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The ZyXEL PLA4211 500 Mbps Mini Powerline Pass-Thru Ethernet Adapter improves performance for up to 60% comparing to the 200 Mbps powerline technology**. The compact design with extra power outlet gives you the convenience to deploy home networks without the compromises of your existing power outlet. The embedded noise filter of PLA4211 provides more stable multimedia streaming enjoyments by minimizing interference from other home electric devices.

ZyXEL PLA4211 500 Mbps Mini Powerline Pass-Thru Ethernet Adapter Starter Kit upgrades home networks with faster wireless speeds of up to 500 Mbps to provide more stable and reliable connections for web surfing.

The new, compact ZyXEL PLA4211 gives you the installation flexibility to turn power lines into a home network. You can conveniently deploy the home network and provide power to other electrical devices instantaneously through the extra power outlet. With plug-and-play installation of a pair of PLA4211, you can easily connect your Smart TV, Blu-ray™ players, DVRs, PCs or game consoles to the home network through any electrical outlet.
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1 Like #1
Only 100Mbps Ethernet ports, so you will not achieve the 500Mbps from a single device to single device connection that these allow. Should be looking for the 1000Mbps port adapters.
#2
Great price for pass through home plugs regardless of the lack of gigabit port.

Edited By: aceshigh on Jun 18, 2014 09:35
#3
Got these last time bargain :)
#4
ned1960
Got these last time bargain :)


How stable do you find these powerlines? any connection drops?

hot for the price
#5
rawson
Only 100Mbps Ethernet ports, so you will not achieve the 500Mbps from a single device to single device connection that these allow. Should be looking for the 1000Mbps port adapters.

You will probably not get anything like 100Mbps anyway from these "500mbps" devices. Its marketing ****.

Dont get me wrong, these will do a good job, just dont expect anything near 500mbps, same goes for pretty much all this sort of kit, thats why they only give you 100mbps ports.


Edited By: TheBlueRaja on Jun 18, 2014 10:29
#6
TheBlueRaja
You will probably not get anything like 100Mbps anyway from these "500mbps" devices. Its marketing ****.

You're wrong. I have a pair of the PLA4215 500mbps adapters and get around 34MB/sec throughput which is around 255mb/s.
2 Likes #7
I'm not sure how relevant this is but I've got loads of the 4201's, same device but without the passthrough. The original v1's all broke, one after the other (a known fault I'm sure). Fortunately Zyxel customer support is really good and have replaced all my failed units without question with the new v2's (ethernet port underneath unit on v1, on top of unit on v2). Despite this, they work(ed) really well. Easy to set up and fast. Dont worry about lack of gigabit ports unless you are seriously transferring shed loads of data on a daily basis. For most people I doubt you'd notice the difference between 100Mbps & 1000Mbps with normal usage.

I also like the fact they go to sleep if they don't detect a ethernet connection, so when you turn your pc off, the powerline it is connected to goes to sleep after about 5 minutes. Keeping energy consumption low (about 0.8w if I'm not mistaken)

If they don't have the v1 issue then I think it's a great buy. Even if they do, Zyxel Warranty for 3 years, means you should get a replacement by the time it fails (mine went after about a year of solid service).

NB: Price drop may be due to the AV500 series being superceeded by the new 600mbps versions.

ps: I should have pointed out the issue with the V1's is that they just die, no power, no lights, game over.

Edited By: Joefez on Jun 18, 2014 10:43
#8
Great deal for pass-through from a quality manufacturer. Use these already but not pass-through. Have proved reliable in use with desktops, sky, youview etc. Just ordered these because I'm always running out of 13 amp sockets.
#9
Joefez
I'm not sure how relevant this is but I've got loads of the 4201's, same device but without the passthrough. The original v1's all broke, one after the other (a known fault I'm sure). Fortunately Zyxel customer support is really good and have replaced all my failed units without question with the new v2's (ethernet port underneath unit on v1, on top of unit on v2). When they do work, they work really well. Easy to set up and fast. Dont worry about lack of gigabit ports unless you are seriously transferring shed loads of data on a daily basis. For most people I doubt you'd notice the difference between 100Mbps & 1000Mbps with normal usage.If they don't have the v1 issue then I think it's a great buy. Even if they do, Zyxel Warranty for 3 years, means you should get a replacement by the time it fails (mine went after about a year of solid service). NB: Price drop may be due to the AV500 series being superceeded by the new 600mbps versions.

