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Great specification and the price has dropped even further now! This is a Pentium Sandybridge so marginally slower than a Core i3-2xxx series but not a lot in it but still fast and very efficient. Lots of RAM (with a spare slot), PCI-e slot in case you want dedicated graphics and generally a good all round purchase!

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ZOOSTORM DESKTOP PC, INTEL PENTIUM DUAL

CORE SANDYBRIDGE G630 2.7GHz, 4GB RAM, 320GB HDD

For a visibly smarter PC experience, look for the 2nd generation Intel CoreTM processor family. These new processors feature improved adaptive performance that adds speed when you need it and built-in visual capabilities for a better
PC experience you can see. We call that visibly smart performance. You’ll call it Amazing! 


The motherboard at the heart of this Intel Pentium Dual Core G630 Socket 1155 system provides onboard LAN, 5.1 channel surround sound and integrated Intel HD Windows 7 ready 2D/3D graphics. A 320GB SATA hard drive provides ample storage, whilst the 4GB of DDR3 RAM will be plenty to handle most software applications..

Please note that this desktop PC does not come with an operating system.
Ebuyer recommends using genuine Microsoft Software and is Windows 7 compatible. 


This system features a 1 year return-to-base parts and labour warranty.
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9 Likes #1
realblender
Seems like everyone who buys one of these ends up dissapointed and replaces the power supply.

Everyone apart from the 12 units that we use on a daily basis in our offices, yes everyone...
2 Likes #2
For home use or if you want to install a graphics card then it is worth buying one of the Antec PSUs for £20+.
15 Likes #3
realblender
plewis00
realblender
Seems like everyone who buys one of these ends up dissapointed and replaces the power supply.

Everyone apart from the 12 units that we use on a daily basis in our offices, yes everyone...
An office environment is where the noise of the fans really does matter. A very poor IT purchase decision which will drive down efficiency.

I'd seen your general arrogance with other people but this really is pretty far...

The computers aren't noisy and quieter than what was installed when I got here. If you think you can hear the fans over the radio and other general hub-bub, you're mistaken. I'd be surprised if you'd ever actually seen or used these machines.

If the power supply failing was a point of contention then while I haven't seen it myself I could believe it. Noise isn't an issue, why are you deliberately trying to mislead people?
banned 17 Likes #4
realblender
Seems like everyone who buys one of these ends up dissapointed and replaces the power supply.

Is there not a HDMI cable for you to review?
#5
No problems with mine
banned#6
no problems with mine either, one thing i have noticed is they are now using 4 pin cooling fans which offer variable speed compared to older models that only used 3 pin fans and ran at full whack all of the time. I think this is why these new ones seem to be much quieter. Ive had a few in the past and although i wouldnt say they are overly noisy these ones seem very quiet when compared to them.
#7
Looks like a good price.
I can't comment with regards to the noise as not had the pleasure of using one.
However, I do sit next to the server in our office and that would drown out a nightclub, so I'd have no issues!!
#8
great deal - heat added
4 Likes #9
He's rating it as if it's a gaming machine, this is for people who don't need anything spiffy, word, emails, google, nothing fancy, if you do ever need a better cpu and gpu then yeah upgrade psu, otherwise it's a decent deal :)

Prices for parts only your looking at:
CPU - £50
RAM - £20
HDD - £45
DVD - £15
PSU - £10
CASE - £10
MOBO - £40

Total = £190

So really, they're charging nothing to build it.. Normally buying pre built pc's is dearer than building yourself, but here, you couldn't build this exact machine for much cheaper, so heat added :)

Edited By: MiiCK on Mar 30, 2012 13:27: error
1 Like #10
MiiCK
He's rating it as if it's a gaming machine, this is for people who don't need anything spiffy, word, emails, google, nothing fancy, if you do ever need a better cpu and gpu then yeah upgrade psu, otherwise it's a decent deal :)

Prices for parts only your looking at:
CPU - £50
RAM - £20
HDD - £45
DVD - £15
PSU - £10
CASE - £10
MOBO - £20

Total = £170

So really, they're charging nothing to build it.. Normally buying pre built pc's is dearer than building yourself, but here, you couldn't build this exact machine for much cheaper, so heat added :)


Please post the deal for the £20 Skt1155 mobo please as I cant even buy them OEM for that price. :)
1 Like #11
realblender

An office environment is where the noise of the fans really does matter. A very poor IT purchase decision which will drive down efficiency.

