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#1
When you were banned first time it will only have been for a day - this would have given you plenty of opportunity to read the FS rules and T&C and should also have made you realise that breaches of the rules are taken seriously...
#2
I have noticed that some people can be banned for the smallest mistake that has been worked up by jobsworths on here but I have seen blatant scammers and rule brakers get away with murder.

I think it all depends how many reports they get from the mod wannabes / jobworths that live on here.

In fact i will probably get banned for giving my opinion on this subject because of these people
#3
sparkygeezer
but I have seen blatant scammers and rule brakers get away with murder.


Did you report them? If you want the FS forum to be a safer, more useful forum and less like a post-ebay wasteground you would be better off helping out others by reporting rule-breakers and potential scammers rather than whinging about those who do so on here... :x
#4
yes I reported them.....

I agree its good to keep the FS Forum safer and I support that all the way but dont appriciate some members who go out of thier way to report other members who may of made a mistake with thier FS thread.

I suppose it just adds to those members who get a kick out of biting peoples heads off for forgetting to price or put pics up
#5
People don't get banned for that though - they would only get a ban if they persistently refused to put a price up after being asked by a mod. The FS has recently got much stricter (hence the 24 hour bans) but this was at the request from a lot of members to take a tougher approach - and there isn't really any justification from people who get banned more than once for repeatedly breaking the rules.

Also, asking someone politely to post a price or picture or if the have ebay feedback isn't "Biting their heads off", its something that will genuinely be in the interest of both potential parties...
#6
Asking politely is fine but I have seen people get jumped on which is not nice and probably puts new members off.

It seems some members on here go through each thread looking for mistakes so that they can get noticed where as other members will give help if they spot a mistake.
#7
Not sure if that is strictly true, I'm sure the members have good intentions. The FS forum is approaching 100 new threads per day now, its a lot more than one person can moderate so Col and the other mods are reliant on other members reporting threads and helping out in others.

The board has been and will continue to be a target for scammers and traders and they are often very crafty in their approach - the self-moderating approach (relying on ordinary members reporting suspicious threads) does help catch them out, a whilst I agree it might appear a bit strict and possibly in that way unfriendly to a newcomer this is necessary to keep the fraudsters to a minimum.
#8
jonny1_rfc
I have recently been banned from this site twice already for making legitimate errors when posting on the FS board.

You were banned for 1 day when you first breached the rules. As jah128 said, this should have given you the hint to actually read the rules and ensure future posts were in line with them. However, you got back from your ban - and did the exact same thing again, leading to a futher ban of 1 week - which is perfectly laid out and explained in the rules.

sparkygeezer

In fact i will probably get banned for giving my opinion on this subject because of these people


No-one is banned from HUKD for offering their opinion, I have no idea what you base this on. What people do get banned for - is breaching the forum code of conduct.
#9
emmajk42

No-one is banned from HUKD for offering their opinion, I have no idea what you base this on. What people do get banned for - is breaching the forum code of conduct.


I know I was just being sarcastic.

It just seems that if certain people complain then something is done, even though its not always justified, where as others just seem to get away with things
#10
sparkygeezer;1739346
I know I was just being sarcastic.

It just seems that if certain people complain then something is done, even though its not always justified, where as others just seem to get away with things


If you have a problem with anything on the site, please use the report button and the mods will look into it. If you have a mjaor complaint regarding the way the site is run, please use the "contact us" button to email admin.
#11
I do use the report buttons where needed (even though some sort of acknowledgment that something is or is not being done about it would be nice)

I dont really have a problem with the way the site is run, I just felt the need to vent something that bugs me seeing as somebody had started a thread about the issue.

To be honest if people (including myself) dont like what goes on here all they have to do is go somewhere else.
#12
Ok, can i ask why a member was not banned from here today, for (and it did make me lol mind), telling me to go and take my face for a sh**.
The member used carefully placed asterisk for the i in the above word.

Now, according to the rules:

V. Profanities, Foul Language, Rudeness:

There is a word filter in place to help remove profanities from posts.

* Anyone attempting to get round the word filter by any means may face a ban.
* Rude posts or images are also not acceptable and will be deleted without warning at the discretion of Admin and Moderators.
* Please be polite to your fellow members at all times.

So, seems if you're rude to a mod, ie Abacus, you get banned, rude to a member, whilst circumventing the rude word policy, you don't get banned. Is that how it is?
#13
* Anyone attempting to get round the word filter by any means may face a ban.

boydent999 - the member has received a warning - that's what we usually do for first offences.
#14
Oh right, so for circumventing AND being offensive, that's only worth a warning? Thanks :-(
#15
We make a decision based on the individual case. Mods get berated for doing one thing, we get picked on for doing another. We cannot please all of the people all of the time.

Please understand that the forum code of conduct are a set of guidelines which we follow, and make rulings as we see fit. If you have a problem with any of the rulings, please feel free to report them.
#16
This isn't directly linked to the banning policy but there are a lot of first time traders on the FS/FT board that come a cropper during their initial posts, this being a prime example, I don't think the poster in this instance had any idea of the 'not for sale anywhere else' rule or they wouldn't have been so brazen about it. Is there anyway to use the listing form to point out some of the more obvious rules and prevent these things from happening...

I'm think of really basic things like a tick box asking the user to confirm 'this item is in my possession and not for sale anywhere else including ebay' - or a pop up that says 'seller must state price' etc...

I'm no techie so this may not be at all possible but if it is, it might help one or two new people who no matter how big the 'read the rules' section is still inevitably won't read it...
banned#17
On the other hand, I'd prefer to buy/sell from users who take the time and effort to read rules beforehand.

I think the onus should always be on the individual to check prior to posting. Being supsended for 1 day or a thread locked is hardly the end of the world, and does indeed give plenty of time to become familiar with the rules if you happened to skip them beforehand.
#18
aScottishBloke
On the other hand, I'd prefer to buy/sell from users who take the time and effort to read rules beforehand.

I think the onus should always be on the individual to check prior to posting. Being supsended for 1 day or a thread locked is hardly the end of the world, and does indeed give plenty of time to become familiar with the rules if you happened to skip them beforehand.


We're not all perfect though are we?
#19
Flodd
We're not all perfect though are we?


To be honest Flodd it's hardly being perfect is it ?
Just to ask someone to make themselves familiar with a few house rules befoe they use the site facilities is not exactly asking for the world.

In all honesty I think it's just a matter of laziness, something we are all guilty of at some time or another, maybe a swift kick up the jacksy (reminder) is what we all need now and again ??

I do however agree and always have done that the OP in the FS/FT forum needs to be a proper template with some kind of checklist embedded in it.

regards :)
[admin]#20
We used to have the complaint that members weren't notified of the rules so then the mods started posting them in every thread. Then it was complained that members didn't see it when making the post so we put the warning in the submission form.

I'm not sure either has made a huge difference to be honest. I think that a suspension or infraction is sometimes the best way as it makes the member sit up and take notice. It is intensive on the mod side of things though.

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