I had the same issue with my v1 4201's. Every single one failed after a few weeks.
The first time they made me send the faulty unit back at my own cost.
Every subsequent time they didn't ask for the old unit back. The Zyxel support staff must have been so fed up with it that they knew which model I had as soon as they answered the phoned, they made me fill in an online form and a few days later a new powerline unit arrived. At first they were replacing them with other v1 units, all of which failed too. It wasn't until they replaced them with the v2 that they stopped failing. Must have had about 8 units replaced in all , and while it was annoying, I can't fault their support. In spite of the failures I still have confidence in Zyxel products because of the excellent support.
2 Likes #10
lentini

You're wrong. I have a pair of the PLA4215 500mbps adapters and get around 34MB/sec throughput which is around 255mb/s.
No you don't.

The fastest homeplugs on the market are AV2 600Mbps models. In this test they achieve 21.8MB/s in the same power-strip.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/networking/2013/07/30/zyxel-pla-5205-600mbps-powerline-adaptor/2

Which of course is not a real-world test, the signal is travelling a few inches. It is just to show they best speeds the hardware could possibly achieve.

In the 'typical conditions' test they get 11.6MB/s (about 93Mbps).

Since your model is inferior, there is no possibility that you get 34MB/s throughput over typical distances.

The PLA4211 (this deal) are in that test for anyone interested.
3 Likes #11
voodooboard
No you don't.

Oh sorry, I didn't realise you were in the room with me when I tested them
1 Like #12
lentini
voodooboard
No you don't.

Oh yes you do

http://www.toymaster.co.uk/live/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Punch-n-judy.png
2 Likes #13
lentini

Oh sorry, I didn't realise you were in the room with me when I tested them

I don't need to be in the same room when I know that something is technically impossible.

There is nothing on the market that can do 255Mbps sustained application layer throughput over typical conditions (ie distances greater than 1 inch).
3 Likes #14
lentini
voodooboard
No you don't.

Oh sorry, I didn't realise you were in the room with me when I tested them

You do realise his argument was backed up by evidence of testing rather than just a claim?
3 Likes #15
Ooooh an argument that references the 7 layer OSI model! Nice! 8)
#16
Was just about to buy a TP-Link 200Mbps non pass-through twin pack from Amazon for only a pound less, thanks OP!
#17
Hi guys

Sorry don't really understand the 100mbps and 500mbps etc stuff the only thing I've ever been aware of is my Internet download speed. Which is only like 8-9mbps. I'm assuming this isn't the same thing?

I'm interested in these because my wifi doesn't have a decent enough signal in my bedroom to give a good download speed on my sky box. Downstairs is fine and I can watch almost instantly upstairs if I watch on demand it takes like 2 hours to download a non hd movie.

Can anyone give me a quick explanation on the speeds thing and if you think this should be cool to fix my issue

Cheers Carl
#18
kidcarlosuk
Hi guys

Sorry don't really understand the 100mbps and 500mbps etc stuff the only thing I've ever been aware of is my Internet download speed. Which is only like 8-9mbps. I'm assuming this isn't the same thing?

I'm interested in these because my wifi doesn't have a decent enough signal in my bedroom to give a good download speed on my sky box. Downstairs is fine and I can watch almost instantly upstairs if I watch on demand it takes like 2 hours to download a non hd movie.

Can anyone give me a quick explanation on the speeds thing and if you think this should be cool to fix my issue

Cheers Carl

This will not fix your internet speed but may fix your WiFi issue.

The connection made with these plugs is between one plug downstairs attached to a wall socket with an Ethernet cable running from your router to the actual plug and another plug located elsewhere in the house which is also plugged into a wall socket with an Ethernet cable running from it to another device with an Ethernet slot near your router

The speeds quoted here, which are dependent on distance etc, are the ones created by the actual plugs “talking” to each other and how fast they transfer data between the 2

It may well resolve your WiFi issue as these use the house wiring so there is a direct connection between the 2 plugs unlike the WiFi which has to navigate a route through walls/doors/metal.

Users state that these work poorly on a 2 ring main house with old wiring which I disagree with. My house is a 2 ring main and I still use the old red and black wiring (No Earth) and I get better results than my neighbour who has just had his house re-wired.

