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UMI Plus E - Helio P20 - 6/64GB - B20 4G - £183.58 - Gearbest

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Won't be for everyone of course but this phone has *massive* spec for the price. UMI may not be as well known as for example Xiaomi, but I have owned the UMI Super (which was released relatively r…
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Won't be for everyone of course but this phone has *massive* spec for the price.

UMI may not be as well known as for example Xiaomi, but I have owned the UMI Super (which was released relatively recently) and it was a great device. Well built, good battery life, vanilla android etc so I'd expect this to be the same, but better :)

This is, I believe, the first device running on the Helio P20 chip which is built on the 16nm process. Also, 6gb of dual channel 1600MHz RAM. Nice.

A certain member who always comments on import phones will be delighted to know that this has B20/800MHz for full UK 4G coverage :{

UMI Plus E Android 6.0 5.5 inch 4G Phablet Helio P20 Octa Core 2.3GHz 6GB RAM 64GB ROM Fingerprint Scanner
Main Features:
Display: 5.5 inch, 1920 x 1080 pixels screen
CPU: Helio P20 Octa Core 2.3GHz
System: Android 6.0
RAM + ROM: 6GB RAM + 64GB ROM & SD Card Support
Camera: 13.0MP rear camera + 5.0MP front camera
Sensor: Accelerometer, Ambient Light Sensor, E-Compass, Gravity Sensor, Hall Sensor, Proximity Sensor
SIM Card: dual SIM dual standby, dual micro SIM cards
Feature: GPS, A-GPS
Bluetooth: 4.0
Network:
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G: WCDMA 900/2100MHz
4G: FDD-LTE 800/1800/2100/2600MHz
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jymufc
these deals go to show how much the samsungs and the apples are ripping us off, heat


​Except it doesn't work like that does it?

Yes, Samsung and Apple are highly profitable but a significant proportion of the price of a phone pays for the hidden infrastructure costs we take for granted. For example, my Samsung has gone back to Samsung twice through issues beyond mine - or their control - and they fixed it for free, post free twice. So that's two sets of labour, 2 sets of parts, 4 sets of recorded post, and 4 sets of packaging. Let's call that a minimum of £150

To send it off, I took it into a Samsung store, of which there are dozens in the UK. I took it to a staff member who discussed with a colleague about the issues - both of whom take a salary - and I left it with them.

I got it back both times looking like new. Happy phone, happy customer.

And that infrastructure and after sales support is one of the key differences between the two. When buying from China/Hong Kong, we fret about when it will arrive, if it will arrive, how it will arrive, whether we'll be stung with Customs fees and if it's broken, how the hell we're going to send it back to an industrial estate in 广东省 深圳市. Oh yeah, and when we do send it back, we're without a phone for a month.

That's all before we look at the research and development costs, precision optics in the cameras, custom chipsets and global connectivity across iCloud or Samsung or Google or whatever.

Cheap phones and tier 1 handsets both have their benefits and you can absolutely argue that the gap is narrowing, but to suggest that consumers are being 'ripped off' is disingenuous at the very least.
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these deals go to show how much the samsungs and the apples are ripping us off, heat

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6 Likes #1
these deals go to show how much the samsungs and the apples are ripping us off, heat
1 Like #2
Nice phone apart from standard camera. This model is still pre-order atm and haven't seen a real release date anywhere.
1 Like #3
It's a beast.
I won't buy a phone without a Gyroscope, which all the Mediatek processors are missing.
Shame really, it's a cracking handset.
1 Like #4
will probably go cold, not because of the deal but because if gearbest
#5
super phone. micro sd slot?
banned#6
vickyindelhi
super phone. micro sd slot?
SD card is supported. If it's like the UMI Super it will be in SIM slot 2.
13 Likes #7
jymufc
these deals go to show how much the samsungs and the apples are ripping us off, heat


​Except it doesn't work like that does it?

Yes, Samsung and Apple are highly profitable but a significant proportion of the price of a phone pays for the hidden infrastructure costs we take for granted. For example, my Samsung has gone back to Samsung twice through issues beyond mine - or their control - and they fixed it for free, post free twice. So that's two sets of labour, 2 sets of parts, 4 sets of recorded post, and 4 sets of packaging. Let's call that a minimum of £150

To send it off, I took it into a Samsung store, of which there are dozens in the UK. I took it to a staff member who discussed with a colleague about the issues - both of whom take a salary - and I left it with them.

I got it back both times looking like new. Happy phone, happy customer.

