ViewSonic VX2835wm 28" TFT Widescreen [1920x1200 800:1 500cd/m2 3ms HDMI/VGA Speakers] Gloss Black 3 Years Warranty - £339.29 delivered @ Ebuyer! - HotUKDeals
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This ViewSonic VX2835wm 28" TFT Widescreen [1920x1200 800:1 500cd/m2 3ms HDMI/VGA Speakers] Gloss Black and come with 3 Years Warranty - £339.29 delivered @ Ebuyer!

ViewSonic's 28" VX2835wm widescreen LCD amplifies your desktop experience. With ultra-fast response time and integrated speakers and amp, the VX2835wm offers high-performance features that elevate your desktop to a whole new level. Work more productively on the expansive 27.5" widescreen display. Play more intensely with HD games, movies and videos in their native format. Multiple video connections including HDMI. Let you select the best input source for your digital entertainment. The high contrast ratio and high brightness produce remarkably bright and rich colors. Integrated digital speakers and VESA wall-mount compliance save space and reduce desktop clutter. The VX2835wm is perfect for the serious gamer and movie aficionado who want a complete digital entertainment experience on the desktop.
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#1
Blooming hell! 24" are more expensive than this!
#2
Viewsonic monitors are the mutt's nut's IMO

I got a 19" VX922, I believe the first TFT with 2ms response time - it's superb for gaming.

Their warranty is outstanding, I had one dead pixel and they swapped it out without question.
#3
Any idea of the panel type? i take it it wont be a PVA at that price.
#4
It must be a TN panel at the price, great deal though ;)
#5
My desk isnt big enough for this! lol
#6
Your desk? My room isn't big enough for this! lol
#7
Just read an in-depth 5 page review and it summed up by saying 'you get what you pay for' rather than 'wow this is awesome for the money'.

I'm not gonna vote cold because it's a great price, but would I buy this over a far better quality 24" model? No.

Just my 2 cents.

Oh, heres the review: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2175182,00.asp
#8
Interesting. This was £400+ a few months ago; perhaps the release of the Dell 2707 prompted the price cut. Not quite sure whether it's hot or cold when compared to the Dell. Hmmm...
#9
hmm just watch, a good 24" would be much better
#10
greyhorse
hmm just watch, a good 24" would be much better

I agree unless you aren't so fussed about quality and want a monster monitor for TV viewing.
#11
Quote**The high contrast ratio and high brightness produce remarkably bright and rich colors***

800:1 is not a high contrast ratio nowadays, and looks like the only thing not going for this otherwise nice spec screen, but for the size of screen not bad, for Films and games a higher Contrast ratio would be needed.
#12
Yomanda
Quote**The high contrast ratio and high brightness produce remarkably bright and rich colors***

800:1 is not a high contrast ratio nowadays, and looks like the only thing not going for this otherwise nice spec screen, but for the size of screen not bad, for Films and games a higher Contrast ratio would be needed.


800:1 is more than sufficient for a PC Monitor. We are not talking about a tv here with a plucked out of the air 30000:1 'dynamic' contrast ratio.

Most top of the line PC monitors are only 1000:1 and I say 'only' because its a true reflection of the contrast ratio unlike the nonsense the TV manufacturers use.
#13
I've been eyeing up 24" monitors for a couple of months, and at this price for 28, I've been utterly sold.

This site give it 3.5/5 in recognition of the fact that not everything about the monitor is stellar. However, their conclusion is:

"we recommend you just pick up this product... without a second thought. "
#14
Viewsonic are one of the best gaming / graphics monitor makers.. I got 2 of them a VX922 and a VG1930wm

would love to get this but the old ones are still going well..
#15
Shock
Viewsonic are one of the best gaming / graphics monitor makers.. I got 2 of them a VX922 and a VG1930wm

would love to get this but the old ones are still going well..


Mine is still going fine as well. It was 300 quid when new, 2 years ago, and wasn't the cheapest 20" monitor around then, but was simply at the top of its game.

