Toshiba Camileo S20 1080P HD 5MP Digital Camcorder w/ 4GB SD Card, Tripod & Case - £126.33 DELIVERED @ QVC - HotUKDeals
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***THIS IS THE S20 MODEL THAT IS EXCLUSIVE TO QVC AT THE MOMENT IN THE UK. THIS IS THE UPDATED MODEL TO THE S10.***

Capture the magic of Christmas in 1080p resolution with this HD camcorder. Sleek and stylish, the Camileo S20 takes great quality videos and photos, and is a perfect gift idea for Christmas.
Pocket-sized design in a choice of colours

You can capture fantastic videos and pictures on the go with the Toshiba Camileo. At a mere 17mm in width, this slim device will slip neatly into a pocket or bag, making it easy to take with you wherever you go. It's available in a choice of Black, Pink, Red or Silver colour options to suit your style.
HD video recording and HDMI playback

Make the most of your HDTV with the Toshiba Camileo. It records video at up to 1080p high definition resolution and comes complete with a mini HDMI-HDMI lead, allowing you to watch your HD home movies on your HDTV straight from the camera!
Records on to the included 4GB SD card

There's no need to carry any spare tapes or discs as this super compact camcorder records directly to its 128MB internal memory and SD/SDHC cards. It comes with a 4GB SD card to get you started. The card will allow you to record up to an hour of Full HD 1080p footage.
HD camcorder and 5MP camera in one

Combining a HD camcorder and a 5MP digital camera, this device really is a space saver! Now you need only carry one device - great for taking videos of the family unwrapping their presents or a quick snap of your Christmas dinner!

This is £141.20 delivered from Pixmania without the included memory card, case and tripod!
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#1
Might be pssible to get this down to about £121 with the QVC vouchers.
#2
topcashback are doing a minimum of 6% back
and quidco is doing 5%
so dont forget that...................
#3
First of all, like all the cheaper cameras, it's got a CMOS sensor.
CMOS cameras are all HOPELESS in low light situations, by low light I mean indoors generally, so don't plan to shoot indoors at family events etc. unless you plan to use extra lighting, which really helps the atmosphere along!

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question362.htm explains why this is the case.
Unfortunately to get round this, it means spending more for a CCD camera, and they are all dearer than this type, unless of course all you video is bright daylight scenes, where they work fine - but that's not what I want one for :-(

Second, this is the full price anyway so hardly a "deal"... its a new model, so as you mention, not many places have it, but this was released to be on sale at this price anyway,it is full manufacturers recommended price - there are any number of "reviews" or previews of it at a proposed 119 quid: eg.
http://www.t3.com/news/toshibas-camileo-range-three-full-hd-camcorders?=40635&cid=OTC-RSS&attr=T3-Main-RSS
or
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/26883/toshiba-camileo-s20-h30-x100
#4
nihcaj
First of all, like all the cheaper cameras, it's got a CMOS sensor.
CMOS cameras are all HOPELESS in low light situations, by low light I mean indoors generally, so don't plan to shoot indoors at family events etc. unless you plan to use extra lighting, which really helps the atmosphere along!

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question362.htm explains why this is the case.
Unfortunately to get round this, it means spending more for a CCD camera, and they are all dearer than this type, unless of course all you video is bright daylight scenes, where they work fine - but that's not what I want one for :-(

Second, this is the full price anyway so hardly a "deal"... its a new model, so as you mention, not many places have it, but this was released to be on sale at this price anyway,it is full manufacturers recommended price - there are any number of "reviews" or previews of it at a proposed 119 quid: eg.
http://www.t3.com/news/toshibas-camileo-range-three-full-hd-camcorders?=40635&cid=OTC-RSS&attr=T3-Main-RSS
or
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/26883/toshiba-camileo-s20-h30-x100




Hi you obviously know what you are talking about, so I need to but a camera for my son for Christmss, but one we can all use and looked at the kodak zx1, Ultra 2gb, 4gb and hd 8gb and have read good and bad reviews about low light situations. I know these are budget cameras and i don't really need the flip usb connection as i am quite capable of pluging in a cable! ut what would be the best of a bad lot on these please as we see these on here all the time and i am just confussed now:oops::santa:? Thanks
#5
nihcaj
First of all, like all the cheaper cameras, it's got a CMOS sensor.
CMOS cameras are all HOPELESS in low light situations, by low light I mean indoors generally, so don't plan to shoot indoors at family events etc. unless you plan to use extra lighting, which really helps the atmosphere along!

