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[admin]#1
We make mistakes simple as that.

Mods send a lot of pm's they are usually very brief and to the point.
#2
lost
Anyway there is now a seperate thread on the forums for Grolsch, worked out exactly the same way with the vouchers and BOGOFs combined. This has not been deleted. I have posted prompts for the mods to explain why it is one rule for one and another for others but have had no reply all morning (check the thread).


I think its a similar situation to google checkout.

Although a thread allowed so soon after yours is odd.
#3
Mods send a lot of pm's they are usually very brief and to the point.


Fair point, needs bearing in mind but I'm sure I could have worded it better than Edi did at the time. Maybe he was stressed out with other circumstances but if I were to speak to members like that it would simply start rows.
#4
Didnt mean to rude lost :) and I've no reason to be so..

Mods strive hard to keep everyone happy although there may be times when we have to remove or moderate posts to make sure the forum is clutter free. I usually keep my PMs cheerful but the lack of smiley option makes this difficult.
#5
Thanks Edi- appreciated.
Part of me knew you didnt mean to be rude but the lack of compromise or consideration on my point made me feel like the site was being dictated, and the members aren't being 'allowed' what is probably what they want. The deal was good, and suitable for a dedicated thread as is proven by the new one. I dont particularly want to browse a forum in which I know that decent deals are being hidden in threads too long for anyone to sensibly read. Agreed the flipside is they clutter the forum but better too many good deals than few and hidden eh?



POST EDIT- Why has this been merged with another thread?? It was completely unrelated and a pointless merge. The title was similiar the subject is comlpetely independent.
This is exactly what I am talking about. Nonsensical moderating. Why why why? I spend less time concentrating on deals on this site and more pondering the reasons behind its moderation! I hope this was another mistake? :?
#6
lost
I didnt think so.

But lately 'Gotcha' seems to be right...

I posted a thread about carslberg lager a while ago using Tesco BOGOFs and vouchers combined. This was deleted in about 30 seconds and I received the following PM:



Which would have been fair enough had I been posting every single BOGOF from Tesco. But I wasn't, and I think the way that email was constructed was rather flippant, even arrogant. Maybe it wasn't intended that way but thats how it came across to me.

Anyway there is now a seperate thread on the forums for Grolsch, worked out exactly the same way with the vouchers and BOGOFs combined. This has not been deleted. I have posted prompts for the mods to explain why it is one rule for one and another for others but have had no reply all morning (check the thread).

The point in this thread is to get an answer (an apology is out of the question obviously), as to why the rules are so inconsistent. Why should I spend my time posting a deal, having worked out how to best go about it only to have the thread deleted and spoken to like that, when someone else can post virtually the EXACT same deal and get 'heat' and 'rep' and the mods turn a blind eye??

The mods need a kick up the arse. IT IS NOT YOUR SITE!!! You are here to help US, not us here to help you. Sorry but if you don't like that you shouldn't have become a mod! All due respect but that's how it works.

If members want and appreciate a thread based on the lager deals in Tesco then who are you turn around and say 'we dont need this' and 'we dont need that'- maybe you don't but you are here for the members sakes and not your own!

Its very disencouraging to post deals like that and have it deleted, then other members can go on to repost it and get praised. I have been very close to saying **** this site and just going elsewhere but I'm not someone who just gives in easily, and I know I'm right.

So mods- for the sake of HUKD's members, stop censoring and dictating and start moderating!!! If you treat everyone the way I have been treated you'll have no site to moderate.


Jeez... C u later then :whistling:

He sent you a pretty brief PM, but then he probaly sends 100 a day. It was hardly rude, just a little bit to the point. Perhaps a "please" would have been nice.

Dont take it so personally.

I really dont think the site is going to collapse any time soon from poor modding. Somebody earlier said these guys were the best ever, and you think the opposite.

As you make clear yourself, who are they to judge for the majority. Well in this case, the majority like the mods, and you are in the minority. So I would say that they are doing a great job myself :)

If they were like most places, they would have just deleted this thread the moment it surfaced. The fact that they didnt shows that they have nothing to fear from the few who dont like it.
#7
If you think I dont have a point then you are obviously happy to have your posts deleted, then reposted by others-which aren't deleted.
#8
lost
If you think I dont have a point then you are obviously happy to have your posts deleted, then reposted by others-which aren't deleted.


Nobody is perfect. And its hard a job modding at a speed that keeps up with posts.

It could happen elsewhere. I can give you rep or heat if you really feel that strongly about losing out on your rep because somebody else was allowed to post it :thumbsup:
[mod]#9
lost
If you think I dont have a point then you are obviously happy to have your posts deleted, then reposted by others-which aren't deleted.