This one is not at the top of its game, but is probably worth the money :)

I'll be sad to see my VX2025 go, but keep telling myself that the tech has probably come a long way in two years, and the new one will probably be just as good.
#16
this is seriously tempting me to sell off both my 22" monitors to get it

its certainly a hell of a lot cheaper than the 27" dell and samsung screens (all three of them are actually 27.5" )
#17
Ev0lution
800:1 is more than sufficient for a PC Monitor. We are not talking about a tv here with a plucked out of the air 30000:1 'dynamic' contrast ratio.

Most top of the line PC monitors are only 1000:1 and I say 'only' because its a true reflection of the contrast ratio unlike the nonsense the TV manufacturers use.


Sorry totally disagree with that, 800:1 is totally unacceptable nowadays the blacks would almost be grey on that spec.
I Would sooner get a smaller Samsung Pebble SM2232BW 22" TFT Monitor Widescreen 1680x1050 3000:1 300cd/m2 2ms VGA/DVI £209.99 any day! And sacrifice size for quality and a lot cheaper!
#18
Agharta
I agree unless you aren't so fussed about quality and want a monster monitor for TV viewing.

Then get a TV.
#19
Yomanda
Sorry totally disagree with that, 800:1 is totally unacceptable nowadays the blacks would almost be grey on that spec.
I Would sooner get a smaller Samsung Pebble 22" TFT Monitor Widescreen 1680x1050 3000:1 300cd/m2 2ms VGA/DVI £209.99 any day! And sacrifice size for quality and a lot cheaper!

But that’s not even a particularly good monitor (TN panel) and is overpriced! :thinking: – Review.
#20
Adamo
Then get a TV.

:) It’s a good point; what makes a better all rounder, a 26” TV or a similar size monitor?
It may be down to priorities; if it’s used primarily as a monitor then a monitor may well be the best option and vice versa.
#21
I read people saying it’s a Viewsonic therefore it’s automatically good which is rather a blanket statement and naïve with it. I had a Viewsonic 20” and was generally happy with it but it wouldn’t work at all with certain DVI outputs from Intel chipsets; the number one maker of VGA chips by market share.
A neighbour bought a 22” Viewsonic recently and it’s not bad but it’s nothing special.
I used to think they were above average from their reputation back in the CRT days but they seem generally middle of the road these days at best.
#22
Having said that though this is a 28" monitor with a 24" monitor resolution!
#23
C'mon guys and gals - you know you all want the Hazro S-IPS panel really! Absolutely superb screen is that ...

28" at this resolution is impressive for an HDTV, but not all that great for a monitor really. Be prepared for huge pixels. Still, I can't deny that it is a good price. I'd just prefer the 24" Hazro any day of the week (and reviews will tell you just how good it is).
#24
the pixel size thing really depends on how far back you have your screen tho... The bigger it is the further you would normally have it back....

the pixels on my projector for instance are huge up close but you dont see them when youre a few metres back :)

The hazro is a better screen but its smaller and £100 more...
#25
Agharta
I read people saying it’s a Viewsonic therefore it’s automatically good which is rather a blanket statement and naïve with it.


You're reading too much into my comments if you think I'm one of them. I'll say this much: Viewsonic do offer better than average quality in my experience, and they've continued to do so in the LCD era, albeit not as consistently. On average they're still a very good bet, but not every product is top notch.

This monitor, for example, is not going to win too many prizes so far as I can tell. It is just average, in quality. However, it is just average at a price which is a lot better than the competition. This makes it very tempting for those of us that like 'em large - and it's very unlikely to be utter ****, like some no-name HDTVs.

It's a vote in favour of hot, for sure. But if you're a videophile, the fidelity of some of the high-quality 24" panels will be noticably superior.

Those of you who think the pixels will be too big fall into three categories:

a) Superman
b) Sits with cornea resting on monitor
c) Wrong
#26
Most likely TN going by the viewing angles.

If you want VA though then have a look here, bargain for £200 and 24" http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145399/show_product_reviews
#27
You are meant to sit at roughly 3x the picture size away from the screen for watching TV ...

... so for 28", you *should* be sitting 84" away, which is 7 feet away. For using as a PC though, it will not mean you can fit more on your screen than a 24" - It just means that what does fit will be bigger!
#28
crazyal;2590598
Just read an in-depth 5 page review and it summed up by saying 'you get what you pay for' rather than 'wow this is awesome for the money'.