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question362.htm explains why this is the case.
Unfortunately to get round this, it means spending more for a CCD camera, and they are all dearer than this type, unless of course all you video is bright daylight scenes, where they work fine - but that's not what I want one for :-(

Second, this is the full price anyway so hardly a "deal"... its a new model, so as you mention, not many places have it, but this was released to be on sale at this price anyway,it is full manufacturers recommended price - there are any number of "reviews" or previews of it at a proposed 119 quid: eg.
http://www.t3.com/news/toshibas-camileo-range-three-full-hd-camcorders?=40635&cid=OTC-RSS&attr=T3-Main-RSS
or
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/26883/toshiba-camileo-s20-h30-x100




finally.....
a camera expert.
Ive been looking to get one....... confused between the kodak zi6 and zi8 or the flip ultra.
Which would you reckon is better.......
Can you suggest any other that I dont know about.
#6
nihcaj;7196242

Second, this is the full price anyway so hardly a "deal"... its a new model, so as you mention, not many places have it, but this was released to be on sale at this price anyway,it is full manufacturers recommended price - there are any number of "reviews" or previews of it at a proposed 119 quid: eg.
http://www.t3.com/news/toshibas-camileo-range-three-full-hd-camcorders?=40635&cid=OTC-RSS&attr=T3-Main-RSS
or
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/26883/toshiba-camileo-s20-h30-x100


If you can find a cheaper price with a 4gb memory card, case and tripod and delivery by all means vote this cold.

Otherwise how can it be cold?!

The argument that it will be rubbish is also not relevant, if someone wants to buy this camera, this is the best deal around at the moment.
#7
Oh yeah, and although these websites reported way back in September that this would be priced at £119.99, Pixmania have it for £133 WITHOUT delivery. SO at the moment this is the hot deal. :thumbsup:
#8
intresting - so what is the prosed best buy - good find but camera/?? quality
#9
I agree with nihcaj that CCD sensors are better than CMOS sensors, but for the youtube enthusiast or for someone who just wants to shoot some footage every now and again and needs something light and portable this would be fine.

Just some food for thought, the Sony hdr-tg7ve which is priced at £550 on Amazon uses a CMOS sensor.

So unless you're willing to trade size for quality, everything you look at will have a CMOS sensor at this size I believe.

Correct me if I'm wrong though.
1 Like #10
whosthere?;7196280
finally.....
a camera expert.


I definitely wouldn't call myself expert by any means... but what I DO know about is one particular area - these SD card type video cameras - Unfortunately:-(

I say unfortunately because I was asked a good while back by a friend to help him find a good one, naturally, one as cheap as possible.... I did a lot of research, and so did he - we looked at stuff on YouTube and on camera review sites, and he ended up getting one which was one of those models where it is the same cam sold by a few different companies, badeged as different models depending on who was selling it - I forget which "make" it was now, however all the videos we looked at were fine, and the price was right. - 150 quid at the time, although most of them are cheaper now.

I was sold, and thought I would get one too, although wasn't in so much of a rush, so I held back - Thank God I did - the video was fine, we only messed about using it outside, although it had other quirks too, like crackly audio in some situations, but nothing too bad that would put anyone off, so he went away happy, and I ws reasonably impressed.

I borrowed it once too, and it was fine, as it was only for very short use, again all outside, but when he came around to use it for something more important, mainly inside stuff - his Brother's wedding, it was a total disaster, ALL of the footage he shot indoors was totally unusable, and even afterwards, we both tried different settings and played about with it a lot, none of the indoor footage was the slightest bit of use, as for being HD well, it was, but old Video 8 and VHS-C footage was better than that is when in normal indoor situations - even with extra normal lights it was terrible, and it would need proper lighting, more like you would have in a studio! Totally impractical.
I don't think he has used it since.

Thankfully I didn't buy one, (only because I couldn't make my mind up whether or not I could justify buying one!) but I had been looking at others too meanwhile, and once we realised this lighting problem, I started actively looking for something that didn't have this problem, and wasn't finding any. A Google search for the model, plus the words "low light problem" soon found reviews on every one with this problem!

Eventually a guy posted some info on a thread on here about CMOS cameras, and it is now obvious that the problem isn't the camera of any one make, it's the technology that is the problem - after all I hadn't had this problems with Video8 and VHS-C cameras, they had been fine, once the really really early cameras had gone and newer ones had come along with big improvements (no more vivid lights being carried about making people cringe!)

The differnce was, they all have CCD sensors, as do dearer and more conventional video cameras, so look at this in the specifications before even THINKING looking at buying a video camera, unless of course you shoot mountain scenery, beaches or deserts! I want one to shoot indoor events -= pets, family, social things, functions nearly all is indoors.
ALL of the CCD cameras are more than the 120 quid range though, so I stil haven't found one I am willing to part money for :-(

As usually happens on this subject, someone will swear blind that this isn't the case, CMOS cameras are fantastic in low light, although they never show the indoor footage that is supposed to be so wonderful! Funny that. (Either that or my personal stalker will now make an appearance....)
#11
vialli25;7196450
Just some food for thought, the Sony hdr-tg7ve which is priced at £550 on Amazon uses a CMOS sensor.


Yes, you are right... and if you do a search on Google you will find it has the SAME problem.
eg.
http://www.digitalversus.com/article-363-5352-16.html
"Lots of electronic noise in low light" & "Its problems in low light levels make it less well-suited to home movies"
Makes a good illustration of my point, so whatever you are going to pay, they are all duff in lower light!
1 Like #12
I actually bought a JVC Everio GZ-HD10 for a project a few months back and was shocked at the picture quality. It said it was full HD, but as you said it looked more like VHS footage. I was so disappointed with it after expecting crystal clear HD footage that I took it back for a refund.

