Wharfdale DVDR24HD250 DVD Recorder with 250GB HDD and HDMI - £79.99 - HotUKDeals
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*** HALF PRICE ***

Don't think it's got Freeview but that's not really a problem if you have Sky or Freeview built in to your TV.

Recording Features:

DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD-R, DVD-RW recording capability.

250Gb hard disc drive.

Up to 351 hours of recording time.
General Features:
Black.

DVD-Video, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-Audio, CD-R, CD-RW, VCD, SVCD, Kodak Picture CD, copy protected audio CD playback compatibility.

Supports region 2 coding.

2 channel stereo output.

Mono sound.

Upscales to 1080i.

2 SCART sockets.

'Pause Live TV' function.

Remote control requires 2 x AAA batteries (supplied).

Size (H)6, (W)43, (D)33cm.

Weight 4.2kg.
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#1
wow, that seems like a great price for the specs.

The PVR alone is worth it, with DVDRW is a bargain

any reviews on this?
#2
marcosdjcm
wow, that seems like a great price for the specs.

The PVR alone is worth it, with DVDRW is a bargain

any reviews on this?


google turned up nothing in reviews or multiregion hacks, i have sky plus but may get this as a backup, had a few problems with skyplus,lack of freeview is a bonus as no freeview here for another 4.5 years :) voted hot ,i presume no hdmi cable is included?
banned#3
I have a question....

I want to cancel our Sky subscrition and just use the box/dish for their free channels. Could I buy one of these, run the Sky box through it (using wires, mirrors, magic and smoke) and record off of Sky?
#4
DanJackson
I have a question....

I want to cancel our Sky subscrition and just use the box/dish for their free channels. Could I buy one of these, run the Sky box through it (using wires, mirrors, magic and smoke) and record off of Sky?


In short, no. It uses an ariel and not a dish and I expect the only way in something like this manner is to record via SCART IN.
#5
DanJackson
I have a question....

I want to cancel our Sky subscrition and just use the box/dish for their free channels. Could I buy one of these, run the Sky box through it (using wires, mirrors, magic and smoke) and record off of Sky?


Yes you could using RGB scart in. Not having seen it I'm not sure of more than that. You would probably be able to watch a previously recorded program while recording from Sky but possibly not the built in analogue.
#6
ive got a similiar question, can i connect my normal sky box to this and record onto the hard drive?
banned#7
jamiemc88
ive got a similiar question, can i connect my normal sky box to this and record onto the hard drive?


That's pretty much what I meant, you just put it in a more concise way.
banned#8
You can't record from freeview if it's buit into the tv can you ?
#9
What does "2 channel stereo output" followed by "Mono Sound" mean?

Voted hot by the way
#10
RajaStyle
You can't record from freeview if it's buit into the tv can you ?


No, not if this doesn't have a built in freeview tuner. And I would only go for one that has.:thumbsup:
#11
Will this upscale stuff you've recorder if its going through the HDMI socket?

Ta :)
#12
Looks good. Good features,good price. Anyone have one? Can it be hacked to region free? Good points - bad points? Rep given,thanks :thumbsup:
#13
Shame there are no reviews on this item, as the brand Wharfdale really doesnt fill me with confidence.

So currently no vote either way.
#14
jazid
Shame there are no reviews on this item, as the brand Wharfdale really doesnt fill me with confidence.

So currently no vote either way.

Wharfdale stuff is pretty good imho.
#15
MrPinchPenny
Wharfdale stuff is pretty good imho.


What gives you that idea ? Wharfhale is nothing but a brand name used to re-badge imported Chinese goods. The company that used to make speakers has long since disappeared.
#16
Going_Digital
Wharfhale is nothing but a brand name used to re-badge imported Chinese goods.
The company that used to make speakers has long since disappeared.


That was my understanding - it is nice to hear someone else confirm my thoughts. Shame though....
#17
Man this is a hot deal, but I must resist. I will wait for a built in freeview. I will I will..... HOT

To the guy asking about cancelling Sky + subscription. Assuming you have fulfilled the minimum period you can still use your sky+ box to record free channels. Not sure if this helps..
1 Like #18
You get what you pay for people. I got one of these last time they were half price about 6-9 months ago (think it's HD is lower capacity than this one though) and i'm happy enough with it, I record onto Hard Disk including through NTL cable, and watch and record DVDs and it does an acceptable job. Build quality isn't great and if you're into HD and surround sound then you probably won't be happy with this, but then you should probably be spending more money if that's what you're into.
If you want something to replace your vhs, record tv onto and play dvds through a normal tv and you're happy to accept it may only last 2 years then I think this is a steal.
banned#19
If only it had the timeshift feature i would have snapped it up. But still a very good buy.
#20
Going_Digital
What gives you that idea ? Wharfhale is nothing but a brand name used to re-badge imported Chinese goods. The company that used to make speakers has long since disappeared.


And yet their speakers are highly rated even by audiophiles (see av forums) :thumbsup:
#21
Adnan786
If only it had the timeshift feature i would have snapped it up. But still a very good buy.


