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Ford Fiesta 1.0 EcoBoost 140 ST-Line SatNav 3dr - 24mth Personal lease (8k mpa) - 23 x £131.64 + £394.92 upfront - Total £3,442.64 - T.C.Harrison Ford / Whatcar lease £3,442.64

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Tidy wee car for the wife or the teenager Transmission:Manual Fuel Type:Petrol Body Style:Small family car Top Speed:125 mph Road Tax:Included UK Delivery:Included Metallic Paint:Includ…
dajambo Avatar4m, 1w agoFound 4 months, 1 week ago274 Comments
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My car is arriving on the 25th , finally...
ses6jwg
Folks had another quote today from a local Evans Halshaw Ford dealer
2017 ST line 2 door in Deep Impact Blue Metallic. 15k mileage allowance. Cruise control.
£509.97 + 35 payments of £169.99. excess mileage 3.96ppm with no admin fee
really stuck on these which do you think is best value folks? Do I stick with the zetec s black or go with the st line ?
don't know I need cruise or not really.

did u try tc harrison?
Folks had another quote today from a local Evans Halshaw Ford dealer

2017 ST line 2 door in Deep Impact Blue Metallic. 15k mileage allowance. Cruise control.

£509.97 + 35 payments of £169.99. excess mileage 3.96ppm with no admin fee

really stuck on these which do you think is best value folks? Do I stick with the zetec s black or go with the st line ?

don't know I need cruise or not really.
I went to local dealer they tried to get me onto options.

did get a PCH quote in the end but came in at 190 pcm on a 3+35 with cruise on 8k

dealer up north quoted me £170 pcm on 3+35 with cruise and 15k allowance... why such a gap? should I try to my dealer to match it or go for zetec s deal above? thoughts guys?
went a different route selling both our cars got a deal on the older zetec s black edition 3+35 £162 pcm 15k mileage with 3.3p excess 299 admin fee. privacy glass and spare wheel

Edited By: ses6jwg on Oct 28, 2016 11:56: wrong
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Citroen C1 Hatchback 1.2 PureTech Flair 5dr, personal lease, 24 months (3+23), 8 kpa, no admin fee, metallic paint, 118.04 per month all in, total £2,832.96. @ Evans Halshaw

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Hi, this is my first deal, so please don’t be too harsh. I have seen a few deals for Citroen C1 lately and this one is very similar to what I’ve got a while ago. This is top of the range (without ex…
dealster216 Avatar6m, 2w agoFound 6 months, 2 weeks ago30 Comments
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k7gixerboy
Again, if this is a LEASE agreement you are responsible for the balloon payment at the end. If you sell or trade tha car in & it makes more (unlikely) you keep the difference, if it makes less you pay the difference. PCP & PCH are less risk with a slightly higher payment.
Great price if the plan suits you though!
I can't see mention of a balloon in the specs?
PS Stop telling porkies.

If it's a lease there's a balloon payment you're responsible for - fact!

If contract hire the vehicle goes back, no choice in that.

Seriously, I hope you're a cash or HP customer, or are friends with a silicitor!


​Wow
Again, if this is a LEASE agreement you are responsible for the balloon payment at the end. If you sell or trade tha car in & it makes more (unlikely) you keep the difference, if it makes less you pay the difference. PCP & PCH are less risk with a slightly higher payment.
Great price if the plan suits you though!
I can't see mention of a balloon in the specs?
PS Stop telling porkies.
If it's a lease there's a balloon payment you're responsible for - fact!
If contract hire the vehicle goes back, no choice in that.
Seriously, I hope you're a cash or HP customer, or are friends with a silicitor!

You're confusing a personal lease with PCP. Don't worry easy mistake to make.
Again, if this is a LEASE agreement you are responsible for the balloon payment at the end. If you sell or trade tha car in & it makes more (unlikely) you keep the difference, if it makes less you pay the difference. PCP & PCH are less risk with a slightly higher payment.
Great price if the plan suits you though!
I can't see mention of a balloon in the specs?
PS Stop telling porkies.

If it's a lease there's a balloon payment you're responsible for - fact!

If contract hire the vehicle goes back, no choice in that.

Seriously, I hope you're a cash or HP customer, or are friends with a silicitor!
Got a pretty similar deal last month and received my C1 last week. Absolutely love it. Great little car.
I had a mate drive me around in one of these and it's surprisingly nimble for a 3-cylinder setup. It's not a BMW i8, but certainly handles it well around the bends.
It's all in the gearing and power to weight really. It's set up for city/town usage.
You're not gonna be touring europe in it.

Well not with only 8k per year mileage allowance!