Hope this helps
#19
Joefez
The original v1's all broke, one after the other (a known fault I'm sure). Fortunately Zyxel customer support is really good and have replaced all my failed units without question with the new v2's (ethernet port underneath unit on v1, on top of unit on v2).

If they don't have the v1 issue then I think it's a great buy. Even if they do, Zyxel Warranty for 3 years, means you should get a replacement by the time it fails (mine went after about a year of solid service).

ps: I should have pointed out the issue with the V1's is that they just die, no power, no lights, game over.
BigAde
I had the same issue with my v1 4201's. Every single one failed after a few weeks.
The first time they made me send the faulty unit back at my own cost.
Every subsequent time they didn't ask for the old unit back. The Zyxel support staff must have been so fed up with it that they knew which model I had as soon as they answered the phoned, they made me fill in an online form and a few days later a new powerline unit arrived. At first they were replacing them with other v1 units, all of which failed too. It wasn't until they replaced them with the v2 that they stopped failing. Must have had about 8 units replaced in all , and while it was annoying, I can't fault their support. In spite of the failures I still have confidence in Zyxel products because of the excellent support.

Hi

If I'm not mistaken, the Ebuyer pic shows the units with the ethernet port on the bottom of each device. So the ones they're selling are the (dodgy/faulty) v1 version?

Can anyone help confirm which device version they're actually selling?

Many thanks :)
#20
Currently have a NAS connected to a powerline adapter that is 200Mbps. When copying files wirelessly I get 5MB/sec speeds (going off Windows copying notification). If I get these will that speed increase or do I need one with a Gigabit port? I know my NAS has a Gigabit port but unsure as to how big a difference it will make
#21
largeruk
Joefez
The original v1's all broke, one after the other (a known fault I'm sure). Fortunately Zyxel customer support is really good and have replaced all my failed units without question with the new v2's (ethernet port underneath unit on v1, on top of unit on v2).If they don't have the v1 issue then I think it's a great buy. Even if they do, Zyxel Warranty for 3 years, means you should get a replacement by the time it fails (mine went after about a year of solid service). ps: I should have pointed out the issue with the V1's is that they just die, no power, no lights, game over.
BigAde
I had the same issue with my v1 4201's. Every single one failed after a few weeks.The first time they made me send the faulty unit back at my own cost.Every subsequent time they didn't ask for the old unit back. The Zyxel support staff must have been so fed up with it that they knew which model I had as soon as they answered the phoned, they made me fill in an online form and a few days later a new powerline unit arrived. At first they were replacing them with other v1 units, all of which failed too. It wasn't until they replaced them with the v2 that they stopped failing. Must have had about 8 units replaced in all , and while it was annoying, I can't fault their support. In spite of the failures I still have confidence in Zyxel products because of the excellent support.
HiIf I'm not mistaken, the Ebuyer pic shows the units with the ethernet port on the bottom of each device. So the ones they're selling are the (dodgy/faulty) v1 version?Can anyone help confirm which device version they're actually selling?Many thanks :)

We were talking about our experience with a different but similar model, the 4201 v1.
This is the 4211 so presumably doesn't have the same problems as the 4201 v1.
Even if it does, Zyxel customer support is UK based and hassle free.
#22
I want to use these to stream HD video from my PC to my WDTV Live are they strong enough for that? Currently I have PC connected to WiFi and WDTV ethernet in to the router, works OK most of the time but it does buffer sometimes as my WiFi only get 72mbps connection.

I did want to run ethernet cable upstairs to the PC but for some reason my wife doesn't want me to drill holes in the walls!! ;)
#23
voodooboard
lentini

You're wrong. I have a pair of the PLA4215 500mbps adapters and get around 34MB/sec throughput which is around 255mb/s.
No you don't.

The fastest homeplugs on the market are AV2 600Mbps models. In this test they achieve 21.8MB/s in the same power-strip.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/networking/2013/07/30/zyxel-pla-5205-600mbps-powerline-adaptor/2

Which of course is not a real-world test, the signal is travelling a few inches. It is just to show they best speeds the hardware could possibly achieve.

In the 'typical conditions' test they get 11.6MB/s (about 93Mbps).

Since your model is inferior, there is no possibility that you get 34MB/s throughput over typical distances.

The PLA4211 (this deal) are in that test for anyone interested.

