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Price drop in gamestation! The HD-DVD drive is now £49.99 at gamestation instore! A bargain IMO
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#1
This will be because Toshiba, the main proponent of HD DVD, is on the verge of dropping the format

See http://uk.news.yahoo.com/electric/20080215/ttc-the-bell-tolls-for-hd-dvd-70a53e7_2.html
#2
Voting cold as I dont think a HD-DVD drive is worth more than £20 as Blue-Ray is creaming the market:thumbsup:
#3
meant to vote on the deal not the mechanics of the market!
Like saying - yeah these beans are good at 4p/can but voted cold because spaghetti hoops taste nicer..
Dying format or not - there's some real bargains around on HD-DVD films at the moment, and you have to play em on something - blueray players wont work,

Great deal - voted hot.
#4
excellent deal voted hot,
#5
esclad
This will be because Toshiba, the main proponent of HD DVD, is on the verge of dropping the format

See http://uk.news.yahoo.com/electric/20080215/ttc-the-bell-tolls-for-hd-dvd-70a53e7_2.html


I agree with the article, neither will win in the long run - its a bit of a hollow victory for Blue-ray if thats the way its going. The lifespan of HD or Blue Ray was never going to match that of VHS videos or DVD's as the technology is evolving faster now. By the time this battle is completely settled then it will be irrelevent. To the ordinary man on the street its not worth upgrading to HD or Blue-ray at the moment as they have probably got 2 or 3 dvd players around the home and lots still haven't got HD TV's to take advantage of the format. I think we will be downloading more to our PC's or devices in the coming years and streaming stuff around the house, so discs won't be needed. You can already do it, but it will become cheaper and easier. We may even be going to shops with memory sticks to put into a machine and select a movie to buy then taking it home to plug into your PC or other device to watch in glorious HD. Whatever happens you are guaranteed that something is around the corner to replace Blue-ray and HD. Anyone else got any ideas for the future? :idea:

p.s. I have an Xbox360 but I wouldn't buy the HD drive, but its still a good price if you really want one :)
#6
Fair points but digital downloads wont meet the quality of HD-DVD or Blu for years to come, when we can shift 30gb down someones home internet then things will change.

(Although by that time there will be another war with huge 100gb to 1000gb disc formats all competing all over again.)

The quality isnt massively different but considering the codecs are similar to disc formats then something has to go to make up for the 20gb lost.
#7
Voted cold for 3 reasons

1) its second hand and should be cheaper for something used

2) leave the 360 for what it does best playing games, and if you really want a HDDVD player get a standalone one. They will be much quieter.

3) the format is DEAD , its deceased , its no more etc.
#8
good deal as I want transformers in HD
#9
chevychase


3) the format is DEAD , its deceased , its no more etc.


yawnnnnnnnn
banned#10
actually you may want to consider buying one if you use your xbox for playing DVDs as using this drive will increase the life of the one inside your xbox and reduce wear and tear.....
#12
Regardless of format; it is good for using as a Upscaling Dvd player.

I'm lazy and would rather put a movie in the that drive than swapping the game disc over each time..

Its a good price for an add DVD drive. plus it can be used as a portable DVD on a normal PC
#13
Worth picking up a drive when they become £20. It's would be a quick and cheap way to enter to HD. I'm sure you'll be able to pick up HD-DVDs for under£5 soon :)
#14
Mr Pants
Fair points but digital downloads wont meet the quality of HD-DVD or Blu for years to come, when we can shift 30gb down someones home internet then things will change.

(Although by that time there will be another war with huge 100gb to 1000gb disc formats all competing all over again.)

The quality isnt massively different but considering the codecs are similar to disc formats then something has to go to make up for the 20gb lost.


Not to sound geeky or anything but 30gb connection is possible and has been done. Somewhere in germany someone has a 40gb connection meaning she can download a hd film in 2 seconds lol
#15
smokedog
Worth picking up a drive when they become £20. It's would be a quick and cheap way to entry to HD. I'm sure you'll be able to pick up HD-DVDs for under£5 soon :)


"Entry" and standing still. :roll:

It's Blu-Ray. Its won. The War is over. :thumbsup:

Toshiba to give up on HD DVD, end format war: source
http://uk.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUKL163797462008021

You're basically buying a set of films that will work on the one HD DVD Player in your house. If you buy more players then something is really wrong and if you think Dual -HD DVD/Blu Ray will ever be cheap enough to cover the cost of saving a fiver at most of these films then you shouldn't be allowed to pay utility bills.

DVDs get shared between friends, they exist longer than players. I can remember buy the first films from costso ten years ago, what happened to the device they run on. They've been and gone yet I still watch those same discs today. You need a solid format for the future otherwise you're limited to what you will ever be able to view it on.

