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#1
Good price considering 1TB's are still floating around the £100/each mark!

With this much data you'd have to use the RAID5 option though so you'd lose a TB of that...even so, 3TB is still a fair chunk of space that's protected by a single hard drive failure :)

Heated!
#2
Looks like a mini fridge i used to have.
#3
Meh. Poor deal IMHO. The going rate for a1TB drive is about £50, and I've seen 1TB NAS drives for £70 recently, so I don't think a 4TB NAS for £426 represents good value. For that money you could very easily build a new decent spec server with the same level of storage.
#4
But I guess if you specifically want a prebuilt 4TB NAS this is the cheapest option....
#5
J400uk
Meh. Poor deal IMHO. The going rate for a1TB drive is about £50, and I've seen 1TB NAS drives for £70 recently, so I don't think a 4TB NAS for £426 represents good value. For that money you could very easily build a new decent spec server with the same level of storage.


People thought recently posted Netgear Stora 1TB 2 Bay NAS was a bargain @ £119.99. Where is this 1TB NAS drive for £70, I might be interested?!

J400uk
But I guess if you specifically want a prebuilt 4TB NAS this is the cheapest option....


Indeed, if you specifically want this make and model, it is.
#6
DubDriver
Where is this 1TB NAS drive for £70, I might be interested?!


Expired now but was here - http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/615351/iomega-home-media-1tb-nas-network-h?p=7901588

There is of course the other option of getting a 4 USB 1TB drives (http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/656555/wd-elements-external-hard-drive-1tb) and one of these http://www.microdirect.co.uk/home/product/38590/Quad-Port-USB-NAS-Adapter?source=googleps which works out at about £250...

Personally though I'd buy a pair of these http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/657012/western-digital-2tb-hd-7200rpm-32mb (£200) and use the other £226 to build a little server.
#7


Oh come on, you can't go around compairing new prices to refurb stuff!
Shame really as I'm looking for something to go with the Sonos.

J400uk
There is of course the other option of getting a 4 USB 1TB drives (http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/656555/wd-elements-external-hard-drive-1tb) and one of these http://www.microdirect.co.uk/home/product/38590/Quad-Port-USB-NAS-Adapter?source=googleps which works out at about £250...


Plus a 4-Bay HDD Enclosure, that's another £80-£120 odd quid unless you want to run 5 PSU's all the time?
#8
No comments on the server idea?

DubDriver
Oh come on, you can't go around compairing new prices to refurb stuff!

Nearly new customer returns, supplied in as new condition with warranty. People thought it was a great deal, and rightly so. They are worth more on eBay.

DubDriver

Plus a 4-Bay HDD Enclosure, that's another £80-£120 odd quid unless you want to run 5 PSU's all the time?


So that justifies the extra £175 this costs?
#9
J400uk;8395867
No comments on the server idea?
Nearly new customer returns, supplied in as new condition with warranty. People thought it was a great deal, and rightly so. They are worth more on eBay.
So that justifies the extra £175 this costs?


Dead right, and I am a self-confessed cheapskate with such things!

If you have need for the sort of storage this provides, it's neater & more compact than what you suggest, will likely use less power, take up less room and most importantly it's not second-hand. For important data, used, bust & patched up kit is not my idea of good gear, and £175 quid sounds cheap to minimise the risk!
#10
J400uk
No comments on the server idea?

Nearly new customer returns, supplied in as new condition with warranty. People thought it was a great deal, and rightly so. They are worth more on eBay.

So that justifies the extra £175 this costs?


Yes, it was a great deal. And so would a grand off a nearly new car with 50 miles on the clock, but nobody would compare that with a new car would they!? Oh forget that ... I could build my own car and ask how they justify 4 times the price I could make one for myself (not really of course, but you get the idea)!

Besides the fact that this has more features than your 4 drives cobbled together, if you are personally happy to go the DIY route then fine. The point is, thought they are good suggestions, you are not comparing like for like.
#11
Something like the QNAP TS-410 at about £320 (with extra for the drives) would offer greater flexibility for not a lot more money. If you're spending this kind of money might as well get the best you can.
#12
DubDriver
Oh forget that ... I could build my own car and ask how they justify 4 times the price I could make one for myself (not really of course, but you get the idea)!