After you mentioned the CMOS sensors I looked it up this morning and it does in fact have a CMOS sensor so I fully back up your point about the quality difference between CCD and CMOS.

However, as you said, for this price you're never going to find an HD CCD camera so it's about people's personal preferences whether they get this or not.

Like they say, you get what you pay for!!!
#13
I've ordered one of these..

I have had a 3xCCD HD Panasonic in the past (was the worlds smallest HD camcorder at the time) and never took it anywhere, because it was still too big. Plus the fact we hardly ever used it..

So I thought I would give this a whirl for occasional use. Thanks for the heads up on the deal (cos I never watch QVC!)

Not really sure why this is being compared to CCD camcorders anyway... They are different products in different price brackets.
#14
nihcaj
I definitely wouldn't call myself expert by any means... but what I DO know about is one particular area - these SD card type video cameras - Unfortunately:-(

I say unfortunately because I was asked a good while back by a friend to help him find a good one, naturally, one as cheap as possible.... I did a lot of research, and so did he - we looked at stuff on YouTube and on camera review sites, and he ended up getting one which was one of those models where it is the same cam sold by a few different companies, badeged as different models depending on who was selling it - I forget which "make" it was now, however all the videos we looked at were fine, and the price was right. - 150 quid at the time, although most of them are cheaper now.

I was sold, and thought I would get one too, although wasn't in so much of a rush, so I held back - Thank God I did - the video was fine, we only messed about using it outside, although it had other quirks too, like crackly audio in some situations, but nothing too bad that would put anyone off, so he went away happy, and I ws reasonably impressed.

I borrowed it once too, and it was fine, as it was only for very short use, again all outside, but when he came around to use it for something more important, mainly inside stuff - his Brother's wedding, it was a total disaster, ALL of the footage he shot indoors was totally unusable, and even afterwards, we both tried different settings and played about with it a lot, none of the indoor footage was the slightest bit of use, as for being HD well, it was, but old Video 8 and VHS-C footage was better than that is when in normal indoor situations - even with extra normal lights it was terrible, and it would need proper lighting, more like you would have in a studio! Totally impractical.
I don't think he has used it since.

Thankfully I didn't buy one, (only because I couldn't make my mind up whether or not I could justify buying one!) but I had been looking at others too meanwhile, and once we realised this lighting problem, I started actively looking for something that didn't have this problem, and wasn't finding any. A Google search for the model, plus the words "low light problem" soon found reviews on every one with this problem!

Eventually a guy posted some info on a thread on here about CMOS cameras, and it is now obvious that the problem isn't the camera of any one make, it's the technology that is the problem - after all I hadn't had this problems with Video8 and VHS-C cameras, they had been fine, once the really really early cameras had gone and newer ones had come along with big improvements (no more vivid lights being carried about making people cringe!)

The differnce was, they all have CCD sensors, as do dearer and more conventional video cameras, so look at this in the specifications before even THINKING looking at buying a video camera, unless of course you shoot mountain scenery, beaches or deserts! I want one to shoot indoor events -= pets, family, social things, functions nearly all is indoors.
ALL of the CCD cameras are more than the 120 quid range though, so I stil haven't found one I am willing to part money for :-(

As usually happens on this subject, someone will swear blind that this isn't the case, CMOS cameras are fantastic in low light, although they never show the indoor footage that is supposed to be so wonderful! Funny that. (Either that or my personal stalker will now make an appearance....)


Thanks for that.....
Will check the specs of the ones I have narrowed down.......
rep left!!
#15
Canon Ixus 100 from Ebay for £125 would be a far better deal, or £129 with 4gb card
#16
psykix;7196763
Not really sure why this is being compared to CCD camcorders anyway... They are different products in different price brackets.


It's quite simple... the later versions of older technology (tape cameras) performed fine in all lights, even the cheapest. The average buyer is going to expect the same or, more likley (because now it is all about HD this and HD that), BETTER performance, After all, time has moved on so we tend to expect better, not poorer; and, if you notice, they sell them for use in all sorts of circumstances - in this case, QVC is even making a big deal about it: " great for taking videos of the family unwrapping their presents or a quick snap of your Christmas dinner!" when in reality that's the last thing they are suitable for!

My friend threw 150 quid away, I nearly did too, and think it well worth the effort to make sure others know the problem before they buy.
#17
whosthere?;7196848
Thanks for that.....
Will check the specs of the ones I have narrowed down.......
rep left!!


Thanks, clearly you see my point, and will take it into account... precisely what I have been trying to get across in several posts on various threads.

Now if you decide the problem is something you can live with, you can still decide to buy, but at least you will be buying because you know, if not, then you can do what I am doing, either hanging on until either the CCD technology cameras get smaller & cheaper, or perhaps buy a bigger format camera.

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