Vostro 200 desktop base unit. 2Ghz dualcore, 3gig, 250GB, dvdrw, Vista business, £208 delivered. - HotUKDeals
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305-D092036 Small Business site - Best price £207.98 Delivered.
Vostro 200 MT(D092036)

Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core Processor E2180 (2.00GHz,800MHz,1MB cache)
Genuine Windows Vista® Business SP1- English
3072MB 800MHz (2x1024 + 2x512) Memory
250GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst cache
16x DVD +/- RW Drive
Integrated Intel Graphic Media Accelerator X3100
Integrated 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio
Dell Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Dell 2 Button USB Optical Mouse
1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day
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[mod]#1
This is pretty much the same deal as here for £198

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/234837/dell-vostro-200-desktop-base-2ghz-d/showthread.php?t=234837

But with this for £10 extra you get 1gig of ram more and Vista Business which will give you the option of downgrading to XP Pro if you have access to an OEM Dell XP Pro disc.
#2
Not a bad deal mike, dont see many great dell deals around anymore, whats happened, I remember looking foward to a thursday morning to see a flood of fantastic dell deals posted by you, with misprices and cheap upgrades and stuff.

Edit - Voted hot btw
[mod]#3
Bryan839;3023505
Not a bad deal mike, dont see many great dell deals around anymore, whats happened, I remember looking foward to a thursday morning to see a flood of fantastic dell deals posted by you, with misprices and cheap upgrades and stuff.

Edit - Voted hot btw


I'm still getting up at 5am, but Dell wont play ball like they used to. :x
#4
Perfect timing - thanks, just what I need for my son (school work plus occasional (GTA?) games.
He's just trashed his laptop (again) so fixed PC this time.

Now for the first of the usual many questions on the same subject:

What graphics card can I install (without having to upgrade power supply / buy power adapters etc etc).

Thanks,

SM
#5
Is this case a regular case? (ie. not small form factor)
#6
MikeT
I'm still getting up at 5am, but Dell wont play ball like they used to. :x


Turn your back on them Mike - its the only way.:thumbsup:
[mod]#7
kevyn;3023776
Is this case a regular case? (ie. not small form factor)


Standard sized case, takes full sized cards.
#8
MikeT
Standard sized case, takes full sized cards.


awesome. was planning on using one of these for a home recording studio setup (with the addition of a decent sound card of course... any suggestions?)
#9
Perfect timing Mike, looking for a PC for 4yr old....... I think this would be too powerful so I might have to let him inherit my ageing Athlon 2800 and I will have to "put up" with this one :thumbsup: (H&R added).
suspended#10
Remember QUIDCO?
#11
What will this be like for gaming..... or will the Tesco £299 one be a better unit?
#12
I am just waiting for the first wailing of "I can build it cheaper and better" I suspect they might be a bit less evident than usual! :whistling:

Quite why people queue up to buy these tatty "refurbs" for 120 quid - old single core machines with 1G of ram and 80Gb hard disks that we see posted most weeks, when you can buy a modern practical machine with OS, warranty & decent performance good for everyday use for this sort of money.

Not for me, esp as I have just renewed my machine, but I am getting on the phone any minute to give some info to a couple of friends, too good to miss!
#13
nihcaj
I am just waiting for the first wailing of "I can build it cheaper and better" I suspect they might be a bit less evident than usual! :whistling:

Quite why people queue up to buy these tatty "refurbs" for 120 quid - old single core machines with 1G of ram and 80Gb hard disks that we see posted most weeks, when you can buy a modern practical machine with OS, warranty & decent performance good for everyday use for this sort of money.

Not for me, esp as I have just renewed my machine, but I am getting on the phone any minute to give some info to a couple of friends, too good to miss!


I know what you're gettin at - but, as the owner of a Dell, I can understand why people prefer to buy their own kit - the motherboards they use in budget Dell desktops are pathetic - they manage to negate the otherwise decent specifications.
#14
thinking of going for this. Is there much difference between a dual core and a core two duo?
#15
moob;3024233
I know what you're gettin at - but, as the owner of a Dell, I can understand why people prefer to buy their own kit - the motherboards they use in budget Dell desktops are pathetic - they manage to negate the otherwise decent specifications.


