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1 Like #1
I would think, like all humour, its down to individual sensibilities and context. However I don't think I could ever find anything funny about child abuse and would expect the HUKD 'community' to report anything offensive
[mod]#2
Don't know what it's about but i'd imagine it's something that's stemmed from Misc. Unforutnately you are probably wasting your time as with most things.

I find it easier to rarely go in that section and leave the children to it.
#3
Syzable;3423765
Don't know what it's about but i'd imagine it's something that's stemmed from Misc. Unforutnately you are probably wasting your time as with most things.

I find it easier to rarely go in that section and leave the children to it.

says he with a childish attitude
[mod]#4
raptorcigs;3423846
says he with a childish attitude


:o

Ok then......whatever your problem is.
#5
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/funny-pictures-cats-fight-on-opposite-sides-of-bed.jpg
#6
lol maybe they should ban lazytown completely,
I mean c'mon a guy who wants to exercise with kids and that evil looking dude with the evil peado moustache obviously pervs. In fact the whole thing is obviously some sort of peado porn and all images of it should be banned everywhere and the actors playing these peados should be stoned in misc alongside bg1, clarkson brand and ross.

Down with this sort of thing lol
1 Like #7
ill change the title so the mods will understand better what exactly ur asking, because im sure we are all 100% clear that admin doesnt condone peadophilia, infact the last person to accuse him of condoning it got banned so id choose ur words very carefully...

"i really dont like bg1 and its makin me very angry that he hasnt been banned yet! he has an avatar of a 17 year old girl but nevertheless im going to accuse him of being a peadophile.........i hope this thread works in feedback and bg1 is eventually banned. I also hate acecatcher3 so next i shall attack him about his avatar of a [SIZE="6"]WHITE[/SIZE] man.........thats racism surely??!!"

thats what the op mean mods.:thumbsup:
#8
Is this in reaction to a particular thread? If so I hope you reported it. I am sure that Admin/mods will judge whether a thread or member is trying to encourage or mock paedophilia.
#9
I'd like to point out the OP's spelling mistake.:)
1 Like #10
I think perhaps a non-existent problem is being invented here, and yes, I've seen the thread/s being referred to so understand the context. This latest avatar argument has simply created a situation where some people are beginning to look excessively prudish imo, or perhaps let their personal feelings about other members make them appear to be so. Looking back at the context over the long-term, it is not surprising that this continues to happen though, and this thread is another in a long line which raises a perceived 'problem' in a way that aggravates rather than resolves - better to start with understandings than accusations imo. :thumbsup:

EDIT: And while we are at it, can we change the title please?
#11
Liddle ol' me
I think perhaps a non-existent problem is being invented here, and yes, I've seen the thread/s being referred to so understand the context. This latest avatar argument has simply created a situation where some people are beginning to look excessively prudish imo, or perhaps let their personal feelings about other members make them appear to be so. Looking back at the context over the long-term, it is not surprising that this continues to happen though, and this thread is another in a long line which raises a perceived 'problem' in a way that aggravates rather than resolves - better to start with understandings than accusations imo. :thumbsup:

EDIT: And while we are at it, can we change the title please?


where have u been
#12
So enlighten us then Liddle, you are an educated person, how do you perceive a member who continually uses controversial avatars knowing that they will gain a reaction?

If like you say you understand the context of "that" thread then you will have first hand knowledge of where and why the image exists and the way in which it is being used and promoted.

It's been said before but I'll write it once more. Paedophilia is just not funny, spoof or otherwise. If you want to label me a prude for taking that line then fine, I can live with that.

As for this continual movement towards making this username BG1 into some kind of martyr well that is so far from the real truth it is in itself funny.
I really couldn't give a flying fig whether it's BG1, ABC or 123 it's the way that person and that avatar is being used that provokes my response.
#13
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hottoshop
So enlighten us then Liddle, you are an educated person, how do you perceive a member who continually uses controversial avatars knowing that they will gain a reaction?

If like you say you understand the context of "that" thread then you will have first hand knowledge of where and why the image exists and the way in which it is being used and promoted.

It's been said before but I'll write it once more. Paedophilia is just not funny, spoof or otherwise. If you want to label me a prude for taking that line then fine, I can live with that.

