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4 Likes #1
Missing B20 support is a little annoying. Otherwise pretty good.
1 Like #2
I'm sure that they will do a full international version soon like with the 3 pro, this is great if you don't need b20
#3
Do you need to have the smarts to remove everything on these phones and load android onto it? Or is it ready to go out of the box?
#4
jenmumof5
Do you need to have the smarts to remove everything on these phones and load android onto it? Or is it ready to go out of the box?


yes, can be a faff.
#5
ken218
Missing B20 support is a little annoying. Otherwise pretty good.


Its not a problem if you're with a half decent network.
3 Likes #6
jenmumof5
Do you need to have the smarts to remove everything on these phones and load android onto it? Or is it ready to go out of the box?


This is the Global Rom, so should work straight out of the box.
#7
The only thing I don't like about the redmi 4 Pro are the black bezels around, unless you have this phone in gray. I had the redmi 3 pro gold (smaller black bezels) and the device is really good, but after loading few apps, it wasn't as smooth. The Snapdragon CPU in redmi 4 pro is much better then the Snapdragon in redmi 3 pro.

Currently I'm using the redmi note 3 pro with the Snapdragon 650 and I like it, yet I'd prefer the redmi 4, because it's smaller.
1 Like #8
Is this better than the redmi note 3 snapdragon 650 version?
This has a sd 625 processor right?
1 Like #9
little_green
Is this better than the redmi note 3 snapdragon 650 version?
This has a sd 625 processor right?
I read up on this before ordering a note 3 pro the other week. the 650 is less power efficient (although the note 3 pro comes with a big 4050mAh battery) but 2 of it's 6 cores are apparently much more powerful than any of the 625's 8 cores giving the 650 better single threaded performance, also I recall reading the 650 has a better GPU.... The 625 being better at multi tasking and power consumption. Formfactor wise the Note 4 is .5 inch smaller (probably due to its smaller, more power efficient chip... maybe, I'm not a phone-guy just passing on what I read)
#10
_clueless_
little_green
Is this better than the redmi note 3 snapdragon 650 version?
This has a sd 625 processor right?
I read up on this before ordering a note 3 pro the other week. the 650 is less power efficient (although the note 3 pro comes with a big 4050mAh battery) but 2 of it's 6 cores are apparently much more powerful than any of the 625's 8 cores giving the 650 better single threaded performance, also I recall reading the 650 has a better GPU.... The 625 being better at multi tasking and power consumption. Formfactor wise the Note 4 is .5 inch smaller (probably due to its smaller, more power efficient chip... maybe, I'm not a phone-guy just passing on what I read)


The Note 4 is 5.5 inches, the same as the note 3
#11
Just to clarify, this is a "Note" yes, the most current iteration of the Redmi Note 4?
2 Likes #12
slipd
Just to clarify, this is a "Note" yes, the most current iteration of the Redmi Note 4?


No, this is the 5" Redmi 4.
#13
slipd
Just to clarify, this is a "Note" yes, the most current iteration of the Redmi Note 4?
No, this is the 5" non note.
1 Like #15
djames108
I'm sure that they will do a full international version soon like with the 3 pro, this is great if you don't need b20


You always need B20 as UK networks have it. Foolish to buy phone without it to use in UK or Europe. But if you live in China, India or Africa etc it may not matter as this phone is made for them, not us.
#16
It seems to be a problem with the mii phones from xiaomi there is so many models and variants, then they launch the global versions that the likes of Ali express and bang good ship to UK customers who can't get them, then there's compatibility with UK networks and all the spec and features to take into consideration.
To be fair, most sub £130 phones from them are leaps and bounds ahead of what spec level you'd get in the UK price equivalent, but for first time users jumping in the whole experience can be a little daunting to say the least.
2 Likes #17
sam_of_london
djames108
I'm sure that they will do a full international version soon like with the 3 pro, this is great if you don't need b20
You always need B20 as UK networks have it. Foolish to buy phone without it to use in UK or Europe. But if you live in China, India or Africa etc it may not matter as this phone is made for them, not us.
B20 is handy, no doubt, though many hukders are happily using 3 (and other networks) without it. 2 of the 3 Xiaomi mobiles we have do not have band 20 and work perfectly.
3 Likes #18
sam_of_london
djames108
I'm sure that they will do a full international version soon like with the 3 pro, this is great if you don't need b20


You always need B20 as UK networks have it. Foolish to buy phone without it to use in UK or Europe. But if you live in China, India or Africa etc it may not matter as this phone is made for them, not us.


