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Pixmania voucher code (awin070613 should work) and the price comes down to £214!

TOSHIBA HD E1 HD-DVD Player + Pack of 5 HD-DVD films

The HD E1 HD DVD player is miles ahead of the rest of the pack, offering you DVD High Definition play and 3 new Surround sound formats: Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby True HD. The HD E1 reinvents players and guarantees even more advanced audio and video quality than a traditional DVD player by adding a multimedia dimension to digital entertainment with its 2 USB ports and 10/100 Ethernet port. The HD E1 has a cutting-edge connection system that includes a digital HDMI 1.2 output...


Pixmanias price (excluding pack) £ 99 Inc. VAT (147,49 ) - IN STOCK

Million Dollar Baby: The trainer Frankie Dunn has withdrawn into himself since being rejected by his daughter, and now lives as an emotional hermit, avoiding any relationship that might add to his pain and feelings of guilt. When 31-year-old Maggie Fitzgerald walks through the doors of Frankie's gym looking for a coach to train her, she brings with her not only her youth, vitality and strength, but also a personal history filled with hardship and ordeals. She has one ambition: to be coached by Frankie, get in the ring, and make her dream finally come true.



Sky Fighters: During the Farnborough International Airshow, a Mirage 2000 disappears while in the middle of a demonstration. Captains Marchelli and Vallois, both highly skilled pilots, are sent to look for the plane in the area where it disappeared from radar screens. When they find the 2000, it goes into combat position, forcing Vallois to take it down. This incident is the point of departure for a huge terrorist conspiracy aiming to eliminate the heads of state invited to the Bastille Day festivities in Paris. Marchelli and Vallois, at the head of the investigation, suspect that the Army has been infiltrated



Two Brothers: Born in the middle of the jungle, two baby tigers grow up under the caring watch of their parents. However, their lives are turned upside down by humans. One tiger becomes a circus star called Koumal, and the other becomes Sangha, the pet of the colonial prefects son.



The Bourne Supremacy: For two years, ex-CIA agent-cum-hit man Jason Bourne and his girlfriend Marie have succeeded in deceiving their pursuers, but must pay the price by living their lives with extreme vigilance. Periodically changing their identity and abandoning their home at the slightest alert, a persistent stare or a motiveless phone call is enough to get them on the run again. A peaceful village in Goa should have been their final safe haven. Blending in with all the tourists, the couple believed they were safe, and Jason thought his nightmares and terrifying memories of a past filled of violence were finally starting to subside. He thought wrong



Miami Vice: Miami Two federal agents and an informants family have been brutally murdered. A new investigation has begun for Sonny Crockett and his partner Ricardo Tubbs. They are only sure of one thing: the leak that led to the massacre came from the top. The two inspectors quickly discover that the killers were hired by the Aryan Fraternity, a supremacist organisation linked to an international trafficking network and equipped with an ultra-sophisticated protection system. Continuing their investigations, the two partners contact the cartel administrator, Isabelle, a Sino-Cuban who is just as adept in investments and funds transfers as she is at laundering money.
The seductive Isabella offers Sonny, against all the odds, a chance to exorcise his demons. A dangerous game begins between them, based on mutual manipulation and terrible secrets, while Ricardo infiltrates the organisation, all while trying to ensure the safety of his girlfriend Trudy. Forced to pledge their allegiance by taking part in cartel trafficking, the two agents soon reach the most secret and perilous phase of their investigation. They must keep their true identities a secret, with the fear of them being revealed at any time, and, even worse, the risk of losing what they cherish the most
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banned#2
Still about £100 too much but coming down gradually. I wouldnt buy anything from pixmania either as their customer service is second to anyone.
#3
Seems to be that the industry thinks blu-ray will be the winner and even Microsoft have said that if necessary they can bring out a blu-ray external player for the xbox 360 if necessary. So I've a feeling hd-dvd is not destined to stay at high prices. In fact Toshiba may simply cut their losses sooner rather than later and abandon the format in a year or so. Universal may cave in even sooner. The point is hd-dvd is a dead format.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=26216
#4
[QUOTE=bonzobanana]Seems to be that the industry thinks blu-ray will be the winner and even Microsoft have said that if necessary they can bring out a blu-ray external player for the xbox 360 if necessary. So I've a feeling hd-dvd is not destined to stay at high prices. In fact Toshiba may simply cut their losses sooner rather than later and abandon the format in a year or so. Universal may cave in even sooner. The point is hd-dvd is a dead format.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=26216[/QUOTE]

He makes an interesting point, but forgets that currently most people like "things" - this isn't a 79p music download with a short shelflife, this is a £10+ movie (or tv series), and I think people are going to want the physical item. Not least so that you can lend your mates S1 of the Sopranos or the latest Die Hard - you wont be able to do that on dl only content.
#5
Well spotted elsewhere :)
#6
social lurker

He makes an interesting point, but forgets that currently most people like "things" - this isn't a 79p music download with a short shelflife, this is a £10+ movie (or tv series), and I think people are going to want the physical item. Not least so that you can lend your mates S1 of the Sopranos or the latest Die Hard - you wont be able to do that on dl only content.