Could you have chosen a more unrelated comparison?
Whilst it is fairly easy to make your own external storage (if you HAD to)and achieve a similar end result - I don't think the same would apply to your home made car do you?
http://img.youtube.com/vi/WfNfwNWWphI/0.jpg
Made me chuckle though, have some rep! :thumbsup:
#13
Another alternative, consider buying 2 of these (£210) http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164264 and 1 of these (£190) http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168130

Saves you £25, will be far more powerful and capable, will also retain its value better.

http://image.ebuyer.com/UK/w0168130_normal.jpg

Can't believe a NAS is more expensive than a proper server!
#14
J400uk
Another alternative, consider buying 2 of these (£210) http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164264 and 1 of these (£190) http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168130

Saves you £25, will be far more powerful and capable, will also retain its value better.

Can't believe a NAS is more expensive than a proper server!


Agreed on this (although I'd say these drives as they are 7,200 rpm: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/171763). The sort of people needing 4TB of NAS space are perfectly capable of buying parts for a PC and putting in two 2TB drives or buying a ready built server/PC and adding the drives in.

Alternatively, buy http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=1091772&source=froogle and put in those two 2TB drives, a 4TB NAS for ~ £320

So for that reason, I'm voting cold as the above is a much more powerful and better option IMO.
#15
J400uk
Another alternative, consider buying 2 of these (£210) http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164264 and 1 of these (£190) http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168130

Saves you £25, will be far more powerful and capable, will also retain its value better.

http://image.ebuyer.com/UK/w0168130_normal.jpg

Can't believe a NAS is more expensive than a proper server!


It isn't, 3Tb of raid protected data vs. 2Tb
You'd need 4x 1Tb @ £60 = 240 + 190 = £430
Then there's the issue of a 2nd ugly great box!
#16
DubDriver
It isn't, 3Tb of raid protected data vs. 2Tb
You'd need 4x 1Tb @ £60 = 240 + 190 = £430
Then there's the issue of a 2nd ugly great box!


Would love to hear your explanation of why a 160GB disk and 2x 2TB disks ends up smaller than the ShareSpace? Its 160GB more than the WD ShareSpace so the space will never be smaller.

Nevermind, I see where you're coming from. RAID 5 on 4 drives vs RAID 1 :)

Anyway, 1TB are half the price of 2TB drives: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164282 I'd still recommend a proper server
#17
Ok if you must have RAID 5

Buy 4 of these and remove from enclosure - http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/656555/wd-elements-external-hard-drive-1tb (£215) plus this http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168130 (£190). £20 cheaper than your deal OP :)
#18
jazzy639
Agreed on this (although I'd say these drives as they are 7,200 rpm: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/171763). The sort of people needing 4TB of NAS space are perfectly capable of buying parts for a PC and putting in two 2TB drives or buying a ready built server/PC and adding the drives in..


That's a big assumption! Fair enough, I wouldn't argue with you if one happens to be competent enough to put a server together yourself, is happy that it doesn't work out that much cheaper, is not a small neat ready-to-go solution, is OK with sorting problems out yourself. But just because a person needs that amount of room doesn't mean they either have the inclination to faf around putting one together or have the knowledge to do so!
#19
J400uk
Ok if you must have RAID 5

Buy 4 of these and remove from enclosure - http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/656555/wd-elements-external-hard-drive-1tb (£215) plus this http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168130 (£190). £20 cheaper than your deal OP :)


Well if I were seriously looking for one I'd be asking you to find be something smaller and better looking or I'd go for paying 20 quid more for the privilege of not having to make room for that ugly thing even if it doesn't do things a server can that I'd never use anyway!
#20
Sorry but I'm voting hot for the NAS. Has anyone else noticed the servers suggested don't actually have a RAID card with them? So your only option is to use each disk as network shares with no redundancy or purchase a RAID card (and your still looking at an additional £100). No O/S on the server either, so unless your average Joe who wants a quick and easy "Unwrap and plug in" solution then the server options isn't it. Yeah you can get Linux distro's which have RAID facilities, but then again they are software RAID. And I for one would never use software RAID to look after any of my important information!

