Vivanco Prowire HDMI to HDMI 1.5 metre connectivity lead. Was £34.95 - HotUKDeals
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''If you've got a HD TV connect to you HD tuner or another HD device - like a HD DVD player - with this HDMI to HDMI connectivity lead. It means that audio visual signals can be transferred digitally without being converted to analogue. Sound stays rich in detail and colour and clarity stay undimmed by the transfer to your TV. It features titanium finished plugs, oxygen-free copper cable conductors for reduced signal distortion, 24K gold-plated connector for superior signal transfer, aluminium foil shielding to eliminate noise transference. 1.5m lead.''

I know nothing about these leads. I have no idea if this is a hot or cold deal. But is posted in case it helps somebody.
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Going to have to vote this one cold, way overpriced for an hdmi lead - quality is largely irrevelent especially at this length as it's a digital signal.

John
#2
John, at what length should we be worrying about the quality of the cable? I don't want to pay over the odds for something that I don't need.
#3
I've not seen any concrete facts but apparently at 30m+ it's worth getting a better quality cable just to ensure it does work although I think that's same with many similar cable types.

John
#4
Thanks, I can't see myself ever needing one that's >30m! Not in my home anyway.

So for a 1.5m cable, the cheaper the better regardless of the quality and the features offered?
#5
The quality of the cable for HDMI does not matter, the £2 ones you can pick up are as good as the £25 ones some places try and rip people off with.
#6
Johnmcl7;1465102
Going to have to vote this one cold, way overpriced for an hdmi lead - quality is largely irrevelent especially at this length as it's a digital signal.

John

[SIZE=2][COLOR=black]what garbage...so you are implying that just because it is a digital cable we all dont need to spend alot money on cabling....oh dear...you obviously know nothing about cabling then[/COLOR][/SIZE]
[FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][COLOR=black]The cable we use in our data centres / Switch rooms and Transmission suites costs an absolute fortune … maybe we should have made do with some cheap **** from Aldi / Asda/ ***** Central ?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][COLOR=black]ever heard of noise inducement pick up? you will get plenty of it with cheap cables!! enjoy nice picture pixelation/mosaics/breakup/freeze/no picture...[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][COLOR=black]makes me laugh..."hi luv ive just spent £500-1500 on a spanking new telly and im just gonna connect up the skyhd box to it with some string....mmm, picture aint too good luv"[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][COLOR=black]£19 isnt much for an hdmi cable![/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2]next time you fill up the petrol tank of your car with petrol, dont bother water is free[/SIZE][/FONT]
#7
Chiptivo;1465161
The quality of the cable for HDMI does not matter, the £2 ones you can pick up are as good as the £25 ones some places try and rip people off with.

lol:roll:
#8
royals
lol:roll:



The digital signal will either work or will not work, people buying expensive HDMI leads are being mislead.
banned#9
At this length, any hdmi cable will be fine and have the same quality, many magazines and internet sites have done tests to prove this
#10
Hmmm...

Could be you are both right:

Maybe this will help people understand HDMI cables...
http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&message.id=828972#M828972

The Truth About Monster Cable, Part 2 (Verdict: Cheap Cables Keep Up...Usually)
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hdmi-cable-battlemodo/the-truth-about-monster-cable-part-2-268788.php
#11
royals
[SIZE=2][COLOR=black]what garbage...so you are implying that just because it is a digital cable we all dont need to spend alot money on cabling....oh dear...you obviously know nothing about cabling then[/COLOR][/SIZE]


[size=2]It's your analogies that are garbage.[/size]


[FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][COLOR=black]The cable we use in our data centres / Switch rooms and Transmission suites costs an absolute fortune … maybe we should have made do with some cheap **** from Aldi / Asda/ ***** Central ?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT]



[size=2]What the hell are datacentres/switchrooms etc got to do with a 1.5m HDMI metre cable? Your datacentre will be dealing with vast amounts of data transfer. The HDMI cable will only be dealing with one video and one audio data stream.

Your network cables will run for relatively long distances, so attenuation crosstalk etc will be a factor.

A 1.5m HDMI cable will not suffer from these problems. A £4 HDMI cable will do the job as good as one at £50, up to the distances spoken of previously. Maybe when we start talking of distances of 30m things will change.[/size]


[FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2]..."hi luv ive just spent £500-1500 on a spanking new telly and im just gonna connect up the skyhd box to it with some string....mmm, picture aint too good luv"[/SIZE][/FONT]



Hardly! Do you not think your statement OTT a tad?


[FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2]next time you fill up the petrol tank of your car with petrol, dont bother water is free[/SIZE][/FONT]



[size=2]Again, another duff analogy. Is that supposed to be a proper comparison? How is this relevant to the question?:?[/size]


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#12
royals
The cable we use in our data centres / Switch rooms and Transmission suites costs an absolute fortune … maybe we should have made do with some cheap **** from Aldi / Asda/ ***** Central

If you are referring to cables needed for 10Gbit networking using fibre or the like I imagine these aren’t readily available in Aldi next to the cheap sauerkraut.
#13
Always a touchy subject this. I was in a shop yesterday and asked how much their cheapest HDMIs were, they said £15 but not to bother and go somewhere else as they're also all the same.
#14
royals
[SIZE=2][COLOR=black]what garbage...so you are implying that just because it is a digital cable we all dont need to spend alot money on cabling....oh dear...you obviously know nothing about cabling then[/COLOR][/SIZE]
[FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][COLOR=black]The cable we use in our data centres / Switch rooms and Transmission suites costs an absolute fortune … maybe we should have made do with some cheap **** from Aldi / Asda/ ***** Central ?[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][COLOR=black]ever heard of noise inducement pick up? you will get plenty of it with cheap cables!! enjoy nice picture pixelation/mosaics/breakup/freeze/no picture...[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][COLOR=black]makes me laugh..."hi luv ive just spent £500-1500 on a spanking new telly and im just gonna connect up the skyhd box to it with some string....mmm, picture aint too good luv"[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Tahoma][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2][COLOR=black]£19 isnt much for an hdmi cable![/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=2]next time you fill up the petrol tank of your car with petrol, dont bother water is free[/SIZE][/FONT]


LOL.....someone's been ill-informed/brainwashed. You will not get data corruption with a 1.5M cheap HDMI cable. Don't believe me, then listen to the pro's, the guys who have actually tested cheap v's expensive HDMI cables. No difference in picture quality.

Please note that this is not based on opinion, but from published test results from credible publications.
#15
I have the cheapest hdmi cable I could find (£4) from my PC and my 360 to my 42"1080p plasma - absolutely fantastic picture. No artifacts etc etc etc.

Don't be ripped off buying expensive digital cables - This also applies for fibre optics. The only differences are the outer sheath which may stop the cable kinking /being abraded etc. For most home use, cheap digital is the way to go (unless you like to brag about how much your cables cost!)
#16
Couldn't agree more.

I never spend more than a few quid on HDMI cables and all my Toslink/optical cables cost me 99p each!

Never had any problems with quality, as they carry digital signals over short distances.

When it comes to analogue signals, then higher quality (but not necessarily very expensive) cables and connectors are more important.
#17
I have to agree that in this instance, paying loads for short length digital signal cable will produce no benefits.
It's a digital signal, and it's simply not affected by noise as an analogue signal would be.

I don't have a problem connecting my USB drive with a £1 cable, or my firewire camcorder with a £3 cable.

Digital is digital. I also believe HDMI signal is transmitted with error correction data and from a HD source is encrypted. Either the signal arrives 100% intact, or it doesn't arrive at all.

Unless someone can produce some serious evidence to prove otherwise, expensive cables are a false economy.
#18
Funny isn't it, some people think of HDMI cables like scart cables, however, many, many magazines and forums really feel that with HDMI it isn't worth paying a fortune for cables, there are always those who need to justify the price they paid, however, I remember buying my hifi and listening to the guys in the store it was worth buying IXOS interconnects and speaker wire, however for the TOS link the one in the box was fine...difference between analogue signal and digital, and that was 7 years ago.
#19
Always make sure that the cable is the 1.3 hdmi standard and the 1.2 as a lot of the cheaper cables are
#20
Chiptivo;1465196
The digital signal will either work or will not work, people buying expensive HDMI leads are being mislead.


and what happens if the signal doesnt work....let me think...er mosiacs, or even no picture....you dont to buy mega expensive cables but i wouldnt buy cheap nasty ones either
#21
Royals, you clearly have a chip on your shoulder over this, but please re-read what you are typing before you hit the reply button and try to keep your "analogies" to yourself .

What relevance is cost IF the quality is the same? Why automatically associate "nasty ones" with cheap and quality with "mega expensive"?

