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[mod]#1
Although i understand your concern. Everyone taking up these type of offers should be over 18 and therefore capable and old enough to understand the risks involved.

This whole country is so incredibly PC already that i really don't want to see it extended to here as well. If people are so easily led or greedy in the first place then that is a lesson that they may just have to learn the hard way.

Unfortunately too many people expect to have their hands held throughout life nowdays. :-(

Nice thought out post though. :thumbsup:
[helper]#2
I understand the concern about gambling - I do feel a little uneasy with gambling deals also due to similar concerns as Jah. However at the end of the day it is legal and most people accept its a risk (or at leas they should do)...........
So I agree with Sy.
#3
Just to make clear I'm not against gambling at all from a moral position and this isn't about making HUKD more PC or a nanny site, and some threads on here (like this quidco cashback threads on the grand national last year) I've found really helpful.

I'm not saying I think the CB thread was a bad tip but I have some real reservations about the way they are structured and funded, and the effect of having such a deal at the top of the front page. For example, I can't find the payout rate information anywhere on there site (which should allow people to work out the risk to some degree), yet there is page and page about information on bonuses (they even give you a birthday 'bonus'); it occured to me that prize pools may be built up only from real money (not bonus money) deposited. Whilst I agree with you Syzable in that we are all adults and realise that a risk is involved, a real problem is I don't have a clue of the extent of this risk - at a bookmaker I have odds, at a betting exchange I can set the odds myself, in poker I can estimate my skill and those of others playing, but in this bingo I'm pretty clueless as to what the rate of payout\odds will be before I sign up my £20, particularly with all the 'bonuses' they seem to offer.

Even if the majority of HUKD members who played ended up overall being profitable (seems likely look at the threads) a significant amount of their winnings certainly has come from other members. Bottom line is some people will have logged onto HUKD deals that evening and shortly after found themselves £20 poorer without a new toy, which I expect few intended when they visited. Is that fact outweighed by those that profited?
[mod]#4
The problem with Bingo sites is the odds are variable depending on how many people are playing at any one time.
#5
I have to agree with the OP.

The recent cyber bingo thread was gambling and should either be in its own section or have a warning on it. I took part in the daily mail bingo offer which had no gambling risk (other than getting addicted), but this recent one you had to risk your money to get nothing back (not what hukd is about imo)
[mod]#6
By putting a warning on it where do you draw the line though?

In that case should there be a warning on Alcohol threads or should they not be allowed?

The whole idea of being an adult is to learn to be responsible and make your own decisions, not to be molly coddled and have your hand held throughout life. :thumbsup:
#7
i think i'm capable of making my own decisions thankyou
#8
Syzable
By putting a warning on it where do you draw the line though?

In that case should there be a warning on Alcohol threads or should they not be allowed?

The whole idea of being an adult is to learn to be responsible and make your own decisions, not to be molly coddled and have your hand held throughout life. :thumbsup:



Fair enough, just thought a warning on the cyber bingo one would've been sensible as you risk losing money. But saying that should there be a warning on all cashback mobile phone contracts???
#9
A warning on gambling threads...give it a rest. Sorry but this is the most pointless thread ive read on here. You must have things better to do than worry about this subject.
#10
andy108uk
A warning on gambling threads...give it a rest. Sorry but this is the most pointless thread ive read on here. You must have things better to do than worry about this subject.



Ok, maybe not a warning!

But I still think that HUKD is not the place for encouraging gambling. HUKD is about saving money, and on average you will lose gambling money.
#11
Benjimoron
HUKD is about saving money, and on average you will lose gambling money.


Not really, we're not about saving money, we're about hot deals... so we're actually about spending money.. :w00t:
#12
I'm just working my way through [COLOR="Red"][SIZE="4"]27[/SIZE][/COLOR] bingo NO DEPOSIT sites.

I'll let you know if I get any payouts and post the deals up for you.
banned#13
Syzable
Although i understand your concern. Everyone taking up these type of offers should be over 18 and therefore capable and old enough to understand the risks involved.

This whole country is so incredibly PC already that i really don't want to see it extended to here as well. If people are so easily led or greedy in the first place then that is a lesson that they may just have to learn the hard way.

Unfortunately too many people expect to have their hands held throughout life nowdays. :-(

Nice thought out post though. :thumbsup:


I agree with you.

I played two of the other offers posted on here where you got £10 free as I didn't want to waste my own money.

This one I left well alone as I didn't want to waste the money, although I can afford to.

Everyone who reads through things properly knows exactly what to expect.