And that infrastructure and after sales support is one of the key differences between the two. When buying from China/Hong Kong, we fret about when it will arrive, if it will arrive, how it will arrive, whether we'll be stung with Customs fees and if it's broken, how the hell we're going to send it back to an industrial estate in 广东省 深圳市. Oh yeah, and when we do send it back, we're without a phone for a month.

That's all before we look at the research and development costs, precision optics in the cameras, custom chipsets and global connectivity across iCloud or Samsung or Google or whatever.

Cheap phones and tier 1 handsets both have their benefits and you can absolutely argue that the gap is narrowing, but to suggest that consumers are being 'ripped off' is disingenuous at the very least.
1 Like #8
Yes it has Micro SD

http://des.gearbest.com/uploads/pdm-desc-pic/Electronic/image/2016/11/29/1480395040145122.jpg
http://des.gearbest.com/uploads/pdm-desc-pic/Electronic/image/2016/11/29/1480395039760447.jpg
4 Likes #9
daanuk
jymufc
these deals go to show how much the samsungs and the apples are ripping us off, heat


​Except it doesn't work like that does it?

Yes, Samsung and Apple are highly profitable but a significant proportion of the price of a phone pays for the hidden infrastructure costs we take for granted. For example, my Samsung has gone back to Samsung twice through issues beyond mine - or their control - and they fixed it for free, post free twice. So that's two sets of labour, 2 sets of parts, 4 sets of recorded post, and 4 sets of packaging. Let's call that a minimum of £150

To send it off, I took it into a Samsung store, of which there are dozens in the UK. I took it to a staff member who discussed with a colleague about the issues - both of whom take a salary - and I left it with them.

I got it back both times looking like new. Happy phone, happy customer.

And that infrastructure and after sales support is one of the key differences between the two. When buying from China/Hong Kong, we fret about when it will arrive, if it will arrive, how it will arrive, whether we'll be stung with Customs fees and if it's broken, how the hell we're going to send it back to an industrial estate in 广东省 深圳市. Oh yeah, and when we do send it back, we're without a phone for a month.

That's all before we look at the research and development costs, precision optics in the cameras, custom chipsets and global connectivity across iCloud or Samsung or Google or whatever.

Cheap phones and tier 1 handsets both have their benefits and you can absolutely argue that the gap is narrowing, but to suggest that consumers are being 'ripped off' is disingenuous at the very least.


​Keep telling yourself you are not getting ripped off by the branded mobile phone makers and you will probably start believing it yourself!!
2 Likes #10
reidy1970
daanuk
jymufc
these deals go to show how much the samsungs and the apples are ripping us off, heat
​Except it doesn't work like that does it?
Yes, Samsung and Apple are highly profitable but a significant proportion of the price of a phone pays for the hidden infrastructure costs we take for granted. For example, my Samsung has gone back to Samsung twice through issues beyond mine - or their control - and they fixed it for free, post free twice. So that's two sets of labour, 2 sets of parts, 4 sets of recorded post, and 4 sets of packaging. Let's call that a minimum of £150
To send it off, I took it into a Samsung store, of which there are dozens in the UK. I took it to a staff member who discussed with a colleague about the issues - both of whom take a salary - and I left it with them.
I got it back both times looking like new. Happy phone, happy customer.
And that infrastructure and after sales support is one of the key differences between the two. When buying from China/Hong Kong, we fret about when it will arrive, if it will arrive, how it will arrive, whether we'll be stung with Customs fees and if it's broken, how the hell we're going to send it back to an industrial estate in 广东省 深圳市. Oh yeah, and when we do send it back, we're without a phone for a month.
That's all before we look at the research and development costs, precision optics in the cameras, custom chipsets and global connectivity across iCloud or Samsung or Google or whatever.
Cheap phones and tier 1 handsets both have their benefits and you can absolutely argue that the gap is narrowing, but to suggest that consumers are being 'ripped off' is disingenuous at the very least.
​Keep telling yourself you are not getting ripped off by the branded mobile phone makers and you will probably start believing it yourself!!

He is not getting ripped off, he is getting what he is paying for. What you are paying for here is a midrange phone with some impressive numbers that mean little in reality. I would not pay over £100 for a phone with a MediaTek processor and I would never pay this kind of money for an imported device. Something like this at sub £100 would be a great deal, or if it was around £150 with an SD SoC then great as well, but this - this is a big risk.

Edited By: mynameisthehulk on Dec 15, 2016 11:28
1 Like #11
daanuk
jymufc
these deals go to show how much the samsungs and the apples are ripping us off, heat


​Except it doesn't work like that does it?