My point wasn't that downloading was the future just that blu-ray will be the winner. The article on gameindustry.biz had both points to make. Interesting though that Microsoft would support a format just so that it would cause problems for blu-ray and ultimately sony. If they hadn't backed hd-dvd the market would be more stable and comortable for the consumer who would only have one hd choice. I can see why Microsoft did it but now the 360 is going to be linked at least with an obsolete format. I suspect Sony probably made it difficult for Microsoft to join the blu-ray camp and then Microsoft had no other option but to support hd-dvd even if its heart wasn't in it.
#7
These are going really cheap on eBay as the Americans seem to be selling them off, also the newer version is also available for just a bit more.

Looks like Blu-Ray is the way to go in the long run.

Toshiba HD DVD Player HD-XA1 - around £100.

TOSHIBA HD-A2 HDA2 - around £115.

sorry ebay links not allowed here.
#8
You might be surprised by the eventual winner of the HD formats.

1) Blueray has the larger capacity(around 50gb vs 25gb), but HD can do clever things like overlaying video streams - For example if you have a directors commentry with video overlay - the blueray disc would have to have the entire film on the disc twice (halving its capacity) where as the HDDVD version just needs 1 version of the film and a much smaller stream for the overlay.

2) Massive price difference - Look at the price of this deal (and look at the price of the xbox 360 external HD drive - which works on a pc out of the box) - compare this with the price of the blueray equiv. I think the general public prefer lower cost vs extra capacity.

Personally I havent taken the plunge yet, it was looking like blueray was going to clean up - But with these recent price cuts who can tell - this might be the turning point and HD still has a chance of getting the better market share.

Ideally I would like to see HD for the mass market video discs and blueray used for its larger capacity for datastorage.

Lets see :)
#9
bonzobanana
My point wasn't that downloading was the future just that blu-ray will be the winner. The article on gameindustry.biz had both points to make. Interesting though that Microsoft would support a format just so that it would cause problems for blu-ray and ultimately sony. If they hadn't backed hd-dvd the market would be more stable and comortable for the consumer who would only have one hd choice. I can see why Microsoft did it but now the 360 is going to be linked at least with an obsolete format. I suspect Sony probably made it difficult for Microsoft to join the blu-ray camp and then Microsoft had no other option but to support hd-dvd even if its heart wasn't in it.


OK, so you found an article saying blu-ray will win this "format war". There have been articles about both sides claiming imminent victory for some time now.

I disagree that Microsoft supporting HD-DVD is simply to stop either format winning. They did it because they wanted to support the format with the least DRM and no region restrictions. As you mentioned, this is because they realise that one day people will have most of their media stored non-optically, and so want people to be able to put their high-dif disks on hard-drives.

But this place is for people wanting to buy things rather than hypothesize about the future of large corporations, so let's just get to what's most important: If you buy this, there are 237 HD-DVDs currently released that you can buy. Look at a list of them (available here: http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/reviews_alpha.html), and decide if you want to watch many of them in high definition (you could also look at ones with official release dates: http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/releasedates.html). If the answer's yes, then this is the cheapest way to do it.

Voted hot.
#10
hd-dvd is dead. Its just the way the market is going. It doesn't matter about the technology and surprisingly it doesn't seem to matter about pricing that much. Its just all the film studios and retail companies are pushing blu-ray. No one in the industry is expecting hd-dvd to recover and there seems to be a gradual retreat with the companies involved with hd-dvd. There should be some stellar bargains for hd-dvd players and discs in the near future.
#11
bonzobanana
hd-dvd is dead. Its just the way the market is going. It doesn't matter about the technology and surprisingly it doesn't seem to matter about pricing that much. Its just all the film studios and retail companies are pushing blu-ray. No one in the industry is expecting hd-dvd to recover and there seems to be a gradual retreat with the companies involved with hd-dvd. There should be some stellar bargains for hd-dvd players and discs in the near future.