I get your point, but I still don't think it is much to fret over. :thumbsup:

I always built my own, and plenty for friends and acquaintances, but that was the past when it was an interesting hobby, and a lot cheaper too Now, in this area of the market, it is expensive MASOCHISM building your own.
If I was building to this level, it would only have to be a cheap motherboard in the first place, (Often Foxconn in them I am lead to believe) so what would be so different, the visibility of the bios settings? This sort of thing is hardly for overclocking anyway! :-(

If you are worried about the performance in any major way, this is not even CLOSE to the type of machine you would be looking at anyway.
suspended#16
mpazza
thinking of going for this. Is there much difference between a dual core and a core two duo?


Core2Duo is a better processor
banned#17
Do Dell do interest free payments?
#18
euglycaemia
Remember QUIDCO?



I don't think Quidco applies for Dell Business site, but didn't stop me going via Quidco anyway. If it does it will be a bonus.
#19
Phish

Just got the one from Tesco @£100 more (still in the box though).
http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212053

Tried to compare the spec from each but cannot figure it all out. IMO I should take it back to Tesco and order this one instead 'cause we only use it for WP emails internet etc, no huge game use.

What do you think guys?
#20
iglimpse
Phish

Just got the one from Tesco @£100 more (still in the box though).
http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212053

Tried to compare the spec from each but cannot figure it all out. IMO I should take it back to Tesco and order this one instead 'cause we only use it for WP emails internet etc, no huge game use.

What do you think guys?


I just ordered the one you have for about £287 after vouchers/quidco plus about 600 clubcard points. I would say its definately worth the extra £79.

However if you are only going to be using it for what you say, its probably a bit overkill, and one like this would suffice (£163.66):

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/237220/dell-vostro-desktop-200-computer-16/
#21
goodgrr
I don't think Quidco applies for Dell Business site, but didn't stop me going via Quidco anyway. If it does it will be a bonus.


They Do:

http://www.quidco.com/dell-small-medium-business/

5% on Business and 4% on home.
suspended#22
goodgrr
I don't think Quidco applies for Dell Business site, but didn't stop me going via Quidco anyway. If it does it will be a bonus.


It does..........I got for my last purchase
#23
magicone;3024150
What will this be like for gaming..... or will the Tesco £299 one be a better unit?
The £299 one, as that's has a quadcore CPU & better PSU. If you were to install a 9800GT in this for example, its PSU may not have a PCI-E connector & may struggle to power it anyway. But not the £299 one as one buyer has confirmed here.
#24
MikeT
This is pretty much the same deal as here for £198

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/234837/dell-vostro-200-desktop-base-2ghz-d/showthread.php?t=234837

But with this for £10 extra you get 1gig of ram more and Vista Business which will give you the option of downgrading to XP Pro if you have access to an OEM Dell XP Pro disc.



whats the crack with the OEM Dell XP Pro disc
do i have to buy one,or can i borrow one of a friend who already has xp.
i really dont want vista
[mod]#25
hellohello;3025376
whats the crack with the OEM Dell XP Pro disc
do i have to buy one,or can i borrow one of a friend who already has xp.
i really dont want vista


http://direct2dell.com/smallbusiness/archive/2008/05/01/windows-vista-downgrade-service-amp-xp-end-of-life.aspx

or Google for more info.
#26
:thumbsup: Cheers guys. Tesco on now back in box and will be returned to shop. Quick glance in here today has saved me £100

Trying to order this Dell one but having problems trying to get rid of the monitor, keyboard and mouse (don't need them) off the list. Cannot see how to remove them.....any suggestions please?
1 Like #27
iglimpse;3026239
Trying to order this Dell one but having problems trying to get rid of the monitor, keyboard and mouse (don't need them) off the list. Cannot see how to remove them.....any suggestions please?
The keyboard/mouse cannot be removed (keep as standby or give away), but you can remove the monitor by selecting, "[SIZE=1][FONT=Arial]No 17" Wide Monitor [subtract £92.00][/FONT][/SIZE]" under Monitor.
#28
Anyone know how loud/quiet these are?

And would it be good enough to run red alert 3 when it comes out?
#29
p5x;3026618
And would it be good enough to run red alert 3 when it comes out?
No, the graphics is integrated on this, so poor for 3D games. From the game's requirements (& this is probably minimum):

"Video Card – NVIDIA GeForce 6800, ATI Radeon X1800 or higher end DirectX 9.0c compatible gfx card"

You'll need to upgrade the graphics card, & quite possibly the PSU to match it.
#30
Would the "[FONT=arial][SIZE=1]128MB ATI® Radeon™ HD 2400 Pro graphics card" [/SIZE][/FONT] upgrade they suggest for £40 fit the bill?
#31
p5x;3026760
Would the "[FONT=arial][SIZE=1]128MB ATI® Radeon™ HD 2400 Pro graphics card" [/SIZE][/FONT]upgrade they suggest for £40 fit the bill?
No, but I'd recommend this much better £47 8800GT graphics card for only £7 more. And this £37 Hiper 530W PSU if necessary.