I'm not gonna vote cold because it's a great price, but would I buy this over a far better quality 24" model? No.

Just my 2 cents.

Oh, heres the review: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2175182,00.asp


I read the same review:

We've seen worse monitors, but we've seen plenty of better ones, too. If you just have to have something larger than 24-inch and you can't spend several hundred dollars more, you won't be totally disappointed with the VX2835wm. If you really care about quality, you're better off spending more (or at least settling for a same-priced 24-inch display).
I care about quality more (and I don't need 28"!) so I'd do exactly as the review suggests and get a better quality 24". Still voting hot, though.

A more flattering review from PC World

Reading user reviews, most people seem to be quite happy with the quality. I think it'll please the general masses but gamers, multimedia professionals etc. will be left disappointed.
#29
Shock;2591611
Viewsonic are one of the best gaming / graphics monitor makers.. I got 2 of them a VX922 and a VG1930wm

would love to get this but the old ones are still going well..


All manufacturers have produced good and bad screens. No one has a 100% record. Not Samsung, not Viewsonic, not NEC etc.

Never bank on the once manufacturer but get the best screen to fit your needs whatever the brand. All brand loyalty does is severely limits your options.Reading reviews is the best way to go about narrowing the choices down.
#30
PoisonJam
All manufacturers have produced good and bad screens. No one has a 100% record. Not Samsung, not Viewsonic, not NEC etc.

Never bank on the once manufacturer but get the best screen to fit your needs whatever the brand. All brand loyalty does is severely limits your options.Reading reviews is the best way to go about narrowing the choices down.


I don't disagree on any particular point. But there's a difference between brand loyalty (i.e. being an ATI or nVidia fanboy) and being reassured by the track record of a company.

It doesn't guarantee a good product, you're certainly right there, but it does increase the likelihood that it will be. The names of certain manufacturers have earned the right to have us pay closer attention, I would say. They can still make a stinker!
#31
wild_quinine;2594691
It doesn't guarantee a good product, you're certainly right there, but it does increase the likelihood that it will be.


That definitely works if someone were to pick a monitor completely at random or buy based solely on price. If that were the case, then sure enough, buying something from a brand known to have a good track record would be much a safer bet. However, I expect, like myself, you'd read reviews and research a product like this before buying? Which eliminates this concern in all but one respect: reliability and after-sales service.

If you've had a bad experience with a company it can be enough to put you off for life. If you've had several good experiences it could make you trust that brand more but I wouldn't write off another well known brand if they had a better offering at the price.

When looking at monitors I look to reviews first. I do like that Samsung and others do offer a good warranty and have a good history/rep and I factor this into the pros for that screen. It wouldn't be my overriding factor in my decision, though.
#32
Yomanda
Sorry totally disagree with that, 800:1 is totally unacceptable nowadays the blacks would almost be grey on that spec.
I Would sooner get a smaller Samsung Pebble SM2232BW 22" TFT Monitor Widescreen 1680x1050 3000:1 300cd/m2 2ms VGA/DVI £209.99 any day! And sacrifice size for quality and a lot cheaper!


Oh dear :oops:

You speak of value and you post a link to one of the most overrated and overpriced 22" Monitors on the market? You can get a 24" Acer for £10 cheaper than that monitor at e-buyer and its a far better bet. In the case of your link, you are paying for the Samsung name and the aesthetics rather than what the monitor can do because there are 22" monitors £50-60 cheaper than this that have been posted on this very site in the past that will do a much better job.

Sorry to take issue with your knowledge of contrast ratios as well but have you ever actually seen a monitor that size in the flesh?

I am betting that the answer is no, because if it was yes you would know that your observation that an 800:1 contrast ratio on a panel that size would result in the blacks being effectively grey
is total nonsense. Far too many people read things on the internet nowadays and take them as gospel without actually seeing things for themselves. I have seen 600:1 budget HDTVs that whilst never going to win awards, offer a perfectly adequate viewing experience for your average Joe. I am not saying that all HUKD posters fit that average Joe demographic and you do get what you pay for sometimes but not always. Not everyone has a pile of cash that they can routinely spend on things like PC monitors especially 28" ones that are about as rare as hen's teeth in most home PC setups in reality.

