Western Digital 1TB 3.5" My Book World Edition - External Network Hard Drive (NAS) - HotUKDeals
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Play.com have this for 129.99 while PC World sell it for £164.99 in store.

Use their pricematch policy, bring the page up on your mobile while in store or print a copy of their price promise and the play.com page and go to a PC World store.

Pick up the drive and go to checkout.

Present the page to the checkout operator and ask them (nicely) if they can price match this for you.

Make sure they deduct 110% of the price difference and not 100%
You should pay no more than £126.49 for this 1TB NAS drive.

I have done price matches at various PC World stores and never had any problems.

Read up on the device though as WD don't seem to get a lot of good press on their HDD's.

I've bought one today so will post a review when I've got this going, any feedback on these will be appreciated too.
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#2
I am just hanging around to see if somebody says something about it.
#3
lol, me2 :)

Not sure how good this is but it is pretty darn cheap
#4
Excellent price been waiting for prices to fall.

The 500gb is not a bad price

Remember Play do quidco at about 4% brings price down similar to pc world.

Almost purchased but want RAID 5 to fall, all that info stored needs reliability and backup.
#5
GDawes
Almost purchased but want RAID 5 to fall, all that info stored needs reliability and backup.


I'm toying with getting a RAID 1 set up. Any particular reason you're chasing 5? (i'm simply using for photo archiving at home).
4 Likes #6
I've been lurking for a couple of years now, but this post has made me register.

I bought this for 150 quid from PC World, and have installed twonkyserver on it, to stream music to the aldi wifi stereo that was posted on this site. While this works flawlessly, the unit itseft is very slow, very very very slow.

Do a search and check other reviews, I wish i had before i bought it (one of our customers at work recommended it), and i would have spent a bit more money on something better. It has a 1GB network port on it, but can't handle 10MB let alone 1GB. It has 32mb of RAM and a 200mhz processor I believe, and its the processor and the operating system that let it down.

To give you an example, copying files connected to a router with 100mb connection gives at best 4mb / sec transfer rate. and only if the files are big (larger than 500mb) Smaller files such as pictures (around 2-4mb) it transfer at around 700kb/sec!!!!

you can get around this by copying multiple directories, but its a pain.

I would take it back, but i've spent too long putting data on it, and it works well streaming video to the xbox and music to the stereo.

I'm going to vote hot, because the price itself is very good, its just the product could be much better.

Check the reviews before you buy and you'll know what to expect.
#7
JayDubya
I'm toying with getting a RAID 1 set up. Any particular reason you're chasing 5? (i'm simply using for photo archiving at home).

5 is cheaper than 1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks#Purpose_and_basics
#8
JayDubya
I'm toying with getting a RAID 1 set up. Any particular reason you're chasing 5? (i'm simply using for photo archiving at home).


To boast about.

RAID is a dud of an idea for the SOHO user. You have to buy identical disks, then set up the RAID, which isn't easy, then if one disk fails, you have to find an identical version of it to read the data.

You are much better off simply downloading Microsoft Sync-toy and creating a clone of the directories you wan t on another disk. Less hassle to set up and less hassle if one disk fails.
#9
gavp
I've been lurking for a couple of years now, but this post has made me register.

I bought this for 150 quid from PC World, and have installed twonkyserver on it, to stream music to the aldi wifi stereo that was posted on this site. While this works flawlessly, the unit itseft is very slow, very very very slow.

Do a search and check other reviews, I wish i had before i bought it (one of our customers at work recommended it), and i would have spent a bit more money on something better. It has a 1GB network port on it, but can't handle 10MB let alone 1GB. It has 32mb of RAM and a 200mhz processor I believe, and its the processor and the operating system that let it down.

To give you an example, copying files connected to a router with 100mb connection gives at best 4mb / sec transfer rate. and only if the files are big (larger than 500mb) Smaller files such as pictures (around 2-4mb) it transfer at around 700kb/sec!!!!

you can get around this by copying multiple directories, but its a pain.

