Toshiba Camileo S20 Full HD 1080p Camcorder UK version - Black £89.99 @ Amazon - HotUKDeals
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* 1080p, Full HD resolution
* 5 MP CMOS sensor
* 4 x digital zoom
* HDMI digital AV output
* Easy YouTube upload
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#1
My Father bought 2 of these (1 for a present) from QVC at Christmas last year and had to return both of them. They are virtually useless if filming indoors. I don't know where the HD part comes in as the playback was very grainy indeed (even at Full HD) with all the lights on during the day!

Sorry OP I don't like to slate other peoples deals, but please don't buy one of these!!

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I must add based on price it's a hot deal, however I'm not voting either way.



Edited By: LeeIW on Dec 13, 2010 14:59: Reviews added
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#3
Also available at Tesco and Dixons for £89.97
#4
LeeIW - Dec 13, 2010 14:48

I bought this for my dad's birthday at a cost of £99 which I thought was a bargain - Toshiba being a recognised and good brand but in day light the video was great but I agree indoors and in the evenings was worse than useless. It was returned and I got my cash back - seems like they had several returned.
#5
Look guys what do you expect from budget video cameras?
These like the flip etc have neither the sensor type/size or lens to allow for low light conditions.
They are also generally fixed compression bitrates and the quality will suffer.
#6
azazael as it's sold as having Full HD resolution I expected a decent picture quality - I added my comment to back up LeelW added - To inform people who think that they are getting something great at a bargain price that they are actually getting something very basic and in mine and LeelW's father's opinion not really up to standard - The reason I returned mine was - Not fit for purpose!
#7
I have the Toshiba H20 Camilo, it's pretty similar performance to this one but in the barrel shape with the fold out LCD screen.
In daylight it's superb but in low light it's absolutely not.
But then I didn't really care cos I already knew that before I got it.

I'm looking to change to their latest sx900 which has a much better low-light sensor & performance - but it is still (just) a sub £200 HD camcorder (from Pixma right now).
The extra flexibility might be useful.

So long as tyou are aware of the limitations before you buy these make great cheap HD camcorders.
When I went to Singapore last year the H20 was a brilliant buy, wonderful video on the big TV at home when I came back.....and I wasn't always terrified of losing a hugely expensive camcorder if anything has happened to it.
I really wasn't bothered about filming at night & that being the case it exceeded my expectations.
#8
I have the Veho version of this. It is a good little camera. Not great indoors and quite grainy. Resolution is HD, nothing to do with the picture quality indoors. Outdoors, picture quality is very good although sound could be better (too quiet). It's getting on a bit now and should really be around the £50 mark by now in my opinion.
#9
I know some of the Toshiba Camileo cams are rebadged Aiptek models so check out the reviews before buying based on brand alone.
#10
crd67
azazael as it's sold as having Full HD resolution I expected a decent picture quality - I added my comment to back up LeelW added - To inform people who think that they are getting something great at a bargain price that they are actually getting something very basic and in mine and LeelW's father's opinion not really up to standard - The reason I returned mine was - Not fit for purpose!


Full HD has nothing to do with picture quality, that is only the resolution.
Picture quality is down to the lens, sensor and bitrate.

You have to understand you people are all falling into the HD buzzword scam and especially when it comes to laptop displays and monitors. Selling a 24" monitor these days with a 1920x1080 resolution is goin backwards when they were 16:10 1920x1200 previously and also 1366x768 on a laptop is a total joke. They just know if they slap HD on it everyone will have to have it.

Anyhow back to the video cameras.. you aint gonna get anything that is going to meet what any of you expect from an "HD" camera for under a grand at least so stop complaining. Just learn to use them in environments and situations with lots of light.
#11
azazael
crd67
azazael as it's sold as having Full HD resolution I expected a decent picture quality - I added my comment to back up LeelW added - To inform people who think that they are getting something great at a bargain price that they are actually getting something very basic and in mine and LeelW's father's opinion not really up to standard - The reason I returned mine was - Not fit for purpose!
Full HD has nothing to do with picture quality, that is only the resolution.Picture quality is down to the lens, sensor and bitrate.You have to understand you people are all falling into the HD buzzword scam and especially when it comes to laptop displays and monitors. Selling a 24" monitor these days with a 1920x1080 resolution is goin backwards when they were 16:10 1920x1200 previously and also 1366x768 on a laptop is a total joke. They just know if they slap HD on it everyone will have to have it.Anyhow back to the video cameras.. you aint gonna get anything that is going to meet what any of you expect from an "HD" camera for under a grand at least so stop complaining. Just learn to use them in environments and situations with lots of light.

Not a question of complaining and nothing to do with falling into buzzword scams, more a case of as mentioned by crd67 this camera not being fit for purpose. There was nothing mentioned in the demo about the limitations of indoor use. Good price, terrible indoor picture quality.

The impression your posts are giving is that we should almost be grateful to Toshiba for producing this camera at this price point. At this time of year, if people are buying a camera then they'd probably expect it to be upto the job of filming their Christmas Day & New Years Eve festivities. I don't know many people that want to do this outside!
#12
Nothing to do with a scam here.
(the H20 Camileo is pretty much the same camera repackaged)

It gives outstanding daylight HD video, I know, I can see it on my HD TV when I connect them.......it also helps loads knowing i did not pay an arm & a leg for it.

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