Our C1 took an epic journey to Southern Spain in 2008. Driving was no issue. Lack of aircon was more of an issue. :)
It's also been snowboarding to the Italian Alps.
It has now retired from anything more than driving me to work. (Still 66 miles a day)
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FREE copy of Whatcar? Magazine!! RRP £4.99

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Free copy of Whatcar? Magazine. Totally free... no subscription needed, although you will get a phone call from a Haymarket magazine rep to try and sign you up... Just say NO!!!
Foxy Avatar6m, 3w agoFound 6 months, 3 weeks ago6 Comments
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markvirgo
Cold as you have to go through the grief of the pushy telephone sales call.


​To be fair I did make that very clear in the listing... It's not difficult to say NO!!
Cold as you have to go through the grief of the pushy telephone sales call.
heat from me :)
Cheebley
i think that deserves a little heat. thanks


Thanks! ​Unfortunately at -15 more people think it's colder than a snowman's junk!! What more do they want......Blood!?
i think that deserves a little heat. thanks
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AUDI A4 Avant 1.4t FRI SPORT 24+3 Lease £249.80pm Inc vat Swansway via Whatcar £6,744.60

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Not bad for an Audi A4 AVANT lease. This is for 10000 miles pa, excess mileage is 7.2p per mile.
Marmite32 Avatar8m, 1d agoFound 8 months, 1 day ago12 Comments
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Cold from me as i got this on the deal posted the other month and paying the same amount on 25k mileage.8)
Not nearly as good as the deal 2 months ago, but still a decent price for this car if a time machine isn't available.
brilliant price for a 2 year lease! hot!!
that's a good price for a good car
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Volkswagen Tiguan Diesel Estate 2.0 TDi BlueMotion Tech Match £4,742.40 (Lease) @ WhatCar

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For those that missed out on the Passat AllTrack deal, I know this is no where near as good but its not half bad £182.40 an month with just 3 months down as a deposit, its 8000 miles a year over 2 yea…
padone Avatar9m, 17h agoFound 9 months, 17 hours ago70 Comments
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djjibran
Mermoo
If my A3 sportback at £14pm doesn't come through I might get this...
how did you get that deal?


chezvegas85
MazingerZ
My insurance is currently £2,500+. :(
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Ferrari IN10 2012
VW?
Liar Liar Liar ....
CrazyBob
Looks a decent deal, I'm just waiting for the dealer to tell me VW won't let me have the Alltrack
My mate has been credit checked so his deals been honoured. They told him if they have not done a credit check then the orders will be cancelled, all theses credit checked are getting the deal.
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Nissan Nv200 Combi Diesel Estate 1.5 dci 110 Acenta 5dr [7 Seat] £3,324.56 @ arbury nissan £687.84 deposit and 23 months at £114.64 - whatcar.com

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7 seater mpv 24 month lease works out at £138.52 a month all in good for a large family on a budget. its based on a van so not the most refined mpv. 3000 n200,s will hit the streets of new yo…
oliver231 Avatar11m, 7h agoFound 11 months, 7 hours ago95 Comments
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m5rcc
neostar4096
not really as that is what was told to me by Audi. It was 24 months or 20'000 miles for the service. I had it as a company car so it made no difference to me if i had it serviced or not as it didnt cost me.
It would have cost you time and hassle should it have blown in your face, no?
i wouldnt have thought so since there is a manufacturers warranty with it being a brand new car. i doubt Audi wants the second hand market for its cars to drop if they are giving people the wrong information with regards to servicing.
Now, emissions on the other hand is a different story :)

YOUR time and YOUR hassle. I know it's covered by a warranty, but it's a ballache nevertheless...
m5rcc
neostar4096
not really as that is what was told to me by Audi. It was 24 months or 20'000 miles for the service. I had it as a company car so it made no difference to me if i had it serviced or not as it didnt cost me.
It would have cost you time and hassle should it have blown in your face, no?

i wouldnt have thought so since there is a manufacturers warranty with it being a brand new car. i doubt Audi wants the second hand market for its cars to drop if they are giving people the wrong information with regards to servicing.

Now, emissions on the other hand is a different story :)
After initially being quoted this price by Arbury Nissan, I have now had an email telling me that the price is over £300 per month - an increase of over 140% on the initial price quoted. Very annoyed at having my time wasted by these chumps :(
Sir Charles
jhw
trollipops
friiza
Do the back seats go.flat? Might want to fling a mattress in there for summer tourism
What kind of tourism is that for :{
Probably benefits tourism - you could get a Romanian family living in it.
I wonder if you could fit all the chips on your shoulder into the back of one.
I doubt it.