The NAS is a good decent hardware RAID solution which is small in size, low power consumption compared to a server, much easier to use / manage / install and excels at what it was designed for... Being a NAS.
#21
phill2000star
Sorry but I'm voting hot for the NAS. Has anyone else noticed the servers suggested don't actually have a RAID card with them? So your only option is to use each disk as network shares with no redundancy or purchase a RAID card (and your still looking at an additional £100). No O/S on the server either, so unless your average Joe who wants a quick and easy "Unwrap and plug in" solution then the server options isn't it. Yeah you can get Linux distro's which have RAID facilities, but then again they are software RAID. And I for one would never use software RAID to look after any of my important information!

The NAS is a good decent hardware RAID solution which is small in size, low power consumption compared to a server, much easier to use / manage / install and excels at what it was designed for... Being a NAS.


If you just want a 4TB NAS in one single box plug in and go, the cheapest option as mentioned on the previous page would be one of these @ 110 http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=1091772 and two of these @ 87 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190145 which works out as £285 in total.
#22
cold. Could build one cheaper.

No need to get so defensive dd. Not as if you built the product, had to market it and then sell the piece of rubbish.
#23
mr.potato_head
cold. Could build one cheaper..


Oh clever you.

mr.potato_head
No need to get so defensive dd. Not as if you built the product, had to market it and then sell the piece of rubbish.


I'm sorry that you are not able to recognise a rational constructive conversation, well that was before you butted in and got personal.
#24
J400uk
If you just want a 4TB NAS in one single box plug in and go, the cheapest option as mentioned on the previous page would be one of these @ 110 http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=1091772 and two of these @ 87 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190145 which works out as £285 in total.


Correct me if I'm wrong but, the total raid protected capacity wouldn't be as large would it?
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DubDriver


I'm sorry that you are not able to recognise a rational constructive conversation, well that was before you butted in and got personal.


Im sorry you can't recognise a deal website when you see one but this is that site. Nothing constructive coming from your end only from the other user who is posting better options for people looking for a good NAS, if anything you are being destructive trying to persuade people to buy this pap wasting their hard earnt money.

You have posted a deal and the heat it has gained shows it is not a very good option for a NAS. You seem to be the only one believing that this product is any good and have been shown numerous other options that are both cheaper and better.

Normally I hate when people say they can build it cheaper to save a few pence but on this occasion, it will save you £200 or more to build your own 4tb storage system. I think this is why you will find that your deal is not as hot as you would like it to be :thumbsup:
#26
mr.potato_head
Im sorry you can't recognise a deal website when you see one but this is that site.


I'm sorry I didn't instantly recognise you as a troll or I wouldn't have bothered responding

mr.potato_head
Nothing constructive coming from your end


Nothing constructive coming from you except personal comments

mr.potato_head
only from the other user who is posting better options for people looking for a good NAS,


It's pity you both can't except that people have different needs from a product, not every one wants something the size of a fridge freezer or is able to make one themselves. As for "better", so far nothing has been suggested that equals this for price, capacity or convenience.

mr.potato_head
if anything you are being destructive trying to persuade people to buy this pap wasting their hard earnt money.


I see, it's OK for you to say it's pap but not Ok for me to say it's good. I humbly bow to your superior knowledge

mr.potato_head
You have posted a deal and the heat it has gained shows it is not a very good option for a NAS.


Since when has 'heat' been a "good option" gauge?

mr.potato_head
You seem to be the only one believing that this product is any good and have been shown numerous other


inferior

mr.potato_head
options that are both cheaper and better.


You don't really come up with anything to back up your claims do you?

mr.potato_head
Normally I hate when people say they can build it cheaper to save a few pence but on this occasion, it will save you £200 or more to build your own 4tb storage system.


Rubbish! You can't make one for that price, the nearest we got to it was £20 less. Then there is the little issue that not everyone is as clever as you and able to make one themselves plus there is time it takes to get the parts, assemble them and sort out problems. Not every has the room for a huge server or wants to look at one either. Surprise! Not every one is like you!

mr.potato_head
I think this is why you will find that your deal is not as hot as you would like it to be :thumbsup:


LOL I'm a little bit too old to worry the heat of one item!
#27
http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy318/digitalsparrow/PC-2-1.png?t=1271753742

This ok for you?