They won't be stellar bargains if the format is dead will it? Bit like buying a job lot of Betamax VCRs, Digital Compact Cassette machines and Mini Disc players and thinking you've got some real bargains:-D

The key will be when the Chinese start mass-producing the HD machines. They won't pay the current rates for licenses and royalties so as soon as Toshiba or Sony do a deal, then we'll be seeing the cheap supermarket specials arriving by the pallet load.

But there still isn't a mass market in the same way that there was for people to replace VCRs with DVDs so both formats will be moribund for a long time yet IMO. By then we'll have a new generation to contend with - Super-HD anyone:p
banned#12
Batman2
These are going really cheap on eBay as the Americans seem to be selling them off, also the newer version is also available for just a bit more.


Not every HD DVD Player owner is an ebay user you know, would I find no blu-ray players if I went and searched ebay.com for then either then?
#13
I think HD-DVD is far from dead just yet. There's still quite a large fallowing for HD-DVD.

It's going to be a while yet before the winner is decided. I personally prefer HD-DVD over Blu-ray.
#14
I don't agree that HD-DVD is dead as Samsung who previously have sided with Blu-Ray have confirmed that it is to follow LG's footsteps and make a dual player. My guess is that we will end up with players and recorders that play both, similar to how most DVD drives these days play DVD+/- & Ram.
#15
Be surprised if HD-DVD is dead. Exclusives like Matrix collection (which rocks by the way) and Lord Of The Rings Trilogy later in the year may see HD-DVD start to gain momentum.
#16
Steer well clear of this - HD DVD is losing this format war and by next year it will be dead. It's not only the fact that Blu-Ray has much much more support from studios and manufacturers, it's the fact that blu-ray is now gaining momentum and any blu-ray exc. studios going format neutral(which could placate the war) now looks unlikely.
#17
The format war hasn't even begun - sales at present are miniscule. The real battle will come when drives hit $150 or less (£75). HDDVD isn't far off, currently around $230 at cheapest. Bluray is still around the $500 mark, so has a fair way to go.


Bluray may have more theoretical support, but at present it's pretty much 50/50 in terms of output. I've got both, and buy the same number of discs of each.
#18
Proximo
Not every HD DVD Player owner is an ebay user you know, would I find no blu-ray players if I went and searched ebay.com for then either then?


Blu-Ray players are on eBay, but far fewer and are keeping there prices.

HD-DVD is a dead format, so voted cold as you will have no use for it by next year when no one will be supporting it.

Already Blockbuster in the USA has stopped stocking HD-DVD as 80% of there customers were renting Blu-Ray.

Blu-Ray is already the winner in Australia & Japan, won't be long before it dies in Europe as well.
banned#19
Batman2
These are going really cheap on eBay as the Americans seem to be selling them off, also the newer version is also available for just a bit more.

Looks like Blu-Ray is the way to go in the long run.

Toshiba HD DVD Player HD-XA1 - around £100.

TOSHIBA HD-A2 HDA2 - around £115.

sorry ebay links not allowed here.

LOL! have you even tried ebay mate? There are no HD-XA1 players on ebay uk and only 1 HD-A2 priced at £399!

Blatant lies do not add to the debate.
#20
csiman
LOL! have you even tried ebay mate? There are no HD-XA1 players on ebay uk and only 1 HD-A2 priced at £399!

Blatant lies do not add to the debate.


I think the point Batman2 was making refered to Ebay.com (as he says Americans) and quotes prices as "around £115" implying some sort of approximation eg. currency exchange rates. Checking ebay.com does find lots of hd-dvd players at buy it now prices of around £115, and Blu ray players being over £250 (from $460-560).

I think its a bit harsh calling him a liar before allowing him to qualify his statements which are correct.
#21
your all still assuming one of these formats is gauranteed to take over from dvd .
dvd audio and super ausio have both been out a number of years now and they havn't put a dent into the cd market . and they are alot better sound wise.


i'll buy one of the formats when i deem the price is right... just dont see the leap yet as i dont think i'll be going from from 720p panny tv for a while.

i got on the dvd wagon fairly early ( aug 98 ) , but this time around i'm waiting
#22
I'm impressed by the amount of people in this thread that can see into the future. "this time next year it will be dead" etc etc (can somebody post next weeks lottery numbers please?)
I'm not buying into either format yet as we are a long way off finding out who the "winner" is.
Lets face it, the majority of people out there that own a tv with an "HD Ready" badge on it, think they are watching stuff in HD already.
The only reason Blu Ray has got anywhere is because of the PS3. Before the PS3 came out, HD-DVD was considered the outright winner from the offset.
Obviosly things can change!