What, no sense of humour, Sir Charles? Probably had a brain bypass!
GalaxyFive
Is this deal still available? Link doesn't work

Nah....EXPIRED ......probably due to the sheer ugliness of it !..... LOL
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Peugeot 208 1.2 PureTech Allure 5dr - 2yr £133.24 a month £399.72 deposit £3,064.52 @ whatcar

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Good price for a mid level hatchback. I actually quite like the look of this - keeping an eye on it in the new year for a potential second car (although I've changed ideal vehicle about 10 times).…
GreyWales Avatar11m, 2w agoFound 11 months, 2 weeks ago4 Comments
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johnthehuman
Not sure how it rides...1.2 so will definitely be horrifically slow!
ftfy

in comparison to an Up! or something like that. Ha clearly not against a Golf or A4...
Not sure how it rides...1.2 so will definitely be horrifically slow!

ftfy
god a 208 gti was a bargain wasnt it :)
Worst new car I've driven. The engine has won many accolades. Reving the **** off of it to move away from a standstill, didn't seem to get highlighted ;) Terrible car
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VW Tiguan 2 year lease 8,000 miles a year - £216pm £648 deposit - no additional fees £5,616.00 @ whatcar

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Been looking at these for a while. It is the standard 2wd model, but great price for what you are getting (ignoring emissions scandal). Depreciation calculator for the model shows £8,815 reduction
GreyWales Avatar11m, 3w agoFound 11 months, 3 weeks ago57 Comments
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Anyone still waiting for their Tiguan to arrive? Mine won't turn up until the 2nd week of March....
Got one of these for the wife in March two year deal and cannot wait to give it back, she will not drive it at all due to handbrake, auto lights, auto wipers, turning off at lights etc.

I did not like it either to begin with but now getting used to it.

Make no mistake its a very fast car will do 140 easy at 3500 revs.

Its good for making you walk as the wife makes me park it miles away from any other car to stop any damage.

Took gap insurance as well.

Not a comfy car as I always get a sore butt quickly, turning circle very poor.

Will need tyres before handing it back and a service which will be expensive, any damage will need sorted as well.
GreyWales
magic_man
Thanks, just ordering the tiguan - working out at over the term as 7392.85 but I upped the milage to 15k PA and added service and maintenance...
Make sure it's not cheaper to just pay the extra mileage fees on the 7.2p per mile or whatever it is before ordering :)

Thanks! I was going to opt for the 8000 miles and pay the 7.2p but if you do that and add servicing they told me I might only get the services up to 16000 miles... not sure if that is true.... but I wanted tyres and servicing covered so I only have to worry about the insurance....

I'm pretty much guaranteed to do over 30k miles in the 2 years. More likely 40k but at an overall cost of £308 per month all in other than insurance it's allot cheaper than my 318d...

Gap insurance purchased too.

Should take delivery after xmas.

Thanks for posting.
magic_man
very tempted to get on the bandwagon here, especially with the low price on the additional MPG. Should I be getting things like gap insurance?

Think you'd be bonkers not to get gap insurance on a lease.
magic_man
Thanks, just ordering the tiguan - working out at over the term as 7392.85 but I upped the milage to 15k PA and added service and maintenance...

Make sure it's not cheaper to just pay the extra mileage fees on the 7.2p per mile or whatever it is before ordering :)
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Nissan Note Hatchback 1.2 Visia 5dr lease deal £590.34 deposit 23 months @ £98.39 £250 admin fee £3,103.31 @ whatcar

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8000 miles a year not as good a deal as the pulsar but not bad for small family car admin fee of £250 also.
oliver231 Avatar1y, 3m agoFound 1 year, 3 months ago36 Comments
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i have a rustbucket tht only cost £300
We have the Tekna version...great car.
Great price especially if you want a small car just to get to work,.
isitnexttohim
Lease deals are madness, as pointed out above - I could buy a TR7 for that money and sell it in two years time and turn a profit.