You don't always need B20 at all. Mine doesn't have it and works perfectly. Anyway, it's good to see you back. How you doing? How've you been? Do you fancy a pint?
1 Like #19
_clueless_
little_green
Is this better than the redmi note 3 snapdragon 650 version?
This has a sd 625 processor right?
I read up on this before ordering a note 3 pro the other week. the 650 is less power efficient (although the note 3 pro comes with a big 4050mAh battery) but 2 of it's 6 cores are apparently much more powerful than any of the 625's 8 cores giving the 650 better single threaded performance, also I recall reading the 650 has a better GPU.... The 625 being better at multi tasking and power consumption. Formfactor wise the Note 4 is .5 inch smaller (probably due to its smaller, more power efficient chip... maybe, I'm not a phone-guy just passing on what I read)
Confused are u talking about the note 4 or this the redmi 4 pro as they are different phones
#20
little_green
_clueless_
little_green
Is this better than the redmi note 3 snapdragon 650 version?
This has a sd 625 processor right?
I read up on this before ordering a note 3 pro the other week. the 650 is less power efficient (although the note 3 pro comes with a big 4050mAh battery) but 2 of it's 6 cores are apparently much more powerful than any of the 625's 8 cores giving the 650 better single threaded performance, also I recall reading the 650 has a better GPU.... The 625 being better at multi tasking and power consumption. Formfactor wise the Note 4 is .5 inch smaller (probably due to its smaller, more power efficient chip... maybe, I'm not a phone-guy just passing on what I read)
Confused are u talking about the note 4 or this the redmi 4 pro as they are different phones
Mainly just about the Snapdragon 650 vs the 625 ... looks like I may have been wrong about this phones size, but the bulk of my comment was just CPU Vs. CPU (and again: it's all second hand information form the internet I've not used a SD 625 phone yet)
#21
Price is wrong, unless you can see how to remove the replacement warranty, which I cant, even tried on the app.....seems like you are forced into the unwanted warranty
#22
best deal on mi5 in black w/ 64gb? seems out of stock everywhere
#23
The b20 Note 5.5" available at £129.42 albeit the gold version. I went for the b20 option, my first Chinese phone.
Good price, heat added.
#24
tomhood98
best deal on mi5 in black w/ 64gb? seems out of stock everywhere
Think the mi6 will be just around the corner hopefully
3 Likes #25
bak2brighton
Price is wrong, unless you can see how to remove the replacement warranty, which I cant, even tried on the app.....seems like you are forced into the unwanted warranty
You have to select usa but gbp then on shipping change it to uk, warranty is not there then.
2 Likes #26
sam_of_london
djames108
I'm sure that they will do a full international version soon like with the 3 pro, this is great if you don't need b20
You always need B20 as UK networks have it. Foolish to buy phone without it to use in UK or Europe. But if you live in China, India or Africa etc it may not matter as this phone is made for them, not us.
I don't always need b20. I hardly ever use mobile Internet. I Mostly rely on WiFi at home or at work. If I need mobile Internet outside of these locations I would still get 3g Internet. The 3g speeds are perfectly fine for me on these occasions. For power users on 3 network it's not a big deal either as they'll get their 4g most of the time without b20.
#27
djames108
I'm sure that they will do a full international version soon like with the 3 pro, this is great if you don't need b20
They did redmi note 3 pro international global etc. for Taiwan only. You can buy it from geekbuying only and have a lot of issues as it has not been made for international ROM. As i see Xiaomi has no plans to do phones with band 20. Even newest redmi note 4X is without it.
1 Like #28
As has been suggested before on many of these imported phone deal threads, but worthwhile reminding those that may not be aware, always always always use PayPal and/or a Credit Card if you want any chance of getting your money back if anything goes wrong with these lower cost high spec imported phones.