Be fair to the mods, the job they do is very difficult and it's not easy keeping a happy balance for everyone.

At the end of the day, rep is like Admin say's just a bit of fun and doesn't really mean anything. If they had to moderate every single post then I and many others would need a Mod each just to keep up with us. :thumbsup:
#10
I DONT CARE ABOUT REP OR HEAT!

I HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THE MODS HAVE LOTS OF PMS TO SEND!

ITS EASY TO NOT DELETE PEOPLES THREADS FOR NO REASON!

Now know why my thread was merged with this one, to get you lot to barrage me with ********
[mod]#11
lost
I DONT CARE ABOUT REP OR HEAT!

I HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THE MODS HAVE LOTS OF PMS TO SEND!

ITS EASY TO NOT DELETE PEOPLES THREADS FOR NO REASON!

Now know why my thread was merged with this one, to get you lot to barrage me with ********


Calm down. No-one's having a pop. Just trying to explain how the site works. :?
#12
ill say it again

why cant we just all get along?

WHERES THE LOVE!
[mod]#13
muffin247
ill say it again

why cant we just all get along?

WHERES THE LOVE!



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1 Like #14
You completely misunderstand me though if you think I'm trying to get some 'rep' or 'heat' on a deal!
#15
BTW I started writing in reply to the post before yours
I can give you rep or heat if you really feel that strongly about losing out on your rep because somebody else was allowed to post it
[mod]#16
lost
BTW I started writing in reply to the post before yours


:thumbsup: It's all good. I understand where you're coming from.
#17
tbh I prefer it when my threads dont get deleted/merged (apparently) randomly and I have to subsequently argue my point endlessly.

I prefer to be able to post what I want, the members than ask for the mods to delete if they feel its unwanted and everyones happy.

Im going back to Rpoints, if this is the way the site is run I'd rather put my effort into that community where its appreciated and not waste my time doing nothing but this.

I might pop by to say hello , but if I find any good deals they'll be posted on Rpoints.
#18
some like it some dont if u feel r points is more to your liking then go back there

nobody will care or notice really:)
#19
Its people like you who make this world the sh1t hole its turning into!

some like it some dont if u feel r points is more to your liking then go back there

nobody will care or notice really


I could be the doctor who saved your mothers life for all you know but you come out with a comment like that because your hiding behind your pc.

Sorry what did I do to deserve a comment like that?

Muffin- yep, muffin alright.
[admin]#20
You guys done? Take it to pm's otherwise
#21
sorry admin but whoever merged the threads caused this. They knew there was a lot of hatred on this thread so merged my issue here! Quite blatant really...
#22
In defence of lost,i have to say that he merely pointed out that another thread in the same vein as his was allowed to remain after his was deleted.Even though he highlighted this other thread,it has still been allowed to remain.Why.:? It is discrepencies like this that do annoy folks at times.Not knocking the mods ,but after this other thread was clearly brought to their attention,it still remains.
#23
And it doesn't make any sense why it was merged with "gotcha's" thread either, Lost asked a valid question and then his question gets merged with a load of rubbish.

Someones talking the pi$$.
#24
lost, You made some good points in your first, but when you post a 'private message', I'm afraid you lost my respect. You could have pm'd Edi or Paul for an explanation.
I don't think you need to naff off to rpoints, but if you feel more comfortable over there, then we won't stop you.
I think the lack of Mods on here does not help, they rush to get things done that need doing urgently and the way things get done lacks the 'personal' touch.

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[admin]#25
Not disagreeing - I don't know the situation to tell the truth. Maybe there were 10 bogof drinks deals posted in a row then a mod would probably try to clean that up - but if another was posted later when there weren't others they let it stay.

Personally I think yes it can be annoying but sometimes stuff happens and I don't think this is a major issue personally - I think the mods do a good job of keeping the forums on track overall - if a lager bogof gets subordinated into another drink bogof thread using the same deal info it's not the end of the world. Move on is what I would say...if it keeps happening to you then let me know and we can look at policies.
#26
Admin
Not disagreeing - I don't know the situation to tell the truth.


One of the better answers.

But it doesn't explain why its been merged with gotcha's thread, Is it just a case of "If you don't like it, Lump it?"

Don't get me wrong, I think the mods do a great job and we all make mistakes, But I also understand Lost's point of view.

Someone has posted a deal extremely similar to Lost's and its allowed through, Its like the choice has been made on which drink the mod preferred!
#27
The offending deal has now been moved.:)
[admin]#28
Ok here's the situation.