​Here we go.....
Try haggling the administration fee down, it sometimes works if other lease companies are close to this deal. It worked for my missus.
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Nissan Pulsar Diesel Hatchback 1.5 dCi Visia 5dr lease £709.62 deposit and 23 months at £118.27

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8000mls a year a diesel family car for under £120 a month.
oliver231 Avatar1y, 3m agoFound 1 year, 3 months ago400 Comments
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I got one on the deal great car and economy they even included force red met paint for free. also didn't pay admin fee. I got Bristol street motors to price machine. Comes out at £120.89 per month for me.
local dealer Bristol street motors. even got matelic paint for free
paultravis146
picked mine up on this deal yesterday, great car for money

Did you have to pick it up from your local dealer or was it delivered to your address?
picked mine up on this deal yesterday, great car for money
Has anyone actually gone for this deal?
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Volvo V40 Hatchback T2 R DESIGN 5dr - 2 Years Personal Lease (8k mpa) - £6,058.00 / £252pm @ P.V. Dobson Volvo

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Seems like an ok deal on a decent looking motor - might interest someone. 3 x £233 = £699 initial payment 23 x (£233 monthly) see below for other payment options :
dajambo Avatar1y, 6m agoFound 1 year, 6 months ago82 Comments
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indyjukebox
Del
A lease car restricted to 8k / year is pretty useless for most people who might need one for work, or utilise a cash allowance etc to cover the costs.
Personally imo anyone who actually does less than 8k per year but pays out to lease a brand new car must be crazy. Agree with the comments about buying a car a few years old, or for such low usage one 5 years old will be so much more cost effective and reliable enough as long as it's been looked after properly.
I do around 20 miles per day with work related commuting. So around 4000 miles pa, that gives me 4000 miles for my leisure use. How is that classified pretty useless?
You presume reliability with a 5 year old car. You have no way of knowing it it was trashed or not. Main dealer service history and a few stamps do not constitute reliability. Most internal and external misuse of a car can be easily concealed with a good valet and some smart repairs.Plus if you have the disposable income to afford a lease, why is it crazy?
I said a lease car restricted to 8k per year was pretty useless for MOST people who might need one for work, not all people. So you do 4k business miles a year, good for you, you're probably in the minority of business car users with that, and therefore wouldn't be relevant for my comment. Why you therefore felt compelled to justify it I don't know.
And the other comment I made was clearly stated as IMO anyone doing such low mileage would be better off buying rather than leasing is what I think. TO lease is just throwing serious money away, but if people have the wish to do so I couldn't care less, it was just my opinion, which I stand by. If people are doing serious business mileage then a lease with proper mileage allowance makes far more sense, but for under 8k a year I don't think so.

Your opinion is very valid. Calling people crazy is not required though. Hence my question at the end of my post.
Good deal
Get the D4 - great performance
indyjukebox
Del
A lease car restricted to 8k / year is pretty useless for most people who might need one for work, or utilise a cash allowance etc to cover the costs.
Personally imo anyone who actually does less than 8k per year but pays out to lease a brand new car must be crazy. Agree with the comments about buying a car a few years old, or for such low usage one 5 years old will be so much more cost effective and reliable enough as long as it's been looked after properly.
I do around 20 miles per day with work related commuting. So around 4000 miles pa, that gives me 4000 miles for my leisure use. How is that classified pretty useless?
You presume reliability with a 5 year old car. You have no way of knowing it it was trashed or not. Main dealer service history and a few stamps do not constitute reliability. Most internal and external misuse of a car can be easily concealed with a good valet and some smart repairs.Plus if you have the disposable income to afford a lease, why is it crazy?

I said a lease car restricted to 8k per year was pretty useless for MOST people who might need one for work, not all people. So you do 4k business miles a year, good for you, you're probably in the minority of business car users with that, and therefore wouldn't be relevant for my comment. Why you therefore felt compelled to justify it I don't know.

And the other comment I made was clearly stated as IMO anyone doing such low mileage would be better off buying rather than leasing is what I think. TO lease is just throwing serious money away, but if people have the wish to do so I couldn't care less, it was just my opinion, which I stand by. If people are doing serious business mileage then a lease with proper mileage allowance makes far more sense, but for under 8k a year I don't think so.
Del
A lease car restricted to 8k / year is pretty useless for most people who might need one for work, or utilise a cash allowance etc to cover the costs.

Personally imo anyone who actually does less than 8k per year but pays out to lease a brand new car must be crazy. Agree with the comments about buying a car a few years old, or for such low usage one 5 years old will be so much more cost effective and reliable enough as long as it's been looked after properly.

I do around 20 miles per day with work related commuting. So around 4000 miles pa, that gives me 4000 miles for my leisure use. How is that classified pretty useless?

You presume reliability with a 5 year old car. You have no way of knowing it it was trashed or not. Main dealer service history and a few stamps do not constitute reliability. Most internal and external misuse of a car can be easily concealed with a good valet and some smart repairs.Plus if you have the disposable income to afford a lease, why is it crazy?

