Wharfedale HD Upscaling DVD recorder with HDMI for £39.99 @ Argos - HotUKDeals
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Seems a good price for a cheap upscaling dvd recorder

# Black.

# DVD-Video, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD-R, DVD-RW, VCD, SVCD, CD-audio, CD-R, CD-RW, MP3 Audio, JPEG, MPEG and copy protected audio CD playback compatible.

# DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD-R, DVD-RW recording capability.

# Mono sound.

# Supports region 2 coding.

# 2 channel output.

# 2 SCART sockets.

# HDMI output socket.

# Upscales to 1080i.

# Remote control requires 2 x AAA batteries (supplied).

# Size (H)6, (W)43, (D)33cm.

# Weight 4.2kg.
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#1
Seems like a bargain - what do people think?? I might get one
#2
As far as I can see you get the 30 day return option with this so it is hard to see how you could loose. I have reserved one & will confirm the return position when picking it up tomorrow.

Chris
#3
Electrical items are always exempt from the 30 day money back guarantee
#4
these are massive in depth ....i took mine back the next day
#5
Does anyone know if you would be able to put a virgin sd box through this to upscale it, as my sisters bought a hanspree and im not sure what the scaler in it would be like, could this be a cheap upscaler?
#6
1/3 of the HDMI lead too when you buy them together:thumbsup:

Just what my sister needs for her new Hanspree :thumbsup:
#7
dmorgs
Electrical items are always exempt from the 30 day money back guarantee

In this case it doesn't state that it is exempt but worth double checking at the checkout.
#8
In the item description "Mono Sound" surely that is a misprint?!?! If not as far as I am concerned deal is cold!..heck even mono VCR's were becoming out of fashion by the mid nineties!
#9
Mono sound? ...

voted cold.
#10
Not quite - it does Dolby 5.1. It just happens to also have a mono sound option apparently. Google it for more info.
#11
If the sound is MONO that means no home cinema... What a stupid thing to do, build an upscaling DVD recorder with HDMI for high-def movies and then cripple it with mono sound...

Weird, really...
#12
hermonhoop
these are massive in depth ....i took mine back the next day

your point being?
#13
Well the identical looking FREEVIEW version here http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=1500001001&productId=1500172499 has Nicam output so perhaps a misprint.

Strange though but worth taking the chance.
[COLOR=red]EDIT - As previously mentioned MONO is a choice not the norm. It outputs in NICAM!![/COLOR]

Would question whyit has been reduced and what the quality is like though.

You may wish to consider this info.
[COLOR=#483d8b]The Wharfedale DVDR24HD, Acoustic Solutions DVD160RW300, Wharfdale DVDR24HD160, Acoustic Solutions DVD80RW300, Wharfedale DVDR24F and a few others with Crown, Bush, Goodmans, Techwood(Tesco), Asda Duraband are all clones of the same machine made by Vestel in Turkey, they have a LSILogic DMN-8603 DVD recorder processor in them, but the record quality is not up to much if you compared them with other DVD recorders with Domino chips (Liteon LVW-5006) in my opinion there a bit hit and miss, hence the reason there usually under £70 for a stand alone DVD recorder. [/COLOR]


This model is the DVDR24HD
#14
I read on another forum that it just has the option for mono sound. It has stereo options too!

So i read from someone that has one.
#15
For £39.99 I would at least expect it to play divx. Since hd-dvd players going for cheap
#16
Its recorders / tv's with freeview built in that are excluded from the 30day money back guarantee (donoted by the cross next to items on the website)

I found out this out when I had to return a a HDD Freeview only recorder on behalf of my in-laws. Argos put a good fight but caved in when we sucessfully argued that there is no freeview reception in the area and Argos store knew this when it was sold as a "How about adding this to your purchase of your new TV?" and should have suggested as std DVD recorder instead so as to include an analogue tuner only and wasn't exempt.
#17
For those who missed it the first time around the offer on the Goodmans DVD player with HDMI and upscaling for £19.99 featured a week ago on these pages looks like its still on for anyone who's interested. Put Goodmans in the seach box and its fourth down the list.

