In the new Makro catalogue (Special as they have re-fitted many stores) is the camcorder above. No idea what it is like but claims to be HD using a SD card. I looked at prices and they seem to be from £100 up to £160 so may be a bargain for someone who's looking for one. Had them in Cardiff but as I still use an old mini DV I didn't pay much attention to it though it looked quite small.
Only info I have is 10 Mp
5x optical zoom (poor I know but better than these zonnox things we see ith only digital zoom)
SD (max 8Gb SDHC)
64Mb internal RAM.
Again, hope it's of use to those looking for one.