TOPTOY DSTT with 2gb card for Nintendo DS $19.12 (approx £11) @ dealextreme - HotUKDeals
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This is the cheapest I have ever seen this with the 2gb card and this is apparently the new version (which I know nothing about admittedly!)

For this price it is an absolute bargain!!!
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#1
some people have been saying it's the fake one, doesn't really matter if it works though.
#2
might pick one up for the missus, bargain, especially with shipping
banned#3
And seeing how the Morrisons offer finished today you could add this too?

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/242708/guitar-hero-controller-for-nds-lite
#4
Just bought one - £11 (ish) - Xmas present number 1 done :)
#5
As has been said apparently these cards are fake, the supposedly real new ones, in packaging you pictured are out of stock.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15613

(although just noticed stock in in four days !)

They arent bad if you want a fake but take my advice and get an Edge card,
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.10919

the makers of Top Toy DS claim they will be able to fry these with their next firmware update (although I highly doubt it) and some people report them frying Memory cards

Anyway voted cold, WAIT FOUR DAYS FOR THE REAL ONES
#6
not new version just new packaging but nice price voted hot
#7
Cracking deal!!
Great cards.
Just bought another 3 & guitar hero:thumbsup:
#8
just been on and got just the DSTT for £6! not bothered about the memory cards as i can get them about the same price & real
#9
comicmankev
Is it a silly question to ask where the best place to download the 'ahem' homebrew from?


Have sent you a PM
#10
Mind boggles, just how cheap can these things get ? Free with your corn flakes next?
#11
Hi while this thead is running can someone offer me some advice, i have just bought a DS lite for my son, I have been told to get an R4 card, is this what i am looking for , Can someone please tell me the best cheapest one i need to get , do i need 2 items a R4 and and SD:) As you can tell i have no idea.
banned#12
Hi sj475. Ive gone for the firecard which you can get from dealextreme and is pretty easy to set. Theres plenty of info on the net about them and no need for a sd card.
#13
sj475
Hi while this thead is running can someone offer me some advice, i have just bought a DS lite for my son, I have been told to get an R4 card, is this what i am looking for , Can someone please tell me the best cheapest one i need to get , do i need 2 items a R4 and and SD:) As you can tell i have no idea.


This deal would give you all you need, it's like an R4 but many say it's better, this deal gives you the memory card and the equivalent of the R4 so you are ready to go.
#14
Abvance
some people have been saying it's the fake one, doesn't really matter if it works though.

[SIZE="5"]No, the DSTT team are making a new firmware that can brick fake DSTT cards, making them useless and possibly damaging the microSD too[/SIZE]
http://www.ndstt.com/english/anti_fake_en.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww2St8fpZXU
#15
Abvance;2969096
some people have been saying it's the fake one, doesn't really matter if it works though.

not sure where you heard that, bought mine and my sons from dealextreme several months ago, no problems with it since
#16
Meangreenie;2970684
Mind boggles, just how cheap can these things get ? Free with your corn flakes next?


well my in laws are from hong kong and they say the torches dealextreme sell for $5.99, cost them about 10p to make (they can bought in HK for less than 50p) oh and similar ones are £15-25 here...lol!
#17
Stuff like this they must be making a loss on though...

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1887

About 60p which includes P&P to UK, the P&P alone must cost them more than £1
#18
royals
not sure where you heard that, bought mine and my sons from dealextreme several months ago, no problems with it since


As copyright law in china is pretty lax, manufacturers cash in on the success of each other by faking a popular brand rather than selling it under their own label, the fake cards look virtually the same, but the circuit inside is not identical so the original manufacturer could in theory write a firmware download that stops the fakes working.

http://ndstt.com/english/anti_fake_en.htm
#19
Good luck, I really do hope that people ordering these dont get fake ones, especially if the software update you put on it kills it. (as stated by DSTT)

I wouldnt risk it tbh..

Not sure any deals to these on dealextreme should be allowed here either, no real way of telling if they are fake stock till someone gets one.. yes i bet they will work as they should, but fakes are fakes, clones are clones and are classed as counterfeit products.
#20
hmmm the pirates get pirated, oh the irony

for the money who cares if these are fake so long as they work

so what if TopToy get around to making a more secure firmware (which BTW I suspect is more huff and puff than anything else) which can easily be avoided by not updating anyway.
banned#21
posted by gavin on the other dstt thread

GAVINLEWISHUKD
Well my input on the whole fake v real situation.

1) The fake/new cart has a far better design than the original and better thermal dispersion properties.

