Toshiba Camileo S10 1080p High Definition Camcorder - Only £94.40 @ Amazon - HotUKDeals
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Just bought this from Amazon, have been looking for days to get the best price and this is the lowest i could find.

Looks liek a great little HD Camcorder and hopefully will be a great Xmas present.

RRP is 129.99 but i was able to get a 16GB SDHC card and spare battery for £123 all from Amazon.

Technical Details

* Product Description: Toshiba Camileo S10 - camcorder - flash card
* Product Type: Camcorder - 1080p - Widescreen Video Capture
* Dimensions (WxDxH): 5.7 cm x 1.8 cm x 10 cm
* Weight: 87 g
* Media Type: Flash card
* Supported Flash Memory: SD Memory Card
* Integrated Memory: 128 MB
* Sensor Resolution: 5.0 Mpix
* Shooting Modes: Digital photo mode
* Lens System: Lens - 7.2 mm - f/3.2
* Focus Adjustment: Focus free
* Min Focus Range: 2 m
* Digital Zoom: 4 x
* Image Stabiliser: Electronic
* Microphone: Microphone - built-in
* Display: LCD display - TFT active matrix - 2.5" - colour
* Supported Battery: 1 x Toshiba NP60 Li-ion rechargeable battery ( included )
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#1
Voted cold as its £84.97 in Tesco, although its out of stock online my local store had them the other day
#2
HOT from me bought @ argos for £130 last week :(
banned#3
I've been watching this steadily fall from £100 a couple of weeks ago.
1 Like #4
CMOS camera, so HOPELESS in low light situations
eg. review - http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/camcorders/256702/toshiba-camileo-s10 - "awful low light performance makes it largely impractical." so don't plan to shoot indoors at family events etc. unles you plan to use extra lighting

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question362.htm explains why this is the case.
banned#5
nihcaj
CMOS camera, so HOPELESS in low light situations
eg. review - http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/camcorders/256702/toshiba-camileo-s10 - "awful low light performance makes it largely impractical." so don't plan to shoot indoors at family events etc. unles you plan to use extra lighting

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question362.htm explains why this is the case.


Thanks for that,

Yeah i am slightly worried about that but i have viewed a view youtube videos from the camera and although a loss in quality i can easily live with that.
The design is really nice as well and i can see my girlfriend using it more with that slim style than a traditional camcorder.

Hopefully it will arrive soon and upload a video to youtube to show the performance.
banned#6
can you give me a shout when you have managed to upload a clip?

Thinking of buying one of these from tesco at £85, but read the mixed reviews....
banned#7
dimebars
can you give me a shout when you have managed to upload a clip?

Thinking of buying one of these from tesco at £85, but read the mixed reviews....


Yeah will do, should get it between 11th - 14th, i'll try and quickly set it up and do a test, outside and inside. :santa:
banned#8
Scowen85
Yeah will do, should get it between 11th - 14th, i'll try and quickly set it up and do a test, outside and inside. :santa:


cheers

the camera looks great and will probably be fine for all I need it for, but dont want to buy an absolute lemon!
#9
Scowen85;7164127
Thanks for that,

Yeah i am slightly worried about that but i have viewed a view youtube videos from the camera


That was exactly what my friend did before spending 145 quid on the SD Card cam he bought a few months back, can't remember the brand, it was a bit of a badge-labelled thing anyway - the Youtube vids were fine, (as they all are when it is footage of street scenes and open countryside!) but in practice the low light performance was appalling, and after all, it was initially to use at his brothers wedding, and most of the footage of that (Inside the church, the Reception, the evening party etc.)was completely unusable :-(

I had been looking for one too, but it seems that you need to pay a good bit more for a CCD type before the performance is good in most situations, and I am not prepared to pay that sort of money, for something I would only occasionally use - eventually they might reach my level of affordability :-(
banned#10
Arrived yesterday, soon as the SD card comes (should be Monday) i'll upload a test,
#11
Scowen85;7200483
Arrived yesterday, soon as the SD card comes (should be Monday) i'll upload a test,


Plenty on Youtube already:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF6V3W2Od_Y is interesting, 1m 19 secs on is in low light.

I think the jumpiness alone makes this poor, without even considering the low light performance!