This monitor is nothing other than an excellent deal for the money quoted. Its not a patch on the 27" Dell that was posted a few weeks ago but thats only IMO.
#33
Ev0lution
Oh dear :oops:

You speak of value and you post a link to one of the most overrated and overpriced 22" Monitors on the market? You can get a 24" Acer for £10 cheaper than that monitor at e-buyer and its a far better bet. In the case of your link, you are paying for the Samsung name and the aesthetics rather than what the monitor can do because there are 22" monitors £50-60 cheaper than this that have been posted on this very site in the past that will do a much better job.

Sorry to take issue with your knowledge of contrast ratios as well but have you ever actually seen a monitor that size in the flesh?

I am betting that the answer is no, because if it was yes you would know that your observation that an 800:1 contrast ratio on a panel that size would result in the blacks being effectively grey
is total nonsense. Far too many people read things on the internet nowadays and take them as gospel without actually seeing things for themselves. I have seen 600:1 budget HDTVs that whilst never going to win awards, offer a perfectly adequate viewing experience for your average Joe. I am not saying that all HUKD posters fit that average Joe demographic and you do get what you pay for sometimes but not always. Not everyone has a pile of cash that they can routinely spend on things like PC monitors especially 28" ones that are about as rare as hen's teeth in most home PC setups in reality.

This monitor is nothing other than an excellent deal for the money quoted. Its not a patch on the 27" Dell that was posted a few weeks ago but thats only IMO.


I agree to some extent. The deepness of the blacks is governed by how well backlighting is blocked. On LCD displays, blacks are not produced by shutting off pixels but by blocking out backlighting. We all know that blocking out light is difficult as light seepage can occur. The contrast ratio determines the difference between the deepest black and the whitest white and a low contrast ratio can (but not necessarily) give an indication of how deep the blacks or how white the whites are. Dynamic contrast ratio is the contrast ratio under dynamic backlighting conditions and as quite rightly mentioned earlier, does not give a true indication of native contrast ratio.

Another trick of manufacturers is to quote very low response times. In essence, 20 ms is actually low enough for animation and gaming but the consumer has been increasingly led to believe that a lower value means better. Not only does a lower value produces no noticeable difference but the low values quoted (like the silly 2ms that Viewsonic and other manufacturers like to vaunt) is actually the response time for the quickest pixel change and not an average pixel change. What this means in practice is that not all pixel colour changes occur within 2 ms - only some. For example, changing from red to blue may take 2 ms but changing from grey to black may take 15 ms.
#34
Ev0lution
Oh dear :oops:

You speak of value and you post a link to one of the most overrated and overpriced 22" Monitors on the market? You can get a 24" Acer for £10 cheaper than that monitor at e-buyer and its a far better bet. In the case of your link, you are paying for the Samsung name and the aesthetics rather than what the monitor can do because there are 22" monitors £50-60 cheaper than this that have been posted on this very site in the past that will do a much better job.

Sorry to take issue with your knowledge of contrast ratios as well but have you ever actually seen a monitor that size in the flesh?

I am betting that the answer is no, because if it was yes you would know that your observation that an 800:1 contrast ratio on a panel that size would result in the blacks being effectively grey
is total nonsense. Far too many people read things on the internet nowadays and take them as gospel without actually seeing things for themselves. I have seen 600:1 budget HDTVs that whilst never going to win awards, offer a perfectly adequate viewing experience for your average Joe. I am not saying that all HUKD posters fit that average Joe demographic and you do get what you pay for sometimes but not always. Not everyone has a pile of cash that they can routinely spend on things like PC monitors especially 28" ones that are about as rare as hen's teeth in most home PC setups in reality.