2) The makers of the real cart cant make software to make fake/new cart overheat. Its not possible. The two 5 volt inputs use the same pins on all carts which will work between 4.8v and 5.2v. The maximum voltage output on a nds is 5.2v.

3) The only problem that you may have is the pin 3 output (data return). Voltage sent down this pin back to your nds will blow the fuse on your nds. It may be possible for the makers of the old cart to force voltage down pin 3 which will blow the fuse in your nds. This may or may not be possible as I cant get a spec for the cart I cant test this. This is the problem that affects the N5 cart, not due to malicious software but a design error.

4) Now you are going to ask why they used pin 3 on the new carts and not the old ones? The simple answer is that at the time when the original and R4 and others were designed no games used the data return pin so didnt bother including it as it looked like it would never be used. But when guitar hero was announced is was to use the data return pin and it now seems like nintendo is encouraging developers to use this to help stop the use of the carts.

5) So what should you do? Well as the only way they can (possibly) damage your nds (which can be sorted it you know what you are doing) is by sending voltage via pin 3 then block out pin 3. I have done this with a very small sliver of masking tape. Make sure you press it down well to make sure it doesn't come off in your nds. Also dont use anything metal like a knife to press it down as you may transfer static from yourself and damage your cart.

So my thoughts are that the new cart is made by the same people as the old one and the little gold dot was in fact put there deliberately. It has no usage apart from to identify it. If they are copies then why would they have included it? I suspect the reason is so that they can clear the old carts that may soon become obsolete. Then when all the old stock has gone from the entire distribution network they will remove the gold dot from the manufacturing process and the fake/new ones will become the new old ones! This last bit is just my thoughts and not fact so please make up your own mind
#22
I will say this once again, with all the fake cr*p that Dealextreme puts out, and counterfeit goods, please Moderators BAN DealExtreme deals from this site.

This "deal"was only posted a couple of days ago and had been spammed and expired like this one, wished people would stop cluttering up this site with such ****.

WARNING FAKE SLOT 1 DS SOLUTIONS CAN ACTUALLY DAMAGE YOUR DS LITE.

As I stated on the last expired thread, go to the official websites, look at the resellers and BUY from there.
#23
cicobuff
WARNING FAKE SLOT 1 DS SOLUTIONS CAN ACTUALLY DAMAGE YOUR DS LITE.


I'd love to see any proof of this, as the only slot 1 card that has ever been known to brick a ds was the N5, not a fake card. I do know about some dodgy shops that rebadged the N5's as R4's (they use the same menu), but still these were not really 'fake' cards. Anyway, the N5 issues are now fixed (it was a manufacturing fault), and even if an N5 did 'brick' your ds, it was an easy fix to get it going again.

You can buy originals, fakes, clones - they all do pretty much the same thing. As most of these cards are manufactured in chinese sweat shops and are very much 'grey' products, you never really know what you are getting - even from 'official' resellers. As long as it works, does it really matter if it's a fake/clone?

I have a Cyclo DS, but my missus has an EDGE which is a complete rip off of the Cyclo, but works a treat!! I wouldn't hesitate to recommend!
#24
dbm001
I'd love to see any proof of this, as the only slot 1 card that has ever been known to brick a ds was the N5, not a fake card. I do know about some dodgy shops that rebadged the N5's as R4's (they use the same menu), but still these were not really 'fake' cards. Anyway, the N5 issues are now fixed (it was a manufacturing fault), and even if an N5 did 'brick' your ds, it was an easy fix to get it going again.

You can buy originals, fakes, clones - they all do pretty much the same thing. As most of these cards are manufactured in chinese sweat shops and are very much 'grey' products, you never really know what you are getting - even from 'official' resellers. As long as it works, does it really matter if it's a fake/clone?

I have a Cyclo DS, but my missus has an EDGE which is a complete rip off of the Cyclo, but works a treat!! I wouldn't hesitate to recommend!


Ok, yes all these are made in china, but you fail to acknowledge one thing....how a knock off can be a lot cheaper than an original from an authorised reseller. Look at fake Wiikeys for one, poor construction, poor contacts for soldering.

Yes they may do pretty much the same thing, albeit in construction. Personally I would sooner trust an original Slot 1 card, and original Wii Mod Chips and I would sooner trust original memory cards, and original Wii Controllers all of whick FAKES have been posted on HUKDs from DealExtreme.

Ask yourself this question...WHY are fakes manufactured of anything? Because there is demand for the product, doesn't matter if it is a device used for homebrew/piracy or a product from a large manufacturer.