That is without shopping around and without looking for the cheapest of cheap parts.

Add two 2tb hard drives for £180 total and factor in £10 for miscellaneous screws, cables etc and use freenas as the o/s which is free and has plenty of raid options and all that is still just under £300, a whole £126 cheaper .... surprise :roll: :roll:

But your right not all people can bulid them so if you want, just pay for the parts, give me £50 on top of that and I will do it for you, that leaves it still £76 cheaper.

But wait of course you must still be right old man! WRONG!! Welcome to the 21st century. :thumbsup:
#28
DubDriver
a load of stuff


You seem to be ignoring the fact I proved you can build a NAS by buying an enclosure and a pair of 2TB drives, and at time of posting this was £140 cheaper than your deal. Its also smaller and just as easy to use.
#29
Another alternative - one of these empty NAS enclosures http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/3272306/D-Link-DNS-323-NAS-Network-Attached-Storage-Enclosure/Product.html?P36=LVWENW&affid=hotukdeals&awc=buyat&_$ja=tsid:11516|prd:hotukdeals plus a couple of the cheap 2TB drives mentioned in this thread already.

Fully functional small and compact 4TB NAS for under £280.
#30
mr.potato_head

This ok for you?

That is without shopping around and without looking for the cheapest of cheap parts.

Add two 2tb hard drives for £180 total and factor in £10 for miscellaneous screws, cables etc and use freenas as the o/s which is free and has plenty of raid options and all that is still just under £300, a whole £126 cheaper .... surprise :roll: :roll:

But your right not all people can build them so if you want, just pay for the parts, give me £50 on top of that and I will do it for you, that leaves it still £76 cheaper.

But wait of course you must still be right old man! WRONG!! Welcome to the 21st century. :thumbsup:


Your 21st century solution looks like something out of the arc!
Would you not need a monitor to go with that?
Raid capacity wise, would it not need 4 1Tb drives to be a like for like comparison to the ShareSpace which would cost another £60? Using your figures that's a massive 66 quid cheaper? :roll:
Do you not think the average person in the market for a NAS is likely to prefer a small neat box opposed to what you have suggested that is virtually a second PC?
Do you not think the average person who, I would have thought would be happy to leave the ShareSpace on all the time, as intended by the nature of the product, would be happy to leave your power hungry proposal on all the time?

Your system looks exactly what these one-box NAS solutions were designed to replace, I guess it's hard to put a price on convenience.
#31
Not gone down to £421.09
#32
J400uk
Another alternative - one of these empty NAS enclosures http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/3272306/D-Link-DNS-323-NAS-Network-Attached-Storage-Enclosure/Product.html?P36=LVWENW&affid=hotukdeals&awc=buyat&_$ja=tsid:11516|prd:hotukdeals plus a couple of the cheap 2TB drives mentioned in this thread already.

Fully functional small and compact 4TB NAS for under £280.


Yeah that's not bad, certainly the best of the many you've posted! I'd be happy with one of those but from a good deal/comparison point of view, the ShareSpace is not a 4 bay enclosure and so unfair to compare price after all there is an important reason the ShareSpace has 4 drives? :whistling:
#33
Not sure I see the advantage of the 4 drives? Means it takes up more space, makes more noise, uses more power and doubles your chance of a drive failing. Sure the ShareSpace has more advanced RAID options, but they are not worth an extra £145 IMO.
#34
DubDriver
Your 21st century solution looks like something out of the arc!
Would you not need a monitor to go with that?
Raid capacity wise, would it not need 4 1Tb drives to be a like for like comparison to the ShareSpace which would cost another £60? Using your figures that's a massive 66 quid cheaper? :roll:
Do you not think the average person in the market for a NAS is likely to prefer a small neat box opposed to what you have suggested that is virtually a second PC?
Do you not think the average person who, I would have thought would be happy to leave the ShareSpace on all the time, as intended by the nature of the product, would be happy to leave your power hungry proposal on all the time?

Your system looks exactly what these one-box NAS solutions were designed to replace, I guess it's hard to put a price on convenience.