(addition) it's also worth looking at the AV forums. To give you some idea of the difference in the Uk

http://www.avforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=245


Blu Ray DVD Players - Threads 732 Posts 11776
HD-DVD Players - Threads 1849 Posts 36126

And not forgetting there's a further 602 threads and 17530 posts for the HD-DVD XBox 360 add on!!!
#23
[SIZE=2]$230 (115 pounds) ebay price hd-dvd players makes perfect sense, considering you can get them for $280 delivered from the likes of amazon, and cheaper elsewhere. That's simply what HDDVD costs these days, as the raw cost of the drives has plummeted - eg you can buy PC drives from China for about 40 pounds. With integrated chipset solutions providing cheap decoding/scaling just coming on the market, expect set top boxes for <100 pounds by the end of the year.[/SIZE]
#24
Chorlton
Be surprised if HD-DVD is dead. Exclusives like Matrix collection (which rocks by the way) and Lord Of The Rings Trilogy later in the year may see HD-DVD start to gain momentum.


The Matrix collection is coming to Blu Ray too so it's not exclusive at all, the only exclusive content is from Universal.

It's a good price and deal but you have to question why it's so cheap and why they're willing to give away 5 movies.. because they're desperate that's why, price is the only thing HD DVD have left. Cheap chinese players are irrelevant, Blu Ray will match the prices with their own cheap players. I wouldn't go anywhere near HD DVD at the moment, it's future is not rosy at all.

The BD+ specs have just been finalised, that's the extra protection that Fox and MGM have been waiting for, they will now start releasing their content on Blu Ray.. Star Wars anyone?

“Fox has vigorously fought against piracy for years and the adoption of BD+ as part of the Blu-ray Disc specification, and an enhancement over and above AACS, was a key factor in our decision to publish on the format,” noted Mike Dunn, President Worldwide, Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment. “This added layer of content protection gives Blu-ray yet another distinct competitive advantage."

The best HD disc so far is on Blu Ray, Pirates of The Caribbean2.. the picture quality on that is astounding. Disney and Dimension are now using AVC encoding for their new releases, other studios will follow. Microsoft do want both formats to fail purely because they want to sell content by digital delivery, personally i like owning a movie or whatever on a disc. Content will win this war and currently Blu Ray has more, with the list growing.. what's more likely to happen first: Universal goes format neutral... or Disney, Fox, MGM, Sony and Lionsgate go format neutral?
#25
This is a pretty good deal.

There's been massive talk about HD but it simply hasn't taken the publics imagination. Just a niche audience has adopted HD. In the meantime neither HD or Blu-Ray have made a dent on SD DVD.

The format war is being won by SD DVD hands down and if it continues this way both HD formats will die off.
#26
csiman
LOL! have you even tried ebay mate? There are no HD-XA1 players on ebay uk and only 1 HD-A2 priced at £399!

Blatant lies do not add to the debate.


Actually like others have pointed out I was reffering to Amazon.com, because the American's have now realised that HD-DVD is now dead.

If HD-DVD was released way before Blu-Ray then why is Blu-Ray totally hammering HD-DVD in software sales...?

For every HD-DVD disc sold almost 3 Blu-Ray discs are sold.

Also you need to buy a xbox360 (£279) and then the addon drive (£129) to watch HD-DVD or buy a reasonable powerfull PC capable of watching HD-DVD + a HD-DVD drive, so people should stop saying that you only need to buy the xbox360 HD-DVD drive to run HD-DVD.
#27
Batman2
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Also you need to buy a xbox360 (£279) and then the addon drive (£129) to watch HD-DVD or buy a reasonable powerfull PC capable of watching HD-DVD + a HD-DVD drive, so people should stop saying that you only need to buy the xbox360 HD-DVD drive to run HD-DVD.


you can run them on a pc . it has a usb connection .
#28
Batman2
Actually like others have pointed out I was reffering to Amazon.com, because the American's have now realised that HD-DVD is now dead.

If HD-DVD was released way before Blu-Ray then why is Blu-Ray totally hammering HD-DVD in software sales...?

For every HD-DVD disc sold almost 3 Blu-Ray discs are sold.