1. Your bogof thread. It was posted on April 28th. The one you are complaining about being let through was posted yesterday. This is almost a month apart. As I said there are situational differences - when your thread was posted there was a rush of drink bogofs and little reason for another thread. Yesterday this wasn't the case. If both of yours were posted within an hour or something I think you'd have more grounds for a complaint. I'm not looking to argue this policy - I'm just stating there was thought behind it.

2. Your complaint thread. It's been split into it's own. You made a thread titled "Are mods gimps with no brains?" immediately above one titled very similar - in the first post you talk about the other one. I don't think that's an indiscriminate merge at all and in fact makes sense. I still think it should be in the other thread rather than alone but here you go - a concession.

3. I try to guide the mods to treat every deal or post the same but not equally. What's the difference? The difference is that we're not automatons and that we try to take into account all sorts of different factors. We want to make sure we think about each post/thread individually and fairly but that we don't slap down rules hard core on everything no matter what the situation is. This is life.

4. Explanation. Look at the discussion on foreign deals. We say UK only deals but there are exceptions. Why? Well because neither hard rule works (excluding all foreign or including all foreign) so we have to carefully examine these kind of posts and make a judgement.

5. So how can members help guide the forum rules. The best way you can help is by looking at the larger scheme of things. On the foreign shops issue I am not interested in whining about so and so's deal was posted but mine wasn't - rather I am going to be very receptive and interested in someone who says yeah I understand the problem and here's ways to evaluate sites or make those judgments. We need discussion at the meta level of the problem not at the personal level.

6. Unlike an earlier poster I would not say get lost the forum won't miss you. We want everyone and anyone here - however if the way the forum is run is not to your liking then we understand you may feel welcome elsewhere. In that case we'd like to hear where we can improve and hopefully someday you will find it more to your liking.
[admin]#29
Sorry one more thing. Private messages are called that for a reason. No mod will post your pm's without your permission. Please respect that in reverse and if you really want to make a PM public ask the member/mod if it's ok to post the PM.
[mod]#30
Admin
Sorry one more thing. Private messages are called that for a reason. No mod will post your pm's without your permission. Please respect that in reverse and if you really want to make a PM public ask the member/mod if it's ok to post the PM.


Good job too. :whistling: :giggle:
#31
agree with lost, mods are much better on other forums, hence me being on this one less and others alot more
#32
geek grrrl
agree with lost, mods are much better on other forums, hence me being on this one less and others alot more


Oooooooo, I didn't realise you are posting less :? :-
http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1340146

Is it just one Mod that you have 'fallen out' with or do you mean all the Mods on here?


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#33
I assume the above post is aimed at me, cant actually read it as he's on my blocked list, as are a few other people on here. the forums just arent as nice as they used to be, which is a shame.
#34
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[mod]#35
Oooooooo, I didn't realise you are posting less :? :-
http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1340146

Is it just one Mod that you have 'fallen out' with or do you mean all the Mods on here?




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Quoted - There you go assuming i'm not on your blocked list as well :? :-(
#36
Syzable
Oooooooo, I didn't realise you are posting less :? :-
http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1340146

Is it just one Mod that you have 'fallen out' with or do you mean all the Mods on here?




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Quoted - There you go assuming i'm not on your blocked list as well :? :-(


you didnt need to quote him! hehe, hes blocked because he talks crap and Im just not interested.
[admin]#37
you didnt need to quote him! hehe, hes blocked because he talks crap and Im just not interested.


How can you write things like that and then say the forum aren't as nice as they used to be? Sure people may wind you up but you're only going to get out of things what you put in. That goes for everyone not just you geeek grrrl
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geek grrrl
you didnt need to quote him! hehe, hes blocked because he talks crap and Im just not interested.


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#39
Admin
How can you write things like that and then say the forum aren't as nice as they used to be? Sure people may wind you up but you're only going to get out of things what you put in. That goes for everyone not just you geeek grrrl


I can write that because its true. I did put effort in, and for as many friends as I made, I had twice as many people harrassing me, which if the mods had done anything about it, wouldnt have led to me finding another forum.
I reported several members because of the way they were treating me and nothing was done, so yes, I can say the forums not as nice as it used to be, and yes I can say the mods arent as good as mods on other forums, and yes I can say that dino stevus talks crap, I could say alot of other things too, but im not going to stoop as low as some of the people here.
#40
geek grrrl you have lots of friends on here who have spent considerable time giving you sensible advice and sympathy in your times of need...and i'm sure you have appreciated all their efforts....so lets all be jolly...so hows things with you? ... healthy and happier I hope.

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