Edited By: indyjukebox on May 26, 2015 00:03
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Ford Kuga Diesel Estate 2.0 TDCi 150 Titanium X Sport 5dr 2WD - 24 Month Personal Lease (8k miles per year) £6,057.71 / £252pm @ Evans Halshaw Lease £6,057.71

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Ford’s stylish and eye-catching Titanium X Sport series has joined the new Kuga range to offer the highest specified Ford SUV available, with the following styling, luxury and technology features as s…
dajambo Avatar1y, 6m agoFound 1 year, 6 months ago15 Comments
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mailmikey
Go for a KIA Sportage with 7 years warranty...
why would i wont to keep a car 7 years?
I kept my last one 10. Sometimes if it ain't broke don't fix it.
Now I'm leasing on a 2 year deal, at £138 a month on a Titanium TDCi a focus. It made more financial sense now.
mailmikey
Go for a KIA Sportage with 7 years warranty...
why would i wont to keep a car 7 years?
Go for a KIA Sportage with 7 years warranty...
Why so cold? It's a great deal... If you voted cold explain please?
Not on a x sport they won't have done
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Lexus IS 300h Executive hybrid car 2 year business contract hire £1293.65 + 23 x £215.60 = £6,252.30 (average £260.51 a month over 2 years inc. VAT)

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Found at Lexus Sheffield via What Car? website. Various Lexus dealers have similar deals, though. Nearly went with this deal last year: http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lexus-300h-hybrid-car-2477…
djc0367 Avatar1y, 7m agoFound 1 year, 7 months ago8 Comments
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bik rate?
Toyota have up the game in the latest lexus 300h/RX models...Have some heat.
Insomniac82
I've got a lexus and boy do they drink petrol...
good job its a hybrid then
I've got a lexus and boy do they drink petrol...
I can vouch for the Lexus RX 450h, its a dream to drive. 8)
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New Grand C4 Picasso 1.6 e-HDI 18 Month Lease - Citroen MANCHESTER £3,822.88

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I dont think this is a bad deal at all for a brand new car, and an 18 month lease. 1st Payment 997.27 (inc VAT) 17 Payments 166.21 (inc VAT) Total Cost £3,822.88 So it works out to be £212.38 a
PierremontQuaker Avatar2y, 7m agoFound 2 years, 7 months ago52 Comments
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You can get this cheaper from Gateway2lease. Their deal is only 5k miles per annum, but its £3,339 inc vat for 18 months ;)

http://www.gateway2lease.com/z_citroen_grandc4picasso_e-hdi90psvtretgauto_14436_leasing.php#.U1wbdfldWSo

Edited By: lhurren on Apr 26, 2014 21:51
Hi,
I own previous model of this car, 1.6 hdi automatic. Use it daily as commuter, people carrier, recently also a van. Road handling not so great (compared to hatchbacks e.g. Focus) due to its size. It's not the fastest on the red lights but I've grown up now and learnt to drive calmly.
Can't complain, would definitely buy again and that's my plan.

Question, how does drivers insurance work on leased cars? Same as on owned? Same discounts apply?

Question 2, has anyone compared for himself typical value lost over the years compared to cost of leasing? I've seen marketing materials but I'd prefer owners opinion.
cheekytrucker
witters21
18 months is about its lifespan before it falls to bits !.Never again will I have a Citroen.
my 12 year old xsara Picasso 2.0hdi, which I can't bear to change because it costs me nothing except a service disagrees.
Your lucky I just don't like em.Also had a Citroen relay van ,after 2 years 38,000 miles it went in the garage and needed £2800 Spending on it,company wrote it off.
Cold its a Citroen........
Power isn't one of my priorities. I'm a bit too old now for getting my kicks out of being the first car off the starting block at traffic lights. My priorities are having a spacious, safe and comfortable car for me, my husband and 2 (soon to be 3) children, with room for a pushchair, dog, and shopping at an affordable price. This seems to fit the bill.
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wouldn't bother, they will spam the hell out of you, dennis publishing/bauer media
wow, their reviewing the new mini!!

cant see them selling many thgh, just a fad..... :-B
Select option 1, the call handler takes your details then offers you three issues for £3 aswell, which is cheap for this magazine.You can decline the offer and there is no pressure selling.

Ordered mine, thanks OP. Heat added.

Edited By: heada on Feb 06, 2014 17:12: updating
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Zero emmission contract hire - cheaper than you might think £8,700.00 3yrs via What Car Magazine

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Right, I've just done the maths and ordered a Nissan Leaf from WKB Nissan. We're a two car family, this is for the school run, taking the kids to Cubs, swimming lessons, the supermarket, and general…
Fogg1969 Avatar2y, 10m agoFound 2 years, 10 months ago252 Comments
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Fogg1969
Justifying my own actions here, not arguing - but:

Re contract hire Vs owning, I chose contract hire because costs are fixed. I know exactly how much I'm going to pay over the next 3 yrs.

