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Looks like a pretty good graphics card for £25, think i might get myself one!
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banned#1
just so you know, ill reserve until i get some expert opinions on this.

i hear 9400 is really backend, plus this is gddr2 not 3 etc so ill love to hear what people think?

would it be ok to buy two and run in SLI...anyone?
#2
If you *could* run in SLi, it'd still be pig slow compared to say, an HD4670 for £60

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158995

It's fine as a general GPU, but then so is an ancient Geforce 4 MX440 :-D
banned#3
thesilverfox
If you *could* run in SLi, it'd still be pig slow compared to say, an HD4670 for £60

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158995

It's fine as a general GPU, but then so is an ancient Geforce 4 MX440 :-D



lol thanks! recommend a decent nvidia card? less £100 ono which i could buy?
#4
Why cold though, this is a £25 graphics card, you could run all the graphics programmes on vista with this no problem, can run things like WoW, counter strike source (any hl2 game for that matter including left 4 dead) and call of duty 4&5 at excellent framerates... For a budget card, it is HOT...
#5
thesilverfox;4573335
If you *could* run in SLi, it'd still be pig slow compared to say, an HD4670 for £60

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158995

Or for £57.49 :D
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?NOV-4670

Useful link to compare graphics cards:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-radeon,2151-6.html
#6
But so can intergrated graphics.... Just get a MoBo with any modern chipset at the heart and your laughing.... the adder on a MoBo to have "G" is normally <£10 maiking this card £15 over priced....

Thats how I see this deal as being stone cold.

Hope this helps. :-)

Nick
#7
ngard81
But so can intergrated graphics.... Just get a MoBo with any modern chipset at the heart and your laughing.... the adder on a MoBo to have "G" is normally <£10 maiking this card £15 over priced....



it doesn't help, you don't make sense!

surely this gives much higher performance and framerates than any integrated chip? -particularly for htpc's

a good deal i think (£23.75 after rac code)
#8
Edbug
Why cold though, this is a £25 graphics card, you could run all the graphics programmes on vista with this no problem, can run things like WoW, counter strike source (any hl2 game for that matter including left 4 dead) and call of duty 4&5 at excellent framerates... For a budget card, it is HOT...


It'd run at decent frame rates on a resolution of 1024x768 with most eye-candy settings turned off - it's on par with the old and dated 9800XT, which is practically five years old.

I think what some people are suggesting, is that on-board solutions are probably as capable, if not better in some cases. I know some of the mATX boards have decent ATI solutions on board, including HDMI out up to 1080p, for less than £80.

As well, I think people might vote cold because of the fact that a few extra £££ means you can have something that is a huge amount better.
#9
im looking to upgrade my graphics card so that i can play empire total war anyone know if this card will give me a decent picture - i dont want to spend 50 60 quid on something like a 4670 because im only upgrading so i can play E:TW
#10
micoo
im looking to upgrade my graphics card so that i can play empire total war anyone know if this card will give me a decent picture - i dont want to spend 50 60 quid on something like a 4670 because im only upgrading so i can play E:TW


well you need shader model 2.0, this supports up to 4.0, you also need 256mb of vram, this should be fine on average settings, don't forget you need around a 2.4ghz processor and 1gb ram, 2gb for vista
#11
thesilverfox
. I know some of the mATX boards have decent ATI solutions on board, including HDMI out up to 1080p, for less than £80.
.


why would you when you can have this and a decent asus mobo for around £59, and have more gaming leverage?

this is a hot, these cards are £36 elsewhere, sure you'd be better with a hd 3650 or something for more up-to-date gaming, but this has a 33% or there abouts saving compared to elsewhere
#12
AugQX
why would you when you can have this and a decent asus mobo for around £59, and have more gaming leverage?

this is a hot, these cards are £36 elsewhere, sure you'd be better with a hd 3650 or something for more up-to-date gaming, but this has a 33% or there abouts saving compared to elsewhere


What's stopping you adding in a PCIe card in the future? I was only giving an example for an HTPC, as it included HDMI, which this featured card, does not. £59 board, £25 card, you're back at £84 ... but no HDMI and a poorer graphics solution!

Percentages of cost are relevant, of course. But small figures like this, present huge huge percentage variations when even adding a fiver ... and I'd hazard that most people can afford a fiver if they are buying a graphics card, most likely another tenner or even twenty, to get something more than twice as good.