I am early in the process of trying to get my money back on a Redmi 3S that has in just under 6 months of faultless use, stopped working as a phone, as the mobile network chip / function. has gone tits up. No incoming or outgoing calls / texts or mobile internet, tried different known working SIM's . Reinstalled it, put in new APNs nothing, so it looks to be a hardware issue. ThankfulIy paid via PayPal so fingers crossed I will at least get my money back. :(
2 Likes #29
sam_of_london
djames108
I'm sure that they will do a full international version soon like with the 3 pro, this is great if you don't need b20


You always need B20 as UK networks have it. Foolish to buy phone without it to use in UK or Europe. But if you live in China, India or Africa etc it may not matter as this phone is made for them, not us.


O2 and half of Vodafone are the only U.K. Networks that use band 20.
#30
rkeeley
As has been suggested before on many of these imported phone deal threads, but worthwhile reminding those that may not be aware, always always always use PayPal and/or a Credit Card if you want any chance of getting your money back if anything goes wrong with these lower cost high spec imported phones.
I am early in the process of trying to get my money back on a Redmi 3S that has in just under 6 months of faultless use, stopped working as a phone, as the mobile network chip / function. has gone tits up. No incoming or outgoing calls / texts or mobile internet, tried different known working SIM's . Reinstalled it, put in new APNs nothing, so it looks to be a hardware issue. ThankfulIy paid via PayPal so fingers crossed I will at least get my money back. :(
Was you asked to send it back or are paypal happy to refund without? I know sending back isn't really an option.
Cheers.
2 Likes #31
little_green
_clueless_
little_green
Is this better than the redmi note 3 snapdragon 650 version?
This has a sd 625 processor right?
I read up on this before ordering a note 3 pro the other week. the 650 is less power efficient (although the note 3 pro comes with a big 4050mAh battery) but 2 of it's 6 cores are apparently much more powerful than any of the 625's 8 cores giving the 650 better single threaded performance, also I recall reading the 650 has a better GPU.... The 625 being better at multi tasking and power consumption. Formfactor wise the Note 4 is .5 inch smaller (probably due to its smaller, more power efficient chip... maybe, I'm not a phone-guy just passing on what I read)
Confused are u talking about the note 4 or this the redmi 4 pro as they are different phones
People are commenting thinking this is the Xiaomi Note Pro 4 5.5'' flagship phone when this is the mid range version with the SD625 chipset.
The Snapdragon CPU in redmi 4 pro is much better then the Snapdragon in redmi 3 pro.
That's just wrong. The SD625 is a mid range chipset that superseded the SD617 (same as you get with the moto G4). The SD650 you get in the Xiaomi Note Pro 3 is a new chipset (was when it was released) and is a complete different beast altogether.
When the SD650 was released it was the second most powerful chipset on the Qualcomm family (SD820 you see in all of the 2016 flagship phones being #1) SD820<--SD650<--SD810 (2015 flagship chipset).


Edited By: RiverDragon8 on Feb 26, 2017 14:55
#32
Will banking apps work on this, NatWest in particular?

Edited By: baztek on Feb 26, 2017 15:00: misspell
#33
baztek
Will banking apps work on this, NatWest in particular?
Natwest works just fine.
1 Like #34
pez555
sam_of_london
djames108
I'm sure that they will do a full international version soon like with the 3 pro, this is great if you don't need b20
You always need B20 as UK networks have it. Foolish to buy phone without it to use in UK or Europe. But if you live in China, India or Africa etc it may not matter as this phone is made for them, not us.
O2 and half of Vodafone are the only U.K. Networks that use band 20.
No they're not, Three and EE also now use B20 in some areas, which means all networks will benefit from it in most instances.

http://www.4g.co.uk/4g-frequencies-uk-need-know/

Edited By: dcx_badass on Feb 26, 2017 15:31
#35
fubuki81
djames108
I'm sure that they will do a full international version soon like with the 3 pro, this is great if you don't need b20
They did redmi note 3 pro international global etc. for Taiwan only. You can buy it from geekbuying only and have a lot of issues as it has not been made for international ROM. As i see Xiaomi has no plans to do phones with band 20. Even newest redmi note 4X is without it.