No it won't. I have installed half a dozen of these recently and the noise is perfectly OK for a busy office. Too loud for a living room though.
1 Like #12
mikehoche
realblender

An office environment is where the noise of the fans really does matter. A very poor IT purchase decision which will drive down efficiency.

No it won't. I have installed half a dozen of these recently and the noise is perfectly OK for a busy office. Too loud for a living room though.



Yea, even if we ignore RB's usual high-handed, arrogant BS then it is still the case that I found the PSU too noisy for me, I swapped it for a £20 CiT 450w PSU which is nice and quiet.

Hot.
#13
the deal is a steal- hot!
2 Likes #14
realblender
A very poor IT purchase decision which will drive down efficiency.


You wouldn't last a year in business.
#15
stonebear
mikehoche
realblender

An office environment is where the noise of the fans really does matter. A very poor IT purchase decision which will drive down efficiency.

No it won't. I have installed half a dozen of these recently and the noise is perfectly OK for a busy office. Too loud for a living room though.



Yea, even if we ignore RB's usual high-handed, arrogant BS then it is still the case that I found the PSU too noisy for me, I swapped it for a £20 CiT 450w PSU which is nice and quiet.

Hot.


Will this PSU be able to handle a decent gfx card to make this a gaming rig?
banned#16
I've bought 8 of these and no problems at all.

I think most people who complain are jealous mac owners who get ripped off.
1 Like #17
This PC is great for the price and it is what it is.
snakeybidder
I think most people who complain are jealous mac owners who get ripped off.

Nah, I've never met a Mac owner jealous of a PC owner.
Some people just like to build machines with high quality components with more future capacity. I'm an IT professional and personally wouldn't use cheaper parts, but I'd happily let my sister have this PC as a periodic use home PC.

In a business environment the reliability of your PC could cost you a lot of money very quickly. I cannot comment on the reliability or mean time between failures of the parts in this machine, but we choose Intel main boards because they do publish this information and they are higher quality/better quality inspected than most.
#18
What mobo are they using?
#19
joedredd
This PC is great for the price and it is what it is.
snakeybidder
I think most people who complain are jealous mac owners who get ripped off.

Nah, I've never met a Mac owner jealous of a PC owner.
Some people just like to build machines with high quality components with more future capacity. I'm an IT professional and personally wouldn't use cheaper parts, but I'd happily let my sister have this PC as a periodic use home PC.

In a business environment the reliability of your PC could cost you a lot of money very quickly. I cannot comment on the reliability or mean time between failures of the parts in this machine, but we choose Intel main boards because they do publish this information and they are higher quality/better quality inspected than most.


Lucky you. Bar the rack mount servers the rest of the machines are awash with cheap tat parts from Dell, HP and the like. The most reliable machines are the old P4 IBM's.
#20
Heated, great deal given the current hard drive prices.

Nothing at all wrong with this for a knock about PC...
banned#21
tom6195
What mobo are they using?


Mines a Gigabyte GA-H61M-S2PV, decent enough board with plenty of expansion
#22
daveq78
tom6195
What mobo are they using?


Mines a Gigabyte GA-H61M-S2PV, decent enough board with plenty of expansion


Seems a bit hit and miss then as I'm sure from the other thread someone posted theirs had a ECS mobo.
banned#23
Will this PSU be able to handle a decent gfx card to make this a gaming rig?


Probably not as they usually ship with 300W PSUs and you ideally need 400W or above for a decent graphics card. If you're looking at turning it into a gaming rig then you'll want a decent PSU anyway. Some people have been lucky with these though and have received a 400/450W PSU, but from what I can gather, most end up with 300W. I purchased an Antec 450W PSU and it works a treat (they're much quieter too).
#24
can anyone confirm if it is indeed a GA-H61M-S2PV?
3 Likes #25
There's a G620 DIY combo on Scan's today only section for £179.99 until Monday. If you don't mind building a PC you'll get better components and better warranty on the CPU, memory... maybe more.

Rasurbo Basic&Case BC-12 black ATX Midi-Tower Chassis w/o PSU
500W PSU, EZCool Silent PS-10, Quiet Fan, ATX v2.03, 24PIN+4 80MM Fan
Intel Pentium G620, S 1155, Dual Core 2.60GHz, 3MB Smart Cache, 65W, Retail
Asus P8H61-M LE/USB3 REV 3.0, Intel H61, S 1155, DDR3, SATA II - 3Gb/s, PCIe 2.0 (x16), Micro ATX
4GB (2x2GB) Corsair DDR3 XMS3 Classic, PC3-12800 (1600), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, 1.50V
500GB Seagate ST500DM002 Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s, 7200rpm, 16MB Cache, 8.5ms, NCQ
#26
GAVINLEWISHUKD
daveq78
tom6195
What mobo are they using?


