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#1
I have been suspended for this too. Just write **** then your not avoiding it!
#2
*&*& ***
#3
no, you cant.
I am interested in this reply too as the feck one appears quite often but others not so obvious are clamped down on.
#4
RuthIess
I have been suspended for this too. Just write **** then your not avoiding it!


i done that the other day and got an infraction :roll:
#5
RuthIess
I have been suspended for this too. Just write **** then your not avoiding it!


thats the point **** was in there
banned#6
as everything, depends whose on when the report goes in and to who deals with it
#7
whats an infraction look like?
#8
Well you can't say ****, ****, **** or ********. Most others are OK.
banned#9
kyalion
Well you can't say ****, ****, **** or ********. Most others are OK.


dont try that in an opening post - lmfao
#10
:? YEP ...I GOT SUSPENDED FOR USING THE WORD....knob !!!!!
#11
This smacks of a feedback thread surely?

V. Profanities, Foul Language, Rudeness:

There is a word filter in place to help remove profanities from posts.

* Anyone attempting to get round the word filter by any means will face a ban.
* Rude posts or images are also not acceptable and will be deleted without warning at the discretion of Admin and Moderators.
* Please be polite to your fellow members at all times.

Mind, tis open to discretion so no hard and fast rules i guess which can be frustrating.....
#12
Mr Weasle
:? YEP ...I GOT SUSPENDED FOR USING THE WORD....knob !!!!!


that would depend on the context you used it in but what i am asking is how when the swear filter is kicking in is it avoiding the swear filter?

is that not double dutch?
#13
boydent999
This smacks of a feedback thread surely?

V. Profanities, Foul Language, Rudeness:

There is a word filter in place to help remove profanities from posts.

* Anyone attempting to get round the word filter by any means will face a ban.
* Rude posts or images are also not acceptable and will be deleted without warning at the discretion of Admin and Moderators.
* Please be polite to your fellow members at all times.

Mind, tis open to discretion so no hard and fast rules i guess which can be frustrating.....


i meant to post it there but clicked misc by accident i have reported it to be answered and moved, anybody else feel free to do the same

i refer you to the above post and the op
#14
casparwhite;5622320
i meant to post it there but clicked misc by accident i have reported it to be answered and moved, anybody else feel free to do the same
I did when it was 1st posted, then went off to try and find the exact comment about the rules......i like the post but i really don't think you're gonna get an answer really :-( well not one that'll make much sense....
#15
michelleleemoo
whats an infraction look like?

Horrible; you get a real telling off:whistling:

michelleleemoo
I said infraction not infection :w00t:;-)

:giggle:


How do you know that there is inconsistency Caspar?
I have the impression that except in exceptional circumstances the mods just act on reports rather than rifling through threads looking for avoidances. I guess it might look inconsistent because it depends on what is reported.
Ask in Feedback maybe?
edit - just seen that you had meant it to be in Feedback.
#16
boydent999
I did when it was 1st posted, then went off to try and find the exact comment about the rules......i like the post but i really don't think you're gonna get an answer really :-( well not one that'll make much sense....


that would be because there isnt an answer just the mods abusing their powers and attempting to justify it with nonsense

you cant be avoiding the swear filter if the filter actually kicks in and there is no swear word visible.....can you?
banned#17
casparwhite
that would depend on the context you used it in but what i am asking is how when the swear filter is kicking in is it avoiding the swear filter?

is that not double dutch?


if your post is ****, meaning the swear filter kicked in then you havent avoided it, so you cannot get an infraction for avoiding it :?
#18
But what does it mean, avoid the swear filter by any means?
The use of character symbols, *?/ etc?
Words that sound similar?
As someone said, words in context?
Describing a female dog or calling someone that name, big difference i guess
Same with an illegitimate child as opposed to calling some that name.
I'd hate to be a mod on this one, cos no one is gonna be happy, and i never am :giggle:

casparwhite;5622384
you cant be avoiding the swear filter if the filter actually kicks in and there is no swear word visible.....can you?
No, i do see what you mean there :) I think it's more like using wildcards and similar words that should be come down on more heavily, IF THE RULE IS TO BE IMPLEMENTED CONSISTENTLY else, remove it

Lol, i can see the mods now, staring down from Mount Olympus watching us waiting for one of us to use a word that avoids the filter and suspending us as punishment!
banned#19
there was a thread about this before and as far as you will get is that common sense is to be used by both mods and members, this isnt always the case on both parts, i have seen a mod remove the most rediculous thing yet leave the most nasty, oh but im sure that will be becasue the reports got missed, all of them
#20
chesso
Horrible; you get a real telling off:whistling:


:giggle:


How do you know that there is inconsistency Caspar?
I have the impression that except in exceptional circumstances the mods just act on reports rather than rifling through threads looking for avoidances. I guess it might look inconsistent because it depends on what is reported.
Ask in Feedback maybe?
edit - just seen that you had meant it to be in Feedback.


i know there is inconsistency as there was a tghread the other day and in the op there was blatant aviodance usint ! and @ in place of I and a, also in subsequent posts there were another 2 posts with similar incidences and aft that there was a post by a mod......so obviously the mod had read the op and the posts before his yet chose to leave them there
#21
sassie
if your post is ****, meaning the swear filter kicked in then you havent avoided it, so you cannot get an infraction for avoiding it :?


that is what i would like an explanation to because im sat here with 3 infraction pts where swear words have not been posted
#22
Mr Weasle
:whistling: THERE HAS BEEN MANY RUDE IMAGES ON HERE AND MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO POSTED THEM HAVE NEVER BEEN WARNED OR BANNED!


How do you know they haven't been warned?
#23
casparwhite
i know there is inconsistency as there was a tghread the other day and in the op there was blatant aviodance usint ! and @ in place of I and a, also in subsequent posts there were another 2 posts with similar incidences and aft that there was a post by a mod......so obviously the mod had read the op and the posts before his yet chose to leave them there

Perhaps then, the mods do only react to reports and don't take action off their own bats. Actually it would be interesting to know if that really is the case.
#24
chesso
Perhaps then, the mods do only react to reports and don't take action off their own bats. Actually it would be interesting to know if that really is the case.


its not as i have a pm from an infraction saying nobody had seen it yet and it was a good job he intercepted it before anybody else saw it and they got heaps of reports......

maybe i have a shadow
#25
casparwhite;5622438
i know there is inconsistency as there was a tghread the other day and in the op there was blatant avoidance using ! and @ in place of I and a, also in subsequent posts there were another 2 posts with similar incidences and aft that there was a post by a mod......so obviously the mod had read the op and the posts before his yet chose to leave them there
Lol, i have seen that before, even reported the thread and nowt has happened so i gave up, have started again but seen things get ignored
Mods cry out, report stuff and yet it seems so many reports get ignored, go missing. Stuff like you have described just makes you think what is the point.
I know they give their time for free, and are human but it can be so, well, disheartening.
I am sure we will never get full implementation of the rules, cos the rules are so grey. As has been said, some very choice images have appeared to.......i love the comments we get when members are being chided about it being a family forum and some of the smut that appears :giggle:
Sod the rules and let anarchy commence, after all, the tag of this site is, deal anarchy from the masses lol
#26
boydent999
Lol, i have seen that before, even reported the thread and nowt has happened so i gave up, have started again but seen things get ignored
Mods cry out, report stuff and yet it seems so many reports get ignored, go missing. Stuff like you have described just makes you think what is the point.
I know they give their time for free, and are human but it can be so, well, disheartening.
I am sure we will never get full implementation of the rules, cos the rules are so grey. As has been said, some very choice images have appeared to.......i love the comments we get when members are being chided about it being a family forum and some of the smut that appears :giggle:
Sod the rules and let anarchy commence, after all, the tag of this site is, deal anarchy from the masses lol


Ditto.
#27
casparwhite
its not as i have a pm from an infraction saying nobody had seen it yet and it was a good job he intercepted it before anybody else saw it and they got heaps of reports......

maybe i have a shadow

Case proved.
Inconsistent it is then, Perry ( Mason not the Harry Enfield thing).
#28
sassie
if your post is ****, meaning the swear filter kicked in then you havent avoided it, so you cannot get an infraction for avoiding it :?


Completely agree

They should change the verbiage to 'infraction for provoking the swear filter into action' :giggle:

I would say the possibility of an infraction occuring will be higher in a thread where there are trolls or a heated discussion... oh ... thats every thread... :thinking::w00t:
#29
well i think ive doubled my infraction count in the last 2 weeks with 2 suspensions and ive been away in amsterdam for nearly a week in that time
#30
Well as mad as it sounds, i did report this thread, as you said also Casparwhite and it's not moved and look around, i see at least one mod online and posting.
What is the point of reporting? Sigh
#31
The word filter has swear words in it, they're in there so they don't show up in the forum when typed in full, plus some variations using different characters in place of the letters.