?????
they do the 3 series with band 20. Stands to reason the 4 series would eventually follow
#36
RiverDragon8
The SD625 is a mid range chipset that superseded the SD617 (same as you get with the moto G4). The SD650 you get in the Xiaomi Note Pro 3 is a new chipset (was when it was released) and is a complete different beast altogether.
When the SD650 was released it was the second most powerful chipset on the Qualcomm family (SD820 you see in all of the 2016 flagship phones being #1) SD820<--SD650<--SD810 (2015 flagship chipset)


Yup. Snapdragon 650 performance easily beats out the 625. This review has a comparison between the SD625 in the RMN4x and the SD650 in the RMN4P. The 650 wins out basically
https://www.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-4-xda-review/



Edited By: Codify on Feb 26, 2017 15:49
#37
pez555
O2 and half of Vodafone are the only U.K. Networks that use band 20.
O2 includes its MVNOs giffgaff and tesco mobile.

Plus Three and EE now use band 20 too in some rural areas to improve 4G coverage. If you are with them you will not get 4G in some areas
#38
kramvic
rkeeley
As has been suggested before on many of these imported phone deal threads, but worthwhile reminding those that may not be aware, always always always use PayPal and/or a Credit Card if you want any chance of getting your money back if anything goes wrong with these lower cost high spec imported phones.
I am early in the process of trying to get my money back on a Redmi 3S that has in just under 6 months of faultless use, stopped working as a phone, as the mobile network chip / function. has gone tits up. No incoming or outgoing calls / texts or mobile internet, tried different known working SIM's . Reinstalled it, put in new APNs nothing, so it looks to be a hardware issue. ThankfulIy paid via PayPal so fingers crossed I will at least get my money back. :(
Was you asked to send it back or are paypal happy to refund without? I know sending back isn't really an option.
Cheers.


Kramvic, haven't quite got to that stage yet, but based upon what I have seen others comment on HUKD about PayPal returns / refunds I will most likely have to ship it back to Spain ( I purchased via a EU warehouse so Spain is where the phone was shipped from ). Thankfully with the possibility of this exact situation in mind at point of purchase I paid a few €'s for insurance to cover return of the phone, although I think PayPal may cover the costs of the return up to €15 anyway. Perhaps other with more experience of imported phone returns may be able to confirm.
1 Like #39
rkeeley
kramvic
rkeeley
As has been suggested before on many of these imported phone deal threads, but worthwhile reminding those that may not be aware, always always always use PayPal and/or a Credit Card if you want any chance of getting your money back if anything goes wrong with these lower cost high spec imported phones.
I am early in the process of trying to get my money back on a Redmi 3S that has in just under 6 months of faultless use, stopped working as a phone, as the mobile network chip / function. has gone tits up. No incoming or outgoing calls / texts or mobile internet, tried different known working SIM's . Reinstalled it, put in new APNs nothing, so it looks to be a hardware issue. ThankfulIy paid via PayPal so fingers crossed I will at least get my money back. :(
Was you asked to send it back or are paypal happy to refund without? I know sending back isn't really an option.
Cheers.
Kramvic, haven't quite got to that stage yet, but based upon what I have seen others comment on HUKD about PayPal returns / refunds I will most likely have to ship it back to Spain ( I purchased via a EU warehouse so Spain is where the phone was shipped from ). Thankfully with the possibility of this exact situation in mind at point of purchase I paid a few €'s for insurance to cover return of the phone, although I think PayPal may cover the costs of the return up to €15 anyway. Perhaps other with more experience of imported phone returns may be able to confirm.
Thanks for the reply, hope you get it sorted.
#40
Codify
RiverDragon8
The SD625 is a mid range chipset that superseded the SD617 (same as you get with the moto G4). The SD650 you get in the Xiaomi Note Pro 3 is a new chipset (was when it was released) and is a complete different beast altogether.
When the SD650 was released it was the second most powerful chipset on the Qualcomm family (SD820 you see in all of the 2016 flagship phones being #1) SD820<--SD650<--SD810 (2015 flagship chipset)


Yup. Snapdragon 650 performance easily beats out the 625. This review has a comparison between the SD625 in the RMN4x and the SD650 in the RMN4P. The 650 wins out basically
https://www.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-4-xda-review/




isnt the821 #1?

and although the 650 appears better I wouldn't say it 'easily' beats it, there's not a huge amount in it.

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