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This is the better of the 2 midrange cards that have recently been released by nvidia and this is the best price i could find by quite a bit. The item is currently out of stock but an order will be honoured when new stock comes in.


Video Memory

Installed Size
256 MB

Memory Clock Speed
1.4 GHz

Technology
DDR III SDRAM

Video Output

Core Clock Speed
540 MHz

Digital Video Standard
Dual DVI

Graphics Processor / Vendor
NVIDIA GeForce 8600GTS

Interface Type
PCI Express

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#1
Actually the GTS is the best of the cheap cards recently released.

It's 8600GTS, then 8600GT. I know, it's always this confusing folks.

edit: Oh yeah, expected retail for the GTS was supposed to be around £150.00.
#2
eeerrm yes this is confusing looking at the core and memory clocks this is a GT not a GTS :o and thus not such a good price

and the deal breaker for me no HDCP as standard :x

bad dabs :roll:
#3
yes definitely a 8600GT. The GTS should have a core speed of 675MHz & a memory speed of 2Ghz.

The GTS is a considerably quicker card than a GT.

Chris
#4
Thus the Sparkle 8600GT for £75 delivered with Googless from ebuyer is the better value.

The GTS is quicker than the GT, but worse value for money compared with other cards in its price range. At £100 though it would have been great value. The GT is quite good value for its price range and performance.
#5
Fair enough. The price did seem a bit low for a 8600gts. Although they should really be around this price range for them to be competitive.
#6
good price, 128bit memory is a shame though
#7
These cards (all the 8500/8600 models) are astonishingly good for h264 playback - Buray discs that previously maxxed a 2ghz core2duo are now at 5% CPU. One site showed a Sempron 1.6ghz with the 8500GT only at 15% CPU.

Strange why any manufacturer would release them without HDCP though. All the models support it, it's just whether the maker chooses to include.
#8
arfster
These cards (all the 8500/8600 models) are astonishingly good for h264 playback - Buray discs that previously maxxed a 2ghz core2duo are now at 5% CPU. One site showed a Sempron 1.6ghz with the 8500GT only at 15% CPU.


Does this require certain software to make use of the graphics card for decoding h.264?
#9
Just to confirm, the XFX part number: PV-T84J-UDF3 googles to a 8600 GT graphics card.
#10
arfster
These cards (all the 8500/8600 models) are astonishingly good for h264 playback - Buray discs that previously maxxed a 2ghz core2duo are now at 5% CPU. One site showed a Sempron 1.6ghz with the 8500GT only at 15% CPU.

At the moment this feature is only supported under Vista but an XP version is being developed.
I wonder if these cards work this well with VC-1 encoded discs which all of the HD-DVD discs that I’ve come across use. I’m not sure if HD-DVD discs are using H.264!

arfster
Strange why any manufacturer would release them without HDCP though. All the models support it, it's just whether the maker chooses to include.

Quite a few of the 7 series support HDCP also but it’s rarely implemented.
Only the 8600 GTS has mandatory support for HDCP so don’t expect the cheaper ones to support it initially; I looked and couldn’t find one that did, although I may have just been looking at the passively cooled cards.

charlie12
Does this require certain software to make use of the graphics card for decoding h.264?

There is a version of PowerDVD that supports HD-DVD and Blu-ray that works with GPU hardware assistance for decoding. I’ve used it for HD-DVD playback on a PC using a 7300GS and it works fine. I’m not sure which version supports Nvidia’s Purevideo HD though or if it's been released yet!
#11
SmilingCrow
I wonder if these cards work this well with VC-1 encoded discs which all of the HD-DVD discs that I’ve come across use. I’m not sure if HD-DVD discs are using H.264!


They perform pretty much the same as the 8800 and 7 series with VC1 - in other words they roughly half the CPU hit. For modern processors this isn't a big deal though, since VC1 is very easy (eg 2ghz Core2Duo is 25% or so).

One other advantage over the 7 series is that the 8500/8600 can do various processing on VC1/h264 - the 7 series could only do this on MPEG2. Also, scaling and deinterlacing are a fair chunk better, which helps with upscaling DVDs and watching live TV.

There are a few HD-DVDs using h264 (eg Equilibrium and Babel). It'll become more common as the encoding tools are better - Microsoft has thrown money at trying to get VC1 to be the standard, with the result that their tools are initially better. However, h264 has lower patent costs, so in the long run is likely to become relatively more popular.


Quite a few of the 7 series support HDCP also but it’s rarely implemented.
Only the 8600 GTS has mandatory support for HDCP so don’t expect the cheaper ones to support it initially; I looked and couldn’t find one that did, although I may have just been looking at the passively cooled cards.


There are a few - eg Gigabyte has a 8500GT model. Quite rare though, as you say.


There is a version of PowerDVD that supports HD-DVD and Blu-ray that works with GPU hardware assistance for decoding. I’ve used it for HD-DVD playback on a PC using a 7300GS and it works fine. I’m not sure which version supports Nvidia’s Purevideo HD though or if it's been released yet!


PDVD 7.2+ supports it already, and so does the latest WinDVD. Not sure about Nero though.
#12
arfster
There are a few - eg Gigabyte has a 8500GT model. Quite rare though, as you say.
PDVD 7.2+ supports it already, and so does the latest WinDVD. Not sure about Nero though.

Thanks for the detailed reply. Here’s a link to the Gigabyte 8500 GT which is selling for $100 in the US: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/VGA/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=VGA&ProductID=2516&ProductName=GV-NX85T256H

I’m using PowerDVD Ultra 7.2 with XP Pro and it works with PureVideo HD but I’m not clear whether it already supports the latest version of PureVideo HD that the 8 series supports under Vista!
By the time XP support is added for the 8 series there should be some passive cards in the UK and ATI will have hopefully released their new cards to.

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