Swear words will show as asterisks *******

Avoiding the swear words by bypassing the filter, will result in infractions.

The best way to avoid infractions is not to type swear words at all.
#32
Thanks for the reply Rayman BUT:
is using wildcards acceptable?
are variants of swearwords such as say feck (and please don't infract me for that i am trying to find answers)?
#33
boydent999;5623286
Thanks for the reply Rayman BUT:
is using wildcards acceptable?
are variants of swearwords such as say feck (and please don't infract me for that i am trying to find answers)?

Depending in what context that was being used, it might or might not receive an infraction. In most cases where a word such as 'feck' is used, we would normally edit it out and state 'edited offensive text' as the reason for editing.
#34
so what about when a swear word is not posted and the filter has been effective as per my examples in the op please
#35
rayman;5623369
Depending in what context that was being used, it might or might not receive an infraction. In most cases where a word such as 'feck' is used, we would normally edit it out and state 'edited offensive text' as the reason for editing.
That's just a nightmare. Impossible to impose those rules, impossible for members to know what to post, report upon etc :thinking:
#36
casparwhite
so what about when a swear word is not posted and the filter has been effective as per my examples in the op please


You won't get a conclusive answer because then everyone that got a completely ridiculous infraction for "swearing" that didn't fit the "rule" will complain.
banned#37
casparwhite;5623937
well all i can say is that the latest additions to the mod team need to have the rules explained to them and not use their interpretration of the rules......i think its pretty simple if a swear word is not shown in a post then it is not avoiding the swear filter especially posts where the swear filter has done its job

common sense really or is it personal agendas as i have never had this problem with any other mods, all my previous infractions are justified but these last few are unwarranted and unjustified.

anyway, sod it lets play cat n mouse again, with the unfair rules:-D


Casparwhite,

The infraction I gave you today fits in 100% with the criteria already explained. If you wish to discuss this again, get in touch.
#38
rayman
he word filter has swear words in it, they're in there so they don't show up in the forum when typed in full, plus some variations using different characters in place of the letters.

Swear words will show as asterisks *******

Avoiding the swear words by bypassing the filter, will result in infractions.

The best way to avoid infractions is not to type swear words at all.


rayman
Depending in what context that was being used, it might or might not receive an infraction. In most cases where a word such as 'feck' is used, we would normally edit it out and state 'edited offensive text' as the reason for editing.


aScottishBloke

Casparwhite,

The infraction I gave you today fits in 100% with the criteria already explained. If you wish to discuss this again, get in touch.


the only thing that has been explained was the above by rayman, i can see no other explantion of anything else in this thread

there still is no explanation for infractions issued for avoiding the swear filter when the swear filter has not been avoided.
...... care to explain this so the new rules can be seen, maybe even add them to the site?

sounds like" we can give you infractions if we want with no valid reason"

im not just talking about my own infractions , it would appear the rules have changed without being written

can we have some clarification on this


V. Profanities, Foul Language, Rudeness:

There is a word filter in place to help remove profanities from posts.

* Anyone attempting to get round the word filter by any means will face a ban.
#39
casparwhite
can a mod please explain the avoidance of the swear filter policy as twice i have received infractions where no actual swear words have been posted.

once the filter kicked in with all letters blocked out

once a 4 letter word was posted with stars in place of 2 words

there are a lot of posts using ! and @ etc as letters, which i would consider avoiding the swear filter..... but when no swear words can be seen and could quite easily have non swear words in there......like TwiT or FecK i dont quite get how it is "avoiding" the swear filter especially when the filter has kicked in!"


I will take a guess.

1st Bascially a swear word was used filter stopped it from being present but you still swore.

2nd Your still swearing but avoiding the swear filter, suggesting a full swear word but the swear filter can't be used there as you avoided it.

3rd I agree with you all the people there should of had the same treatment as you avoiding the swear filter, though I don't agree with twit as people call people twits and its not a swear word or the filter would pick it up, you could suggest that regarding the last but word then again shouldn't that be added to the swear filter?

My simple opinnion is why do you need to swear? This isn't aimed at you Casper just generalisation, theres plenty of words to be used, just call someone a pelican or a fluffy duck. Really offensive words in the right context.
#40
:-D ha ha so without swearing or being offensive..ive had 3 or 4 posts in this thread removed overnight...by ........A************* so its a case of if your face fits or not as i orig said:)

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