Yes, Samsung and Apple are highly profitable but a significant proportion of the price of a phone pays for the hidden infrastructure costs we take for granted. For example, my Samsung has gone back to Samsung twice through issues beyond mine - or their control - and they fixed it for free, post free twice. So that's two sets of labour, 2 sets of parts, 4 sets of recorded post, and 4 sets of packaging. Let's call that a minimum of £150

To send it off, I took it into a Samsung store, of which there are dozens in the UK. I took it to a staff member who discussed with a colleague about the issues - both of whom take a salary - and I left it with them.

I got it back both times looking like new. Happy phone, happy customer.

And that infrastructure and after sales support is one of the key differences between the two. When buying from China/Hong Kong, we fret about when it will arrive, if it will arrive, how it will arrive, whether we'll be stung with Customs fees and if it's broken, how the hell we're going to send it back to an industrial estate in 广东省 深圳市. Oh yeah, and when we do send it back, we're without a phone for a month.

That's all before we look at the research and development costs, precision optics in the cameras, custom chipsets and global connectivity across iCloud or Samsung or Google or whatever.

Cheap phones and tier 1 handsets both have their benefits and you can absolutely argue that the gap is narrowing, but to suggest that consumers are being 'ripped off' is disingenuous at the very least.


​the faults in samsungs and apple are a joke ive had a sony xperia z1 for 3 years without one fault in this time my missus has gone through 3 samsungs and 4 iphones and they have never been fixed by the companys once so yeah i would sooner run the risk and get a much better/cheaper phone from hong kong or where ever.

there all made in same place anyway its just these newer companys dont directly sell to europe and america yet.
1 Like #12
So helio P20 vs Snapdragon 820?
1 Like #13
waynehardy
will probably go cold, not because of the deal but because if gearbest

True dat. If it gets stolen in transit or breaks and needs to be repaired, you are totally f0oked. Gearbest are a bunch of thieving chimps ;)


Edited By: cb-uk on Dec 15, 2016 11:31
#14
cb-uk
waynehardy
will probably go cold, not because of the deal but because if gearbest
True dat. If it gets stolen in transit or breaks and needs to be repaired, you are totally f0oked.

And that is why they can stick as much pointless RAM in it as they like, if it fails you are writing off close to £200.
1 Like #15
mynameisthehulk
cb-uk
waynehardy
will probably go cold, not because of the deal but because if gearbest
True dat. If it gets stolen in transit or breaks and needs to be repaired, you are totally f0oked.
And that is why they can stick as much pointless RAM in it as they like, if it fails you are writing off close to £200.
Ermm, I'm sure legally you could get a charge back through the bank.
#16
hamzahuk
mynameisthehulk
cb-uk
waynehardy
will probably go cold, not because of the deal but because if gearbest
True dat. If it gets stolen in transit or breaks and needs to be repaired, you are totally f0oked.
And that is why they can stick as much pointless RAM in it as they like, if it fails you are writing off close to £200.
Ermm, I'm sure legally you could get a charge back through the bank.

Not for a grey import you can't, you have no legal protection whatsoever considering you are trying to circumvent import duty. Odd you seem to think it is ok for you to break the law but get legal protection after doing so?

Edited By: mynameisthehulk on Dec 15, 2016 11:41
3 Likes #17
hamzahuk
Ermm, I'm sure legally you could get a charge back through the bank.

There's probably more chance of you getting a BJ from your ex-wife after an acrimonious divorce than getting a charge-back accepted against Gearbest ;)
banned 3 Likes #18
mynameisthehulk
He is not getting ripped off, he is getting what he is paying for. What you are paying for here is a midrange phone with some impressive numbers that mean little in reality. I would not pay over £100 for a phone with a MediaTek processor and I would never pay this kind of money for an imported device. Something like this at sub £100 would be a great deal, or if it was around £150 with an SD SoC then great as well, but this - this is a big risk.

I don't want to make Hulk mad but I'm honestly interested in why you have such a poor opinion of MediaTek processors?

I've had a number of phones with older MediaTeks in, older generation processors were a bit pants for sure, but the Helio P10s and X20s I've had have been fine for what they are - no issues with GPS for example like I had with older MediaTeks.

Yes the Mali GPU isn't as good as Adreno, but for most people this wouldn't make any difference at all.

This is an octacore 2.3GHz on a 16nm process, seems pretty reasonable to me.