Whooosh straight over their heads :whistling:
#16
professor yaffle
I agree with the article, neither will win in the long run - its a bit of a hollow victory for Blue-ray if thats the way its going. The lifespan of HD or Blue Ray was never going to match that of VHS videos or DVD's as the technology is evolving faster now. By the time this battle is completely settled then it will be irrelevent. To the ordinary man on the street its not worth upgrading to HD or Blue-ray at the moment as they have probably got 2 or 3 dvd players around the home and lots still haven't got HD TV's to take advantage of the format. I think we will be downloading more to our PC's or devices in the coming years and streaming stuff around the house, so discs won't be needed. You can already do it, but it will become cheaper and easier. We may even be going to shops with memory sticks to put into a machine and select a movie to buy then taking it home to plug into your PC or other device to watch in glorious HD. Whatever happens you are guaranteed that something is around the corner to replace Blue-ray and HD. Anyone else got any ideas for the future? :idea:

p.s. I have an Xbox360 but I wouldn't buy the HD drive, but its still a good price if you really want one :)


What a load of nonsense. Blu-ray has a heap of capacity left compared to hd-dvd. This means that the film quailty can get even higher or you can have a shed load of extra content. Blu-ray is not yet being exploited to its full potential and will be around for a long while yet, especially after this astronomically expensive format war.
#17
Toshiba Pulls the Plug on HD DVD - Ends Format War
>> From nhk.or.jp:
[QUOTE]
Toshiba Corporation has decided to withdraw from next generation high-definition DVD production.

The company said it will continue to sell HD-DVD products for a while but will stop further development of HD DVD. Meanwhile, it said its DVD factories in Aomori Prefecture, northern Japan, would be closed.

Market observers said that Toshiba could suffer a loss of hundreds of millions of US dollars.
#18
anyone else want to post that toshiba have pulled the plug on hd-dvd? i mean 3 times in one thread can't be enough can it?
banned#19


[QUOTE=Firefly01]Toshiba Pulls the Plug on HD DVD - Ends Format War
>> From nhk.or.jp:

Toshiba Corporation has decided to withdraw from next generation high-definition DVD production.

The company said it will continue to sell HD-DVD products for a while but will stop further development of HD DVD. Meanwhile, it said its DVD factories in Aomori Prefecture, northern Japan, would be closed.

Market observers said that Toshiba could suffer a loss of hundreds of millions of US dollars.

lol where do toshiba say this? One website has reported that they intend to but Toshiba themselves have said nothing on the matter, no press statement etc?

Dont get me wrong im sure its coming.....
#20
Toshiba? What have they pulled the plug on HD-DVD ? I'd missed that.
banned#21
hey guys I was thinking about throwing my money into the ring and joining either HD DVD or Blu-ray and buying a player of one or the other, Im just nor sure which one is the more future proof format. which one would you recommend :S
#22
Proximo
hey guys I was thinking about throwing my money into the ring and joining either HD DVD or Blu-ray and buying a player of one or the other, Im just nor sure which one is the more future proof format. which one would you recommend :S


get a betamax...you know it makes sense :thumbsup:
#23
I think its a bit harsh that people are voting cold simply due to the format of the DVD drive.

Surely, the voting system is simply to vote how hot the deal is based on its normal RRP in which case this should be hot because its half the normal price? :?
#24
my xbox sounds like a jet taking off.
I can't even imagine trying to watch a movie with that racket going off!
#25
Proximo;1592860
[QUOTE=Firefly01]Toshiba Pulls the Plug on HD DVD - Ends Format War
>> From nhk.or.jp:

lol where do toshiba say this? One website has reported that they intend to but Toshiba themselves have said nothing on the matter, no press statement etc?

Dont get me wrong im sure its coming.....


Toshiba, Universal and Paramount will make a joint announcement regarding their withdrawal from the HD DVD format on Monday or Tuesday. It was reportedly to be made on friday but preperations were not finished in time.
#26
VikJ;1592998
I think its a bit harsh that people are voting cold simply due to the format of the DVD drive.

Surely, the voting system is simply to vote how hot the deal is based on its normal RRP in which case this should be hot because its half the normal price? :?

A hot deal in my opinion is something that is useful to the person buying it and at a good price. I not going to vote hot on something that will be worthless in 6 months.

Its £50 now and its at that price for a reason. They will be worth next to nothing in a few months...hot deal?
#27
stratomaster
my xbox sounds like a jet taking off.
I can't even imagine trying to watch a movie with that racket going off!


It's not as noisy when you are playing a hd-dvd , plus the fact that the surround sound usually drowns out any noise
#28
smokedog
A hot deal in my opinion is something that is useful to the person buying it and at a good price. I not going to vote hot on something that will be worthless in 6 months.

Its £50 now and its at that price for a reason. They will be worth next to nothing in a few months...hot deal?



I love idiots like this, why will it be worthless it still HAS titles out there.

As for saying it should cost £20 thats cheaper than most DVD players that are any good.

And £50 is still cheap for a good upscaler.
banned#29
smokedog


Its £50 now and its at that price for a reason. They will be worth next to nothing in a few months...hot deal?

not true as I already said......anyone who uses their xbox to play dvds as an upscaler should buy one to reduce the wear on their xbox drive, also it works as a dvd reader on PCs etc, I know HD DVD is dead but this is still a cheap ext DVD reader however you look at it
#30
This is a hot topic on my forum too. HD-DVD will gear towards the data side of the market imo. The capacity argument doesn't stand. Newer HD-DVD capcaity is 51GB, it's been approved.

