Zoom Model 5800 Voice over IP Telephone Adapter - VoIP phone adapter - HotUKDeals
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Great price. I think 5800 is locked to GlobalVillage VoIP service, so to unlock it use:
username: administrator
password: metamorph
#2
Kommunist
Great price. I think 5800 is locked to GlobalVillage VoIP service, so to unlock it use:
username: administrator
password: metamorph
Nice one VOIP Master!
#3
Thanks :) Let me know if you need help configuring this thingy.

Also, this device isn't very NTL friendly. In short, NTL Caller ID doesn't work with stock firmware, because NTL in their infinite wisdom decided to implement US CLID system and not UK one. If your device don't want to show CLID, then contact Zoom support and ask for version 13B4 (I write it off my memory, so if someone is interested i can give exactl firmware number later).
Also, I posted here configurations for various providers like Voipcheap (and the rest of Betamax group), Sipgate and Voipfone.
#4
[SIZE=2]K thanks for your offer of help.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]just re-read your last very useful voip post [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17276&highlight=zoom+voip[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]Luckily on BT using a Netgear DG834gt.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]I am only on 1/2meg speed at the moment - will this still work ok?[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]according to zoom i should be able to use it on any provider.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=2]comparison list of voip products for reference. [/SIZE]
www.zoom.com/products/voip_products.html
#5
You should be fine with BT CLID. It is just NTL Zoom (and not only Zoom!) got problem with. 1M connection (I guess it is 256K up, 1MB down) should be fine for VoIP. I am not familiar with Netgear, sorry.. You might want to enable QoS to give Zoom priority over anything else (P2P for example). And put Zoom to DMZ of course.
#6
who is best for uk calls at the moment.?
is there a way i can benefit from my unused free minutes fromOrange everyday50
really bad signal in my house.
( i am aware of qxdial)
#7
I am using Voipcheap.COM (not CO.UK!) Free UK landline calls.
#8
Firstly I want to say this is a great device, I use it with VoipStunt for out going calls and with Sipgate for incoming calls. It basically gives me an extra line.

Kommunist: I need your help, you helped me set this up back in August and everything works except caller ID, that is when I ring someone my number doesnt show up on their phone. I use Sky broadband over a BT line and have a Netgear router. Any suggestions as to how I can get this to work?
#9
Betamax (Voipstunt/Voipcheap/etc) stopped allocating geographical numbers back in July, AFAIR. So if your outgoing setup is with Voipstunt, callee will see "Private" number.
If you want CLID on callee's phone, try Voipfone. These guys are UK company and allow you to set CLID for outgoing calls. It can even be your own BT geographical number. But they are more expensive than Betamax.
#10
cheers mate, I wont bother in that case. Still a great device if you want a second line.
#11
Hello guys,

First, please execuse my ignorance here.

I call Egypt all the time and I'm struggling to understand the benifits behind these things.

I pick up the phone (my normal home phone on the BT network of whatever) and call Egypt via an access number (http://www.TeleStunt.com, http://www.TeleDiscount.com,...etc) and it costs me 10p/min. If I want to use one of these fancy VoIP devices, the cheaptest rate I found to call Egypt is 13p/min - so what's the point?

You get free UK minutes with nearly every CPS provider nowadays and even free international calling to some countries - so where is the benifit of buying a VoIP adaptor/phone/whatever?

Apologies if I sound negative but if someone can enlighten me on this it'll be much appreciated.
#12
In your case, there is no advantage. When I had BT line, I used autodialer device (you are dialling normal number and it automatically rerouting it through cheapest provider).

However, if you are NTL customer, you are in trouble. NTL doesn't allow prefixes, so automated calls won't work. Of course, there are ways around it, but call would cost more.
So, if you are an NTL customer and want to make cheap calls, or want to ditch your landline completely then VoIP is the only option.
#13
Kommunist, with that username and password, is there any difference between the 5800 and the 5801? I want to buy one as mentioned before to route my BT landline via VOIP so I can pick it up anywhere in the world. I have been looking for one of these for a while but really wanted the 5801 or the 2 line version that should be available now (5840).
#14
As far as I understand, the only difference between 5801 and 5800 is that 5800 comes preconfigured for GlobalVillage. I think tthat 5800 also comes without printed documentation just with "Read me first" leaflet that describes how to connect it to network.

I could be wrong, as I am certainly not an expert in their products.
BTW, if full documentation is needed (there are three documents: Deployment Guide, Technical Reference and Read Me First) I have it, so PM me if you need it.

As to username/password, I think it should work for all 580x family. It worked on 5805 as well. And, BTW, I got this password from Zoom techie :)

Give Zoom a call and ask whether 5800 can be unlocked to be used with different providers, to be absolutely certain.
#15
i believe it can.
not sure if play are going to send this - order seems stuck on processing.
#16
I have a twin set of Dect Cordless phones.
Will i be able to use 1 on BT and 1 over Voip with this Zoom 5800?
thanks.
#17
No. Zoom will see it as one phone only.
But you can switch to landline calls any time by prefixing number with #8
#18
arrived today
struggling to set it up
will try again on tuesday
#19
Does anyone know if any of these deals represent an alternative to the Tesco internet phone adapter if you already have TIP accounts with credits on them.
#20
Whats this ....DMZ thing

Kommunist
You should be fine with BT CLID. It is just NTL Zoom (and not only Zoom!) got problem with. 1M connection (I guess it is 256K up, 1MB down) should be fine for VoIP. I am not familiar with Netgear, sorry.. You might want to enable QoS to give Zoom priority over anything else (P2P for example). And put Zoom to DMZ of course.
#21
dave111
arrived today
struggling to set it up
will try again on tuesday


What is the problem? Does it register with VoIP provider?

