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#1
Hmm... seems like the great forum software doesn't automatically parse links in the OP.

Here ya go for the lazy amongst you:

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.hotukdeals.com&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
#2
And it's still totally unusable too. What "Topic" am I supposed to choose for this post? General Deals? Computing? Entertainment?


You have selected the correct topic. :thumbsup:

Welcome to HUKD, you always rememvber your 1st post/whinge. :)
#3
W3C compliant coding isn't the mark of a good website, for me it functions fine in the 4 browsers I have on my computer, and as you say even the 'big' websites have 100s if not 1000s of errors. There's a huge difference between things that are going to cause errors for people actually using the site, and valid coding that can potentially help make a site more accessible.

HUKD having almost 1000 errors - yeah, that's not great and can be worked on I am sure, but it's really not a sign of how 'good' the new site is.
#4
How many of those alleged 'errors' actually manifest themselves to users though? I've added a deal, found deals using search and can find hot / new deals without any problems. Doesn't affect me in any obvious way that the programmer/s "may have neglected to close an element" etc.
#5
Now Online: 7380 - congratulations HUKD!!

Usable for some though.:whistling:
[admin]#6
Perfect w3c encoding would be great if all browsers were perfect and we lived in a perfect world. That even a simple page like yahoo.co.uk gets 70 errors and a giant warning indicates that the w3c validator is bit pie in the sky...
#7
I'm not sure I need this site to be xhtml compliant , but It does look a bit odd in opera - the page numbering links don't display properly.
banned#8
ck_;1406974
How many of those alleged 'errors' actually manifest themselves to users though? I've added a deal, found deals using search and can find hot / new deals without any problems. Doesn't affect me in any obvious way that the programmer/s "may have neglected to close an element" etc.


I cant even get the CSS to load so just see a stream of text on every page. The site is terrible now! At least I can still see the deals though but have to find them via google which isnt much more hassle.
#9
The site is barely usable on my MacBook. I've added the problems to the feedback thread weeks ago and if anything it's gotten worse.
#10
KittyKate;1410218
The site is barely usable on my MacBook. I've added the problems to the feedback thread weeks ago and if anything it's gotten worse.


What browser are you using?
#11
Admin
That even a simple page like yahoo.co.uk gets 70 errors and a giant warning indicates that the w3c validator is bit pie in the sky...


Simple? :thinking:
#12
I think the point is, if you want a site which will be the most future proof and that will give a consistent experience to your users you cannot ignore web standards. It is a bit of a cop out to say "in a ideal world", because you can say that about anything really.
More and more HTML layout engines are going to get stricter on this - so why create problems for yourself in the long run?
I do realise however it is hard to get it right especially with off the peg software like vBulletin and custom hacks, so it is a bit of a puzzler!
[admin]#13
I'm not arguing against web standards moneysavingG. The point is right now if you coded strict html it would be broken in many browsers. Failing w3c validation is normal and while we obviously strive to web standards it is not possible to be perfect while keeping proper formatting in the most popular browsers.

edit - the other thing moneysavingG is that we're not talking about future proof. This is a consumer site not a banking enterprise software platform. The css or xml can be changed at any point as browsers change their engines and become standards compliant. And ideal world is not really a cop out in web dev as something like IE 6 is wildly out of line for web standards yet is still a major browser.
[admin]#14
Simple? :thinking:


Ok for arguments sake - google.co.uk has 46 errors and is not valid according to the w3c validator. I don't think it can get much simpler than a big search box in the middle of the page, a logo and some text links. And they've got a heck of a lot more money to spend on making a "future proof" web site than us.
#15
Admin;1411212
I'm not arguing against web standards moneysavingG. The point is right now if you coded strict html it would be broken in many browsers. Failing w3c validation is normal and while we obviously strive to web standards it is not possible to be perfect while keeping proper formatting in the most popular browsers.


Yep - I understand the problem Admin. Most of it caused by the evil empire (M$). I just can't help the tut tut when I see yet another page fail. Oh well as long as it works, eh? :thumbsup:
[admin]#16
Oh well as long as it works, eh? :thumbsup:


Well that's the state of the web right now.. it's getting better though. No CSS hacks used btw :)
#17
Just checked out Amazon, 1466 errors! Maybe we could start a competition to find the most errors lol.

Amazon results....
#18
KittyKate
The site is barely usable on my MacBook. I've added the problems to the feedback thread weeks ago and if anything it's gotten worse.


Works fine on my MacBook in Safari, Firefox and Camino
#19
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/images/vcss

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