As someone said - good for budget, but that's it. Don't expect newer games to be happy at the resolutions of newer and larger monitors.
#13
AugQX
well you need shader model 2.0, this supports up to 4.0, you also need 256mb of vram, this should be fine on average settings, don't forget you need around a 2.4ghz processor and 1gb ram, 2gb for vista


cheers for the info m8
#14
thesilverfox
What's stopping you adding in a PCIe card in the future? I was only giving an example for an HTPC, as it included HDMI, which this featured card, does not. £59 board, £25 card, you're back at £84 ... but no HDMI and a poorer graphics solution!



a decent entry level asus mobo is £35, + this card at about £24 = £59

good for gamers of older games (and should run cod4, a popular game at mid resolution 30fps+) and should be fine with most 720p stuff, if you're after hdmi as you say, you'd be better getting a more expensive card

not being able to play, say, crysis does not mean this is cold/warm, still a hot deal for the price, which is what i'm saying, as play are offering this card at a significant saving, even if limited appeal, can't see it being in stock for too long at this price
#15
this is actually 'out of stock' now...i ordered one last evening hoping they will get new stock.
if it says 'dispatched within 24hrs' then it's in stock....if it says 'dispatched within 4-5 days' then it's out of stock i think.
it does state 'out of stock' when ordering.
#16
Rubbish card at a great price so hot for me, after all imho we are here to vote on price:thumbsup:
#17


this is better :)

hot prices!! :thumbsup:
#18
thesilverfox
If you *could* run in SLi, it'd still be pig slow compared to say, an HD4670 for £60

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158995

It's fine as a general GPU, but then so is an ancient Geforce 4 MX440 :-D


This passive one rocks dont you know vicar! :thinking:
http://www.venomelectronic.co.uk/sapphire-ati-radeon-hd4670-ultimate-512mb-hdmi-pci-e-hd-4670-p-1388.html
#19
I'm after a Sapphire 4670 for dual screens - is there a passive version for dual screens?

I've only seen a passive version for a single screen output.

thanks
#20
ScoobyDoobyDoo
I'm after a Sapphire 4670 for dual screens - is there a passive version for dual screens?

I've only seen a passive version for a single screen output.

thanks


4670 supports dual screen by design, and does it much better than it's 3*** cousins

ps. the reference design is 'ATI HD 4670'
#21
I'm sorry to sound like such an absolute noob to this but why is this £25 when others are £100-150 for the same speed? I was told it was something to do with clock speed or real MB or something.

From a complete novices stand point 512mb IS 512MB surely?

Not putting a temp on this until i know some background.

Cheers :)
#22
hey guys, was looking to up my graphics card in my HP Desktop PC, which at the moment has a rating of 3.6 on vista, would this help get it over 5

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/teddyshady/PC.jpg
#23
Lost Symphonies
I'm sorry to sound like such an absolute noob to this but why is this £25 when others are £100-150 for the same speed?


they are not the same speeds, you gets what you pay for, graphics cards use several different types of ram at different speeds, bandwidth and processing power are also a factor
#24
so do you think this card will be good for running hd 1080p media?
#25
teddyshady
hey guys, was looking to up my graphics card in my HP Desktop PC, which at the moment has a rating of 3.6 on vista, would this help get it over 5



possibly 4.6 for graphics and 5.2 for gaming graphics, based on a look round of the web
#26
reckon this would out perform a 7900gt 256mb pcix?

EDIT: paired with a C2D E6600
#27
Lost Symphonies
I'm sorry to sound like such an absolute noob to this but why is this £25 when others are £100-150 for the same speed? I was told it was something to do with clock speed or real MB or something.


Megabytes are a measure of memory, not speed.

The RAM on a graphics card is less important than the GPU. Even when looking at the RAM there are many things to consider such as type and speed before the size.
#28
teddyshady
hey guys, was looking to up my graphics card in my HP Desktop PC, which at the moment has a rating of 3.6 on vista, would this help get it over 5

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/teddyshady/PC.jpg



What would help is if you upgraded Windows to a 64bit build, as currently you have 4GB of RAM and whatever memory your graphics card has, but Windows 32-bit can only allocate around 3.2GB to the user space.
#29
netdevil69
What would help is if you upgraded Windows to a 64bit build, as currently you have 4GB of RAM and whatever memory your graphics card has, but Windows 32-bit can only allocate around 3.2GB to the user space.


But apparently not allot of software work on 64bit vista?

I have thought and researched it but didn't get much good reasons to do the switch.

It has allocated 3.5 actually, 0.5 less then what vista 64bit would do I'm guessing.
#30
I dont play much games but would like my pc to be an all rounder... got **** loads of software on my PC hence why i is worried about installing the 64bit?

then again all those bad reasons where from 2007, Microsoft must have fixed all these issues by now?
#31
I have a new build PC, a year old now. Its true that some older hardware (really old) wont have 64bit drivers but ive never came across anything i couldnt get a driver for. The only thing is that 64bit vista wont allow you to install unsigned drivers, in 32bit versions of windows you have the option to bypass this and allow the unsigned drivers to be installed.