What does "pause live tv function" mean?
#22
BeerGoggles
Man this is a hot deal, but I must resist. I will wait for a built in freeview. I will I will..... HOT

To the guy asking about cancelling Sky + subscription. Assuming you have fulfilled the minimum period you can still use your sky+ box to record free channels. Not sure if this helps..


You can only use the sky+ to record if you pay £10 a month, or take the minimum £16 subscription package.
banned#23
Just because you have freeview on your TV does not mean you can necessarily record from it.
banned#24
RajaStyle;2490220
You can't record from freeview if it's buit into the tv can you ?

Some TV's do allow this.
banned#25
quarryfied;2490689
What does "pause live tv function" mean?

AKA timeshift :thumbsup:
banned#26
BeerGoggles;2490552
Man this is a hot deal, but I must resist. I will wait for a built in freeview. I will I will..... HOT

To the guy asking about cancelling Sky + subscription. Assuming you have fulfilled the minimum period you can still use your sky+ box to record free channels. Not sure if this helps..

I have to agree. It is a nightmare recording on to one of these without a freeview tuner (have to manually input start/end time, channel etc on both the freeview box and the recorder). I certainly wouldnt buy one now without twin freeview tuners.
#27
MrPinchPenny;2490648
And yet their speakers are highly rated even by audiophiles (see av forums) :thumbsup:
Yes, but these aren't speakers - these are re-badged Chinese electronic goods that are no better (or no worse) than any other re-badged Chinese electronic goods - which is most things nowadays.

The main problem with this sort of device, as I see it, is that it is extremely inconvenient to use, due to lack of Freeview integration. If you have Freeview built-in, you can navigate through the 7-day programme guide and record things with one click (or even do fancier things with newer models like record a series, or a programme by pressing a button during a trailer for it). How on earth do you do that with a separate Freeview tuner? How do you get it to change channels if you want to record multiple things? You also record the metadata such as the description, broadcast time and subtitles. And Freeview PVRs all have more than one tuner so you can record two things at once.

Moreover, the quality will suffer with these boxes because they have to take an analogue signal and re-code it. With a Freeview PVR what you see in playback is identical to what you see during record.

So for a device you want under your TV that just works, when you want to slump in front of the telly and rest the grey cells, I think this sort of thing is not a good choice. The extra you spend on a proper Freeview PVR will be repaid many times in sheer convenience.
banned#28
pibpob;2490962
Yes, but these aren't speakers - these are re-badged Chinese electronic goods that are no better (or no worse) than any other re-badged Chinese electronic goods - which is most things nowadays.

The main problem with this sort of device, as I see it, is that it is extremely inconvenient to use, due to lack of Freeview integration. If you have Freeview built-in, you can navigate through the 7-day programme guide and record things with one click (or even do fancier things with newer models like record a series, or a programme by pressing a button during a trailer for it). How on earth do you do that with a separate Freeview tuner? How do you get it to change channels if you want to record multiple things? You also record the metadata such as the description, broadcast time and subtitles. And Freeview PVRs all have more than one tuner so you can record two things at once.

Moreover, the quality will suffer with these boxes because they have to take an analogue signal and re-code it. With a Freeview PVR what you see in playback is identical to what you see during record.

So for a device you want under your TV that just works, when you want to slump in front of the telly and rest the grey cells, I think this sort of thing is not a good choice. The extra you spend on a proper Freeview PVR will be repaid many times in sheer convenience.

Spot on! :thumbsup:

There is a reason these analogue ones are going cheap now.
#29
csiman;2490902
AKA timeshift :thumbsup:
Not really - time shifting in the traditional sense is just like recording on a VHS tape to watch later. Pause live TV is a function of "chase recording" where you can play back the programme that is currently recording. If nothing is recording, as soon as you press pause, the screen freezes and the machine starts recording, so you can catch up at your own pace. This is great if the phone rings (you can also rewind), and even better to get rid of adverts - just pause for a while before you start to watch, and you can skip the adverts as you "catch up" with the live broadcast. And unless you specifically ask it to keep the recording it will dump it so your hard disk doesn't fill up with pointless stuff. It's fab.
banned#30
pibpob;2490992
Not really - time shifting in the traditional sense is just like recording on a VHS tape to watch later. Pause live TV is a function of "chase recording" where you can play back the programme that is currently recording. If nothing is recording, as soon as you press pause, the screen freezes and the machine starts recording, so you can catch up at your own pace. This is great if the phone rings (you can also rewind), and even better to get rid of adverts - just pause for a while before you start to watch, and you can skip the adverts as you "catch up" with the live broadcast. And unless you specifically ask it to keep the recording it will dump it so your hard disk doesn't fill up with pointless stuff. It's fab.

I agree but most people use timeshifting these days in the same sense as chase TV. Hence the question someone asked saying this recorder doesnt support timeshifting. :thumbsup:
#31
Can you connect your SKY+ box to this DVD recorder to copy recorded programs to the HDD and then to DVD? Secondly does it support menu and chapters feature when creating DVDs?
#32
no usb input? oh well. still hot
#33
I guarantee this will drive you mad - the fan is really noisy. It's OK for the money, but it does not do anything well. DVD recorder is average with quite a few spoilt DVD's, remote is the least intuitive thing I've ever seen.