I've only had to pay ~£1000 up front, then it's £176 per month + VAT. I'll get half the VAT back, so I'm looking at £8k over 3 yrs,

If I'd bought the same car outright I'd have paid £18k, maybe, and I'd expect to lose abouit £10k over term. I'd also have capital tied up in the car and TBH I'd rather have it invested elsewhere. If I'd taken the flex route I'd have paid £13k, maybe, and then £2500 renting batteries. I'd have had the freedom to sell the car sonner if I wanted to, but on balance it didn't make as much sense as contract hire.

Re older cars vs new, I know the deal I've taken only really makes sense if you're going to do 12,000 miles plus a year.

Here's my rationale though:

Leaf Contract Hire - 15000 miles pa.
£8k contract hire.
£450 excess mileage charge.
£1800 electrcity (based on £3 for 75 miles)
£400 servicing, maybe.
Anticipated total = £68 per week.

4yr old Civic diesel.
2010 SE 2.2 diesel = £8k
2006 SE 2.2 Diesel = £4k
Anticipated depreciation = £4000
Diesel cost @ 50mpg = £4500
Road tax = £400
Servicing £400
Money lost annually by having £8k tied up in car rather than solar PV £1500
Cost per week £69.

Not a lot in it really. :)
Very good reasoning IMO,
Plus, anything that goes wrong with the civic is out of your pocket, whereas anything wrong with the new Leaf is Nissans.

Anyone wanting to get a Leaf maybe as a second car, a good few 2011 Leafs (A slightly better spec than this 2013 Visia) should be coming off their 3-year finance agreements anytime now. Might be a few bargains to have, no battery rental on the GEN1's.

All leaf's got retrospectively upgraded to 5 year warranty 100,000km battery warranty.
Though garage repairs on an out-of-warranty leaf's is a untested area and could be very costly, as possible only the certified main dealers will touch it.

It is good reasoning if compared with secondhand prices at that level. However, you can buy a very good second-hand car for £2000 with a better spec than a new Leaf. There are even loads of cars around the £1000 mark that have years of life left in them with a little servicing (oil changes) and maintenance. Volvos / Peugeot diesels can go past 200k.

Maybe the second-hand Leafs will be more on my level of spending.

Edited By: picnick on Mar 18, 2014 00:04
Fogg1969
Justifying my own actions here, not arguing - but:

Re contract hire Vs owning, I chose contract hire because costs are fixed. I know exactly how much I'm going to pay over the next 3 yrs.

I've only had to pay ~£1000 up front, then it's £176 per month + VAT. I'll get half the VAT back, so I'm looking at £8k over 3 yrs,

If I'd bought the same car outright I'd have paid £18k, maybe, and I'd expect to lose abouit £10k over term. I'd also have capital tied up in the car and TBH I'd rather have it invested elsewhere. If I'd taken the flex route I'd have paid £13k, maybe, and then £2500 renting batteries. I'd have had the freedom to sell the car sonner if I wanted to, but on balance it didn't make as much sense as contract hire.

Re older cars vs new, I know the deal I've taken only really makes sense if you're going to do 12,000 miles plus a year.

Here's my rationale though:

Leaf Contract Hire - 15000 miles pa.
£8k contract hire.
£450 excess mileage charge.
£1800 electrcity (based on £3 for 75 miles)
£400 servicing, maybe.
Anticipated total = £68 per week.

4yr old Civic diesel.
2010 SE 2.2 diesel = £8k
2006 SE 2.2 Diesel = £4k
Anticipated depreciation = £4000
Diesel cost @ 50mpg = £4500
Road tax = £400
Servicing £400
Money lost annually by having £8k tied up in car rather than solar PV £1500
Cost per week £69.

Not a lot in it really. :)
Very good reasoning IMO,
Plus, anything that goes wrong with the civic is out of your pocket, whereas anything wrong with the new Leaf is Nissans.

Anyone wanting to get a Leaf maybe as a second car, a good few 2011 Leafs (A slightly better spec than this 2013 Visia) should be coming off their 3-year finance agreements anytime now. Might be a few bargains to have, no battery rental on the GEN1's.

All leaf's got retrospectively upgraded to 5 year warranty 100,000km battery warranty.
Though garage repairs on an out-of-warranty leaf's is a untested area and could be very costly, as possible only the certified main dealers will touch it.
Justifying my own actions here, not arguing - but:

Re contract hire Vs owning, I chose contract hire because costs are fixed. I know exactly how much I'm going to pay over the next 3 yrs.