P.S. Btw, the 8800GT I linked to is much better than any of their graphics card options, & for much less money.
#32
thanks...any idea if you would need the extra PSU with this dell system?
#33
kevyn
awesome. was planning on using one of these for a home recording studio setup (with the addition of a decent sound card of course... any suggestions?)


I'd avoid Dell and HP/Compaq PCs for audio, had nothing but issues with them due to their proprietory motherboards. Not wanting to sound like a 'build it for cheaper' merchant but for audio you want some assurance the parts are all good, going to last and can be swapped out (something very difficult with Dells). Spend an extra £100 and you could get a decent PC including £40ish on an M-Audio 2496 PCI card (best in that price range, or £20 more for Emu 0404).

Trust me, nothing kills inspiriation like a PC dicking you about. Build it well and it'll serve you well for a long time - unlike gaming PCs, if you get your PC set up with the right software and get it working how you like then it will keep ticking over like a old multitrack.
#34
p5x;3026892
thanks...any idea if you would need the extra PSU with this dell system?
It's not an 'extra' PSU as such - basically, you'll need to replace the stock one with a better one - or do what I've said below...

Some (with 2 SATA power cables free & the right adapters/cables), have managed to run a 9600GT with the stock PSU.

You can try it with the 8800GT, but I can't be held responsible if it causes damage. What you'll need:

a. 2x free SATA power connectors from PSU (Dell PCs don't have any molex connectors these days)

b. 2x SATA to IDE power adapters (e.g. see eBay item 160284936586)

c. 1x twin molex to PCI-E cable adapter (e.g see eBay item 290262451417)

The graphics card may come with the 2nd cable adapter above.
#35
Adding a monitor from Dell seems quite expensive these days, I've recently supplied a couple of Dell PC's recently, with these having onboard VGA I've gone with the LG monitors from Tesco, 19" £99, 22" £129 available online or at select stores.

Heat added.

Currently prefer the slim unit with 7200 C2D, 2gb Ram at £248 delivered, or the Q6600 at Tesco for £299!
#36
gunark;3026930
I'd avoid Dell and HP/Compaq PCs for audio, had nothing but issues with them due to their proprietory motherboards. Not wanting to sound like a 'build it for cheaper' merchant but for audio you want some assurance the parts are all good, going to last and can be swapped out (something very difficult with Dells). Spend an extra £100 and you could get a decent PC including £40ish on an M-Audio 2496 PCI card (best in that price range, or £20 more for Emu 0404).

Trust me, nothing kills inspiriation like a PC dicking you about. Build it well and it'll serve you well for a long time - unlike gaming PCs, if you get your PC set up with the right software and get it working how you like then it will keep ticking over like a old multitrack.


I am all ears. Your post has genuinely mystified me, as it conflicts with what I have personally and otherwise seen. Maybe I am missing the point you are making and you are doing more or more specialist activities with audio software than other people I have known.

My Dell Inspiron 530 Quad core machine is brilliant with Music software, I use Sibelius 5.2, however it is in no way set up with a high end Sound card, I am only interested in the way stuff works together in "reasonable" sampled quality, but not actual hi-fi output for performance purposes, that would be played live, so I really don't need it. Sounds good, but it isn't going to impress any hifi buff. If I did, I would reach out for a much better sound card, and would not expect the slightest problem in respect of even a modestly specified PC.

What is it that causes you such problems with a high end sound card and Dell or Compaq?

It is easy enough to disable the onboard sound, (although not even necessary in many cases) on Dell or any other motherboard, and as almost ANY brand of Motherboard has onboard sound these days, it will be no different for any other PC owner! I am advised that Dell use Foxconn motherboards in this end of the market, not maybe my first choice, but nothing unusual, the only difference is a customised BIOS, so you can't overclock.

Everything else inside the case is all proprietary, and can be bought in one form or another - memory, HD whatever, it all comes from the same Korean, Chinese, Taiwanese or other factory in the far east, just as every other PC assembler's machine does.

So, if I planned to stick any choice of PCI sound card in an adequately empty PCI slot, nothing makes me think it will be any less compatible than ANY other make or any home build machine.