Your ignoring the fact the PC based 4TB server will be a LOT faster and more powerful than a NAS, and it will have better upgrade capability and hold onto its value better.
#35
DubDriver
Your 21st century solution looks like something out of the arc!
Would you not need a monitor to go with that?
Raid capacity wise, would it not need 4 1Tb drives to be a like for like comparison to the ShareSpace which would cost another £60? Using your figures that's a massive 66 quid cheaper? :roll:
Do you not think the average person in the market for a NAS is likely to prefer a small neat box opposed to what you have suggested that is virtually a second PC?
Do you not think the average person who, I would have thought would be happy to leave the ShareSpace on all the time, as intended by the nature of the product, would be happy to leave your power hungry proposal on all the time?

Your system looks exactly what these one-box NAS solutions were designed to replace, I guess it's hard to put a price on convenience.



No you wouldn't need a monitor. Initially for setup you would but I'm pretty sure you will have a monitor if you are buying a NAS don't you think?

If you do want to match your deal in terms of Hard drives then thats fine, the home built one is still cheaper. You make it sound like £66 is not a big deal, I can assure you it is, if it isn't then please tell me why you are on a deal website. That's a weeks food shopping for some people.

What can I say I'm above average :) But seriously Im just showing what I would choose as a cheaper alternative, I have posted a machine that would be far better in terms of being able to upgrade when you need more storage as I'm sure at some point you will need it (remember this is the 21st century when technology is cheap enough so that you dont have to delete data everytime you want something new to store), if people want then there are more sleek machines out there that are even cheaper, you are doing your deal no favours.

You could build an atom based machine in a mini itx or matx case (no bigger in size than what you have posted) with 2 or 4 internal 3.5" bays depending on preference for £300 max. They run at about 35w making it extremely resourceful in terms of energy use allowing you to leave it on all day in confort that you are doing your bit to save this place and those cute little polar bears. :thumbsup:

Maybe time to think about giving up, your deal just isn't good for anybody.
#36
I think the critical thing the OP is missing is the fact just because Amazon are offering this particular device cheaper than anyone else, it dosent make it a hot deal

Essentially, a bigger more capable 4TB sever can be had for for less money, and a smaller more efficent 4TB NAS can be had for signficantly less money. Absouletely no reason to buy this.
#37
J400uk
Not sure I see the advantage of the 4 drives?


Raid 5

J400uk
Means it takes up more space, makes more noise, uses more power and doubles your chance of a drive failing.


Raid 5

J400uk

Sure the ShareSpace has more advanced RAID options, but they are not worth an extra £145 IMO.


Then you don't value your data.
#38
J400uk
Your ignoring the fact the PC based 4TB server will be a LOT faster and more powerful than a NAS, and it will have better upgrade capability and hold onto its value better.


The purpose of a NAS is just so that one can access a few files from elsewhere while ones PC is off!
#39
J400uk
I think the critical thing the OP is missing is the fact just because Amazon are offering this particular device cheaper than anyone else, it dosent make it a hot deal


Yes and no! It depends on your definition of a "hot deal". Since that hasn't been defined officially by this site then it's subject to your own interpretation. Therefore you are right to feel that it is not a hot deal for you and post alternatives, just as it is OK for me to answer them if I see disadvantages. Is that not reasonable? So far, your suggestions have not been a hotter deal for me because the capacity of the systems you have proposed is not as large as the ShareSpace and put half the data at risk. I'm sure with your research capabilities you could come up with something that, has the same size cabinet, has 4 bays, is made by a well known make and won't put 2Tb's of data at risk. Get searching ;-)

J400uk
Essentially, a bigger more capable 4TB sever can be had for for less money, and a smaller more efficent 4TB NAS can be had for signficantly less money. Absouletely no reason to buy this.


Yet to be confirmed!
#40
mr.potato_head
No you wouldn't need a monitor. Initially for setup you would but I'm pretty sure you will have a monitor if you are buying a NAS don't you think?


Yes, I can quite well invisage having to constantly fumble around the back of my PC swapping the monitor back and forth, when the thing decides just when you need it most, not to work for some reason or other. What an elegant solution .... not!

mr.potato_head

Maybe time to think about giving up, your deal just isn't good for anybody.

... Except the 4 out of 5 reviewers on Amazon.

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