Then you have to ask how how can they make them cheaper and why not market them as their own devices?. Poorer construction, cheaper electronic components to maximise profits, and dishonesty in marketing the product as something they are NOT.
banned#25
cicobuff
Yes they may do pretty much the same thing, albeit in construction.
...

Then you have to ask how how can they make them cheaper and why not market them as their own devices?. Poorer construction, cheaper electronic components to maximise profits


Except the fake DSTTs are of a higher quality than the originals.

http://xs230.xs.to/xs230/08341/fakett02865.jpg

Take a fake and original apart and it is clear to see which is the "poorer constructed" card.
#26
Sonne
Except the fake DSTTs are of a higher quality than the originals.

http://xs230.xs.to/xs230/08341/fakett02865.jpg

Take a fake and original apart and it is clear to see which is the "poorer constructed" card.



Well the fake one there is the one with the J2 on the circuit board and has one less chip, one not branded Sharp and less resistors, and the card slot doesn't have a stamp and looks cheaper construction too, so your point being?!?!

Peeps over at this thread have received fakes from DealExtreme, amongs others I posted links to on the last "Fake DSTT" deal only a few days ago.

http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=101724&st=15
Yet here we still have people trying to defend sh*t, knock yourself out, buy them.
#27
Hi i am confused now, if there is a risk of Dealextreme selling fake then i wont bother , but can anyone advise a seller where i can get a good cheap original
#28
sj475
Hi i am confused now, if there is a risk of Dealextreme selling fake then i wont bother , but can anyone advise a seller where i can get a good cheap original



As I posted on the other deal just a few days ago, your first port of call should be the manufacturers website of any Slot 1 solution, they list resellers...if the resellers then sell fakes, well then they are removed from the manufacturers website clearly. The world doesn't end with fake DSTT, there are other slot 1 solutions out there. R4, CycloDS, Super Card, M3, Edge, Acekard.

I would not like to post where to purchase from though, I don't personally want any comebacks saying "i was wrong", trusted suppliers change, choose your card, google some forums and educate yourself in making a trusted decision that way, thats my advice.
#29
Sonne
Except the fake DSTTs are of a higher quality than the originals.

http://xs230.xs.to/xs230/08341/fakett02865.jpg

Take a fake and original apart and it is clear to see which is the "poorer constructed" card.


By looking at the pics, the one on the right is easily the better built and tidier than the other.
#30
DudeyGeeza
By looking at the pics, the one on the right is easily the better built and tidier than the other.


Tidier, but why better built? has less components and resistors, cheaper chipset and a cheaper Mini SD card slot.
#31
cicobuff
Tidier, but why better built? has less components and resistors, cheaper chipset and a cheaper Mini SD card slot.


oh i'm definatly not in favour of promoting these fakes dude, but from those pics, the tidier one will produce less noise on the IC's so therefore is better built. Funny that the "real" ones look so bodged together..

I wouldnt buy a fake after seeing the video, anyone that does is just playing with fire and will more than likely get burnt!
banned#32
cicobuff
Well the fake one there is the one with the J2 on the circuit board and has one less chip, one not branded Sharp and less resistors, and the card slot doesn't have a stamp and looks cheaper construction too, so your point being?!?!
My point is obviously that the fake is better constructed. It's not rocket-science.

Look at the PCB, it's of a far higher quality. If you think resistors = quality then I pity you. I've got some scart leads with 75k r's in if you want to buy them; so much better than the ones without. ;-p

The DSTT is low quality junk, the fake is low quality junk. If I was to pay for such junk I'd rather pay £7 for it than £20.


Yet here we still have people trying to defend sh*t, knock yourself out, buy them.

Yep - people defending original DSTT's, which are clearly "sh*t" as you say.


cicobuff
Tidier, but why better built? has less components and resistors, cheaper chipset and a cheaper Mini SD card slot.

Cheaper card slot? are you making this up? You should be on stage. ;-) Have you ever had any proto's built by asian factories? after a while you get a feel for which are higher quality than others, and after seeing both original and fake DSTT's in real life I'd call them both cheaply manufactured junk; with the fakes being slightly better put together.
#33
Sonne
My point is obviously that the fake is better constructed. It's not rocket-science.

Look at the PCB, it's of a far higher quality. If you think resistors = quality then I pity you. I've got some scart leads with 75k r's in if you want to buy them; so much better than the ones without. ;-p

The DSTT is low quality junk, the fake is low quality junk. If I was to pay for such junk I'd rather pay £7 for it than £20.



Yep - people defending original DSTT's, which are clearly "sh*t" as you say.