I've only had to pay ~£1000 up front, then it's £176 per month + VAT. I'll get half the VAT back, so I'm looking at £8k over 3 yrs,

If I'd bought the same car outright I'd have paid £18k, maybe, and I'd expect to lose abouit £10k over term. I'd also have capital tied up in the car and TBH I'd rather have it invested elsewhere. If I'd taken the flex route I'd have paid £13k, maybe, and then £2500 renting batteries. I'd have had the freedom to sell the car sonner if I wanted to, but on balance it didn't make as much sense as contract hire.

Re older cars vs new, I know the deal I've taken only really makes sense if you're going to do 12,000 miles plus a year.

Here's my rationale though:

Leaf Contract Hire - 15000 miles pa.
£8k contract hire.
£450 excess mileage charge.
£1800 electrcity (based on £3 for 75 miles)
£400 servicing, maybe.
Anticipated total = £68 per week.

4yr old Civic diesel.
2010 SE 2.2 diesel = £8k
2006 SE 2.2 Diesel = £4k
Anticipated depreciation = £4000
Diesel cost @ 50mpg = £4500
Road tax = £400
Servicing £400
Money lost annually by having £8k tied up in car rather than solar PV £1500
Cost per week £69.

Not a lot in it really. :)
Fogg1969
Ours arrived yesterday. I'm really pleased with it. It seems incredibly nippy.

Average cost is £240 per month over term, with VAT, but given it's a brand new car covered by warranty and there's :

- no depreciation
- no MOTs
- charging costs negligible.
- £200 per year to insure.
- no road tax.
- no congestion charge.
- servicing costs minimal, no spark plugs or oil etc.

Then I maintain it's a pretty affordable way to get about. Locally!

It kind of makes me wonder why I'm probably the only person driving one within 30 miles of here. :)

As a comparison...

My car uses quite a lot of fuel and it is coming up to 20 years old.

Using the original OP's assumption of 15,000 miles:

21p per mile fuel (that would be lower for the average family car) plus £1000 of (generous) running costs (including maintenance/MOT/tax/oil/spark plugs/tyres/brakes) = 27p per mile with no monthly commitment to pay £240 and I own my car. Oil/spark plugs etc. are as negligible cost wise as the electricity you mentioned. The big costs are things like tyres and brakes and even electric cars use them!

For me, as previously mentioned, my car is also a hobby so I am naturally biassed regardless of the figures. However, it seems that buying a second-hand, reliable petrol/diesel vehicle with low-depreciating brand is still more cost effective than buying electric brand-new. It is also better for the environment from a manufacture perspective because the car has already been produced.



Edited By: picnick on Mar 17, 2014 14:17: Missed a bit
Ours arrived yesterday. I'm really pleased with it. It seems incredibly nippy.

Average cost is £240 per month over term, with VAT, but given it's a brand new car covered by warranty and there's :

- no depreciation
- no MOTs
- charging costs negligible.
- £200 per year to insure.
- no road tax.
- no congestion charge.
- servicing costs minimal, no spark plugs or oil etc.

Then I maintain it's a pretty affordable way to get about. Locally!

It kind of makes me wonder why I'm probably the only person driving one within 30 miles of here. :)
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Off topic,how do you find the ds3?

I have been looking at one for the past few months. Very happy with my car now but may consider a ds3 next time,that or a mini :)

Adam VXR is not far away ;)

What's Adam vxr?
Turbo'd version of one of these.
http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/vauxhall_adam_1.jpg


ugly car, stupidest name ever for a car and if its anything like the astra vxr the gearbox will be as robust as papermache


Hopefully it borrows some parts from the Corsa Nurburgring.

Looks are an individual thing, some like it, some don't. The name I don't see an issue with, it's named after the founder and on the continent it probably sounds better. The Ferrari Enzo seemed to do well. ;) There's certainly other daft names for cars about that have become commonplace over the years, Golf and Escort?

The issue I have with the car is the engines currently available, none have little in the way of performance, however when the new turbos are introduced it should shake things up.
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Off topic,how do you find the ds3?

I have been looking at one for the past few months. Very happy with my car now but may consider a ds3 next time,that or a mini :)

Adam VXR is not far away ;)

What's Adam vxr?
Turbo'd version of one of these.
http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/vauxhall_adam_1.jpg


ugly car, stupidest name ever for a car and if its anything like the astra vxr the gearbox will be as robust as papermache


Edited By: royals on Jan 29, 2014 00:54
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takethatfan1978
Off topic,how do you find the ds3?