Or what about this one! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGTMirS6L_c
#12
nihcaj;7165095
I had been looking for one too, but it seems that you need to pay a good bit more for a CCD type before the performance is good in most situations, and I am not prepared to pay that sort of money, for something I would only occasionally use - eventually they might reach my level of affordability :-(


I wouldn't get so hung up on the CCD thing, the vast majority off current consumer cams uses CMOS, perfectly acceptably. And you'll usually have to pay a great deal more for CCD, typically several thousands. To quote about.com

"For many years, CCD image sensors were considered the superior technology as far as image and video quality was concerned. However, CMOS sensors have made tremendous strides in that department and are now found on a growing number of camcorders at all price levels. Sony, for instance, currently uses a CMOS sensor in its top-of-the-line (consumer) high definition camcorder, the HDR-XR520V"
#13
sburley;7207397
I wouldn't get so hung up on the CCD thing, the vast majority off current consumer cams uses CMOS, perfectly acceptably. And you'll usually have to pay a great deal more for CCD, typically several thousands. To quote about.com

"For many years, CCD image sensors were considered the superior technology as far as image and video quality was concerned. However, CMOS sensors have made tremendous strides in that department and are now found on a growing number of camcorders at all price levels. Sony, for instance, currently uses a CMOS sensor in its top-of-the-line (consumer) high definition camcorder, the HDR-XR520V"


I only wish this was true... after a friend's disastrous purchase of a CMOS camera, I have been looking for MONTHS of looking for something with CMOS sensor (ie reasonably CHEAP) & there just aren't ANY that performs as well as an old cheap tape camera did!

Funny you should mention Sony... this deal yesterday:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/554599/sony-hdr-tg7ve-439-99-delivered-aft?t=554599
illustrates the point! It is certainly not in the same cheap category.

Youtube is FULL of lousy low light camera performance for all to see :-(
#14
nihcaj;7207531
I only wish this was true... after a friend's disastrous purchase of a CMOS camera, I have been looking for MONTHS of looking for something with CMOS sensor (ie reasonably CHEAP) & there just aren't ANY that performs as well as an old cheap tape camera did!

Funny you should mention Sony... this deal yesterday:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/554599/sony-hdr-tg7ve-439-99-delivered-aft?t=554599
illustrates the point! It is certainly not in the same cheap category.

Youtube is FULL of lousy low light camera performance for all to see :-(


But it a problem pretty much across the board with HD video unless you go right to the top end (and even then some of them get less than stellar low light reviews). It's a combination of problems, but HD will not function brilliantly in low light unless the lens and chips are of a much higher quality than currently used, and that is never going to happen at a reasonably affordable level in a tradition camcorder, so you just have to live with it. Alternatively you run the risk of shooting every SD and it just generally all looks poor on the increasingly sophisticated HD TVs we have .

If low light is a must then Digital SLR are probably the most viable option and probably the future of HD video. The Canon EOS 5D mkII shoots great video on to a full frame CMOS using quality lens ( and even kit lens are likely to superior quality to those fixed to a camcorder). Low light stuff looks great also. Check out Vimeo.com for examples in their HD channel.
ie. example (from about the 1m 5sec mark) http://www.vimeo.com/3001019

These (type of) cameras will only get cheaper and have the capability/improvements in technology that consumer HD camcorder won't.
#15
sburley;7208309
But it a problem pretty much across the board with HD video unless you go right to the top end (


Well that's the point - It was the camera retailers and manufacturers that have told us all how wonderful their cameras are, and how great they are for just the situations they are so poor in, perhaps I wouldn't have been so disappointed if they hadn't been trying so hard to sell them for use in unsuitable situations.

Had I thought I was going to have to spend huge sums on a camera that would shoot footage I might want to look back at, I wouldn't have even looked twice in the first place, let alone be strongly tempted as it would have been way out of my league (I don't look at supercars, because I can't even nearly afford them!) but they have tempted us all with offers of great performance at low prices everyone can afford (after all we had reasonable performance from Video 8 and VHS cameras), and here we are years on from that, with the modern equivalent of magic lantern shows instead, just when we actually have the means to view decent quality with, via fast broadband to send it, DVD to store it and HD TVs to look at!

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