URC 8308 Kameleon 8 half price £34.99 @ Currys - HotUKDeals
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and in-store pick-up is possible if in stock.

URC 8308 Operates 8 devices
DVB-T/ Freeview, CD, AUDIO, DVD, SAT/CBL, VCR, TV, OFA Light Control

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#1
Great find richcbaker thanks.

Ordered one at my local store for pickup this evening.

Have owned the 1st & 2nd version.
The 1st version was good but a right pain sometimes as the unit lit up through vibration and came on even when you walked into the room so batteries lasted five minutes!

The 2nd version was great as it used touch to light up so a much better idea and batteries lasted months!

This new version uses the same touch control but has a lot of nice extra features so a great buy I think.

Heat added,

Thanks Jono.
#2
Welcome to the forums richcbaker:)
#3
Thanks have ordered one for pick up at my local store
#4
Price is showing as £70.00
#5
Still about locally for £35, guess similar to logiech Harmony?
#6
greenfinger
Still about locally for £35, guess similar to logiech Harmony?


No, very different.

The All-In-One Kameleon design is: press on TV button, the touch screen become a TV remote (close to the native remote), do what you want with the TV. Press on the DVD button, the touch screen become a DVD remote (close to the native remote), do what you want with the DVD. Etc.

Advantages:
- Reduce clutter: 1 remote replace several
- Easy to configure
- Easy to learn to use: press on correct device button and use as if native remote

Disadvantages:
- Doesn't really do anything the old remotes didn't do
- Controlling a complex setup requires a lot of key press
- Don't make using a complex system any easier than a remote collection

The Harmony's are a totally different concept: they work around "activities". The small LCD screen shows activities, you press on "watch DVD". The remote control, if setup properly then issues several commands to your setup: Turn on TV, turn on DVD, turn on AV amp, Set TV input to AV1 (where the DVD is connected), mute sound on TV, set AV amp input to DVD, start playing disc in DVD.

Advantages:
- reduce clutter
- Can potentially greatly simplify using a complex AV system
- saves a lot of key press
- A well setup remote can make a complex system usable by technophobes

Disadvantages:
- Requires a 3-year university course to correctly program the remote :)
- Some equipment without discreet code for on/off are difficult to get to work correctly.
- Not everybody cup of tea, requires a change of mindset
#7
Yant, thank you for such an informative update, I nearly bought one of these, when I really need the Harmony, the other feature I need is fingerprint recognition, so that the kids cant grab the control and change channel when I go and make the tea :-)
#8
greenfinger
Yant, thank you for such an informative update, I nearly bought one of these, when I really need the Harmony, the other feature I need is fingerprint recognition, so that the kids cant grab the control and change channel when I go and make the tea :-)


No good mate. They will simply cut off ya thumb with a spoon while you are asleep and use that. :-D
#9
I know these Kameleons have improved since the first version, which I was unfortuante enough to own briefly, but the Harmony range is so much better. Yant has made a pretty good job of explaining the difference in concept between the two ranges. However, I think it is worth pointing out a couple of things.

Firstly, you can use the Harmony remotes in device mode if find yourself struggling to get your head round the acitivity mode. Personally I wouldn't, but you can.

Secondly, the software for the Harmony remotes has improved markedly since I got my 655 remote a few years ago. In the past the software was so clunky and unintuitive that you had to invest so much in time in the set-up that you were tempted to give up.
#10
I fully agree that the Harmony remotes are superior, but for £35 I think this Kameleon is a good price at £34.99. I purchaced one of these and now have it controling my Xbox 360, original Xbox, Hifi, DVD player, LCD TV and cable box without too much fuss.
#11
greenfinger
Yant, thank you for such an informative update, I nearly bought one of these, when I really need the Harmony, the other feature I need is fingerprint recognition, so that the kids cant grab the control and change channel when I go and make the tea :-)


Be careful with the Harmony 'though. I would recommend them but there are quite a few peoples that give up trying to program them and end up throwing them in a bin in a fit of anger. Make sure you are willing to go through the pain of programming them before spending £43-£150 on such a remote. If you just want to reduce clutter, maybe the Kameleon is a simpler/safer option.

For information avforums.com have a remote control forums and more specific and probably less know is remotecentral.com forums (US-based but still relevant) with a specific Harmony forums at http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/rc-harmony/list.cgi

As for the kids:

1- Send on of them make you the cup of tea (might be difficult)
2- Give up on watching adult TV for another 20 years (It sometimes feel like that at home)
3- Make the system so complex that they can't figure it out (I've been trying that one but although they might not manage to do what they want, they still manage to mess up what you were watching even at 9 months when eating the remote.)
4- Secretly, without letting it known to anyone in the house, build a sound proofed home cinema room in the loft or garage (if you choose garage, it's safe since it can just be hidden underneath all the clutter and disused toys, for loft, you must be careful that the kids don't discover it while searching for hidden Christmas presents) Once done, you only need to find an excuse to disappear 3 hours at a time and never let anyone know about the secret room. (maybe fake having a mistress or something like that to detract attention)


Regarding this actual bargain: yes, this is a good deal for a Kameleon.
#12
Dr NO
I fully agree that the Harmony remotes are superior, but for £35 I think this Kameleon is a good price at £34.99. I purchaced one of these and now have it controling my Xbox 360, original Xbox, Hifi, DVD player, LCD TV and cable box without too much fuss.


Indeed, this is a very good price for a latest generation Kameleon. They are good remotes.

If you want a remote that you can get home, sit on the sofa and in 15 minutes have it control all your equipment as if you were still using your remote collection, this is a good one to get.

Don't get a Harmony unless you are prepared to go on the computer and willing to face the potential frustration of long, convoluted and difficult programming through a multiple step setup (I mean expect to count the programming time in hours to get it to do what you want! It might well take you several hours on the first night, then some more after you've used the remote for a while and have figured out what you've done wrong the first time of trying :-( ).
#13
yant;1455496
Indeed, this is a very good price for a latest generation Kameleon. They are good remotes.

If you want a remote that you can get home, sit on the sofa and in 15 minutes have it control all your equipment as if you were still using your remote collection, this is a good one to get.

Don't get a Harmony unless you are prepared to go on the computer and willing to face the potential frustration of long, convoluted and difficult programming through a multiple step setup (I mean expect to count the programming time in hours to get it to do what you want! It might well take you several hours on the first night, then some more after you've used the remote for a while and have figured out what you've done wrong the first time of trying :-( ).


I know where you are comng from, but the Harmony software really has improved and I find the versatility of being able to combine a number of devices into an activity really useful.
#14
have a larger pic courtesy amazon (£45 from marketplace sellers +post)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41DFsW1b2VL._SS500_.jpg
#15
I ordered mine yesterday and rushed to collect it last night. Rushed back home like a kid on his way to a party all excited. Took it out the bag, and it was the wrong one. :x

To be fare i didn't check as the guy put it straight in the bag. :oops:

Phoned them up and I can pick up the correct one today. :-D

Good spot OP heat has been added.

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