Also you need to buy a xbox360 (£279) and then the addon drive (£129) to watch HD-DVD or buy a reasonable powerfull PC capable of watching HD-DVD + a HD-DVD drive, so people should stop saying that you only need to buy the xbox360 HD-DVD drive to run HD-DVD.


Batman, you can either buy this deal for £220 with 5 films, or buy a core for £150 plus a £100 HD-DVD..so £250... and still play the 360 games.
#29
smashed
Batman, you can either buy this deal for £220 with 5 films, or buy a core for £150 plus a £100 HD-DVD..so £250... and still play the 360 games.


I know what your saying m8, but I was just saying that a lot of people keep saying all you need to do is purchase the xbox HD-DVD addon drive (£129) to run HD-DVD, they are presuming that everyone has an Xbox360.

I also know you can run them of a P.C. via USB, but how many people have just a basic PC that will struggle to run the discs...?

I know my last PC used to struggle to play HD content and that was a pretty decent spec PC. I now have no problems on my CoreDuo system, I can run full 1080P content with no problems at all.
#30
I didn't mean to upset anyone by saying that hd-dvd was a dead format its just information that has come my way after reading from various sites and just thought the information was relevant to people considering buying a hd-dvd player. I own neither format but do plan to buy a ps3 for its games when it goes sub £300. The blu-ray playback will be a bonus rather than the main reason for getting a ps3. I personally believe what I've read but don't actually care myself what happens with either format. I'm not to keen to start replacing my extensive dvd collection so I'm really not that bothered about the new formats.
#31
Batman2
I know what your saying m8, but I was just saying that a lot of people keep saying all you need to do is purchase the xbox HD-DVD addon drive (£129) to run HD-DVD, they are presuming that everyone has an Xbox360.
I also know you can run them of a P.C. via USB, but how many people have just a basic PC that will struggle to run the discs...? I know my last PC used to struggle to play HD content and that was a pretty decent spec PC. I now have no problems on my CoreDuo system, I can run full 1080P content with no problems at all.

Now that ATI have just released their entry level DX10 cards that fully support VC-1 and H.264 decoding the cost for viewing HD-DVD via a PC has reduced and become accessible to people with low spec CPUs. It’s still not exactly cheap though as you need to spend something like:

ATI VGA - £30+
Xbox HD-DVD - £100
PowerDVD Ultra - £55

The only thing that makes me think that Blu-ray has taken a significant lead is the Blockbuster (USA) announcement. As for the sales figures, they can easily be massaged and we don’t know if they are including the free discs that the PS3 came with etc. It does look as if Sony is desperately trying to buy success for BR by underwriting the cost of including it in the PS3. The longer term question is whether PS3 owners that bought a couple of BR discs at the outset will turn into long term buyers.
HD-DVD has fewer players on the market but people that buy a dedicated player are more likely to buy more discs than a console owner I figure.

At this point I’d put money on BR being the more successful of the two. I very rarely buy DVDs but do use LoveFilm etc and they are already supporting both formats with more BR titles last time I checked.
#32
SmilingCrow

The only thing that makes me think that Blu-ray has taken a significant lead is the Blockbuster (USA) announcement. As for the sales figures, they can easily be massaged and we don’t know if they are including the free discs that the PS3 came with etc. It does look as if Sony is desperately trying to buy success for BR by underwriting the cost of including it in the PS3. The longer term question is whether PS3 owners that bought a couple of BR discs at the outset will turn into long term buyers.
HD-DVD has fewer players on the market but people that buy a dedicated player are more likely to buy more discs than a console owner I figure.

At this point I’d put money on BR being the more successful of the two. I very rarely buy DVDs but do use LoveFilm etc and they are already supporting both formats with more BR titles last time I checked.


Free discs are not included. Yes, Sony is desperately trying to buy the success of its format, as are Toshiba. They own the format! Imagine if you owned DVD! You get a cut of every disk sold, it is an absolute gold mine worth billions.
#33
Voted hot, I have a 360 + HD DVD setup currently and been thinking of buying a core Xbox for another room and swap the drive as I want. However I'm tempted by something like this as it's a bit more convenient than the console + hd dvd drive.

John
#34
Most people saying negative statements are most likely PS3 owners (fanboys if you will). HD-DVD is far from dead.

You'll certainly see when licencing is granted for cheap mass produced players in asia, as HD-DVD is the cheaper format to produce on already existing DVD production lines.

I have been enjoying renting HD-DVDs from blockbuster since last year, listening to *real* Dolby TrueHD via my HTPC and 360 drive on my av setup, all for a 100 notes.