I do some pretty instensive work on my PC. its a digital audio workstation, where 64bits is now pretty much standard. If your worried about upgrading, or use alot of old hardware or unsigned drivers, a 64bit OS is not for you. (Personaly never had a problem, but i'd hate for you to switch and lose some of your software functionality)

Hopefully it will be standard soon , and Microsoft will stop releasing 32-bit versions, this will force 3rd party hardware manufacturers to write 64 bit drivers.
#32
netdevil69
I have a new build PC, a year old now. Its true that some older hardware (really old) wont have 64bit drivers but ive never came across anything i couldnt get a driver for. The only thing is that 64bit vista wont allow you to install unsigned drivers, in 32bit versions of windows you have the option to bypass this and allow the unsigned drivers to be installed.

I do some pretty instensive work on my PC. its a digital audio workstation, where 64bits is now pretty much standard. If your worried about upgrading, or use alot of old hardware or unsigned drivers, a 64bit OS is not for you. (Personaly never had a problem, but i'd hate for you to switch and lose some of your software functionality)

Hopefully it will be standard soon , and Microsoft will stop releasing 32-bit versions, this will force 3rd party hardware manufacturers to write 64 bit drivers.


There is no harm in testing I guess, got enough space to partition my system and try it out so will give it a go sometime this week and see how it functions! might jump to ultimate as well as vista upgrade advisor tells me my computer can take it!

Thanks for help mate

I read somewhere I can't install a 64 bit vista from a 32bit vista? is this true? or is that in terms of upgrading from a a 32 to 64, so would have to do a new installation?
#33
teddyshady
There is no harm in testing I guess, got enough space to partition my system and try it out so will give it a go sometime this week and see how it functions! might jump to ultimate as well as vista upgrade advisor tells me my computer can take it!

Thanks for help mate

I read somewhere I can't install a 64 bit vista from a 32bit vista? is this true? or is that in terms of upgrading from a a 32 to 64, so would have to do a new installation?


Yeah, it would have to be a fresh install, you can't upgrade (well its not an upgrade anyway, its a completely different OS) 32-bit to 64-bit. You could always dual boot, so you had your 32-bit setup, then when/if your happy everything works with 64 bit, make the jump.
#34
netdevil69
Yeah, it would have to be a fresh install, you can't upgrade (well its not an upgrade anyway, its a completely different OS) 32-bit to 64-bit. You could always dual boot, so you had your 32-bit setup, then when/if your happy everything works with 64 bit, make the jump.


Will do that, so do you recommend this card for my system with a 64bit or pay £70-100 more for top of the line card? I plan to make this my pc for a while, so a long run investment is more of my liking! but like i said i dont play much game's as i have a xbox 360 and ps3 but would be nice to have a good all rounder pc!

Now need to find me a 500gb or 1TB external to back up all my important stuff JUST in case! who knows with windows!
#35
awoodhall2003
reckon this would out perform a 7900gt 256mb pcix?

EDIT: paired with a C2D E6600


No chance, this actually quite as bit slower than a 6600gt if you look at the post linked earlier.

teddyshady
Will do that, so do you recommend this card for my system with a 64bit or pay £70-100 more for top of the line card? I plan to make this my pc for a while, so a long run investment is more of my liking! but like i said i dont play much game's as i have a xbox 360 and ps3 but would be nice to have a good all rounder pc!

Now need to find me a 500gb or 1TB external to back up all my important stuff JUST in case! who knows with windows!


If you upgrade every few years it is worth spending that bit extra for a longer term investment, unless you don't care about running current games. Not a bad card for a HTPC so heat added..
#37
Hinch87
No chance, this actually quite as bit slower than a 6600gt if you look at the post linked earlier.


yeah i checked it out and was amazed that although its 2 gen's newer it sucks! lol!
i dont really play many games but i can still play crysis on med for example. But my brother plays quite a few thus why was thinking could upgrade his or upgrade mine and he can have mine.

But not bad card for general usage.
#38
Thanks to the OP.

Very nice card for HDDVD/Bluray (DVI/HDMI adapter to TV especially). Great either for a starter or backup too.

No idea about games as the last one I played was Space Invaders. Or was it Galaxian? ;-)
#39
Bigger pic http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5203/large.jpg

Review http://www.xsreviews.co.uk/reviews/graphics-cards/zotac-9400gt-512mb/

Zotac http://www.zotac.com or use NVidia's drivers [url]www.nvidia.co.uk/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-uk[/url]

Try not to use the driver that's in the box as it may be complete pants.
banned#40
thankyou for posting this, got fed up with how long i've been waiting for gay.com's awful service to dispatch the hd2600 which i've been waiting for the past couple of weeks for to come in stock.

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