As for this continual movement towards making this username BG1 into some kind of martyr well that is so far from the real truth it is in itself funny.
I really couldn't give a flying fig whether it's BG1, ABC or 123 it's the way that person and that avatar is being used that provokes my response.
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Nice attitude hottoshop, but I fear attempting to enlighten you :) on this subject might be a wasted effort. You appear to have made up your mind.
#14
Liddle ol' me


Nice attitude hottoshop, but I fear attempting to enlighten you :) on this subject might be a wasted effort. You appear to have made up your mind.


why not the rest of us tho...i am actually interested in what happens as for once i dont agree with whats being said about CERTAIN members on the site
#15
admin
I honestly cannot keep track of what is happening. It is like a 10 year episode of Survivor and all the alliances and double-cross and plans are beyond me. That is why it is particularly frustrating to feel like Feedback is turning into some kind of strategic battleground for Misc fights and I have to analyse the questions for every different possible angle and meaning in context of whatever scrap is going on at the time.



I await this post from admin to appear on this thread. ^^^
[mod]#16
My theory is BG1 is Admins 3rd account. :-D
#17
Syzable
My theory is BG1 is Admins 3rd account. :-D


What's his second?
#18
Benjimoron;3425303
What's his second?

harvie316 :giggle:
#19
Benjimoron
I await this post from admin to appear on this thread. ^^^


You nearly got the voice spot on there - a few more attempts and you'll be there :-D

Syzable
My theory is BG1 is Admins 3rd account. :-D


I've always thought it was his second - what's the other one? :? (and don't say thesaint as I have inconvertible evidence to the contrary.)
banned#20
Syzable
My theory is BG1 is Admins 3rd account. :-D


LOL so what was the second? (I asssume you were waiting for that to be asked!)
[mod]#21
His other is Paul as well as Admin. :thumbsup:
#22
Liddle ol' me
You nearly got the voice spot on there - a few more attempts and you'll be there :-D



I've always thought it was his second - what's the other one? :? (and don't say thesaint as I have inconvertible evidence to the contrary.)


I forgot, he's got one called Paul too.

What's that about the voice? Who am I pretending to be???
#23
<<< waiting patiently for it all to spill out over here now the thread in question is locked.
#24
Benjimoron
What's that about the voice? Who am I pretending to be???


Are you attempting to turn my double bluff into a triple? :?
[helper]#25
I just want to know what the policy is.

If HDUK is a site where people can freely post jokes about peadophilia, then we all know what the official stance is and those of us who don't agree with it, can either put up with it or go elsewhere.

If Admin decides peadophilia jokes (or avatar spoofs) are not acceptable, then we know we can complain and expect something to happen.

At the end of the day its Admins site so its his decision.
[admin]#26
HUKD does not condone any illegal activity. It should be understood there are a lot of topics people joke about freely on HUKD which doesn't necessarily mean the subject itself is approved as morally acceptable by HUKD.
[mod]#27
This is one of many issues which people can be offended about. You cannot censor everything so I think ALL jokes should stay.
[mod]#28
Admin
HUKD does not condone any illegal activity. It should be understood there are a lot of topics people joke about freely on HUKD which doesn't necessarily mean the subject itself is approved as morally acceptable by HUKD.


Well put! :thumbsup:
[helper]#29
Admin
HUKD does not condone any illegal activity. It should be understood there are a lot of topics people joke about freely on HUKD which doesn't necessarily mean the subject itself is approved as morally acceptable by HUKD.


Admin - sorry but thats a bit of a cop out. You presumably are responsible for everything on this site.

This is your site - are you happy for this site to become associated with peadophillia jokes and spoofs?

I'm sure you would not allow racist or homophobic spoofs on this site (it presumably contravenes your forum rules on racism and sexuality) so why allow peadophile spoofs?
#30
what one person finds funny another person doesn't - I can't stand Monty Python - my husband can't stand Graham Norton - so what I'm trying to say is - the subject matter may be considered unacceptable by one person but not by another so who can really say what is/isn't acceptable - and after all this country does have free speech so each to their own
[mod]#31
gari189
Admin - sorry but thats a bit of a cop out. You presumably are responsible for everything on this site.

