/PDIF (Sony/Philips Digital Interface) support
Input Devices
Value keyboard & optical mouse
Networking
No Wireless Lan
Gigabit Ethernet Wake on LAN ready
Power Supply
330W PSU
Interfaces
Front:
Four USB 2.0 ports
Multi-in-1 card reader
High-definition headphone and microphone jacks
Rear:
Four USB 2.0 ports
IEEE 1394 port (6-pin)
PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports
Ethernet (RJ-45) port
Six audio ports
D-Sub VGA port
HDMI port
S/PDIF module:
Optical S/PDIF port
Two USB 2.0 ports
Expansion
PCI Express® 2.0 x16 slot
PCI Express® 2.0 x1 slot
Two PCI v2.3 (5 V) slots
Warranty
1 Year Manufacturer Warranty
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#1
top level graphics ???? Intel® GMA X4500, I doubt you will be able to play any decent games with that (unless minesweeper is your idea of a decent game). I suspect you could possibly bulid something better with that price (this is includes getting a decent graphics card so you can actually play games). Overall it seems ok but you would need to spend extra and get a dedicated graphics card and also Windows 7 (assume its 32-Bit) only makes use of 3GB of RAM, the other 3GB would be redundent unless you install Win 7 64-Bit or Windows Server.

If I am wrong, please feel free to correct (no rudeness please)
#2
Not good.

* Poor onboard graphics will not be powerful enough for 1080p BlueRay playback. And you can forget about gaming...
* Low-powered power supply will need to be replaced before buying a decent graphics card
* Slow RAM

But they do include Adobe Reader, which makes up for it ...
#3
Like I said you could build something better, may cost you a bit more but at least you will have a decent base unit !
#4
You could easily build something far far better for less, but then again you could buy a better complete system for less!
#5
thecresta
You could easily build something far far better for less, but then again you could buy a better complete system for less!


I'd be interested in your build costs as a direct comparison to this unit regardless of OB graphics and include the OS?

Or a base unit like for like with this? Not trying to be rude and I know this lacks a graphics card but a replacement PS is not that expensive.

Just being inquisitive...........so can you? include the OS too please?

Thx :)

renagade27
#6
Good challange, Im not sure I could do better but I reckon other people could !! I would like to see the outcome of this :)
#7
renagade27
I'd be interested in your build costs as a direct comparison to this unit regardless of OB graphics and include the OS?

Or a base unit like for like with this? Not trying to be rude and I know this lacks a graphics card but a replacement PS is not that expensive.

Just being inquisitive...........so can you? include the OS too please?

Thx :)

renagade27


I built this the other day:

AMD Phenom 955 X4 II BE 955 3.2GHz - £120
4GB DDR3-1333 - £60
650W Antec Truepower PSU - £75
Coolermaster Elite case - £25
Windows 7 Home Premuim 64bit - £50 (Upgrade, admittedly)
Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB - £40
Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H (with onboard ATI HD 4200) - £65
DVD-RW - £12
Total: under £450 (including delivery costs - and no fleabay in sight :thumbsup:)

And some of the above could be cut-down (eg a 400W+ PSU, cheaper case, cheaper processor) to get the price closer to £400 but still above the spec of the Acer PC.

Add any extras (eg: £40 BR Drive upgrade...) and you could get a far better system that can actually play BlueRays and a fair few games for well under £500.

And if you like you can overclock it to be even faster, yet still completely stable. Mine is now a 3.6GHz Quad with 1400+ RAM and upped the onboard graphics from 500MHz to 650MHz, with no effort at all (if you use the free software included with the mobo). And it's getting faster every day ;-)

But you'd have to download Adobe Reader yourself. Ouch. :whistling:

Or you could look at this, which I consider to be a better pre-built option:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/593341/quad-core-intel-4gb-ram-1tb-hd-ati-?p=7703285
#8
thecresta
I built this the other day:

AMD Phenom 955 X4 II BE 955 3.2GHz - £120
4GB DDR3-1333 - £60
650W Antec Truepower PSU - £75
Coolermaster Elite case - £25
Windows 7 Home Premuim 64bit - £50 (Upgrade, admittedly)
Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB - £40
Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H (with onboard ATI HD 4200) - £65
DVD-RW - £12
Total: under £450 (including delivery costs - and no fleabay in sight :thumbsup:)

And some of the above could be cut-down (eg a 400W+ PSU, cheaper case, cheaper processor) to get the price closer to £400 but still above the spec of the Acer PC.

Add any extras (eg: £40 BR Drive upgrade...) and you could get a far better system that can actually play BlueRays and a fair few games for well under £500.