The thing is the software that reports the speeds of these devices is incorectly reporting too.

For example, i have a pair of Homeplug PL-600AV-SMT-PIGGY's, 600mbps devices. The software that come with it reports a realtime, in use, transmission speed of around 135mbps and a recieve speed of around 185mbps.

So if im copying from my NAS which is on a Gig port on my router which is in turn connected to the gig port on the PL-600AV which connects to my PC, i get a sustained transfer rate of ...

8.5MBps (According to windows file copy) or equivalent to 68mbps or about a THIRD of what it reports.

From the router via an ethernet cable to a directly connected laptop i get 45MBps from the NAS.

Its horse****.



Edited By: TheBlueRaja on Jun 18, 2014 14:41: Additional Info
#24
TheBlueRaja

The thing is the software that reports the speeds of these devices is incorectly reporting too.


The software reports the link rate or PHY rate. Same as wifi. What you experience transferring files or streaming videos is the application layer rate.

I agree that it's terribly misleading and confusing for the layman but it's also impossible to advertise such a product based on 'typical' application layer speeds due to the affect of interference, distance, wiring topology. You've also got he problem that nobody will buy your 60Mbps homeplugs when your competitors are calling their model 500Mbps.

As always the best thing to do as a consumer is to educate yourself, read as many reviews possible etc. If you do it for homeplugs you'll pretty quickly understand what kind of performance to expect. And remember it's a very ballpark figure because environmental factors play such a huge role.
#25
TheBlueRaja
rawson
Only 100Mbps Ethernet ports, so you will not achieve the 500Mbps from a single device to single device connection that these allow. Should be looking for the 1000Mbps port adapters.

You will probably not get anything like 100Mbps anyway from these "500mbps" devices. Its marketing ****.

Dont get me wrong, these will do a good job, just dont expect anything near 500mbps, same goes for pretty much all this sort of kit, thats why they only give you 100mbps ports.

They are great! bargain price ordered another pair :)
#26
voodooboard
TheBlueRaja

The thing is the software that reports the speeds of these devices is incorectly reporting too.


The software reports the link rate or PHY rate. Same as wifi. What you experience transferring files or streaming videos is the application layer rate.

I agree that it's terribly misleading and confusing for the layman but it's also impossible to advertise such a product based on 'typical' application layer speeds due to the affect of interference, distance, wiring topology. You've also got he problem that nobody will buy your 60Mbps homeplugs when your competitors are calling their model 500Mbps.

As always the best thing to do as a consumer is to educate yourself, read as many reviews possible etc. If you do it for homeplugs you'll pretty quickly understand what kind of performance to expect. And remember it's a very ballpark figure because environmental factors play such a huge role.

Yup, as i mentiond above, these (and other Powerline adapters) do a good job of getting where wifi doesnt, but as Public Enemy warned us all those years ago, Dont believe the hype. :)

Edited By: TheBlueRaja on Jun 18, 2014 15:20
#27
if pass through is not important to us, would these be a better buy?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00FEDTWJI/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers
#28
forcedv
if pass through is not important to us, would these be a better buy?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00FEDTWJI/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers

Those ones arent as fast as the ones posted.

Edited By: TheBlueRaja on Jun 18, 2014 15:32
#29
wgking6
ned1960
Got these last time bargain :)

How stable do you find these powerlines? any connection drops?

hot for the price

I have the BT ones and they worked flawlessly out of the box, No connection issues or lag. I have found the 200mbps ones i got, do limit my 100mb connection slightly, but it is only noticeable with direct downloads. With regards to gaming (2 x xboxone consoles simultaneously, plus a PC downloading) i have no complaints, lag issues or connectivity issues. How much of this is a reflection on my isp connection, i dont know. The other thing worth noting is the wiring in your house. These probably would not be suitable in my parents house, for example, as it is 40+ years old, and suffered through floods and decay. Anyway, hope this helps.
#30
largeruk
Joefez
The original v1's all broke, one after the other (a known fault I'm sure). Fortunately Zyxel customer support is really good and have replaced all my failed units without question with the new v2's (ethernet port underneath unit on v1, on top of unit on v2).