I would take it back, but i've spent too long putting data on it, and it works well streaming video to the xbox and music to the stereo.

I'm going to vote hot, because the price itself is very good, its just the product could be much better.

Check the reviews before you buy and you'll know what to expect.

Thank you sooo much for such an informative post and a first one at that :) - Rep ya for it :)

I don't think this is a super fantastic product but the only problem is: alternatives cost the earth and I don't want to spend more money on saving redundant data.

I'm gonna have everything on here backed up on DVD's and other external disks - it's just convenient to have access to everything, available all the time on the network.

I've read reviews for faster netgear raid products (fast read/write times) but even they get negetive reviews and people losing data on the disks.

I'm not sure how good (ok, really) it is but I've bought one now and will give it a go.

will like to look at alternatives in the similar price range though (+/- 20%)
#10
joylove
To boast about.

RAID is a dud of an idea for the SOHO user. You have to buy identical disks, then set up the RAID, which isn't easy, then if one disk fails, you have to find an identical version of it to read the data.

You are much better off simply downloading Microsoft Sync-toy and creating a clone of the directories you wan t on another disk. Less hassle to set up and less hassle if one disk fails.

same idea like mine :)

;) only I didn't post clearly :p
#11
As you've got it, read up on how to disable mionet, thats gives a little bit of speed increase, as the mionet service uses up processor and ram.
#12
JayDubya;2786309
I'm toying with getting a RAID 1 set up. Any particular reason you're chasing 5? (i'm simply using for photo archiving at home).


Speed and Robust. Feel ripped off mirroring buy 2 drives get 50% off space.
At least with Raid 5 its buy 3 and loose a 33%.
Mirroring may do ,
I love the Thecus range.
#13
gavp
As you've got it, read up on how to disable mionet, thats gives a little bit of speed increase, as the mionet service uses up processor and ram.

thnx, I'm planning not to use the mionet disk when I install the router. I haven't opened it yet so don't know if it comes pre installed or not.

Any further info would be very gladly received - unfortunately, won't be able to rep you more ;)
#14
RAID is not dead for SOHO users.

Will your home digital photo collection last as long as a physical photo album?.
I want my CD collection and music collection on line, secure and archived (approx 5,000 physical Cd's and 10,000 12" singles slowly digitizing)
Not into DVD or video playback yet may be soon.

With so much like sky HD and all blue ray boxes all having ethernet , more will make use of NAS. Imagine a diskless PVR. Homes will one day have storage hubs before everything goes remote and hosted storage.
Pace are pushing a new multi room HD system using NAS, rumoured to be available from SKY soon.
http://www.pace.com/corporate/products/productDetails.asp?nav=products&productID=GENERIC-Multiroom
#15
Thanks to all above for putting me off RAID 1 !

Very useful to know - I wasn't 100% sure. I am happy to create 2 backups etc. rather than do this via RAID and hadn't considered the procedures upon the event of failure. Cheers. I think I'll have a single sata NAS drive with a second sata added to my PC on the same network. Got to be safer in terms of having it robbed out of your house etc.
gavp - useful info on this unit - rep'd you for it.
#16
LOL @ no more repping. I just want people to know what they are buying before parting with their hard earned cash. That's not to say it's a bad product, it just doesn't do what it says on the tin.

mionet is installed by default, the operating system is a cut down version of linux. So to disable it, you will need hack into it, and its done by telling it it needs a firmware update but pointing to a hacked firmware here

http://martin.hinner.info/mybook/sshaccess.php

Then its recommended you disable mionet and not remove it:

http://martin.hinner.info/mybook/disable_mionet.php

i found disabling it didnt give much of a performance increase. I got it for the same reasons as you, to back up redundant data, but give it a try and dont back up too much, if you dont like it take it back. I started backing up data on a friday night and didnt finish until the middle of the following week (it really is that slow). but now its backed up i dont feel like returning it and to go through the whole exercise again.

Also consider a slug (NSLU2) and an external hard drive. might be a better option.

I know money is an issue, if it wasnt then i'd have bought a drobo, they are very cool.
#17
[QUOTE=joylove]To boast about.