Edited By: lukec36 on Dec 15, 2016 11:56: tidying
#19
lukec36
mynameisthehulk
reidy1970
daanuk
jymufc
these deals go to show how much the samsungs and the apples are ripping us off, heat
​Except it doesn't work like that does it?
Yes, Samsung and Apple are highly profitable but a significant proportion of the price of a phone pays for the hidden infrastructure costs we take for granted. For example, my Samsung has gone back to Samsung twice through issues beyond mine - or their control - and they fixed it for free, post free twice. So that's two sets of labour, 2 sets of parts, 4 sets of recorded post, and 4 sets of packaging. Let's call that a minimum of £150
To send it off, I took it into a Samsung store, of which there are dozens in the UK. I took it to a staff member who discussed with a colleague about the issues - both of whom take a salary - and I left it with them.
I got it back both times looking like new. Happy phone, happy customer.
And that infrastructure and after sales support is one of the key differences between the two. When buying from China/Hong Kong, we fret about when it will arrive, if it will arrive, how it will arrive, whether we'll be stung with Customs fees and if it's broken, how the hell we're going to send it back to an industrial estate in 广东省 深圳市. Oh yeah, and when we do send it back, we're without a phone for a month.
That's all before we look at the research and development costs, precision optics in the cameras, custom chipsets and global connectivity across iCloud or Samsung or Google or whatever.
Cheap phones and tier 1 handsets both have their benefits and you can absolutely argue that the gap is narrowing, but to suggest that consumers are being 'ripped off' is disingenuous at the very least.
​Keep telling yourself you are not getting ripped off by the branded mobile phone makers and you will probably start believing it yourself!!
He is not getting ripped off, he is getting what he is paying for. What you are paying for here is a midrange phone with some impressive numbers that mean little in reality. I would not pay over £100 for a phone with a MediaTek processor and I would never pay this kind of money for an imported device. Something like this at sub £100 would be a great deal, or if it was around £150 with an SD SoC then great as well, but this - this is a big risk.
I don't want to make Hulk mad but I'm honestly interested in why you have such a poor opinion of MediaTek processors?
I've had a number of phones with older MediaTeks in, older generation processors were a bit pants for sure, but the Helio P10s and X20s I've had have been fine for what they are - no issues with GPS for example like I had with older MediaTeks.
Yes the Mali GPU isn't as good as Adreno, but for most people this wouldn't make any difference at all.
This is an octacore 2.3GHz on a 16nm process, seems pretty reasonable to me.

Lack of updates and poor memory management (hence the need for 6GB of RAM) are the two main issues
banned 1 Like #20
mynameisthehulk
Lack of updates and poor memory management (hence the need for 6GB of RAM) are the two main issues


FWIW UMI have released a beta Android 7 upgrade for this.

Edited By: lukec36 on Dec 15, 2016 11:57
#21
lukec36
mynameisthehulk
Lack of updates and poor memory management (hence the need for 6GB of RAM) are the two main issues
FWIW UMI have released a beta Android 7 upgrade for this.

You would expect a new phone to come with the current version of Android out of the box would you not? I would not hope for much after Nougat.
banned 1 Like #22
mynameisthehulk
lukec36
mynameisthehulk
Lack of updates and poor memory management (hence the need for 6GB of RAM) are the two main issues
FWIW UMI have released a beta Android 7 upgrade for this.
You would expect a new phone to come with the current version of Android out of the box would you not? I would not hope for much after Nougat.

Well yes but that is nit-picking slightly. How many new phones, SnapDragon, MediaTek, Exynos or Kirin are getting released with Nougat right now?

I'll stop now though. In case I make HULK SMASH ;)X)
#23
lukec36
mynameisthehulk
lukec36
mynameisthehulk
Lack of updates and poor memory management (hence the need for 6GB of RAM) are the two main issues
FWIW UMI have released a beta Android 7 upgrade for this.
You would expect a new phone to come with the current version of Android out of the box would you not? I would not hope for much after Nougat.
Well yes but that is nit-picking slightly. How many new phones, SnapDragon, MediaTek, Exynos or Kirin are getting released with Nougat right now?
I'll stop now though. In case I make HULK SMASH ;)X)

I know where you are coming from. I love imported devices - but I generally apply those rules above to reduce the risk of losing money to an acceptable level.
1 Like #24
I have a Umi Max, and for the money its ok. Good battery life.Yes camera could be better, as always. Its getting Nougat released on 24th Dec. Only thing is its advertised with gorilla glass 3 yet half an hour in my pocket with a chap stick (plastic with no hard edges) and the screen is covered in scratches. I expected better. Have been following Umi for a while. They seem to release a new phone quite frequently and the forums suggest they only support the previous one or two models. Also never had a problem with Gearbest or geekbuying.
#25
Zer0
Yes it has Micro SDhttp://des.gearbest.com/uploads/pdm-desc-pic/Electronic/image/2016/11/29/1480395040145122.jpghttp://des.gearbest.com/uploads/pdm-desc-pic/Electronic/image/2016/11/29/1480395039760447.jpg