This is your site - are you happy for this site to become associated with peadophillia jokes and spoofs?


If people are condoning paedophilia, then Admin should and will take appropriate action. I havent seen anyone condone it so as much as you are entitled to your own opinion, I cant see it being that much of a problem to a misc forum in general.
[mod] 1 Like #32
From what i can gather...........some people find a doctored pic of a young girl offensive but not everyone so it's ok. In the same respect some people find a cartoon of the Prohpet Mohammed offensive but not everyone..........is that ok?

To me i think it is by that reckoning. The only difference being is fear and political correctness.

Let's not forget there is much mocking of Christianity which goes without comment.........so what is your stance on the above question Admin and what would happen if it was posted? Fair question i think.
banned#33
now did bg remove his own post or was it removed for him, either way maybe it speaks volumes
#34
For those of us in the dark, which thread sparked this discussion if it's still in existence?

John
#35
Johnmcl7
For those of us in the dark, which thread sparked this discussion if it's still in existence?

John


http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3418269#post3418269
#36
gari189
At the end of the day its Admins site so its his decision.


gari189
Admin - sorry but thats a bit of a cop out. [...]


You can either go with your first position and accept that Admin is entitled to present a nuanced answer, or you can continue to push him for an answer that you find acceptable, in which case your first statement actually isn't your true position.

magicjay1986
If people are condoning paedophilia, then Admin should and will take appropriate action. I havent seen anyone condone it so as much as you are entitled to your own opinion, I cant see it being that much of a problem to a misc forum in general.


Yes, well said. :thumbsup:
banned 1 Like #37
v2drinkers
Strange this is.

Mods made me change an old avatar I had as some found it offensive!

One rule for one it seems


when i had a flashing one, one member pm'd me and asked me to change it due to causing problems for people who suffer migraines etc,etc (I dont even know if they really meant it) i changed it immediately, i didnt need to be made to change it
#38
Isn't this a judgement call? If you are certain that the the avi was made by a paedophile, then make this clear and back up everything you say, because the vast majority of responses haven't made that judgement or aired that opinion.
It seems most comments border on either not bothered/not sure/not in a position to make that kind of judgement on the intent to incite paedophilic reference on HUKD.
Has any lewd/suggestive remark been made by the member with the avi in question?
I abhor any thought of paedophilia, but I cannot make as certain a jugement about the intent of the avi owner in question. If I felt he overstepped the mark, I would say so right away.
#39
sn0ttyang3l
what one person finds funny another person doesn't - I can't stand Monty Python - my husband can't stand Graham Norton - so what I'm trying to say is - the subject matter may be considered unacceptable by one person but not by another so who can really say what is/isn't acceptable - and after all this country does have free speech so each to their own


There is a bit of a difference between Monty Python and peadophilia.

Most people who have a childrens avatar are those who actually have children.

BG1 though, to my knowledge does not have children, is a 20 something with the need to always do something provoking.

Also, does no one remember a few weeks back bg1 had the avatar of the so called 'pedobear'?

But of course nothing will happen as he is the admins and mods barstard lovechild.


edit: also, in some circles on the internet pedophillia may be a joke, but considering this is a family forum I dont think it should even be remotely considered to be funny.
banned#40
Syzable
From what i can gather...........some people find a doctored pic of a young girl offensive but not everyone so it's ok. In the same respect some people find a cartoon of the Prohpet Mohammed offensive but not everyone..........is that ok?

To me i think it is by that reckoning. The only difference being is fear and political correctness.

Let's not forget there is much mocking of Christianity which goes without comment.........so what is your stance on the above question Admin and what would happen if it was posted? Fair question i think.


An avid viewer of South park I assume?

I have to agree, either all things are OK to joke about, or nothing is OK to joke about.

No one has encouraged or condoned paedophillia, so stop being so uptight.

EDIT: Paedobear is an internet phenomenon, I find the gifs and jpegs funny but in no way do I support any act of paedophillia. I also think Russell Peters is HILARIOUS, and anybody familiar with his work will know the majority of his jokes are based on race, does this make me racist?

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