The thing that the Blu-Ray consortium has going for it? The PS3. The PS2 was one of the major factors of why DVD was such a phenominal success. When parents realised it doubled up as a DVD movie player, they soon grabbed little Jimmy's console and had it pride of place in the living room as it was actually cheaper to buy a PS2 then a standalone DVD player. The PS3 will eventually do the same....once it's in a reasonable pricing bracket.

Tosh actually haven't confirmed them dropping the format (movies wise) yet, it's all experts and analyst speculative speak. But with five of the seven major studios carrying BR, it won't be long.

Cullet16, even at 40gbit (bit not bytes) speeds, there's no way a person in Germany downloaded a movie in 2 seconds. Couldn't be done. 40/8=5120kbpps (give or take a few K) max download speed. To achieve that kinda speed, you'd need someone with an equal supersonic provider. Even then, to download an HD movie would take significantly longer than 2 seconds.
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smokedog
A hot deal in my opinion is something that is useful to the person buying it and at a good price. I not going to vote hot on something that will be worthless in 6 months.

Its £50 now and its at that price for a reason. They will be worth next to nothing in a few months...hot deal?


I see your point but I think Ill buy one - not at this price, waiting for it to go even lower. If I get the chance to pick one up at £30 then Ill buy. Couple that with some cheap HD disc prices and I could pick up most of my fave films for just a few quid. I think its worth it. So what if I cant buy any more for it come a few months time, around £30 is a throw away price and after all it will still physically work. Ill prob also get a bluray drive at some point in the future but at the moment theyre just too expensive.
#32
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35643

If Harry says RIP, it will be...
#33
OrangeJuice
What a load of nonsense. Blu-ray has a heap of capacity left compared to hd-dvd. This means that the film quailty can get even higher or you can have a shed load of extra content. Blu-ray is not yet being exploited to its full potential and will be around for a long while yet, especially after this astronomically expensive format war.


Don't forget that Sony came up with the mini-disc idea and look what happened to that! :w00t:
1 Like #34
Proximo
hey guys I was thinking about throwing my money into the ring and joining either HD DVD or Blu-ray and buying a player of one or the other, Im just nor sure which one is the more future proof format. which one would you recommend :S


Netiher.

HD-DVD (and i say this as an owner of a 360 add-on) has no future right now. If you already have a drive and media then fine, and there'll be some good deals in the next few months but that's about it.

Blu-Ray isn't finished yet with Profile 2.0 scheduled for sometime later this year. Unfortunately there isn't a standalone Blu-Ray player on the market that can be upgraded when this profile hits which means that, while you should be able to play the movies you won't be able to access all the bonus features. The PS3 CAN be upgraded but as it doesn't have analogue outputs so unless you have a surrounded amp that can take a HDMI input you can't get HD sound out of the PS3. Plus the price of entry is around £300 which is WAY too high if you're not sure you're going to really get a lot of use from the device.

Oh and the media cost is ridiculous compared to DVD's at the moment...

I'd say wait for a while longer, let the player price come down, let the media price drop and keep an eye on the various media services (Virgin, Sky etc) and see what their HD offerings give you.
banned#35
eripmav
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35643

If Harry says RIP, it will be...


lol who is this shmuck he doesnt say anytthing the news sites dont (but he still manages to say it in twice the amount of words)

Still waiting on toshiba to come out and actually confirm all of this grrrrr
#36
BOFH_UK
Netiher.


Here, here! :thumbsup:
banned#37
BOFH_UK
Netiher.

HD-DVD (and i say this as an owner of a 360 add-on) has no future right now. If you already have a drive and media then fine, and there'll be some good deals in the next few months but that's about it.

Blu-Ray isn't finished yet with Profile 2.0 scheduled for sometime later this year. Unfortunately there isn't a standalone Blu-Ray player on the market that can be upgraded when this profile hits which means that, while you should be able to play the movies you won't be able to access all the bonus features. The PS3 CAN be upgraded but as it doesn't have analogue outputs so unless you have a surrounded amp that can take a HDMI input you can't get HD sound out of the PS3. Plus the price of entry is around £300 which is WAY too high if you're not sure you're going to really get a lot of use from the device.

Oh and the media cost is ridiculous compared to DVD's at the moment...

I'd say wait for a while longer, let the player price come down, let the media price drop and keep an eye on the various media services (Virgin, Sky etc) and see what their HD offerings give you.


:w00t:
#38
ryouga;1593031
I love idiots like this, why will it be worthless it still HAS titles out there.

There's still laser disc title available too, you going to buy one of them?

I was referring to the value. If you go to other forums you see users by the dozen "trying" off loading their HD-DVD items.

ryouga;1593031

And £50 is still cheap for a good upscaler.

Did you pop out of your mama's a*se yesterday? The drive doesn't upscale, the 360 does. It's a bog standard external HD-DVD.
banned#39
smokedog

Did you pop out of your mama's a*se yesterday? The drive doesn't upscale, the 360 does. It's a bog standard external HD-DVD.


Oh I was wondering where babies came from O.o
#40
voted hot because it is a great price, regardless of HD-DVD being dead or whether it's preowned or not.

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