Why cant sony put this battery in their own phones X)
1 Like #26
I would stay away from these, 10% of people who own one would reccomend it, this is not because the other 90% of people are lying or overexhagerating it just means the 10% reccomending got a good unit, these phones are not tested for quality like samsung s7s and iphones, they are not standardized and some batches of phones have problems because they are bulk buying parts and throwing them in phones without figurous testing, I would not waste your time 180£? just buy a flagship from last year which has better specs, yes it might not be brand new but they will be alot better IE s5, s6, lg g4, z5, htc one m9 ect
#27
I pre-ordered last month for £165 ;)
#28
cb-uk
waynehardy
will probably go cold, not because of the deal but because if gearbest
True dat. If it gets stolen in transit or breaks and needs to be repaired, you are totally f0oked. Gearbest are a bunch of thieving chimps ;)
Use Paypal as your payment provider,If you do not get the item delivered Paypal will get your money back,Paypal will also pay for return postage to China.
1 Like #29
Had the UMI iron which died a couple months back. Battery life was poor after a month and the paint was coming away very easily. Would not buy a phone again from them but the Bluetooth headphones where good I bought with the phone.
#30
Zer0
Yes it has Micro SD

http://des.gearbest.com/uploads/pdm-desc-pic/Electronic/image/2016/11/29/1480395040145122.jpg
http://des.gearbest.com/uploads/pdm-desc-pic/Electronic/image/2016/11/29/1480395039760447.jpg


​Big company's still ripping us off. I agree about what you are saying in regards to the support. You only have to look at oneplus though. On amazon now and selling through o2, premium handset for under £400. You buy an s7, your looking at at least £600. These big company's have to start dropping there prices or they will start losing customers. Lost me 2 years ago when I paid £250 for my one plus one, which still does a great job now and have never had a
problem.
#31
Pre-ordered this from http://www.banggood.com after really bad reviews for gearbest even though it was a bit cheaper. Paid using PayPal and they confirmed my purchase is protected if item not delivered. Banggood have told me they are getting stock on 20 Dec and will start shipping first come first serve basis so I expect to receive this mid-Jan. Paid £190 for it which I think is excellent based on specs. Also, I'll surely insure my phone once it's delivered.
#32
This looks good, the UMI Z, the first Heilo X27 Smartphone....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxCUio8rYgY&feature=youtu.be&a
1 Like #33
Showing £216.45 now.....
2 Likes #34
UMI Plus E now £180 on aliexpress.com, and aliexpress offer buyer payment protection too.

Seriously considering cancelling my preorder for UMI Plus E and preorder a Vernee Apollo, 2K screen, X25 deca-core cpu, and comes with a VR Box. £202 on aliexpress right now.

UMI Z has a better CPU/GPU and camera configuration. But the RAM is 4GB instead of 6GB and battery is 3780mah, not 4000mah.

Edited By: rickykohli on Dec 15, 2016 21:47
#35
Too much choice........
#36
True. So many Chinese companies selling quality products with excellent specs for very low prices. Just gotta make sure you use a buyer that accepts PayPal or use reputed sites likes Alibaba/aliexpress that offer buyer payment protection. I'm gonna get the Vernee Apollo and pay £11 for DHL delivery.
#37
I recently purchased an LG G3 off Ebay, i sadly coudnt get a signal on 3, so i returned it.

Am looking for a phone with a good camera....
#38
Do you have the link???
#39
rickykohli
True. So many Chinese companies selling quality products with excellent specs for very low prices. Just gotta make sure you use a buyer that accepts PayPal or use reputed sites likes Alibaba/aliexpress that offer buyer payment protection. I'm gonna get the Vernee Apollo and pay £11 for DHL delivery.
If you use Dhl you will pay Vat and an Administration cost direct to Dhl.
1 Like #40
Vernee Apollo has a 21mp camera, specs page

Buy here for $249.99 / £202 (RRP $299.99)

http://vernee.cc/apollo/specs.html#specs

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32776509759.html?trace=storeDetail2msiteDetail&spm=2114.12010608.0.0.Qn21kO#autostay



The upcoming UMI Plus Z has Dual Mode Dual ISP 13mp camera which should be better that the UMI Plus E's 13mp shooter.

http://www.umidigi.com/page-umi_z_overview.html

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