I have been looking at one for the past few months. Very happy with my car now but may consider a ds3 next time,that or a mini :)

Adam VXR is not far away ;)

What's Adam vxr?
Turbo'd version of one of these.
http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/vauxhall_adam_1.jpg

I thought that's what you meant,why on earth did you reply with that?? I have no interest in one. I was merely asking what op thought of the ds3 as I like the look of them but don't know anyone that has owned one.

You mentioned you were considering a DS3 or Mini. The Adam is in the same sector, worth considering if you like customisable small cars.
fleet prices.co.uk for the ds3 . 171 on a 3+23 16k miles. diesel 1.5 95g co2
oddballjamie
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oddballjamie
takethatfan1978
Off topic,how do you find the ds3?

I have been looking at one for the past few months. Very happy with my car now but may consider a ds3 next time,that or a mini :)

Adam VXR is not far away ;)

What's Adam vxr?
Turbo'd version of one of these.
http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/vauxhall_adam_1.jpg

I thought that's what you meant,why on earth did you reply with that?? I have no interest in one. I was merely asking what op thought of the ds3 as I like the look of them but don't know anyone that has owned one.
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My Dad has one and i have to say i was very impressed, the only concern for me was that the full battery charge is about 93 miles range so is not very good if you are going a long distance. However if it is a second car or if you only stay local then its fab. It is free to have the charging station fitted at the moment. It is easy to charge and has a sat nav in the car which shows you how to get to your nearest charging point. I used my Dads for about 3 weeks whilst he was on holiday and i have to say i saved a small fortune on fuel. If i could afford to run 2 cars i would have one and i don't think my Dad would go back to a petrol/diesel car.
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and only £44k. Nice comparison.

Well if you were trying to come over all sense of humour failure, well done.

The "nice comparison" was actually of finance deals and the BMW is little more than twice the Leaf on that measure.

The "serious" point was that pure electrics are impractical for the majority of us whereas a petrol/electric hybrid can give you the best of both worlds.
I know ... I drive one.
I suppose it is a good deal if you're into this sort of thing, I imagine technology to go forward in leaps and bounds so long term I doubt one of these is a good investment, but changing it every couple of years probably is
buybuybuy

and only £44k. Nice comparison.

Well if you were trying to come over all sense of humour failure, well done.

The "nice comparison" was actually of finance deals and the BMW is little more than twice the Leaf on that measure.

The "serious" point was that pure electrics are impractical for the majority of us whereas a petrol/electric hybrid can give you the best of both worlds.

and only £44k. Nice comparison.
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Fishmaster - I'm after a 11 reg Giulietta and would really love to pay £8k - can you point me in the direction?
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One thing I really hope is that Alfa don't use daylight running lights on their new models, that has to be the tackiest addition to any car. Even the Hyundai i10 has them now.

European Union Directive 2008/89/EC requires all passenger cars and small delivery vans first type approved on or after 7 February 2011 in the EU to come equipped with daytime running lights and trucks & buses from August 2012.

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/daytime-running-lights/
Alfa make great looking cars. I nearly bought an Alfa bought I got my boring Golf, but unfortunately I needed something that I could drive everyday without the engine failing, the car rusting or the electrics failing. Having said that I believe the Guiletta is one of Alfa's more reliable cars. You can pick up 11 reg ones for under £8K, so unless you're a reg plate snob, save yourself a few quid and get a used one.

One thing I really hope is that Alfa don't use daylight running lights on their new models, that has to be the tackiest addition to any car. Even the Hyundai i10 has them now.


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Having owed an Alfa a few years ago I can tell you they are kit cars that need building as you go. The day the warranty runs out you don't won't to own one of these, spare parts / repairs are ridiculous. I took a 147 to a 100k miles, it sounded like a bag of spanners being kicked down a staircase due to a known fault with the cam belt variator, only £600+ to fix each time that went. Let's not talk about the gear box, £1000+ to fix that one!

I've had my Alfa GT for 5 years. The only thing that needed replacing was the turbo under warranty. Everything else has pretty much been wear and tear. I drive it like a maniac.
The Alfa Red paint is pretty poor for stone chips though.
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Not such a great deal when you factor in the eight month average lifespan of an Alfa gearbox 8)

That'll be 7 new gearboxes under the 5 year Alfa warranty then.

Only 3 years now, it was a limited offer last year.

Maybe they were in danger of bankruptcy if they kept the 5 year warranties up. The best looking car in the Golf sized class IMO, but just couldn't buy one over the MK7 Golf GTD I got a few weeks ago.
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Not seen this for a while so I have
ordered it. Thanks for the post.