Only a player not a recorder but dirt cheap at the price.
#18
Think its been asked by someone else, and no one has responded yet but does anyone who owns one of these know if the unit plays back divx/xvid files?

Jav
#19
[QUOTE=Njay]Its recorders / tv's with freeview built in that are excluded from the 30day money back guarantee (donoted by the cross next to items on the website)

Also i believe that it`s only Hard drive recorders that are excluded from the 30 day return policy , disc type recorders don`t seem to be .....i bought one of these from Argos just before Christmas for £59.99 but never used it and took it back shortly after as i was given a Sony one and opted to keep that instead..the Mono sound is as already stated just a recording option to save disc space i think .
#20
jawaid87
Think its been asked by someone else, and no one has responded yet but does anyone who owns one of these know if the unit plays back divx/xvid files?

Jav


If my memory serves me, i don`t think it does play divx/xvid files.
#21
seanjames
your point being?


my point being the player will be too big for some peoples units...;-)
#22
sabreliner
Might be as good as this player at half the price.


But this is a recorder as well?

Shame it doesn't appear to do Divx, not even the freeview version at £99 does either.

Rob
#23
welshblob
But this is a recorder as well?

Shame it doesn't appear to do Divx, not even the freeview version at £99 does either.

Rob


Nope....not a recorder, point taken, have amended my comments.
#24
hermonhoop;1577050
my point being the player will be too big for some peoples units...;-)

ok:)
#25
Voted hot. Its a DVD recorder for under £40, sounds like a bargain. I have a Wharfedale Freeview recorder and have been really pleased with it.
#26
rizla01
[COLOR=red]EDIT - As previously mentioned MONO is a choice not the norm. It outputs in NICAM!![/COLOR]


Analogue stereo through Scart yes, NICAM no. No VCR, DVD recorder will output NICAM even if they have a RF modulated output and most DVD recorders don't.
banned#27
rizla01;1576879

[COLOR=red]It outputs in NICAM!![/COLOR]


Where there the hell did you hear that? You don't know what you are on about!
#28
Does anybody know whether you can run a hard disk recorder through it so that it upscales the recordings from the HD? Also whether you could record onto the hard disk (from the TV) with it plugged into this unit?
#29
COLD!

Amazon do the award winning (WHAT HiFi 2007) Samsung HD870 upscaling DVD player for 43.40 inc P&P!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-DVD-HD870-Region-Player-Upscaling/dp/B000O12242/

Why spend 40 on a budget player when thats only 3 quid more?! Includes DivX decoding too.
#30
Pete95
COLD!

Amazon do the award winning (WHAT HiFi 2007) Samsung HD870 upscaling DVD player for 43.40 inc P&P!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-DVD-HD870-Region-Player-Upscaling/dp/B000O12242/

Why spend 40 on a budget player when thats only 3 quid more?! Includes DivX decoding too.


This is a DVD recorder, not just a player.
#31
Nieve question - whats upscaling?
#32
stphnstevey
Nieve question - whats upscaling?


It upscales your standard definition picture to high definition.
#33
Pete95
COLD!

Amazon do the award winning (WHAT HiFi 2007) Samsung HD870 upscaling DVD player for 43.40 inc P&P!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-DVD-HD870-Region-Player-Upscaling/dp/B000O12242/

Why spend 40 on a budget player when thats only 3 quid more?! Includes DivX decoding too.


(1) You're comparing a DVD PLAYER with a DVD RECORDER. The player is more expensive, so hardly like for like.

(2) You haven't even picked the best player. This - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-DVP5960-Multi-region-capable-upscaling/dp/B000G2Y59E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1202937553&sr=1-1 gets better reviews, is £3 cheaper, and also includes playback via a USB device.

:whistling:
#34
stphnstevey
Nieve question - whats upscaling?