So, it's noisy ( having to turn up the TV noisy), the remote will drive you mad, no timeshifting, you have to wait to the end of a recording to start watching & no freeview - AND it's specially made just for Argos.

I thought good name Wharfdale & bought one at £75 with smaller hard drive - took it back & swapped for one with freeview - took it back & bought a Sony RDR HXD 870 - a machine that's so good I've cancelled SKY. The Sony was £177 from Laskys.

Honestly keep your money & save up for a Sony.
#34
MrPinchPenny
Wharfdale stuff is pretty good imho.


Yes for filling up dustbins Whardale is pretty good.
#35
Wharfedale isn't the respectable audio company it used to be. So far as I know it is just an Argos owned brand now.
#36
i have got a freeview one:)
and yes, they are noisy:x
but you do get used to it:whistling:
1 Like #37
I got one of the smaller hard drive models for £50 just before Xmas.

In answer to some questions


Yes you can hook it upto a sky box, its what i have done with mine, works great as you can burn the progs to DVD and watch on a dvd player as well as watching off the drive.

It does give off a dull sound and that sound is quite random, you do get use to it after a bit. The quality and functionality are fantastic for the price. Its easy to use and simple to setup.

One thing though, for some reason you have to switch your AV2 output to scart CVBS on the model i have to get it to pick up the feed from your sky box, if you do not do this it will not show a picture just sound. Not sure why this is.


If you can put up with a bit of sound then its a great buy HOT HOT HOT
#38
Main specs

Manufacturer: Wharfedale

Blu-ray Recording: No

DivX Playback: without DivX Playback

Double Layer Recording: No

DVB-C: No

DVB-S: No

DVB-T: No

DVD Audio Playback: without DVD Audio Playback

DVD Player / Recorder: DVD Recorder

DVD+R Playback: DVD+R Player

DVD+R Recording: Yes

DVD+RW Playback: with DVD+RW Playback

DVD+RW Recording: Yes

DVD-R Playback: DVD-R Player

DVD-R Recording: Yes

DVD-RAM Recording: No

DVD-RW Playback: DVD-RW Player

DVD-RW Recording: Yes

DVI Interface: Without DVI Connection

Electronic Program Guide (EPG): No

Ethernet: No

Firewire IEEE-1394 Interface: No

Hard Disk Capacity in GB: 250 GB

HD-DVD Playback: No

HD-DVD Recording: No

HDMI Interface: With HDMI Connection

Integrated VCR: without Integrated VCR

IPTV (Internet Protocol Television): No

MP3 Recording: No

MPEG4 Recording: No

Number of Scart interfaces: 2

Progressive Scan: No

Show View: without Show View

Super Audio CD Playback: without Super Audio CD Playback

Super Video CD / Video CD Playback: Yes

Table / Portable: not Portable

USB Interface: No

W-LAN Connection: No

Cant find a region Hack either
2 Likes #39
I got the 160GB version of this one just before Christmas when it was £69.99.

On balance, it's usable, but it has a few annoying features:

1. The menu control is almost random. The same button does different things at different times, without any indication why. Typical of cheaper Chinese solutions.

2. When you record programs, you can only rename them up to 12 characters and text entry is PAINFUL.

3. You can't group your recordings into directories, so every recording you do gets put on a linear list, which takes forever to scroll through.

4. When you view TV through the thing, there's a beating audio artefact, which is quite annoying. Plus the sound quality is attenuated from the original source. Strangely, the recording sounds fine, it's just the output to the TV.

5. The beating pattern puts slight diagonal pulse through TV picture when watching via the unit, but again, this is not transferred to the recorded image.

6. The units fan is quite noisy.

7. It's foxed by macrovision encoding, meaning you can't transfer most of your old videos to HDD and subsequently DVD, which is sad. I primarily bought this to transfer lots of video camera stuff to DVD, which is does very, very well. The Virgin Media video on demand service also macro-encodes pre-recorded stuff and even stuff on replay, so you can't record that, which is a shame as it would allow you to encode entire series' onto DVD for free!

On the plus side:

1. It's cheap.

2. All my DVDs have recorded perfectly.

3. The quality of recording is surprisingly good.

4. It's good looking

5. It upscales to 1080i....although so does my TV and the jury is out on which is the better quality.


Summary

Yes, there are better units out there. Just none as cheap as this one. Reliability has been great. I've never lost any recording or HDD space, which is endemic on cheap machines.

If I had more money, I'd have gone for a known brand, but if £70-80 is your whack then this will do the job, but with more annoying features and less frills.

Would I recommend to others? Yes. Yes I would, if you want all these features for not much money.
#40
Thanks Kanester, all I needed to know is in your post! Here's some rep' for the effort!
Voted hot, not perfect but fantastic value for this kind of money.

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