I had fun playing the free ones and was glad they were posted although I didn't win.

It is a minority of people that gamble what they cannot afford and they will do this regardless of anything posted on here.
#14
People know the risks of gambling as soon as they sign up, I personally can't see a problem.
#15
jasonrat
i think i'm capable of making my own decisions thankyou

Iom-RF
People know the risks of gambling as soon as they sign up, I personally can't see a problem.


I have to agree with jasonrat and Iom-RF - I believe it is already clear enough that gambling (in most cases) is not risk-free, that you are not guaranteed to get something.

I would say that most of us who are of course old enough to gamble, are perfectly capable of deciding ourselves whether to sign up.

:thumbsup:
#16
Plenty to be made if you know how to do it and keep your wits about you.

http://www.therichestmaninatherstone.co.uk/wealth/index.php/2006/10/21/quidco_referrals
#17
duckmagicuk2
Plenty to be made if you know how to do it and keep your wits about you.

http://www.therichestmaninatherstone.co.uk/wealth/index.php/2006/10/21/quidco_referrals

Thanks for the link Ducky :)
#18
duckmagicuk2
Plenty to be made if you know how to do it and keep your wits about you.

http://www.therichestmaninatherstone.co.uk/wealth/index.php/2006/10/21/quidco_referrals



I can not believe how much money that guy has wasted.
That is a poor site and he is throwing the bonus money away. :w00t:

I have done only half the bookies on there and for the same outlay have over £700 in credit.
#19
duckmagicuk2
Plenty to be made if you know how to do it and keep your wits about you.

http://www.therichestmaninatherstone.co.uk/wealth/index.php/2006/10/21/quidco_referrals


Although that totally relies on Quidco actually paying out the cashback, which doesn't always happen!

(Such as the Inkclub cartridge, I signed up through quidco, no sign of cashback, So ended up paying £2.99 for a cartridge!)
banned#20
A bit tiddled so if you dont afree, i dont care, but this this is called called hot uk deals, well it aint beedin hot if you dunna win, but is if you do :-D did i mention i was tiddled :roll:
#21
Iom-RF
Although that totally relies on Quidco actually paying out the cashback, which doesn't always happen!

(Such as the Inkclub cartridge, I signed up through quidco, no sign of cashback, So ended up paying £2.99 for a cartridge!)


I've done 4 of these betting deals through quidco, one tracked and paid no problem. One tracked but got (wrongly & unfairly) declined just yesterday and 2 failed to track at all and are currently in the enquirey stage. Paid out £40 and had only £25 back so far, so any one doing these purely for the cashback is a mug, cashback is a bonus not a garentee (and I knew that when I signed up to em, so aren't complaining). I forget what my point was, but I know I had one :giggle:
#22
Starlet
I forget what my point was, but I know I had one :giggle:


Think it was basically that if your solely signing up for free cashback don't bother, if you want to gamble a small bit + get the bonus, its a good idea?

Thats how I read it anyway.. :)
banned#23
Starlet
I forget what my point was, but I know I had one :giggle:

yeah, me too :giggle: I think:oops: Not sure if i have even posted on her so your do ning beter than me
#24
Bit of an aside but should Cyber Bingo UK be an allowed merchant anyway? It seems they are based an Antigua and don't list contact numbers on their website (like a lot of online gambling sites they are based offshore). Does this not fall foul of the UK-only (except where specifically approved) rule? :thinking:


Domain name:
cyberbingo.co.uk

Registrant:
The Cyberbingo Corporation

Registrant type:
Non-UK Corporation

Registrant's address:
The Cyberbingo Corporation
P.O. Box 3138
Wood's Mall, Mezzanine Level
Suite 16
St. John's
3138
AG

Registrar:
Domain Directors Pty Ltd [Tag = RAREDOMAINS-AU]
URL: http://www.aunic.com.au
#25
dear me whot will it be next.................some people have nothing better to do than moan...................
banned#26
chuf
dear me whot will it be next.................some people have nothing better to do than moan...................

probably someone having a moan at the voucher section :giggle: :giggle:
#27
sassie
probably someone having a moan at the voucher section :giggle: :giggle:

Moaning is a great British tradition though, as is queuing - and why do we queue? So we can have a good moan about it! :giggle:

(Credit to Andy Parsons from Mock The Week for that quote)
#28
sassie
probably someone having a moan at the voucher section :giggle: :giggle:


This was i idea not a moan........................:whistling:
#29
i dont think people understand whot UKDeals is about.........if they want to make it into something else then why dont they start there own................too many people here that want to change the world..................

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