For that reason, even if Sony did reverse the trend this time, I wouldn't feel out of pocket, and would get an optical drive when they'll be down to peanuts sooner or later.

How much did you pay for your first CD-ROM drive? BD will be no different.
#35
sideysid
Most people saying negative statements are most likely PS3 owners (fanboys if you will). HD-DVD is far from dead.


Nope, nothing would please me more than to see the PS3, Blu-ray, Sony and their root kits etc, restrective DRM and region encoding that allows this country to be massively overcharged compared to the rest of the world all plunge into a bottomless hole.

Unfortunatley the unplesant restrictiveness of bluray means film studios can make more money out of it per disc sold and as a result it's the format getting all the publicity and releases.
Imagine the average person walking into a store, checking out their options and then walking out with a player, which do you think they are going to get, the one with all the advertising and titles or the one that doesn't have half the films they want?
#36
HD DVD is far from dead, I own a lot of top quality high tech gear (Betamax video, Laserdisc, minidisc) and am sure this one will stand the test of time...

:)
#37
BarneyL
Imagine the average person walking into a store, checking out their options and then walking out with a player, which do you think they are going to get, the one with all the advertising and titles or the one that doesn't have half the films they want?


For a start the average person right now doesn't just walk into a store and buy HD equipment.

Secondly neither Blu-ray or HD-DVD have what you would call a vast selection of quality films on offer.

Thirdly, you need to give people a bit more credit than being washed over by advertising campaigns. Neither Blu-ray or HD-DVD have had the expected take up that was being talked about.

Some people here are using words that seriously exagerate how the two HD formats are doing right now. There is not a massive difference between the two of them, frankly because the total numbers of HD discs sold is relatively so miniscule it is completely dwarfed by SD.

HD-DVD hardware is cheaper than Blu-ray, HD-DVD has got itself a foothold in the crucial end of the market already. If there's anything that an 'average' customer likes is the fact that something is cheap.

That is why this is a bargain and the likes of you and me are reading about it on HotUK deals forum :whistling:
#38
Well I'm not a sony fanboy. I thought the ps2 was pants and the xbox 10x better but I'm more a nintendo fan when it comes to gaming.

I think part of the reason is software protection is soooooo much better with blu-ray than hd-dvd. Even though blu-ray is more expensive its also surging ahead of hd-dvd in software sales. There is nothing on the horizion like the ps3 to push hd-dvd. Japanese firms are not keen on licensing to chinese manufacturers as they rarely pay the licenses with dvd. Instead it seems these newer formats will be made in china but with japanese branding.

The ps3 may be too pricey for most now but its a fantastic piece of hardware when it hits a lower price point. Ok xbox 360 games tend to be slightly outperforming the ps3 in general but the cell processor has a steep learning curve and at least the ps3 seems to be a quality product with normal levels of reliability.

Lets face it no industry analyst is predicting the death of blu-ray because so many homes are going to have ps3's capable of playing them. The blockbuster decision to stop supporting hd-dvd is a massive one. It sends out a signal that hd-dvd is on the way out already. Blockbuster would not want to back the wrong horse so they have made the decision because the data they have shows that hd-dvd is on the way out.

Whatever you think about Sony the ps3 is a far more exciting and desirable product than toshiba's standalone hd-dvd players for the mass market.

Theres enough information on this thread now for people at least to consider that hd-dvd may not have a long term future and so people buying a player now won't put their hands up in shock when the format goes tits up later and start moaning about wasteing their money.

People mentioning that hd-dvd is on the way out have been accused of being sony fanboys but how many hd-dvd advocates are either hd-dvd owners or 360 fanboys? I can honestly say I have no bias and I'm just reporting what I've read.
#39
What surprises me is that a format with a far more logical (consumer friendly) name like HD-DVD could be outsold by a crazy name like Blu-Ray.
#40
gonchong
HD DVD is far from dead, I own a lot of top quality high tech gear (Betamax video, Laserdisc, minidisc) and am sure this one will stand the test of time...

:)


I'm not sure hd-dvd supporters will appreciatte your viewpoint. Even though I'm near enough 100% positive that hd-dvd is on the way out it has to be said that unless blu-ray gets industry wide support its shelf life may only be a few years anyway. Audio CD and DVD are so entrenched now that its hard to get the consumers to budge. Blu-ray may dominate high definition media sales but that still may be a niche compared to dvd sales. Something better may be on the horizon. Reading data off a spinning disc has limitations. Ultra high capacity memory cards could take over at some point and these would be much lower power and more practical and durable.

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