RAID is a dud of an idea for the SOHO user. You have to buy identical disks, then set up the RAID, which isn't easy, then if one disk fails, you have to find an identical version of it to read the data.
QUOTE]

I'd disagree. It's a breeze to set up RAID on these devices and the requirements for the disks is not the least bit stringent. You only have to have enough space... Any 2 disks from any manufacturer will work just fine and you can mix and match as much as you like. RAID 1 offers useful protection against drive failure, however it's not a backup solution - if you get a corrupt file it'll be corrupt on both drives for example.
#18
£124.53 delivered (free delivery over £99) at BTShop & Dabs, 3% quidco too
#19
looks good
#20
joylove;2786531
To boast about.

RAID is a dud of an idea for the SOHO user. You have to buy identical disks, then set up the RAID, which isn't easy, then if one disk fails, you have to find an identical version of it to read the data.

You are much better off simply downloading Microsoft Sync-toy and creating a clone of the directories you wan t on another disk. Less hassle to set up and less hassle if one disk fails.

This is incorrect in many ways - firstly you don't have to buy identical disks for RAID, had a RAID 5 NAS box which over several years had each of its four hard drives fail at different times. Eventually all its drives were of different capacity and different manufacturers although obviously there was wasted space on each disk since there were smaller drives in the array.

You don't need any more disks to read the data either, if you have a single disk failure in a RAID 1 or 5 array then you can carry on using the machine as normal but in a degraded state - any more disk failures and obviously you lose the lot. A decent RAID setup will allow you to simply slot another disk in then allow the system to resync and you're back to a redundant state.

I don't find RAID setup to be at all difficult, I find it far less time consuming thatn Synctoy which takes some time to configure all the pairs you want with the various actions, directories and exclusions. I do use Synctoy for my backups as my data, while RAID is less hassle to both set up and maintain especially as the data sets I'm working with have been getting quite large, Synctoy is better suited for using different physical drives (I keep one with me, one at home)

John
#21
save it for people who care lol
#22
i bought one of these a while back from PC World for £149 and it was the worst move i ever made, this was the slowest heap of junk i've ever had, anyway i took the hard drive out and reformatted it to use in my quad core PC.
#23
Bought one 2 weeks ago, resold on ebay 3 days later. Absolutely no good for streaming video. Bought this to transfer 500GB of movie files from a full 500GB disk. Got 1.2MB/s across the network as it doesn't have a USB port either. Ended up taking the unit apart and trying to mount in a USB enclosure but because of the shock mount this wouldn't fit. Really wouldn't recommend this unless you have 1TB of MS Word Documents and text files. Plus the anywhere access is ******, doens't work very well and is chargable. Absolutely poop drive. I would recommend a USB external plugged into a Linksys Slug.
#24
hate this thing.
bought a 500gb for back up at work and it gave up within 3 days. constant issues with it, wouldn't touch one again
after stripping the drive out it turned out it was the caddy that was faulty, the drive works fine.
#25
obviously the bigger drives are no good, mine's fine! used it loads!
#26
Does it have rsync? And scheduled shutdown?

I use a FreeNas pc, which is great but obviously much bigger and uses more power.

I only really need it for file sharing (ie samba) and backing up using rsync. If this can do it (I'm googling now myself) I may be tempted.
1 Like #27
jakenjo
obviously the bigger drives are no good, mine's fine! used it loads!

Don't think the drive size is the issue. Read lots of newsgroups on this. It's advertised as Gigabit ethernet but the processor that translates the data from ethernet to SATA that can only handle a few MB/sec. Throw in a Vista based network into the mix and you might as well walk across the room with a flash drive 50 times. :x
#28
hmmmm been better prices for 1tb drives and this is not one of the better priced ones.... i remember not long back there was one on offer for £110 inc postage
#29
If used right these are amazing, I have a local network area of the disk which does not use Mionet to access it. I use the to backup my computer using Allway Sync.