And if you like you can overclock it to be even faster, yet still completely stable. Mine is now a 3.6GHz Quad with 1400+ RAM and upped the onboard graphics from 500MHz to 650MHz, with no effort at all (if you use the free software included with the mobo). And it's getting faster every day ;-)

But you'd have to download Adobe Reader yourself. Ouch. :whistling:

Or you could look at this, which I consider to be a better pre-built option:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/593341/quad-core-intel-4gb-ram-1tb-hd-ati-?p=7703285


That Acer has a inter quad core not AMD! and it has 6gb ram.....................not 4gb. Its close but it isn't any better and doesn't include a card reader, the Acer has 1 and a few other bits. Thanks for getting back but I think I rather have the Acer (or the other) and change the PS and fit a graphics card mate...........less hassle and the Acer is a cracking unit with the INTEL against AMD. IMHO but each to there own and that. :roll:


renagade27
#9
renagade27
That Acer has a inter quad core not AMD! and it has 6gb ram.....................not 4gb. Its close but it isn't any better and doesn't include a card reader, the Acer has 1 and a few other bits. Thanks for getting back but I think I rather have the Acer (or the other) and change the PS and fit a graphics card mate...........less hassle and the Acer is a cracking unit with the INTEL against AMD. IMHO but each to there own and that. :roll:
renagade27


Don't agree I'm afraid...

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Intel Quad 8300: 3564
AMD X4 II 955: 3855

With plenty of cheaper AMD Phenoms inbetween.

I'd rather have 4GB of fast DDR3-10666 RAM than the old DDR2-6400 RAM in this PC - which will reduce the systems performance.

Also Can you see yourself using the extra 2GB? My RAM usage very rarely ever goes above 2GB, even when doing video encoding and the like!

Card reader - £4.59 - http://www.microwarehouse.co.uk/catalogue/item/A0479209

The only other extras the Acer provides are bloated software and trial versions that you'll never install, and if you do you'll never use, and a 'value' wired keyboard and mouse that you can pick up for under £10 at most places.

As for it not being any better... :o
#10
thecresta
Don't agree I'm afraid...

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Intel Quad 8300: 3564
AMD X4 II 955: 3855

With plenty of cheaper AMD Phenoms inbetween.

I'd rather have 4GB of fast DDR3-10666 RAM than the old DDR2-6400 RAM in this PC - which will reduce the systems performance.

Also Can you see yourself using the extra 2GB? My RAM usage very rarely ever goes above 2GB, even when doing video encoding and the like!

Card reader - £4.59 - http://www.microwarehouse.co.uk/catalogue/item/A0479209

The only other extras the Acer provides are bloated software and trial versions that you'll never install, and if you do you'll never use, and a 'value' wired keyboard and mouse that you can pick up for under £10 at most places.

As for it not being any better... :o


If points make you happy and really matter (Size is everything after all) then you go for the build jobby!! I would probably go for a base already made up like this but not specifically this unit.

Bloatware can be removed. And the comfort of just taking it out the box ready then plugging it in and away you go........ is the way I'd go, could not be a$rsed with the build, time, things going wrong, how fast is it really, who cares REALLY!!! :thinking::):roll:

I think agree to disagree is the end result here.

renagade27
#11
renagade27
I would probably go for a base already made up like this but not specifically this unit.


Which is surely the whole point of our discussion? I'm refering to THIS PC, not another PC you may find. You can buy cheaper and better pre-built PCs than this - as I originally said!:roll:

renagade27
And the comfort of just taking it out the box ready then plugging it in and away you go........ is the way I'd go, could not be a$rsed with the build, time, things going wrong, how fast is it really, who cares REALLY!!! :thinking::):roll:.


I completely agree, I'm happy to do that too. But this PC is a not a hot deal!

And before you disagree - you posted the same PC on here last week for £80 less!

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/540740/acer-aspire-m3802-desktop-pc-core-2

At that price, yes, it would have been a far more attractive purchase.

renagade27
Bloatware can be removed. .


I know that - you were the one referring to them earlier as 'extras'! :thinking:

renagade27
If points make you happy and really matter (Size is everything after all) then you go for the build jobby!!


'Points' do matter - whats the point in paying far more for a slower and less functional PC? My build is not only faster and cheaper but it corrects the inherent problems with this PC - appawling GPU that cant do BluRay or games, a PSU that's not good enough for the decent graphics card that you would need to buy, and slow RAM that will prove to be a bottleneck.

renagade27
I think agree to disagree is the end result here.


Yes, I agree to disagree - with you. You're putting across an incoherent and fruitless argument. I just hope people don't buy this PC based on your poor knowledge and judgement.
#12
AMD x4 620-£65
Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H (with onboard ATI HD 4200) - £65.
Corsair HX 450-£52
4 gb Gskill-£80.
Win 7 64 oem-£75
1tb Sammy-£62.
Case, take your pick-£35.
DVD drive-£15

£449..........for a good lil rig that scales well even at stock volts.

Still change left over for a decent sink for quieter operation, plus the bonus of modular supply and a board that doesn't have a crippled bios.

Could shave up to £50 off the above with slightly lesser parts, eg, non-modular supply and cheaper ram.

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