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DUAL LAYER FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COLD VOTERS. NOT NORMAL 4.7GB DVD'S
Printable Dual Layer Verbatims at a reasonable price. Postage of £3.49 knocks the price up a little but still not a bad price for these excellent DUAL LAYER discs.
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#1
I rather get Aone ones from Ebuyer for 40p each - especially seeing as how the 30 or so Ive used so far have all worked perfectly.
#2
Why are DL discs SOOOOOOO expensive? They have hardly come down over the last few years..
#3
Pepp77
I rather get Aone ones from Ebuyer for 40p each - especially seeing as how the 30 or so Ive used so far have all worked perfectly.


scan them and when they look something like this or even worse or worse start crying

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#5
dontasciime
scan them and when they look like this or worse start crying


Missing link?

I don't know much about dual-layer discs but have heard that verbatims are good. Not sure why this is so cold unless they are cheaper elsewhere.
#6
Pepp77
I rather get Aone ones from Ebuyer for 40p each - especially seeing as how the 30 or so Ive used so far have all worked perfectly.


But not everybody can get away with using aones, especially since they recently changed their dye and called them aones plus which are notoriously pap.

You can try Elites from SVP, seem to work.

These are by far the most robust, seem to work first time everytime and the this is the best price I have seen for them.

I imagine it's cold because trigger happytmuppets who have no idea what DL disks are, are getting their gruppy little mits on the mouse button.
#7
These are excellent discs and well worth the extra cash over the cheap stuff. These are what you want to buy if you make backups of your 360 games. I've used well over 70 of these discs and NEVER once had a bad burn or one go wrong :thumbsup:. Although I prefer to buy from SVP since they will tell you where the discs were manufactured which can be important with verbatim dual layers (Singapore=good, India=not so much).
#8
ms2005
But not everybody can get away with using aones, especially since they recently changed their dye and called them aones plus which are notoriously pap.

You can try Elites from SVP, seem to work.

These are by far the most robust, seem to work first time everytime and the this is the best price I have seen for them.

I imagine it's cold because trigger happytmuppets who have no idea what DL disks are, are getting their gruppy little mits on the mouse button.


Just ordered 50 Elites from there, something like £11 for 50 so will see how we go. Lot cheaper than Verbs so fingers crossed :)
#9
bobdylan
Just ordered 50 Elites from there, something like £11 for 50 so will see how we go. Lot cheaper than Verbs so fingers crossed :)


Hit and miss for me, the first 50 nor clone cd or imgburn could even read the dye specification from the disk from the first half a dozen in the spindle so SVP just sent me a new batch.

Since I had two batches then I tried some from the middle of the spindle, a few have worked properly, a few have burned and failed verification at the layer break and others are back to the not reading dye problem.

For £16 delivered you can't really complain, even if 50% work.

For real results verbs are the way to go but like many people say, you can afford to buy a lot of Elites and / or aones and chuck half out for the money of verbs.
#10
ms2005
Hit and miss for me, the first 50 nor clone cd or imgburn could even read the dye specification from the disk from the first half a dozen in the spindle so SVP just sent me a new batch.

Since I had two batches then I tried some from the middle of the spindle, a few have worked properly, a few have burned and failed verification at the layer break and others are back to the not reading dye problem.

For £16 delivered you can't really complain, even if 50% work.

For real results verbs are the way to go but like many people say, you can afford to buy a lot of Elites and / or aones and chuck half out for the money of verbs.


Cheers for the heads up :)
#11
OMG HOW MUCH !!!!! :lazy::lazy:
#12
does depend on the writer, i've had about 15 Aones so far burn fine - benq/philips drive
#13
[email protected]
OMG HOW MUCH !!!!! :lazy::lazy:


Classic example of somebody who doesn't have a clue!
#14
bobdylan
Just ordered 50 Elites from there, something like £11 for 50 so will see how we go. Lot cheaper than Verbs so fingers crossed :)


Even if 25 of them fail burning your still quids up.. but itsthe hassle factor i guess..

Rick
#15
RickT
Even if 25 of them fail burning your still quids up.. but itsthe hassle factor i guess..

Rick


False economy

25 verbs = 25 quality burns)MIS MKM-001-00 (03) 25 from 50 and (see below) what quality and for how long till you have to re burn buy new gear etc


You really need to scan the Ricoh disc's to make sure of burn. In the same way as writing finishes without warning does not mean it's readable until verified.

Burning a disc and then having parity outer failures means the data is useless, high PI and PIF indicate poor quality burn and jitter correction re-reading is occurring in your hardware , wearing out the mechanics quicker than needed. Granted a lot more money when £285 *which is what I paid for my Sony a long time ago, which is still working fine) for a Sony dvd writer and now they are so cheap but still why break something sooner than needs be.