Something that EVERY HD TV has built in, buying a DVD player or recorder specifically to "upscale" to HD is a total waste of money, better use £10 notes to light the fire.

If an HD TV didnt "upscale" it would display a small picture in the centre of the screen with black borders at top, bottom, left and right.

BTW, Wharfdale electronics is total and absolute garbage anyway, its just the cheapest stuff Argos (and a few others) can source in China and have rebadged.

Save your money or pay a deposit on a proper BluRay player.
#35
statto
It upscales your standard definition picture to high definition.


So it makes a normal picture into HD? You don't need a HD TV?
#36
raymcm
Something that EVERY HD TV has built in, buying a DVD player or recorder specifically to "upscale" to HD is a total waste of money, better use £10 notes to light the fire.

If an HD TV didnt "upscale" it would display a small picture in the centre of the screen with black borders at top, bottom, left and right.

BTW, Wharfdale electronics is total and absolute garbage anyway, its just the cheapest stuff Argos (and a few others) can source in China and have rebadged.

Save your money or pay a deposit on a proper BluRay player.


While all HDTVs upscale, not all do it as well. I've got a cheapo HDTV, and my upscaling DVD player definitely makes a better job of upscaling than the hardware built into the TV. Actually, not all HDTVs upscale in the sense that we're talking about here, as it's not just a case of fitting tv picture to the number of pixels you have, it's interpolating it in a way that doesn't make it look ragged.
#37
stphnstevey
So it makes a normal picture into HD? You don't need a HD TV?


Of course you do. It doesn't matter what you pump out of the player, if your TV is SD then so is the picture you'll be viewing.
#38
Reserved and picked up tonight, buy this and get the cable for £6.66. So about £46 in total. Plays proper store brought and copy dvd's brilliantly. Haven't had chance to burn anything yet, great looking thing too. Can't fault it really. :)
#39
statto
Of course you do. It doesn't matter what you pump out of the player, if your TV is SD then so is the picture you'll be viewing.


So if you have this + HD TV = HD

Other non-HDMI player + HD TV = non-HD

This also looks a good deal http://www.bigpockets.co.uk/product.php?lang=&submenu=&menu=&product=HW349&session=7109c700b81efb286e34e313f0dc70b9 if your looking for a HDD recorder instead.

What doe 'as new' mean?
#40
raymcm
Something that EVERY HD TV has built in, buying a DVD player or recorder specifically to "upscale" to HD is a total waste of money, better use £10 notes to light the fire.

If an HD TV didnt "upscale" it would display a small picture in the centre of the screen with black borders at top, bottom, left and right.

BTW, Wharfdale electronics is total and absolute garbage anyway, its just the cheapest stuff Argos (and a few others) can source in China and have rebadged.

Save your money or pay a deposit on a proper BluRay player.


I would disagree, try pumping through a HDTV via your standard RGB scart a DVD picture, or even for that matter a DVD player with Component outputs that doesnt have progressive scan. To get a decent picture displayed at a native resolution on a HDTV you need at least progressive scan Component output.

As for Wharfedale electronics being absolute garbage, well its true the stuff is sourced in china and rebadged, and I must admit I don't personally like the way Wharfedale as a once decent British speaker manufacturer has allowed this branding to take place....however on face value....

This DVD recorder is £40! Admittedly I am sure its not going to be brilliant and have the bells and whistles of models £150+. For someone that just wants to transfer stuff from VCR and do the odd recording of television though, providing it has an RGB scart input at the very least its good value for money.

If I think about my now 3 year old Panasonic DMR-E65 recorder that set me back £225, admittedly that has the benefits of enhanced editing by offering DVD-RAM recordings, besides that, it only allows recordings on DVD-R, and now 3 years later I would be hard pushed to make £50 second hand sale on that thing.

All things relative with technology and value for money I think providing this Wharfedale is a stable player that offers an RGB input, its fabulous value for money, with far less depreciation over 3 years...hell if it breaks in 3 years what have you lost!

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