Mines a Gigabyte GA-H61M-S2PV, decent enough board with plenty of expansion


Seems a bit hit and miss then as I'm sure from the other thread someone posted theirs had a ECS mobo.


Mine came with an ASUS board P8H61-MX which is great :)
#27
Csirkefogo
GAVINLEWISHUKD
daveq78
tom6195
What mobo are they using?


Mines a Gigabyte GA-H61M-S2PV, decent enough board with plenty of expansion


Seems a bit hit and miss then as I'm sure from the other thread someone posted theirs had a ECS mobo.


Mine came with an ASUS board P8H61-MX which is great :)


As did mine. For what it's worth, the noise is actually a lot less than in the old ageing Athlon XP2000 rig it replaced. It is being used in a bedroom and it really isn't too bad. Not for a moment going to argue it's whisper quiet but it's not bad.
#28
I used to work for the company supporting these and we were always busy as they use the cheapest naff components, basically they are aiming at the catalogue market for people who need to pay weekly for a crap overpriced (once you add in the weekly commission etc) machine
#29
I need one as the PSU on my old XP machine went yesterday, but no Operating System, I will hold out and just use the laptop for now.

Heat though!
#30
me13
I used to work for the company supporting these and we were always busy as they use the cheapest naff components, basically they are aiming at the catalogue market for people who need to pay weekly for a crap overpriced (once you add in the weekly commission etc) machine

As someone proved earlier by specifying the components one-by-one how exactly is this machine overpriced using the 'cheapest, naff components'? Everything in the machine is brand name (apart from the PSU, but show me any off-the-shelf value PC that has a branded PSU) and works as it should.

Before you say something like economies of scale, if you did work for the company supporting these and therefore in the IT industry, you'd know that the margin on any computer component are razor-thin.
banned#31
italoarmstrong
can anyone confirm if it is indeed a GA-H61M-S2PV?

Just checked with Ebuyer and they claim this model has the Gigabyte board in all of them, the previous model it would appear used the ASUS board.
#32
Do these towers have front audio/USB capability? Its a bit hard to tell from the pics...
#33
Got one of the £199 versions, with 1tb drive and 8gb.
Can hear the fans but nothing noisy?
Mine has an ASUS card and all seems to be very quick and speedy and does all that I need. (except wireless)
#34
slipd
Do these towers have front audio/USB capability? Its a bit hard to tell from the pics...

yes 2 usbs and a headphone socket

i have the tower with 8gig ram and 1tb hard drive. the cases should be the same

Edited By: monty9120 on Mar 30, 2012 16:52
#35
monty9120
slipd
Do these towers have front audio/USB capability? Its a bit hard to tell from the pics...

yes 2 usbs and a headphone socket

i have the tower with 8gig ram and 1tb hard drive. the cases should be the same


+ A mic in, 3.5mm jack.
#36
doopydug

Will this PSU be able to handle a decent gfx card to make this a gaming rig?

Short answer: No
I wouldn't try and risk it either, budget PSU's can die-hard and take everything down with them (_;)

A half decent 500w PSU isn't that expensive and could easily run a mid-high end GFX card with peace of mind. No need to go overboard and buy some 800w+ like certain "experts" recommend
Unless you like burning cash
#37
Are you guys discussing the PSU fan, tower fan or both? I have an annoying loud tower fan. Am I right in thinking its relatively straight forward replacing this? Incidentally there was a decent deal for a PSU on this site a few days ago
#38
ibz2004
Are you guys discussing the PSU fan, tower fan or both? I have an annoying loud tower fan. Am I right in thinking its relatively straight forward replacing this? Incidentally there was a decent deal for a PSU on this site a few days ago

Yours came with a tower fan?
They are very easy to replace, check the maximum diameter fan the slot supports for the best cooling to noise ratio :)
Screw holes are the easiest way to tell

But I would disconnect said fan then test for noise before purchasing one though. Don't disconnect the CPU fan though!
#39
Great value for money, heat
#40
I will be honest with people and say that i truly belive that these are very noisy.
Bought one for my daughter and one for work.
for home they make me edgy as the noise is loud, however my girl does not mind and i dont have to use it, for work it is not to bad when hid beneath desk and the general hubbub of phones etc keep it low(er) still noticeable tho.

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