I have well over 40 dvd writers and lots of all types of Media / dye / disc's and lot's of burns to compare with and some cheap disc's can give better results than expected but you need to be testing them to say if that is true, rather than just assuming co's it wrote it's fine, there is a bit more science to it than that.
#16
I knew it was a chance posting this but hopefully some of you will get a deal. Don't see the point in compairing these with Aones ( how noisy is your drive when reading Aones? It'll be dead sooner than using these ) And as for the Play.com 10.99 deal. To buy 25 would work out over £27 so these are cheaper. eg 5 boxes at £10.99 = £54.95. 2 boxes of these at £22.49 + postage = £48.47.
#17
tawke
I knew it was a chance posting this but hopefully some of you will get a deal. Don't see the point in compairing these with Aones ( how noisy is your drive when reading Aones? It'll be dead sooner than using these ) And as for the Play.com 10.99 deal. To buy 25 would work out over £27 so these are cheaper. eg 5 boxes at £10.99 = £54.95. 2 boxes of these at £22.49 + postage = £48.47.



So everyone voted cold eh.

Mind you If these disc's are Made In India and are a poor batch or they are from China and a poor batch I would have voted Cold *If I had bought them wrote and scanned them and quality rating of 80% or less.

As generally speaking Verbatim, Made In Singapore has a higher Quality Manufacturing process than the ones from MBI plant in India or from China.

Things change all the time though
#18
Voted hot.

I do hope those using Aones etc verify the media after you write to it... A successful burn doesn't mean the data can be successfully read back. Most badly made DLs fail at the layerbreak. Verbatims are the weapon of choice. A little over a quid per disc - no argument really.

Can someone explain why this is so cold? Although if you're going to say you're too cheap to buy good quality media, don't bother !
#19
dontasciime
So everyone voted cold eh.

Mind you If these disc's are Made In India and are a poor batch or they are from China and a poor batch I would have voted Cold *If I had bought them wrote and scanned them and quality rating of 80% or less.

As generally speaking Verbatim, Made In Singapore has a higher Quality Manufacturing process than the ones from MBI plant in India or from China.

Things change all the time though


The Singapore discs are difficult to get hold of at the moment. The last batch I bought were from India and I was sceptical but they are fine. I guess they've got their act together now.

Shame about the cold votes and since noone has posted a cheaper deal I can only assume they don't know about Vebs and DL discs in general.

Most people probably think 25 DVDs for £25. Rip off :whistling:
#20
#21
verbatim = safer if you use live due to disc verification checks ms do.... cheap media = bad results sent to ms when they send commands to your drive during online play.

How do I know well simple really I have experience and have helped with the ixtreme fw releases and also have access to special firmware that tests what ms are checking when booting games whilst on live,

so possible

cheap media could get you banned from live.

i have always used verb well since may 06 and never been banned, m8's have used cheap discs and some have been banned, maybe poor quality discs helped them get banned I really dont know but we all used same games just I used verbs is the only difference.

make up your own minds

games are 30 / 40 pounds each verbs are 25 / 30 for 25

you do the math

:)

I rest my case voted HOT HOT HOT

btw they look ace if you print a custom disc image on them (if you have one of the many disc printers)
#22
Even putting aside the obvious use as 360 backups, reliability is paramount if you want to use these to store photos / personal data / etc.

F4RR3LL
games are 30 / 40 pounds each verbs are 25 / 30 for 25


Why are you comparing the cost of originals with these - you're using these to backup your originals, yes?
#23
I'm with the crowd of people who know how cheap this Amazing quality media is!! When you rely on a media to burn and work everytime, whats the point in saving a few quid on sh!t disks?

If there was something I didn't have a clue about I wouldn't vote it cold, just ignore it or read up about it first.

Anyway...voted hot, pity about the postage cost I know its only 3.50 but still.. Paul
#24
The Singapore discs are difficult to get hold of at the moment. The last batch I bought were from India and I was sceptical but they are fine. I guess they've got their act together now.


Chinese made ones you gotta watch out for now. LOL (well on single layer 4 sure) as the batch I got from china are terrible and the Indian ones from same shipment were excellent) in comparision

Verbatim#43548 MADE IN CHINA See below

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#25
For comparison Verbatim #43500 Made In India

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I 19:58:47 Initialising SPTI...
I 19:58:47 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 19:58:47 Found 1 DVD-ROM, 2 DVD±RWs, 3 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 BD-RE/HD DVD-ROM!
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