The DMZ is a short for Demilitarized Zone (nothing to do with Iraq :)). If you define device as DMZ in your router (normally by its MAC or IP), then it'll be completely exposed to Internet, without firewall protection. Do not forget to disable FTP/Telnet access to 5800 if you use DMZ.

2noble

If Tesco is using SIP protocol then probably yes. Unless your account is specifically tied to their phone.
#22
Knew Kommunist would answer these questions ;-) Thanks for your knowledge once again :)
#23
That was easy :)
#24
I do not think this comes with the right cable?
do i need to buy an adaptor to plug my phone into zoom5800.
what should the wiring look like?
#25
Mine came with BT-RJ11 adaptor.
Something like this:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/images/full/RZ79L.jpg

Funny enough, my phone (bought it from Argos!) got RJ11 connector, so it came with RJ11->BT adaptor. :)

UPD: Jeez, that pic is huge!
#26
mine only came with a network cable and
a rj11 to rj11 cable
but i dont think that it is wired correctly??
#27
OK, mine is a different model (5801), so maybe that's why.

but i dont think that it is wired correctly??
What are you talking about? The adaptor from Maplin? Or RJ11 cable?

BTW, in some phones you can simply unplug RJ11->BT cable that came with it and replace with RJ11< ->RJ11 cable. Then connect RJ11->BT cable to BT/NTL/whatever wall socket and the other end of it (RJ11) - to ATA.
#28
i mean the rj11
#29
Why not? The one that came with mine ATA works OK. Have you tried to actually connect ATA to phone and landline?
#30
just come back from maplin - with the bt/rj11 connector as pictured above.
just made and received my first call thru voipbuster.
#31
congrats :)

BTW, "received call" - did they allocated incoming number for you?
#32
Register on sipgate.co.uk and get UK Geographic number allocated to your computer
#33
I know about Sipgate and I posted this here several months ago :) But back in July '06 Betamax companies (Voipbuster, voipcheap, voipdiscount and a dozen of others) stopped allocating geographical or in fact any incoming number due to some legislation. I'm wondering whether they managed to resolve this issue and started numbers allocation again.
#34
i signed up to voipbuster last year and got my uk 0208 number with a £1 topup.

Many thanks for all the support.

last quick questions for now;)

1) I cant see an option to add more accounts? should this be possible on the 5800?


I have credit/freecalls on voipcheap.com but no incoming number
also have incoming number from voip.co.uk

would be good to be able to access alll of these.
thanks.
#35
If you click on "Advanced" icon on top, then you should see "Voip Accounts" on the left. Click it and you should see submenu:
Voip Account 1
Voip Account 2
Voip Account 3
Voip Account 4

I have a bit different firmware (Beta), so my setup might be different to yours, but I believe these submenus should be present in any firmware.
#36
i have a voip in number on voipstunt but it starts 05601 did get a sipgate number but found it a bit hit and miss with sound quality.
#37
I have geographical incoming number on Sipgate too. Never had any problem, but then I don't use it much (once a month or so). The 0560 numbers (I have one from Voipfone) are a bit problematic - not all foreign telcos can call it. Which is a pain when you are on holiday and want to call home.
#38
Kommunist
Thanks :) Let me know if you need help configuring this thingy.

Also, this device isn't very NTL friendly. In short, NTL Caller ID doesn't work with stock firmware, because NTL in their infinite wisdom decided to implement US CLID system and not UK one. If your device don't want to show CLID, then contact Zoom support and ask for version 13B4 (I write it off my memory, so if someone is interested i can give exactl firmware number later).
Also, I posted here configurations for various providers like Voipcheap (and the rest of Betamax group), Sipgate and Voipfone.


Hi Mate,

I use Sipgate with NTL cable and a Grandstream 486. I only get the first 8 digits showing on my 1000 md dect handset. As far as I know this is an issue with the dect handset/486 firmware and not NTL, as I am sure that other handsets show the full number.

Not sure if this sheds any light on the NTL clid issue.
#39
Yes, it is similar. Straight off the box, Zoom wouldn't support CLI Type1 (BT is using CLI Type2, AFAIR). They added support for it since 1.0.12 firmware.
And, guess what? It only passed 8 digits to the phone!

I had another lengthy discussion with Zoom support and they created 1.0.13B4 firmware, which is passing full number to handset. It got some other issues and most of features are undocumented (as usual) but it is pretty stable and CLI works most of the time.

As NTL, are you talking about NTL broadband (which has nothing to do with the problem) or NTL landline? The problem is with the latter.
#40
Just talking about NTL broadband, as I only have broadband and use sipgate voip for incomming calls.

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