This monitor is nothing other than an excellent deal for the money quoted. Its not a patch on the 27" Dell that was posted a few weeks ago but thats only IMO.


tut tut :oops:
Worked for Acer, and worked for an Electrical retailer saw many TV's and Monitors up close set them up, been using PC's for many years so enough said.
My point with the Samsung meant it was still a CHEAPER monitor than the one in the offer whether over priced or not. And I would go a for a (maybe over priced) smaller TV/monitor with a decent SPEC than the one featured which was BIGGER and cheaper. You get me now????
Even you should be able to see the difference between a TV with a contrast ratio of 600:1 and one at 3000:1! Look in any Tesco with a cheap Technika TV against a decent LG etc. You don't have to have eagle eyes to see the difference! Don't assume people know sod all! I don't know it all but I know enough. The way are talking you THINK you know it all :thinking: and the above is IMO as well so we beg to differ.
And you better do some research to back up what you say as it's mostly nonsense, I used to hear so called friends come in with customers talking like you and they used to make me and other sales guys laugh so much lol.. the ones who think they are giving good advice and know it all but are talking rubbish. Shut many of them up before.
#35
28" HannsG for £265.86 del from Misco

http://img.misco.co.uk/images/uploadedimages/med/20080522135228.jpg

Not exactly one of the big names but they seem to get very good user reviews across the board.

No stock until Monday according to the site.
#36
Yomanda
My point with the Samsung meant it was still a CHEAPER monitor than the one in the offer whether over priced or not. And I would go a for a (maybe over priced) smaller TV/monitor with a decent SPEC than the one featured which was BIGGER and cheaper. You get me now?

Of course it’s CHEAPER, you’re comparing 22” (1680x1050) versus 28” (1920x1200)! :thinking:
And the Samsung doesn’t even sound like a good monitor period and on top of which it’s over priced as you agree. Yes, I get you; you’re talking nonsense.
#37
PoisonJam
28" HannsG for £265.86 del from Misco

http://img.misco.co.uk/images/uploadedimages/med/20080522135228.jpg

Not exactly one of the big names but they seem to get very good user reviews across the board.

No stock until Monday according to the site.


hi are these any good they seem a good price? is this a tn screen?
#38
Ev0lution
Its not a patch on the 27" Dell that was posted a few weeks ago but thats only IMO.

The DELL is still on offer - http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/ProductDetail.aspx?c=uk&category_id=6198&cs=ukdhs1&first=true&l=en&sku=170559 - it's NOT a TN screen, and it comes with every input under the sun (DVI x 2, HDMI, DisplayPort, VGA, Component, etc.).

If you've got ~£400 to spend on a screen of ~27", then it's a much better screen than this Viewsonic. But then the Viewsonic saves you a hundred notes :)
#39
bilals;2600681
hi are these any good they seem a good price? is this a tn screen?


See my deal thread here where I link to some reviews
#40
Yomanda
tut tut :oops:
Worked for Acer, and worked for an Electrical retailer saw many TV's and Monitors up close set them up, been using PC's for many years so enough said.
My point with the Samsung meant it was still a CHEAPER monitor than the one in the offer whether over priced or not. And I would go a for a (maybe over priced) smaller TV/monitor with a decent SPEC than the one featured which was BIGGER and cheaper. You get me now????
Even you should be able to see the difference between a TV with a contrast ratio of 600:1 and one at 3000:1! Look in any Tesco with a cheap Technika TV against a decent LG etc. You don't have to have eagle eyes to see the difference! Don't assume people know sod all! I don't know it all but I know enough. The way are talking you THINK you know it all :thinking: and the above is IMO as well so we beg to differ.
And you better do some research to back up what you say as it's mostly nonsense, I used to hear so called friends come in with customers talking like you and they used to make me and other sales guys laugh so much lol.. the ones who think they are giving good advice and know it all but are talking rubbish. Shut many of them up before.


With that kind of rationale I hope you are not still working in the electrical retail industry because you sound as if you really DO know nothing.

Were I to come into your shop and you were to start spewing the kind of guff you have been doing on this thread, the only thing that would be 'shutting up' would be the shop your are working in due to lack of sales because you and your salesmen mates would be too busy laughing like a pack of hyenas at the customers whilst simultaneously not having the slightest clue about the goods you are supposed to be selling.

I dont know it all and I dont profess to, but on this subject I know a hell of a lot more than you do. :thumbsup:

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