I only use Mionet to allow other people remote access to the drive. I can even save pictures to my hard drive while on Holiday and my parents can log into my drive and retrieve them and no computer needs to be on for this.

And to do all this you don't need a paid Mionet account!

As I say only use Mionet when it suits you save everything else outside and this will be the best purchase ever.
#30
Does this network easily with all your peripherals. I was keen to find out if it has a inbuilt DLNA protocol so I could stream pics, music and videos to the ps3 wirelessly?
#31
dragon_ninsu
Does this network easily with all your peripherals. I was keen to find out if it has a inbuilt DLNA protocol so I could stream pics, music and videos to the ps3 wirelessly?

It doesn't but it does have a hack/ I'm trying to do the firmware bit now... will update when all done - might be after the weekend though.
#32
kudos1uk
If used right these are amazing, I have a local network area of the disk which does not use Mionet to access it. I use the to backup my computer using Allway Sync.

I only use Mionet to allow other people remote access to the drive. I can even save pictures to my hard drive while on Holiday and my parents can log into my drive and retrieve them and no computer needs to be on for this.

And to do all this you don't need a paid Mionet account!

As I say only use Mionet when it suits you save everything else outside and this will be the best purchase ever.

how can you use mionet if you don't have a paid account
#33
jaggedm
hmmmm been better prices for 1tb drives and this is not one of the better priced ones.... i remember not long back there was one on offer for £110 inc postage

i couldn't find an external one any close to this in price... if you know one, please post. thnx :)
#34
andyc1976
Don't think the drive size is the issue. Read lots of newsgroups on this. It's advertised as Gigabit ethernet but the processor that translates the data from ethernet to SATA that can only handle a few MB/sec. Throw in a Vista based network into the mix and you might as well walk across the room with a flash drive 50 times. :x

lol, repped
#35
jaggedm
hmmmm been better prices for 1tb drives and this is not one of the better priced ones.... i remember not long back there was one on offer for £110 inc postage


Surely you're thinking of plain external drives? This is a NAS drive.
#36
gavp
LOL @ no more repping. I just want people to know what they are buying before parting with their hard earned cash. That's not to say it's a bad product, it just doesn't do what it says on the tin.

mionet is installed by default, the operating system is a cut down version of linux. So to disable it, you will need hack into it, and its done by telling it it needs a firmware update but pointing to a hacked firmware here

http://martin.hinner.info/mybook/sshaccess.php

Then its recommended you disable mionet and not remove it:

http://martin.hinner.info/mybook/disable_mionet.php

i found disabling it didnt give much of a performance increase. I got it for the same reasons as you, to back up redundant data, but give it a try and dont back up too much, if you dont like it take it back. I started backing up data on a friday night and didnt finish until the middle of the following week (it really is that slow). but now its backed up i dont feel like returning it and to go through the whole exercise again.

Also consider a slug (NSLU2) and an external hard drive. might be a better option.

I know money is an issue, if it wasnt then i'd have bought a drobo, they are very cool.

was reading up on it this afternoon, it's good you posted it here. currently having issues logging in after the firmware update.
#37
JayDubya
Surely you're thinking of plain external drives? This is a NAS drive.

if he is then he's spot on. these are £109.99 with the USB interface.
#38
alchemistkevin
how can you use mionet if you don't have a paid account


External access to files on the drive is still available with the free account outside the trial period.

The paid account just gives you additional features (not ones I wanted) over the free account.
#39
fantastic, thanks for posting. in this case, I'll leave mionet running on the box. no reason to stop the daemon or is there?
#40
alchemistkevin
fantastic, thanks for posting. in this case, I'll leave mionet running on the box. no reason to stop the daemon or is there?


I see no reason to shut it down, I give secure web links to people I want to have access to my files over the internet the rest of the time I simple save my files (without using Mionet) to the drive via my network places. I only need to put files inside the Mionet area if I intend to share them.

Some of my laptops dont even have Mionet installed but I still have access the the area outside on my local network.

I have had my drive for ages, sadly only a 250GB but I'm very happy with the way I use it.

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