If they don't have the v1 issue then I think it's a great buy. Even if they do, Zyxel Warranty for 3 years, means you should get a replacement by the time it fails (mine went after about a year of solid service).

ps: I should have pointed out the issue with the V1's is that they just die, no power, no lights, game over.
BigAde
I had the same issue with my v1 4201's. Every single one failed after a few weeks.
The first time they made me send the faulty unit back at my own cost.
Every subsequent time they didn't ask for the old unit back. The Zyxel support staff must have been so fed up with it that they knew which model I had as soon as they answered the phoned, they made me fill in an online form and a few days later a new powerline unit arrived. At first they were replacing them with other v1 units, all of which failed too. It wasn't until they replaced them with the v2 that they stopped failing. Must have had about 8 units replaced in all , and while it was annoying, I can't fault their support. In spite of the failures I still have confidence in Zyxel products because of the excellent support.

Hi

If I'm not mistaken, the Ebuyer pic shows the units with the ethernet port on the bottom of each device. So the ones they're selling are the (dodgy/faulty) v1 version?

Can anyone help confirm which device version they're actually selling?

Many thanks :)


this is the
largeruk
Joefez
The original v1's all broke, one after the other (a known fault I'm sure). Fortunately Zyxel customer support is really good and have replaced all my failed units without question with the new v2's (ethernet port underneath unit on v1, on top of unit on v2).

If they don't have the v1 issue then I think it's a great buy. Even if they do, Zyxel Warranty for 3 years, means you should get a replacement by the time it fails (mine went after about a year of solid service).

ps: I should have pointed out the issue with the V1's is that they just die, no power, no lights, game over.
BigAde
I had the same issue with my v1 4201's. Every single one failed after a few weeks.
The first time they made me send the faulty unit back at my own cost.
Every subsequent time they didn't ask for the old unit back. The Zyxel support staff must have been so fed up with it that they knew which model I had as soon as they answered the phoned, they made me fill in an online form and a few days later a new powerline unit arrived. At first they were replacing them with other v1 units, all of which failed too. It wasn't until they replaced them with the v2 that they stopped failing. Must have had about 8 units replaced in all , and while it was annoying, I can't fault their support. In spite of the failures I still have confidence in Zyxel products because of the excellent support.

Hi

If I'm not mistaken, the Ebuyer pic shows the units with the ethernet port on the bottom of each device. So the ones they're selling are the (dodgy/faulty) v1 version?

Can anyone help confirm which device version they're actually selling?

Many thanks :)


I had the same concerns...this is the pass-through model so is not practical the ethernet port to be on the top as the socket is in the way...the design look very similar to the v2 so i assume is the v2 circuit board inside...anyway i ordered a pair...
#31
audin
I did want to run ethernet cable upstairs to the PC but for some reason my wife doesn't want me to drill holes in the walls!! ;)

Your wife is out of date, time for an upgrade. oO

Edited By: CrazyBob on Jun 18, 2014 18:33
1 Like #32
CrazyBob
audin
I did want to run ethernet cable upstairs to the PC but for some reason my wife doesn't want me to drill holes in the walls!! ;)

Your wife is out of date, time for an upgrade. oO

Wow that's REALLY helpful! Thanks!
#33
JonBetts2004
lentini
voodooboard
No you don't.

Oh sorry, I didn't realise you were in the room with me when I tested them

You do realise his argument was backed up by evidence of testing rather than just a claim?

Happens a lot on this site these days. People declare "you're wrong" then back it up with nothing but smart ass retorts. Shame as previously there used to be many an interesting discussion on here where 2 people would challenge each other with facts and others like me could learn a little.


Edited By: WBRacing on Jun 18, 2014 22:29
#34
hasan6958
Currently have a NAS connected to a powerline adapter that is 200Mbps. When copying files wirelessly I get 5MB/sec speeds (going off Windows copying notification). If I get these will that speed increase or do I need one with a Gigabit port? I know my NAS has a Gigabit port but unsure as to how big a difference it will make

To convert MB/sec to Mbps simply times by 8 so your old adapters are transferring at 40Mbps. I know this is a lot less than the theoretical top speed of 200Mbps but this is typical I'm afraid. Bit-tech's test found these PLA4211 adapters to transfer at 92Mbps which would equal 11.5MB/sec so you could see your speeds double. Having said that everyone's wiring is different so you might not even hit these speeds. It's up to you if you want to take that gamble. Just don't expect them to be any faster than 11.5MB/sec though!
#35
Ordered yesterday, got upgraded to next day delivery free and its just arrived. Great service.

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