Cheaper card slot? are you making this up? You should be on stage. ;-) Have you ever had any proto's built by asian factories? after a while you get a feel for which are higher quality than others, and after seeing both original and fake DSTT's in real life I'd call them both cheaply manufactured junk; with the fakes being slightly better put together.


Interesting, seeing you know so much about both the fake and original DSTT's, do you know why the clone is better constructed besides the tidier looking PCB? As I stated it doesn't have a branded chip, and any reason why it has less resistors? Better voltage design? Not saying that more resistors = quality, just want to know why, and how people are reporting that the fake ones have broke whereas the originals have been fine.

I personally own a R4 and don't really give a hoot about buying one of these fake or not, but it would be interesting knowing why the ones that the fake ones are so called better manufactured albeit still poor construction and yet failing. Is this to do with the fact they don't have the Sharp Chip? Would be interesting reporting your findings for would be buyers on here.

Have you taken any more Slot 1 cards apart from other manufacturers? If so what is the best quality constructed Slot 1 card out there?
#34
After seeing this deal and reading the thread, I did some research on the fake vs not fake thing. There seem no conclusions either way. The fake card could easily appear identical to the real card to the software running on it, but that's not to say that the original equipment manufacturer won't find a way in the future to detect the fake card and run something like this:

http://wiki.pocketheaven.com/DS_Bricker

In the end I considered it not worth the risk and bought an Edge card (£12.99 delivered from an Amazon seller, "digicamworld").
#35
cicobuff
and how people are reporting that the fake ones have broke whereas the originals have been fine.


I haven't read many of the forums, only one or two, but I haven't seen anyone reporting that the so called "Fake" cards have broken. I have only seen people going into a tail spin after reading rumours on the interweb.

I personally have returned probably about 5 of the old ones out of maybe about 12 purchased.

They suffered from the problem of the contacts not connecting properly. It is a common problem with the DSTT.

The new cards can't be any less reliable than the old ones.
#36
thesaint
I haven't read many of the forums, only one or two, but I haven't seen anyone reporting that the so called "Fake" cards have broken. I have only seen people going into a tail spin after reading rumours on the interweb.

I personally have returned probably about 5 of the old ones out of maybe about 12 purchased.

They suffered from the problem of the contacts not connecting properly. It is a common problem with the DSTT.

The new cards can't be any less reliable than the old ones.


So really it looks like poor manufacturing full stop and people are better investing in another Slot 1 Solution rather than a DSTT.
#37
Hi guys have recently bought a couple of DSTT carts from dealextreme, when they arrived found out according to DSTT web site that the ones sent to me are FAKE because of the gold dot, i emailed dealextreme and have just received this interesting email back from them.

Apologize to bring you such confusion on DSTT cards.

We are just feed backed by the supplier that the DSTT Company has separated into two parts.

One of them still keep on producing DSTT, they make DSTT cards themselves and to distinguish from the original one, they mark all of them with a gold dot.

And another factory has already stopped production of DSTT, but they still own some stock of original cards. So as for them to sell out all of stock quickly, they therefore stated that the new DSTT cards with gold dot is a fake one..

As you might know, we sell DSTT cards not for a short time, and it’s impossible for us to take a risk to sell you the fake product to ruin our name. After testing you will find that the DSTT Cards with gold dot can also satisfy you on the quantity and function. They are also from the original factory and they can do what DSTT ever do.

Thanks for your understanding.
#38
GQ Man
Hi guys have recently bought a couple of DSTT carts from dealextreme, when they arrived found out according to DSTT web site that the ones sent to me are FAKE because of the gold dot, i emailed dealextreme and have just received this interesting email back from them.

Apologize to bring you such confusion on DSTT cards.

We are just feed backed by the supplier that the DSTT Company has separated into two parts.

One of them still keep on producing DSTT, they make DSTT cards themselves and to distinguish from the original one, they mark all of them with a gold dot.

And another factory has already stopped production of DSTT, but they still own some stock of original cards. So as for them to sell out all of stock quickly, they therefore stated that the new DSTT cards with gold dot is a fake one..

As you might know, we sell DSTT cards not for a short time, and it’s impossible for us to take a risk to sell you the fake product to ruin our name. After testing you will find that the DSTT Cards with gold dot can also satisfy you on the quantity and function. They are also from the original factory and they can do what DSTT ever do.

Thanks for your understanding.


Great, email that to the DSTT people see what they say about it.
banned#39
Just received mine, the one just in pack nothing else with it, it does not have any of the make markings
banned#40
Unbelievable. How do they get away with this

http://www.ndsgamestore.com/?gclid=CLPd78Kv5pUCFSAbEAodTTGLeQ

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