If anything, I would suggest that audio software is pretty low end in terms of the need for computing power! Not even that demanding in terms of disk storage when compared to video. What is at all demanding about any audio software or sound card that will impact on the PC? The whole point of high end sound cards it to offload a lot of the specialised activity TO the card, and relieve the impact on teh host machine itself! It is so low end, even on-board graphics will do for this sort of machine. Myself, I WAS planning to upgrade my graphics card, but in practice with plenty of memory I don't use graphics intensive programs it can't handle, I can't see it being any different for you!

I am comparatively new with Dell PCs, 2 in the household now, but have been THRILLED with the performance for the price of both. As for longeivity, well, I can't speak just for myself, as until fairly recently I built my own, but I know of many Dell and loads of other PC brands that have lasted YEARS. In reality, compared with other consumer electronics, PCs seem to be VERY reliable kit - I wish I had as good performance and life from TVs, Videos, or Digiboxes! Apart from problems with one Acer laptop, I only personally know of early problems on Advent and Packhard Bell machines, every other I have known, and that includes many systems I have built (from dead cheap to fairly leading edge) have lasted until they have been thrown out! - Usually because they are so old and slow, they don't perform with the software their users want to use, but certainly not for reasons of failure! The odd CD/DVD drive, and a power supply perhaps excepted.
1 Like #37
Some (with 2 SATA power cables free & the right adapters/cables), have managed to run a 9600GT with the stock PSU.

I have a Vostro 200 and I'm running a 512MB 9800GT perfectly well on the stock power supply. You need to purchase 2 SATA-Molex converters (the Vostro 200 only has 2 spare SATA connectors, so that uses them all) and also a 2xMolex-PCIE connector (mine came with the graphics card), and this is a big card so the case gets a little full.
I play games like Day of Defeat:Source at 1650*1050 on a 22" widescreen monitor and have no problems whatsoever with the power supply. The only problem I do have is that the card itself has a whiny fan, but that's hardly Dell's fault, and the Nvidia drivers don't seem to automatically increase the fan speed but that may be because I haven't seen the card go above about 62C anyway.
My other Vostro 200 has a silent Nvidia 7600GT which doesn't require additional power and runs a 19" 1280*1024 screen with no problems whatsover.
As for the audio issue I have been buying Dells for years (I stopped making my own when Dell started selling at silly prices). I currently have 5 in the house, and have never had audio problems with any of them. If you're a complete sound freak who wants absolute digital reproduction you probably aren't interested in a £208 PC anyway, so don't let that put you off this machine - it's a bargain in anyone's book. Thanks Mike.
#38
Just customized one to my requirements and it cost £250, now all I need is my tv :)
#39
nihcaj
I am all ears.


I'm just going on personal experience really. I've nothig against Dells at all, they are good basic machines, no argument. I found that with Audio PCs I wanted it to be solid and flexible and assured. Having a good setup with parts chosen by myself (after research which also taught me loads about how they work together and what to look for). Good HDD is vital, they are your songs after all! A pro audio soundcard is a must too, simply for rock solid low latency ASIO drivers (Asio4all is good but not as good as manufacturer written ASIO drivers), and for £40 and up for 24bit 96khz recording what lose in cash you more than make up for in quality. Decent memory that has a good manufactuers warranty, non-integrated graphics (or ones that don't steal from the main memory) is also imperative.

People find that they may want to upgrade the mobo and chip later when they feel they need more power - with the dell you would need a new case and psu too.

Now, if you don't record but just program like in Live or Reason, some of this can be of less concern, such as latency and recording quality, meaning you may be able to omit the soundcard (but the quality you listen to when monitoring won't be as good as a pro card).

But for a small amount more you can take a hobby a little more seriously and get a more pro sound (you can't mix well without a good soundcard outputting to an amp and monitors really). I've found freqently when someone begins to really pick up and enjoy making music, they tend to get more serious about it and want it to sound as good as they can get it. If that is already in place they can grow into the system.

Also at work we have found Dells have had bad capacitors before meaning a m/b swapout too (although yes, any part can break on any PC but it's still inconvenient).

I would build a HTPC out of a Dell PC like this, so please don't think I feel it's ****, I just feel that Audio PCs are a different beast and should be viewed so.
#40
biglugs1
If you're a complete sound freak who wants absolute digital reproduction you probably aren't interested in a £208 PC anyway, so don't let that put you off this machine - it's a bargain in anyone's book. Thanks Mike.


Sort of a sound freak! Just want to make good quality mix downs and tracks. This PC is a bargain, no doubt about that at all (I'd buy it if I needed one!), just not as an audio PC.

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