The bottom line for all HDMI cables is make sure that it meets the standard you require (ie v1.3 if you want HD audio and deep colour)

We are talking here about home installations with very short cabling.

Far too much hatred from "our" community in here
#22
tonikeys;1465357
LOL.....someone's been ill-informed/brainwashed. You will not get data corruption with a 1.5M cheap HDMI cable. Don't believe me, then listen to the pro's, the guys who have actually tested cheap v's expensive HDMI cables. No difference in picture quality.

Please note that this is not based on opinion, but from published test results from credible publications.

lol yourself.....provide the facts....ok my brother has 25+ electrical engineering/telecoms/cabling experience and I have 11 years.....we obviously know nothing....the 2 reviews from earlier arent real life tests or unbiased are they...in fact the ee degree person contradicted themselves...read the comments......i give up...carry on as you are i dont care.
The only thing id agree with is that there is a big markup on cabling in general but thats it
incidentally where were the credible publications from? If you say which, then i will be rolling around on the floor in hysterics.
#23
Ockingshay;1467697
Royals, you clearly have a chip on your shoulder over this, but please re-read what you are typing before you hit the reply button and try to keep your "analogies" to yourself .

What relevance is cost IF the quality is the same? Why automatically associate "nasty ones" with cheap and quality with "mega expensive"?

The bottom line for all HDMI cables is make sure that it meets the standard you require (ie v1.3 if you want HD audio and deep colour)

We are talking here about home installations with very short cabling.

Far too much hatred from "our" community in here

fair enough...no chip on my shoulder...just annoys me when people advise others when they who dont what they are talking about....i used to buy cheap cables as money was tight buthave learnt the error my ways....i know buy reasonable cables, but not expensive ones....anyway past caring now
#24
well now we're getting somewhere. In you expereinces what cheap cables have you bought? are we talking about digital cables or analogue cables and in what environment?

Surely this is the whole point of the forums?, to discuss differences in our experiences, however there is an etiquette!
#25
worth a visit to hdmi.org and the avreview.co.uk....it seems to be the considered opinion that over short distances there is little to no difference in performance, however, over 10m quality counts....hdmi.org is the official website for the hdmi adopters.
I am not a clever/techy guy, however, most normal people in blind testing apparently cannot tell the difference between budget HDMi and premium cables...professionals talk about vibrancy and such like, yet I wonder how many people are watching an HD tv with standard sky and are happy with it through scart, and these are often the same people that other knowledgeable people want to persuade that they need to spend lots of money on an hdmi cable that they won't "see" the benefit of.
#26
royals
fair enough...no chip on my shoulder...just annoys me when people advise others when they who dont what they are talking about....i used to buy cheap cables as money was tight buthave learnt the error my ways....i know buy reasonable cables, but not expensive ones....anyway past caring now


I have solved both arguments.

http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/4-/3360615/HDMI-v1-3-Professional-Quality-1-2M-Cable/Product.html

Cheap AND good quality. Case closed. :-D
#27
Did you read the reviews...my god some of these guys make the forum members here appear sane....no offence meant to HUKD forum members as I am one
:whistling:
#28
I think this goes back to the old analogue days when signal loss was an issue. I was one of the guys who paid £25 a meter for decent speaker cable, interconnects etc. and yes it did sound good, but to be honest my un-trained ear probably couldn't tell too much difference. On digital sources I always go for cheaper leads, the reason, like other posters say, they either work or they don't. You'll soon notice if they don't because you'll have blocks in your picture. If the lead is working fine you'll not notice the difference between a £2 lead and a £2000 lead, besides the quality of finsh on the cable and the gold plated ends.

I work in IT / Telecomms so understand the importance of good cabling. The difference here is that HDMI leads are very short and relatively low bandwidth hence the materials and manufacturing methods don't need to be to the same standard as nework cabling, where signal loss and dry connections can cause packet loss.

Good debate, here, but at the end of the day if people wan't to spend £20+ it's up to them. Good luck to em I say :thumbsup:.
#29
Agent_Silver
Did you read the reviews...my god some of these guys make the forum members here appear sane....no offence meant to HUKD forum members as I am one
:whistling:


Nope missed em, oh well :?. Anyway bought mine from uk-hdmi site 2 for £11 (1 premium, 1 budget). Better than the cr*p hdmi cable I had with my sky box that kept cutting out.
#30
mikeyp



That's exactly the one i just bought, hopefully arrive Mon/Tues :thumbsup:

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